This is so helpful - especially the point that “the cars coming in Opposite direction will have SAME light colours as you in a signal without Arrow”. I have tried to summarise my understanding for turning right without arrow scenario 1) If Yours is First Car waiting to turn right, 1.1 When lights are GREEN for you (lights are also GREEN) for opposite lane - move ahead near the middle of intersection at a point where you can see right turning / opposite traffic and wait until it’s clear or Safe to turn , Yield to any one turning left from Opposite lane or anyone coming straight , check left right (generally the lane on your right would have stopped traffic as their light would be red now ) move when it’s safe to do so 1.2 ) If you couldn’t complete your turn on GREEN and lights change to ORANGE( remember opposite direction also gets ORANGE light now ), Look for ant car in opposite direction trying to get across orange light as they couldn’t stop in time Check and go once it’s Safe. 1.3) If you couldn’t complete your turn on ORANGE lights and now it turns RED (Remember opposite direction also has RED now so no cars would come ahead now ) You have to absolutely leave the intersection and make that turn now - however , watch out for cars on tour right turning right as their green might be on anytime now - mostly there is a small gap between our Red and their green, use it and complete the turn 2) If you are NOT THE FIRST CAR, Wait behind the white line for Green light and until cars ahead you to turn and for opposite direction to clear . If signal turns Oranfe or Red by now, wait behind the lane . If it’s still green and there is oncoming traffic , move ahead and wait (follow #1) Once you move ahead as you are the first car , the turn needs to be done before signal goes RED as much as possible . Worst case , just turn as soon as it turns to RED(after checking right turning traffic and it is safe)
Yes Suja, that sums it up pretty well. If you are turning late on a RED light, you need to be watching for the impatient drivers on the other road (crossroad) as well, as they will be getting the green light imminently and might be in a hurry to take off. Make sure you proceed with haste to get out of the intersection promptly as soon as it is safe to do so - but make sure you do proceed with due caution. Remember, these are the rules for Western Australia. Some other Australian states and other countries might have different rules so always check your local jurisdiction. Thanks for watching.
Thanks David all the videos in your Channel are amazing. I've passed my test yesterday IN JOONDALUP. Only 4 lessons with David you are an amazing instructor. Even the assesor said "you've done a very good job, who did teach you to drive in Joondalup?" Of course ILUKA DRIVING SCHOOL. Thanks David!! You're highly recommended.
Thanks David this video really helped out, ive almost watched every single video on your page about driving and of course the video i miss is what caused me to fail my driving test. Today i sat my first test in Joondalup and at 1:00 mark in the video i didn't go out and sit in the middle because i thought there was too much traffic for some reason... silly me Next time i sit my test i will make sure to follow this rule and i should pass with flying colours. Your a really good instructor, Thank you!
When you stop and think about it, what are some the most dangerous aspects of driving? Two that come to mind are 1) turning right without a green arrow at traffic lights and, 2) turning right at a T-junction. In both cases the consequences of making a mistake could be catastrophic. That's why the assessors endeavour to test you on them in the PDA to ensure that you can do them correctly and safely. So if you aren't completely competent in dealing with these aspects of driving, then you aren't ready to tackle the PDA. I'm not necessarily saying that YOU weren't ready but so many other people fall into this category and that's what contributes to high fail rates. Make sure you get plenty more practice in - particularly doing the more challenging aspects of driving - and in unfamiliar locations. If you haven't had a recent lesson with a qualified instructor, make sure you do before tackling the PDA again. They can make an informed decision on whether you're really "test ready". ... and good luck with your next attempt. Thanks for watching.
@@ilukadrivingschool8696 Thank you for responding with this outstanding response, i do believe i am ready for my PDA driving test as i have done over 60 hours of driving with many different people such as my instructor, parents, siblings and my instructor believed that i am ready for my PDA. I understand what your saying, i have previously known all these road rules you have mentioned although under pressure of the test they seemed to fly out of my knowledge and i totally forgot one. Thank you for the help although!
@@Cookie-ej9nc The pressure is always there in the PDA but you'll be better next time having been through the process already. Just practice the hard things over and over again to get better at handling variations of them. For example, getting caught up on an orange or red light while waiting in the middle of the intersection, and having to deal with it without assistance from your passenger/instructor, is the type of practice you should be aiming to master.
Failed in a similar situation, was fairly certain id pass but this gap in my knowledge means I failed for a good reason. Although I’m kicking myself for failing I’m more confident I’ll pass 2nd time around
I’m From The United States 🇺🇸 And Left Turns You Have To Yield To Traffic Before Proceeding If There’s No Arrow If Clear Proceed Traffic Wait Till Safe Also Applies To Right Turns In Australia 🇦🇺 And Japan 🇯🇵
I had a friend who got cleaned up in Sydney many years ago by a car that was waiting to turn right with his wheels turned. As Gary was going through the intersection the other car got rearended. Because he had his wheels turned and the car that hit him went under the back of him he flipped over and landed on Gary's car. Gary survived but his car didn't.
Thanks for the comment Alan. That's precisely why we instruct people to keep the car straight with their front wheels straight when waiting in an intersection to turn right. Obviously for those in left hand drive countries such as US / Canada / mainland Europe etc, the same principle would apply to the process of turning left at traffic lights.
I found couple of times in Bribane, such like the car like the one in blue in the video, which it doesn't need to give way to the car turning right (big turn), instead can go left straightway, perhaps it is showing courtesy? Because back a couple of years ago, New Zealand rule was like that, then it followed the Aussie rule.
More likely a lack of understanding of the rules rather than courtesy. The rule on NZ changed several years ago and most NZ drivers in Australia would be aware of our rules.
Your videos are amazing. I have a question. On green light, I have crossed the line and waiting for when it is safe to turn right but then light becomes red, In this case what I need to do? Is it alright to wait in that area for light to come green again? or I can still take right, while light is red BUT if no vehicle coming from the opposite direction? Will there be a chance of traffic coming horizontally (left to right) , when signal is red?
