Rahul Sonpimple's Bold Take on Love and Religion
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
- Episode 2 of Culture Cafe by AMV.
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dimag ghuma diya bhai is vichaar ne ! aise to socha hi nahi tha. kudos to such conversations. keep it going
Jai Bhim Anurag Bhai, It's always a treat listening/reading to you and Rahul Sonpimple sir. I(savarna) think of "using" religion as a tool for resistance which would materially be like converting in to Buddhism legally, having a Buddhist wedding, reading about it to the extent that you know about it good enough. This is also because as Periyar said that in India you can't be a atheist or a non-hindu, you have to pick a more powerful religion. But there is no surplus in that, I am still maintaining a certain distance from it. I can feel that surplus, that reverence when think of Baba Sahib. When I started reading him, I only saw him as an intellectual and an activist but as I started reading more and listening to podcast like yours and Buffalo Intellectual, slowly "Ambedkar" got converted to "Baba Sahib" for me. He became a god for me. This has also changed the sensations that I get when I say- "Jai Bhim", it's no longer just an act of resistance for me(right now what buddhism is for me), there are a lot more emotions attached to it. My view regarding how I want to perceive buddism has changed after this podcast.
I do hope this podcast becomes my Number 1 Comfort Podcast.
What a beautiful discussion !
Jay Bhim 💙 dada tumhi major Vivek Jacob sarkhe dista ani bolta pn tshech ❤️🇮🇳
superb podcast
Hearing Rahul speak makes me think on things deeply and relate with my hometown politics discourse. Hoping to listen more such speakers in the coming months. Really happy that anurag finally started with a video podcast. SO HAPPY!!!!!!
Thoroughly enjoyed watching it.
Actually thought provoking💙
This is beautiful ❤
Very simple and beautifully present Rahul Bhai ... please keep talking
always a joy to listen to Rahul ❤
Beautiful podcast, loved it. Thanks Anurag bhai
At 36:00 Rahul Sonpimple is absolutely right. Divine authority is a very powerful idea that can shape and create social meta structure. In India it created caste system in India, it turned numerous warring Arab tribes into a solid polity that established caliphates, etc. Even without belief in God, religion provides framework for interpersonal relations between individuals in a society.
Taking the example you gave for Islam with Arabs, their divisions never went away. They just made different sects within Islam and continued the discrimination.
So how does a divine authority help create an equal and rational society?
@@sarahsiddiqui6494 maube in islam it doesnt happen but buddhism also has sects but it doesnt discriminate on the basis of your sect
@@sarahsiddiqui6494 My idea behind divine authority is to create a common identity among oppressed castes to fend off discrimination by oppressors. For oppressed main concern is to end discrimination.
Great going Anurag dada. Rahul sir as radical, as sharp as always. Keep it coming 🙌🏽
Thanks a ton
Really thought provoking 💙
About your fear about bhante Ji becoming pandits. Bhai, angulimala bhi bhante bana tha. Bhante as a religious person has always been an open position in the society. A position that promotes equality rather than demoting it.
Mind blowing ❤
Dr. Yashwant manohar said in his book Surrender(शरणम्)means acknowledging dominance. If the meaning of sharanam as above, then the function of 'Att deep bhava'? This is said by the Buddha himself. And that is the ultimate ideal of human life according to him. One of the meanings of 'Atta dip bhava' is the path itself. Don't be dependent, be self-sufficient. Do not be emotionally, ideologically, financially dependent on anyone. That is, in this context, Buddha himself says that no one should dominate, no one should have monopoly. Further in the book he said Buddha does not say Trisaran. Buddha, who is the peak of humility, cannot say 'Bhi Surrenders to Buddha'. It means Trisarana is created after Buddha. And later people have given this formula of surrender to Buddha. So our first point is that the Buddha did not say 'trisarana'. Again he said that it's not शरणम् it's सरणं . Means in Marathi अनुसरणे that is 'to follow'. Dr. Babasaheb said in his dhamm diksha speech used the word सरणं .
Great episode again, love Rahul Sonpimple's thoughts while conversing with AMV. Was looking forward to the answer given when amv asked about the monk later becoming (a vihara equivalent) of a brahmin priest, with the power, hierarchy and authority vested on them. Got an interesting answer on hierarchy being everywhere, instead.