NOTE: The following is an interpretation of the situation in Western Australia. You should check the rules for your local jurisdiction if outside of WA. This question has been answered many times before. It's always worthwhile scrolling through previous questions and answers to see what other people are commenting on. Anyhow, here is the answer to your question: If you can't see properly, then you have to either wait for the cars, trucks or buses opposite you to turn so that you can see if you haven't got a good line of sight past them, or wait for the orange (amber) light. When the light changes to orange the straight-ahead oncoming traffic should hopefully stop (if it can do so safely) rather than trying to beat the red light. That is your opportunity to go. However, if an oncoming car tries to beat to red light (which happens all too often) you will have to wait for it to safely pass through the intersection before you VERY CAREFULLY proceed. You ABSOLUTELY can't wait out there after the light turns red (you must go as soon as it's SAFE to do so) - and you ABSOLUTELY can't reverse back!! Once you enter the intersection you are committed!! If you do need to complete your turn on a red light, make sure you do it with caution because the cars on the cross streets might be starting to move into the intersection on their own green light phase. Hopefully those other drivers will be courteous and let you go without drama - but there are never any guarantees! We have a couple of other videos that highlight this very situation. Check them out. Thanks for the question and thanks for watching
hi today i went for my drivers test and i failed on two items (illegal act or manoeuvre) and disobeying traffic signs, signals and road markings (crossed a solid line), and im guessing the manoeuvre is this video you showed as i waited awhile in the middle for a safe gap and i saw a small gap the car was still 9-10 metres away but i believe i should of waited longer :(
From what you have described it sounds like the fail was for turning in front of an oncoming vehicle that was too close. The number of seconds of gap that you need to allow for varies in the publications by various jurisdictions but as a rough guide, a car travelling at 50kph will cover approx 100 metres in 7 seconds. You need to allow enough time to complete your manoeuvre so that the other driver doesn't need to touch their brakes and still allow you to clear them by a comfortable margin. 100 metres is about 20 - 25 car lengths. By your estimation you allowed 2 car lengths! Basically if you put the assessor into danger you will fail. Keep up the practice and get as much practice as possible in those traffic light turning scenarios (without the aid of an arrow). Assessors are obliged to put you through those types of scenarios to ensure that you are safe when you're out there on your own with your new licence. Thanks for watching.
Yes, it's the same rules everywhere in Western Australia. Sometimes, however, (and not shown in this video) the car on the opposite side of the intersection might be turning to their left on a slip road with an island a Give Way sign and line at the end of it. In that case you would have right of way against that other car because they aren't turning at the actual intersection but are being diverted to their left a few metres down the road from the corner. They would have to wait behind the give way line for you to go past them.
Hi David, at 3:35 the sliver car had right to turn left but he refused, how can we negotiate with the examiner if that’s the case? Do we wait till that car turn? Or what should we do please? :-)
You go out towards the middle as you would normally and then you wait for that car to turn the corner. Eventually to light will turn orange and then you can proceed with caution if there is clearly no vehicle attempting to move through the intersection from the other direction. Remember the cars coming from the other direction have the same coloured traffic light as you. If you want to say something to the assessor while you are waiting for the other driver to go, you can. Say something like "the other car has right of way so I can't go". Then the assessor knows what you are thinking. You absolutely CAN'T GO while the car is sitting there because it still has right of way while the light is green. Once the light changes to orange and they still aren't moving they are legally obliged to remain there so you can proceed with caution as long as there is nobody else coming straight through the intersection. Remember you must clear the intersection as soon as it is safe to go once the light turns orange or red. Thanks for the very good question.
Of course it depends on the rules in your local jurisdiction. But in Western Australia (where this video was filmed), you can flow to the left or right lanes when turning onto a two lane carriageway at an intersection provided that there is only one lane for turning in that direction. The rule was changed here several years ago to cater for oversized vehicles, but for simplicity of enforcement it was extended to all vehicles. Indeed if you are told to turn right and then turn left as a single instruction in your WA driving test, you would likely lose a mark if you didn't flow directly to the lane that was appropriate for the 2nd manoeuvre. As always, check your local jurisdiction's rules. Thanks for watching and commenting. It helps to clarify it for others and reminds viewers that rules can vary depending on where you live.
Arrows Are Not Flexible Or Variable In The United States 🇺🇸 Especially In New York State We Have All Left Turn Arrows If Not We Still Do The Same Thing Check For Oncoming Traffic If Clear Proceed Safely
4:36 ... U say we stop about here .. But where is the point we need to stop 🛑 Is it on the second line of the pedestrian crossing OR 🛑 In the middle of the road ( of the road coming from right ?) 🛑 Or just cross ur front wheel on that solid white line of our red light And stop there some where ...
You need to move out past the white line (the one that you would stop at on a red light). You go out for a distance of approximately 1 to 1.5 car lengths. The key point is that you need to ENTER the intersection on the green (or amber if the light changes on you as you enter). Once you have entered the intersection, you are committed to leaving the intersection during that phase of lights. That might mean leaving on the green light (it it's clearly safe), or on the amber or red if you need to wait for oncoming traffic to clear or stop - but you must clear the intersection - you can't remain out there. The distance that you move out depend on the size of the intersection (some are bigger than others) but you should never wait 'in the middle'. You should be short of the middle 1) so that you have good line of sight past any oncoming cars (or buses) that are waiting to turn right from opposite you, and 2) your path isn't allowed to impede the intended path of those cars waiting opposite. So you have to balance waiting far enough back to see properly versus ensuring that you have completely entered the intersection. If you don't go far enough into the intersection and wait straddling the while line, you might activate a red light camera while waiting for vehicles to slowdown or stop on their amber/red light. You should escape a fine as it wasn't your fault - you have no option but to wait for oncoming cars to clear. Remember, if you don't have a turning arrow, then generally the oncoming traffic is seeing the same coloured light as you at any point of time while you are out there beyond the line trying to turn - so you have certainty of what they are seeing. NOTE: This is a Western Australian interpretation - check your local jurisdiction as rules can, and do, vary.
NOTE: The following is an interpretation of the situation in Western Australia. You should check the rules for your local jurisdiction if outside of WA. This question has been answered many times before. It's always worthwhile scrolling through previous questions and answers to see what other people are commenting on. Anyhow, here is the answer to your question: If you can't see properly, then you have to either wait for the cars, trucks or buses opposite you to turn so that you can see, or wait for the orange (amber) light. When the light changes to orange the straight-ahead oncoming traffic should hopefully stop (if it can do so safely) rather than trying to beat the red light. That is your opportunity to go. However, if an oncoming car tries to beat to red light (which happens all too often) you will have to wait for it to safely pass through the intersection before you VERY CAREFULLY proceed. You ABSOLUTELY can't wait out there after the light turns red (you must go as soon as it's SAFE to do so) - and you ABSOLUTELY can't reverse back!! Once you enter the intersection you are committed!! If you do need to complete your turn on a red light, make sure you do it with caution because the cars on the cross streets might be starting to move into the intersection on their own green light phase. Hopefully those other drivers will be courteous and let you go without drama - but there are never any guarantees! We have a couple of other videos that highlight this very situation. Check them out. Thanks for the question and thanks for watching.
when turning at a traffic light, what lane do we enter after going through the lights? some people say closest curb which is the right lane whereas others say you should go into the left lane.
It depends on your local road rules. In Western Australia you can flow to either the left or right lane when turning left or right at an intersection. You can't do that if there are two lanes provided for turning either right or left (such as at very busy intersections). In that case you must stay in your lane for the entire turn. It is also necessary in your driving test to stay in your lane until you are through a roundabout and have completed the exit. When flowing to the far lane at an intersection you do not have to change your indicator. e.g. turning right and flowing to the left lane - just indicate right through the entire manoeuvre. If you are told to turn right and then take the next street left in your driving test, you must consider all of that information when selecting your lane. If you don't flow to the correct lane and then have to do a rushed lane change, you might be marked down on the category of 'Flow". That could be costly in your test if you make several other "flow" errors. In a country where you drive on the left side of the road, the default lane is the left lane so consider that when turning (unless your next turn is going to be to the right). Again, this is all based on a Western Australian interpretation, Check your local jurisdiction if outside of WA. Thanks for watching.
There r two different intersections in ur video. First one you entered a right lane where right turn was marked.. But in the second intersection,, there was no right marked on the road. And there were two lanes.. So while driving I. The unknown roads for the first time,, we might enter a left lane as well in the second intersection.. So can we still go to the right from the left lane... Can u please clarify
You can only turn right from the left lane if there is an arrow painted on the road telling you that you can. Driving requires common sense so there won't always be arrows painted on the road telling you where you can and can't go. But have a think about it. If there is no arrow painted on the road in the right lane, then vehicles in that lane can go either straight ahead or turn right. Similarly if there is no arrow painted on the road in the left lane, then those vehicles can either go straight ahead or turn left. What happens if there is a car in both lanes and one car goes straight ahead and the other one in the other lane turns the wrong way? Crash!! There is your answer! Thanks for watching and for posing the question.
So basically if there is a green arrow u can freely make a right turn but if it's just a normal green light then u have to go halfway in the intersection n wait till it's clear from upcoming cars?
Yes. That's pretty much it (provided that you're in a country where traffic drives on the left side of the road) . You moves TOWARDS halfway - not TO halfway, as you need to leave room for a vehicle turning to their right from the opposite direction, while maintaining the best possible line of sight towards the other oncoming (straight ahead and left turning) vehicles. Of course there are additional considerations prior to commencing the manoeuvre such as 1) only going out towards the middle if you are the first car in line, 2) always checking right and left before moving into the intersection to look for vehicles which may be coming through a red light, 3) ensuring that there is no blockage beyond the intersection which might prevent you from completing your turn. (Western Australian interpretation. Always check your local jurisdiction's rules if outside of WA as some rules may differ). Thanks for watching and thanks for taking the time to comment.
How far out do you go? I've had different answers from different instructors one said just enough so all four wheels are infront of the white line? Which white line the solid one or the one for pedestrians
Generally speaking you should clear the solid white line - but don't go much further than that. If you go too far out you will limit your line of sight past any car that is trying to turn to their right from the opposite side. You should wait reasonably straight with your front wheels straight. This is in case you get rear ended while waiting.
If it's a plain green light by itself (no arrow), then you turn when it's safe to go - bearing in mind who has right of way / priority. Those right of way rules for right and left turns differ depending on what part of the world you are driving in (right hand drive vs left hand drive). You should already know the right of way rules if you have a learner's permit or driver's licence and you have read your licensing authority's literature. We have a video on right of way on our channel that's relevant to Western Australia. Thanks for your comment and thanks for watching.
@@trento8397 sounds like a situation we don't have here. The same situation here there would be six lights. Green, amber, red, green arrow, amber arrow, red arrow. In a turning right situation the sequence might be green light and green arrow, then green light and amber arrow, then green light and red arrow, then the red arrow drops. Once the arrow drops, you treat the intersection as though the arrow doesn't exist and only turn when it is safe to do so. That depends on your local rules. In WA, if you have a green light and no arrow, the first car that is trying to turn right moves slightly into the intersection and only completes the turn when it is safe. That might be on the green, amber or red signal depending on what is coming in the other direction. But you must do your own research and check your rules of your local jurisdiction. Thanks for watching.
At a traffic intersection, are you allowed to wait behind the line and make sure all cars are clear from the opposite direction and then proceed to turn or do you have to move forward into the intersection and wait? Thank you very much!
These are the rules for turning right at traffic lights in Western Australia. OK? Check your local jurisdiction if outside of WA. When the lights are green but there is no arrow of any colour displayed, the first car immediately moves out towards (but just short of) the middle. The 2nd car moves up to the line but remains just behind it. The first car then completes the turn WHEN IT IS 100% SAFE TO GO. (That might indeed happen on an orange/amber or red light - depending on when the oncoming traffic stops). The 2nd car then moves towards the middle - if the light is still green. If you as the 1st car decided to wait behind the line, and there was a constant stream of cars in peak hour traffic from the opposite direction, then the light might always turn orange/amber before you got a chance to move beyond the line - so you would have to wait behind the line potentially for hours - and more and more cars would bank up behind you during that time. It would be total chaos, so you MUST immediately move towards the middle if you are 1st in line 1) in the interests of traffic flow, and 2) to demonstrate in your driving test that you know how to drive. That way, at least one car will get around the intersection on each green phase - opposed to potentially zero using your suggested method. Thanks for the question and thanks for watching. Please help to spread the word.
What about those weird hook turns you Victorians do over the tram lines in Melbourne CBD? I know iIt's a totally different situation but I'm sure those traffic lights don't have arrows. Anyhow, regardless of whether you've seen any, you must know how to safely deal with them because you might encounter them somewhere - whether it be n Melbourne or somewhere else. Thanks for watching.
for the example at @7:30 where its just a green light and no turning arrow, am i allowed to do a U TURN? and if i was to stop half way before its safe to do it will people honk you because they want to turn right but waiting for me to do a u turn????
In Western Australia you are NOT allowed to do a U Turn at traffic lights unless there is a "U Turn Permitted" sign. There aren't too many of those around. If outside of WA, check your local rules but I'd expect them to be the same.
Just to establish the situation... we're referring to countries where you drive on the left side of the road with the steering wheel on the right hand side of the car... OK? If you are turning left at an intersection, you don't need a green arrow to turn left. All you need is a green light. If you get a green light (with no arrow or with a green arrow) and you are turning LEFT you can go immediately as you have priority against cars facing you on the other side of the intersection who want to go the same way as you but are turning RIGHT. Remember, the left turn is the safe one and the right turn is the challenging one across traffic. That's why the right turn gives way to the left turn (in right hand drive countries such as Australia, UK, NZ, India). If there is a bike lane next to you or you have left a gap between you and the kerb that a bike could get through, you should do a blind spot (shoulder) check before turning. This generally applies if you are stopped or are traveling slowly. If you have been traveling at full speed for some significant distance and have been vigilant with your mirrors and there is no possible way that a bike could be there, you should apply a common sense check as to whether or not you take your eyes off the road to look for a non-existent bike. If you have a left green arrow and a red light, there shouldn't be any bikes traveling straight through but you should still check the blind spot before you turn for two reasons. 1. the bike could still travel straight ahead illegally, and 2) it's easier to execute the blind spot check reliably if you have a standard process that you always follow for turning left across a bike lane at low speed. Similarly, if you are turning right from the left lane of two right hand turning lanes (i.e. two marked lanes for turning right), you should always check for cars that might try to illegally go straight ahead from the other turning lane. Thanks for the question. Hope I managed to address it for you.
Hi, i have a question here in Victoria yesterday i'm turning right with a red arrow on the stop light, there is a plenty of space after the first stop light, what i do is go forward on that space without interupting the traffic on my front, do you think is that right? What is the right thing to do?
You cannot enter the intersection if there is a red arrow pointing in the direction you wish to turn. You must stay behind the solid line and not enter the intersection until either 1) you get a green light without an arrow and you are the first car in line, or 2) you get a green arrow (regardless of whether or not you also get a circular green light). You can turn right safely on a green arrow because the traffic opposite won't have a circular green light. You can only right turn when it is safe to do so on a circular green light, because there could be traffic coming straight through or turning left from the opposite side. (* Based on WA traffic rules - check your local jurisdiction if outside of WA).
@@ilukadrivingschool8696 thank's for the info mate..one more question, if two vehicle can fit into the intersection when turning right with a circular green light is that ok? Or one vehicle at a time only?
In WA it's one vehicle at a time. Entering the intersection while the car in front is waiting in the middle means you are entering a blocked intersection - and that's a fail! Not sure about your "hook turns" from the left lane across tram tracks in Victoria. I've seen plenty of cars queue up for those. Best to read up on your local information for that one!
what do u do if you are in middle ready to turn but car keeps coming from other direction and light turn red in your side? do you turn or stay in middle thanks
NOTE: The following is an interpretation of the situation in Western Australia. You should check the rules for your local jurisdiction if outside of WA. If you can't see properly, then you have to either wait for the cars, trucks or buses opposite you to turn so that you can see, or wait for the orange (amber) light. When the light changes to orange the straight-ahead oncoming traffic should hopefully stop (if it can do so safely) rather than trying to beat the red light. That is your opportunity to go. However, if an oncoming car tries to beat to red light (which happens all too often) you will have to wait for it to safely pass through the intersection before you VERY CAREFULLY proceed. You ABSOLUTELY can't wait out there after the light turns red (you must go as soon as it's SAFE to do so) - and you ABSOLUTELY can't reverse back!! Once you enter the intersection you are committed!! If you do need to complete your turn on a red light, make sure you do it with caution because the cars on the cross streets might be starting to move into the intersection on their own green light phase. Hopefully those other drivers will be courteous and let you go without drama - but there are never any guarantees! We have a couple of other videos that highlight this very situation. Check them out. Thanks for the question and thanks for watching.
@@betultogay1408 I would assume that it's the same as WA because there's no situation where it could be considered safe for a vehicle to sit in the middle of an intersection on a red light with cars approaching at speed from the left and right. Common sense says that you need to clear the intersection as soon as safely possible. Even with those Victorian hook turns from the left lane, the cars always clear the intersection eventually. The basic rule is that you enter the intersection on the green light and you exit as soon as it is safe (on either a green, amber or red light).
@@ilukadrivingschool8696 So the golden rule is "do not enter in the intersection and stops behind the white line till the oncoming traffic is eased and proceed to turn right?"
This is so helpful - especially the point that “the cars coming in
Opposite direction will have SAME light colours as you in a signal without Arrow”.
I have tried to summarise my understanding for turning right without arrow scenario
1) If Yours is First Car waiting to turn right,
1.1 When lights are GREEN for you (lights are also GREEN) for opposite lane
- move ahead near the middle of intersection at a point where you can see right turning / opposite traffic and wait until it’s clear or Safe to turn , Yield to any one turning left from
Opposite lane or anyone coming straight , check left right (generally the lane on your right would have stopped traffic as their light would be red now ) move when it’s safe to do so
1.2 ) If you couldn’t complete your turn on GREEN and lights change to ORANGE( remember opposite direction also gets ORANGE light now ),
Look for ant car in opposite direction trying to get across orange light as they couldn’t stop in time
Check and go once it’s Safe.
1.3) If you couldn’t complete your turn on ORANGE lights and now it turns RED
(Remember opposite direction also has RED now so no cars would come ahead now )
You have to absolutely leave the intersection and make that turn now - however , watch out for cars on tour right turning right as their green might be on anytime now - mostly there is a small gap between our Red and their green, use it and complete the turn
2) If you are NOT THE FIRST CAR,
Wait behind the white line for Green light and until cars ahead you to turn and for opposite direction to clear . If signal turns Oranfe or Red by now, wait behind the lane . If it’s still green and there is oncoming traffic , move ahead and wait (follow #1)
Once you move ahead as you are the first car , the turn needs to be done before signal goes RED as much as possible . Worst case , just turn as soon as it turns to RED(after checking right turning traffic and it is safe)
Yes Suja, that sums it up pretty well. If you are turning late on a RED light, you need to be watching for the impatient drivers on the other road (crossroad) as well, as they will be getting the green light imminently and might be in a hurry to take off. Make sure you proceed with haste to get out of the intersection promptly as soon as it is safe to do so - but make sure you do proceed with due caution. Remember, these are the rules for Western Australia. Some other Australian states and other countries might have different rules so always check your local jurisdiction. Thanks for watching.
@@ilukadrivingschool8696 thank you so much
Beautiful videos with so many real life examples.
I enjoy watching and revising with your examples to correct myself in case I do anything incorrect
Thanks for the comment - and thanks for watching!
Your videos are so clearly explained so that there is no room for confusion, thankyou for uploading these, they are very valuable and help immensely.
You're very welcome!
Very clear. Im going on my drive test next week. And this does bring clarification. Thanks
Thanks David all the videos in your Channel are amazing. I've passed my test yesterday IN JOONDALUP.
Only 4 lessons with David you are an amazing instructor. Even the assesor said "you've done a very good job, who did teach you to drive in Joondalup?"
Of course ILUKA DRIVING SCHOOL.
Thanks David!! You're highly recommended.
Well done Rian!
man ur videos need a boost, this is the only video I'hv found that explained this in detail (with a green arrow). Thank u so much.
Thanks. Help spread the word!
Thanks David this video really helped out, ive almost watched every single video on your page about driving and of course the video i miss is what caused me to fail my driving test.
Today i sat my first test in Joondalup and at 1:00 mark in the video i didn't go out and sit in the middle because i thought there was too much traffic for some reason... silly me
Next time i sit my test i will make sure to follow this rule and i should pass with flying colours.
Your a really good instructor, Thank you!
When you stop and think about it, what are some the most dangerous aspects of driving? Two that come to mind are 1) turning right without a green arrow at traffic lights and, 2) turning right at a T-junction. In both cases the consequences of making a mistake could be catastrophic. That's why the assessors endeavour to test you on them in the PDA to ensure that you can do them correctly and safely. So if you aren't completely competent in dealing with these aspects of driving, then you aren't ready to tackle the PDA. I'm not necessarily saying that YOU weren't ready but so many other people fall into this category and that's what contributes to high fail rates. Make sure you get plenty more practice in - particularly doing the more challenging aspects of driving - and in unfamiliar locations. If you haven't had a recent lesson with a qualified instructor, make sure you do before tackling the PDA again. They can make an informed decision on whether you're really "test ready". ... and good luck with your next attempt. Thanks for watching.
@@ilukadrivingschool8696 Thank you for responding with this outstanding response, i do believe i am ready for my PDA driving test as i have done over 60 hours of driving with many different people such as my instructor, parents, siblings and my instructor believed that i am ready for my PDA. I understand what your saying, i have previously known all these road rules you have mentioned although under pressure of the test they seemed to fly out of my knowledge and i totally forgot one.
Thank you for the help although!
@@Cookie-ej9nc The pressure is always there in the PDA but you'll be better next time having been through the process already. Just practice the hard things over and over again to get better at handling variations of them. For example, getting caught up on an orange or red light while waiting in the middle of the intersection, and having to deal with it without assistance from your passenger/instructor, is the type of practice you should be aiming to master.
Give Way Means Yield In The United States 🇺🇸 And Canada 🇨🇦
I hope all Australian drivers can watch this videos, Tyvm!
Failed in a similar situation, was fairly certain id pass but this gap in my knowledge means I failed for a good reason. Although I’m kicking myself for failing I’m more confident I’ll pass 2nd time around
Am so nervous driving after accident. This was very helpful, thank you!
Thank you so much for your help 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Fantastic video. Very thorough.
I’m From The United States 🇺🇸 And Left Turns You Have To Yield To Traffic Before Proceeding If There’s No Arrow If Clear Proceed Traffic Wait Till Safe Also Applies To Right Turns In Australia 🇦🇺 And Japan 🇯🇵
Correct.
I had a friend who got cleaned up in Sydney many years ago by a car that was waiting to turn right with his wheels turned. As Gary was going through the intersection the other car got rearended. Because he had his wheels turned and the car that hit him went under the back of him he flipped over and landed on Gary's car. Gary survived but his car didn't.
Thanks for the comment Alan. That's precisely why we instruct people to keep the car straight with their front wheels straight when waiting in an intersection to turn right. Obviously for those in left hand drive countries such as US / Canada / mainland Europe etc, the same principle would apply to the process of turning left at traffic lights.
I found couple of times in Bribane, such like the car like the one in blue in the video, which it doesn't need to give way to the car turning right (big turn), instead can go left straightway, perhaps it is showing courtesy? Because back a couple of years ago, New Zealand rule was like that, then it followed the Aussie rule.
More likely a lack of understanding of the rules rather than courtesy. The rule on NZ changed several years ago and most NZ drivers in Australia would be aware of our rules.
Thanks for uploading
Thank u very much
Your videos are amazing. I have a question. On green light, I have crossed the line and waiting for when it is safe to turn right but then light becomes red, In this case what I need to do? Is it alright to wait in that area for light to come green again? or I can still take right, while light is red BUT if no vehicle coming from the opposite direction? Will there be a chance of traffic coming horizontally (left to right) , when signal is red?
NOTE: The following is an interpretation of the situation in Western Australia. You should check the rules for your local jurisdiction if outside of WA.
This question has been answered many times before. It's always worthwhile scrolling through previous questions and answers to see what other people are commenting on. Anyhow, here is the answer to your question:
If you can't see properly, then you have to either wait for the cars, trucks or buses opposite you to turn so that you can see if you haven't got a good line of sight past them, or wait for the orange (amber) light. When the light changes to orange the straight-ahead oncoming traffic should hopefully stop (if it can do so safely) rather than trying to beat the red light. That is your opportunity to go. However, if an oncoming car tries to beat to red light (which happens all too often) you will have to wait for it to safely pass through the intersection before you VERY CAREFULLY proceed. You ABSOLUTELY can't wait out there after the light turns red (you must go as soon as it's SAFE to do so) - and you ABSOLUTELY can't reverse back!! Once you enter the intersection you are committed!! If you do need to complete your turn on a red light, make sure you do it with caution because the cars on the cross streets might be starting to move into the intersection on their own green light phase. Hopefully those other drivers will be courteous and let you go without drama - but there are never any guarantees! We have a couple of other videos that highlight this very situation. Check them out. Thanks for the question and thanks for watching
Fantastic video!! Thank you.
Thanks for the positive feedback!
hi today i went for my drivers test and i failed on two items (illegal act or manoeuvre) and disobeying traffic signs, signals and road markings (crossed a solid line), and im guessing the manoeuvre is this video you showed as i waited awhile in the middle for a safe gap and i saw a small gap the car was still 9-10 metres away but i believe i should of waited longer :(
From what you have described it sounds like the fail was for turning in front of an oncoming vehicle that was too close. The number of seconds of gap that you need to allow for varies in the publications by various jurisdictions but as a rough guide, a car travelling at 50kph will cover approx 100 metres in 7 seconds. You need to allow enough time to complete your manoeuvre so that the other driver doesn't need to touch their brakes and still allow you to clear them by a comfortable margin. 100 metres is about 20 - 25 car lengths. By your estimation you allowed 2 car lengths! Basically if you put the assessor into danger you will fail.
Keep up the practice and get as much practice as possible in those traffic light turning scenarios (without the aid of an arrow). Assessors are obliged to put you through those types of scenarios to ensure that you are safe when you're out there on your own with your new licence.
Thanks for watching.
Thank you!
Does this apply for all suburbs? Such as Mirrabooka? Thank you 😊
Yes, it's the same rules everywhere in Western Australia. Sometimes, however, (and not shown in this video) the car on the opposite side of the intersection might be turning to their left on a slip road with an island a Give Way sign and line at the end of it. In that case you would have right of way against that other car because they aren't turning at the actual intersection but are being diverted to their left a few metres down the road from the corner. They would have to wait behind the give way line for you to go past them.
@@ilukadrivingschool8696 Give Way Signs Mean Yield
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THANK YOU! Much appreciated.
Hi David, at 3:35 the sliver car had right to turn left but he refused, how can we negotiate with the examiner if that’s the case? Do we wait till that car turn? Or what should we do please? :-)
It’s a blue car 🚙 not sliver
You go out towards the middle as you would normally and then you wait for that car to turn the corner. Eventually to light will turn orange and then you can proceed with caution if there is clearly no vehicle attempting to move through the intersection from the other direction. Remember the cars coming from the other direction have the same coloured traffic light as you. If you want to say something to the assessor while you are waiting for the other driver to go, you can. Say something like "the other car has right of way so I can't go". Then the assessor knows what you are thinking. You absolutely CAN'T GO while the car is sitting there because it still has right of way while the light is green. Once the light changes to orange and they still aren't moving they are legally obliged to remain there so you can proceed with caution as long as there is nobody else coming straight through the intersection. Remember you must clear the intersection as soon as it is safe to go once the light turns orange or red. Thanks for the very good question.
When turning from the far right lane, you Always turn into the right lane, never the centre lane.
Of course it depends on the rules in your local jurisdiction. But in Western Australia (where this video was filmed), you can flow to the left or right lanes when turning onto a two lane carriageway at an intersection provided that there is only one lane for turning in that direction. The rule was changed here several years ago to cater for oversized vehicles, but for simplicity of enforcement it was extended to all vehicles. Indeed if you are told to turn right and then turn left as a single instruction in your WA driving test, you would likely lose a mark if you didn't flow directly to the lane that was appropriate for the 2nd manoeuvre. As always, check your local jurisdiction's rules. Thanks for watching and commenting. It helps to clarify it for others and reminds viewers that rules can vary depending on where you live.
@@ilukadrivingschool8696 Driving on the left side would be so awkward that at 75 I’d probably stop driving. Thanks for the explanation in any case.
Arrows Are Not Flexible Or Variable In The United States 🇺🇸 Especially In New York State We Have All Left Turn Arrows If Not We Still Do The Same Thing Check For Oncoming Traffic If Clear Proceed Safely
4:36 ... U say we stop about here ..
But where is the point we need to stop
🛑 Is it on the second line of the pedestrian crossing OR
🛑 In the middle of the road ( of the road coming from right ?)
🛑 Or just cross ur front wheel on that solid white line of our red light And stop there some where ...
You need to move out past the white line (the one that you would stop at on a red light). You go out for a distance of approximately 1 to 1.5 car lengths. The key point is that you need to ENTER the intersection on the green (or amber if the light changes on you as you enter). Once you have entered the intersection, you are committed to leaving the intersection during that phase of lights. That might mean leaving on the green light (it it's clearly safe), or on the amber or red if you need to wait for oncoming traffic to clear or stop - but you must clear the intersection - you can't remain out there. The distance that you move out depend on the size of the intersection (some are bigger than others) but you should never wait 'in the middle'. You should be short of the middle 1) so that you have good line of sight past any oncoming cars (or buses) that are waiting to turn right from opposite you, and 2) your path isn't allowed to impede the intended path of those cars waiting opposite. So you have to balance waiting far enough back to see properly versus ensuring that you have completely entered the intersection. If you don't go far enough into the intersection and wait straddling the while line, you might activate a red light camera while waiting for vehicles to slowdown or stop on their amber/red light. You should escape a fine as it wasn't your fault - you have no option but to wait for oncoming cars to clear. Remember, if you don't have a turning arrow, then generally the oncoming traffic is seeing the same coloured light as you at any point of time while you are out there beyond the line trying to turn - so you have certainty of what they are seeing. NOTE: This is a Western Australian interpretation - check your local jurisdiction as rules can, and do, vary.
What if the light goes red while in the intersection?
NOTE: The following is an interpretation of the situation in Western Australia. You should check the rules for your local jurisdiction if outside of WA.
This question has been answered many times before. It's always worthwhile scrolling through previous questions and answers to see what other people are commenting on. Anyhow, here is the answer to your question:
If you can't see properly, then you have to either wait for the cars, trucks or buses opposite you to turn so that you can see, or wait for the orange (amber) light. When the light changes to orange the straight-ahead oncoming traffic should hopefully stop (if it can do so safely) rather than trying to beat the red light. That is your opportunity to go. However, if an oncoming car tries to beat to red light (which happens all too often) you will have to wait for it to safely pass through the intersection before you VERY CAREFULLY proceed. You ABSOLUTELY can't wait out there after the light turns red (you must go as soon as it's SAFE to do so) - and you ABSOLUTELY can't reverse back!! Once you enter the intersection you are committed!! If you do need to complete your turn on a red light, make sure you do it with caution because the cars on the cross streets might be starting to move into the intersection on their own green light phase. Hopefully those other drivers will be courteous and let you go without drama - but there are never any guarantees! We have a couple of other videos that highlight this very situation. Check them out. Thanks for the question and thanks for watching.
when turning at a traffic light, what lane do we enter after going through the lights? some people say closest curb which is the right lane whereas others say you should go into the left lane.
It depends on your local road rules. In Western Australia you can flow to either the left or right lane when turning left or right at an intersection. You can't do that if there are two lanes provided for turning either right or left (such as at very busy intersections). In that case you must stay in your lane for the entire turn. It is also necessary in your driving test to stay in your lane until you are through a roundabout and have completed the exit. When flowing to the far lane at an intersection you do not have to change your indicator. e.g. turning right and flowing to the left lane - just indicate right through the entire manoeuvre. If you are told to turn right and then take the next street left in your driving test, you must consider all of that information when selecting your lane. If you don't flow to the correct lane and then have to do a rushed lane change, you might be marked down on the category of 'Flow". That could be costly in your test if you make several other "flow" errors. In a country where you drive on the left side of the road, the default lane is the left lane so consider that when turning (unless your next turn is going to be to the right). Again, this is all based on a Western Australian interpretation, Check your local jurisdiction if outside of WA. Thanks for watching.
There r two different intersections in ur video. First one you entered a right lane where right turn was marked.. But in the second intersection,, there was no right marked on the road. And there were two lanes.. So while driving I. The unknown roads for the first time,, we might enter a left lane as well in the second intersection.. So can we still go to the right from the left lane... Can u please clarify
You can only turn right from the left lane if there is an arrow painted on the road telling you that you can. Driving requires common sense so there won't always be arrows painted on the road telling you where you can and can't go. But have a think about it. If there is no arrow painted on the road in the right lane, then vehicles in that lane can go either straight ahead or turn right. Similarly if there is no arrow painted on the road in the left lane, then those vehicles can either go straight ahead or turn left. What happens if there is a car in both lanes and one car goes straight ahead and the other one in the other lane turns the wrong way? Crash!! There is your answer! Thanks for watching and for posing the question.
So basically if there is a green arrow u can freely make a right turn but if it's just a normal green light then u have to go halfway in the intersection n wait till it's clear from upcoming cars?
Yes. That's pretty much it (provided that you're in a country where traffic drives on the left side of the road) . You moves TOWARDS halfway - not TO halfway, as you need to leave room for a vehicle turning to their right from the opposite direction, while maintaining the best possible line of sight towards the other oncoming (straight ahead and left turning) vehicles. Of course there are additional considerations prior to commencing the manoeuvre such as 1) only going out towards the middle if you are the first car in line, 2) always checking right and left before moving into the intersection to look for vehicles which may be coming through a red light, 3) ensuring that there is no blockage beyond the intersection which might prevent you from completing your turn. (Western Australian interpretation. Always check your local jurisdiction's rules if outside of WA as some rules may differ). Thanks for watching and thanks for taking the time to comment.
How far out do you go? I've had different answers from different instructors one said just enough so all four wheels are infront of the white line? Which white line the solid one or the one for pedestrians
Generally speaking you should clear the solid white line - but don't go much further than that. If you go too far out you will limit your line of sight past any car that is trying to turn to their right from the opposite side. You should wait reasonably straight with your front wheels straight. This is in case you get rear ended while waiting.
What happens at a traffic light where there is no red arrow? Only amber arrow and green arrow. In this case you can turn but give way, correct?
If it's a plain green light by itself (no arrow), then you turn when it's safe to go - bearing in mind who has right of way / priority. Those right of way rules for right and left turns differ depending on what part of the world you are driving in (right hand drive vs left hand drive). You should already know the right of way rules if you have a learner's permit or driver's licence and you have read your licensing authority's literature. We have a video on right of way on our channel that's relevant to Western Australia. Thanks for your comment and thanks for watching.
@@ilukadrivingschool8696 thanks for the reply, I am talking about when there is no red arrow light, meaning the light is blank it's not there.
Meaning, traffic light has 5 lights main 3, amber arrow and green arrow, I am from nsw
@@trento8397 sounds like a situation we don't have here. The same situation here there would be six lights. Green, amber, red, green arrow, amber arrow, red arrow. In a turning right situation the sequence might be green light and green arrow, then green light and amber arrow, then green light and red arrow, then the red arrow drops. Once the arrow drops, you treat the intersection as though the arrow doesn't exist and only turn when it is safe to do so. That depends on your local rules. In WA, if you have a green light and no arrow, the first car that is trying to turn right moves slightly into the intersection and only completes the turn when it is safe. That might be on the green, amber or red signal depending on what is coming in the other direction. But you must do your own research and check your rules of your local jurisdiction. Thanks for watching.
At a traffic intersection, are you allowed to wait behind the line and make sure all cars are clear from the opposite direction and then proceed to turn or do you have to move forward into the intersection and wait? Thank you very much!
These are the rules for turning right at traffic lights in Western Australia. OK? Check your local jurisdiction if outside of WA.
When the lights are green but there is no arrow of any colour displayed, the first car immediately moves out towards (but just short of) the middle. The 2nd car moves up to the line but remains just behind it. The first car then completes the turn WHEN IT IS 100% SAFE TO GO. (That might indeed happen on an orange/amber or red light - depending on when the oncoming traffic stops). The 2nd car then moves towards the middle - if the light is still green.
If you as the 1st car decided to wait behind the line, and there was a constant stream of cars in peak hour traffic from the opposite direction, then the light might always turn orange/amber before you got a chance to move beyond the line - so you would have to wait behind the line potentially for hours - and more and more cars would bank up behind you during that time. It would be total chaos, so you MUST immediately move towards the middle if you are 1st in line 1) in the interests of traffic flow, and 2) to demonstrate in your driving test that you know how to drive. That way, at least one car will get around the intersection on each green phase - opposed to potentially zero using your suggested method.
Thanks for the question and thanks for watching.
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@@ilukadrivingschool8696 thank you so much
In The United States 🇺🇸 That’s How Left Turns Operate
I've never actually seen traffic lights without an arrow. That's very weird. I'm from Melbourne.
What about those weird hook turns you Victorians do over the tram lines in Melbourne CBD? I know iIt's a totally different situation but I'm sure those traffic lights don't have arrows. Anyhow, regardless of whether you've seen any, you must know how to safely deal with them because you might encounter them somewhere - whether it be n Melbourne or somewhere else. Thanks for watching.
for the example at @7:30 where its just a green light and no turning arrow, am i allowed to do a U TURN? and if i was to stop half way before its safe to do it will people honk you because they want to turn right but waiting for me to do a u turn????
In Western Australia you are NOT allowed to do a U Turn at traffic lights unless there is a "U Turn Permitted" sign. There aren't too many of those around. If outside of WA, check your local rules but I'd expect them to be the same.
What country is this channel from?
@@amparoguay Australia
@@ilukadrivingschool8696 Nice!
Any advice on a green left light? What if it’s not showing? Give way to cyclists in the bicycle lane?
Just to establish the situation... we're referring to countries where you drive on the left side of the road with the steering wheel on the right hand side of the car... OK? If you are turning left at an intersection, you don't need a green arrow to turn left. All you need is a green light. If you get a green light (with no arrow or with a green arrow) and you are turning LEFT you can go immediately as you have priority against cars facing you on the other side of the intersection who want to go the same way as you but are turning RIGHT. Remember, the left turn is the safe one and the right turn is the challenging one across traffic. That's why the right turn gives way to the left turn (in right hand drive countries such as Australia, UK, NZ, India). If there is a bike lane next to you or you have left a gap between you and the kerb that a bike could get through, you should do a blind spot (shoulder) check before turning. This generally applies if you are stopped or are traveling slowly. If you have been traveling at full speed for some significant distance and have been vigilant with your mirrors and there is no possible way that a bike could be there, you should apply a common sense check as to whether or not you take your eyes off the road to look for a non-existent bike. If you have a left green arrow and a red light, there shouldn't be any bikes traveling straight through but you should still check the blind spot before you turn for two reasons. 1. the bike could still travel straight ahead illegally, and 2) it's easier to execute the blind spot check reliably if you have a standard process that you always follow for turning left across a bike lane at low speed. Similarly, if you are turning right from the left lane of two right hand turning lanes (i.e. two marked lanes for turning right), you should always check for cars that might try to illegally go straight ahead from the other turning lane. Thanks for the question. Hope I managed to address it for you.
Hi, i have a question here in Victoria yesterday i'm turning right with a red arrow on the stop light, there is a plenty of space after the first stop light, what i do is go forward on that space without interupting the traffic on my front, do you think is that right? What is the right thing to do?
You cannot enter the intersection if there is a red arrow pointing in the direction you wish to turn. You must stay behind the solid line and not enter the intersection until either 1) you get a green light without an arrow and you are the first car in line, or 2) you get a green arrow (regardless of whether or not you also get a circular green light). You can turn right safely on a green arrow because the traffic opposite won't have a circular green light. You can only right turn when it is safe to do so on a circular green light, because there could be traffic coming straight through or turning left from the opposite side.
(* Based on WA traffic rules - check your local jurisdiction if outside of WA).
@@ilukadrivingschool8696 thank's for the info mate..one more question, if two vehicle can fit into the intersection when turning right with a circular green light is that ok? Or one vehicle at a time only?
In WA it's one vehicle at a time. Entering the intersection while the car in front is waiting in the middle means you are entering a blocked intersection - and that's a fail! Not sure about your "hook turns" from the left lane across tram tracks in Victoria. I've seen plenty of cars queue up for those. Best to read up on your local information for that one!
@@ilukadrivingschool8696 thanks for your info i pass my drive test last week..
@@lslly Turning Right In Australia 🇦🇺 Is The Same As Turning Left In The United States 🇺🇸
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what do u do if you are in middle ready to turn but car keeps coming from other direction and light turn red in your side? do you turn or stay in middle thanks
NOTE: The following is an interpretation of the situation in Western Australia. You should check the rules for your local jurisdiction if outside of WA.
If you can't see properly, then you have to either wait for the cars, trucks or buses opposite you to turn so that you can see, or wait for the orange (amber) light. When the light changes to orange the straight-ahead oncoming traffic should hopefully stop (if it can do so safely) rather than trying to beat the red light. That is your opportunity to go. However, if an oncoming car tries to beat to red light (which happens all too often) you will have to wait for it to safely pass through the intersection before you VERY CAREFULLY proceed. You ABSOLUTELY can't wait out there after the light turns red (you must go as soon as it's SAFE to do so) - and you ABSOLUTELY can't reverse back!! Once you enter the intersection you are committed!! If you do need to complete your turn on a red light, make sure you do it with caution because the cars on the cross streets might be starting to move into the intersection on their own green light phase. Hopefully those other drivers will be courteous and let you go without drama - but there are never any guarantees! We have a couple of other videos that highlight this very situation. Check them out. Thanks for the question and thanks for watching.
ILUKA Driving School thank you for your reply
What about vic? Would you wait in the middle after it's red or continue your turb
@@betultogay1408 I would assume that it's the same as WA because there's no situation where it could be considered safe for a vehicle to sit in the middle of an intersection on a red light with cars approaching at speed from the left and right. Common sense says that you need to clear the intersection as soon as safely possible. Even with those Victorian hook turns from the left lane, the cars always clear the intersection eventually. The basic rule is that you enter the intersection on the green light and you exit as soon as it is safe (on either a green, amber or red light).
@@ilukadrivingschool8696 So the golden rule is "do not enter in the intersection and stops behind the white line till the oncoming traffic is eased and proceed to turn right?"
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