But to expect a proper answer on this nuanced topic from a 45 min podcast is a crime. Thank for leading the way to read more about Buddhism, esp Babasaheb's works. ❤
P.s. - amv's shirts and tshirts would probably need a seperate fan club, thanks to this channel 🎉
Thank you so much😊
Love is a long Road & Religiously challenged person hu 🎉
thank you for bringing such a great podcast
0:00 Love the T-Shirt 👏🏽
bhai bhai .....hilaaa daala ekdum ....baat sahi boli hai
Intresting and engaging conversation, out of the box
Hope is instilled every time I hear Rahul Sonpimple speak 💙💙. And also Anurag bhai for his insightful, thought provoking conversations that he manages to put in the podcast. The lovers for this duo are only gonna increase in numbers. It's high time that we see Buddhism , Buddha as our supreme God or authority . Everyone in my family considers Babasaheb as God. Let Buddhism be our religion in which there is a supreme being or enlightened one who is our God or Master. My whatsapp description says Buddha is my Master. Babasaheb also said this. I understand what Rahul Sonpimple is trying to convey and I agree totally. Babasaheb would not be Babasaheb in our lives if we did not look upon him as our God. It's our huge mountainous ever filling love and gratitude for him that we call him our God. What a podcast man ....💙 .
Jai Bheem. Namo buddhay 💙
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@shubamchande4360 Tathagat Buddha declined the existence of God. He is our leader and guru.
Even if you convert to Buddhism, caste will creep in.
If it persisted in Islam and Christianity, Buddhism or even scientific rationalism will not be spared.
The politicians are the real Brahmins and untouchability practitioners.
islam and christianity is different buddhism is very individualistic
@@righteousrebellious2330 tell that in a monastery or a monk who comes to give a speech.
Someone who has freed himself from religion will not be watching this very video in the first place.
@@xdfckt2564 I am religious though
@@righteousrebellious2330 are you individualistic or religious?
It's funny, the Buddha showed there is no such thing as an individual
@@xdfckt2564 kuch sense hai, are bhai spirituality starts with materialism, and materiastically i am individualistic ,spiritually maybe i will reach the stage of anatma (the thing which you are talking about) although it is very hard
Tum dono ko to jindagi bhar sunte rahu 😊😊
Bring chandra bhan sir as well , and i would love to see his views on buddhism , socio-political & cultural autonomy and ambedkarvaad
Please listen or read osho to clarify about buddhism in relation to castism and ambedkarite movement.
42:46 💯💯
I think the main struggle for Scheduled castes(SC) all over India right now , is making sure the people who are converting to Buddism are not just following Budhha and Ambedkar like god . Sure they started worshiping B & A in search of a new GOD. But making sure that they reason with the B & A , read them , talk about them is what SCs mean when they say , don't make A a god. Or else like every other religion , some guy will write a book saying A said this , and the whole SCs will follow them blindly.
Sure we have huge political footprint coz we made A a god , but we would have made a huge progress as a community if we had read them and accepted buddhism from the start.
Buddism before A - Nirvana , how to get rid of Dukhha
Buddism with A - Organise as a religion ..form a brotherhood with fellow SCs plus Budhism before A
Is this why you shared zizek’s reel “I am generally opposed to wisdom. Whatever you do a wise man will come to justify it.”
By the way this episode was recorded earlier you still have long hair in this :)
Loved the conversation ❤
This was recorded in winters. 3 months back :)
I want to tell here that in Nagpur there are many Buddha Viharas which has been made by Congress Dalit leader and some where on illegally acquired land supported by same this leader. That’s why these Viharas became political adda for Congress where chanting and vandanas are held for very political purpose. As Rahul said mostly women remain present there these women are also part of this politics. These same women go to home and watch sasu bahu’s serial and become the victim of this TV shows. Now some Viharas are providing some place for library for students residing there this good thing. But Viharas are not being used for its very purpose of imparting Buddha’s teaching. Your fear for Bhikshu becoming authority which can be harmful is already happened. This same fear Babasaheb showed in his literature Buddha and his Dhamma read its preface or introduction. Many Bhikshu are like roaming Bull and has made vastuk or worship of Buddha a business they are demanding money and clothes according to their wish but not capacity of a person. And they target rich families for this worship and many incidents happened which can blot the very this respected post of Bhikshu which I don’t want to mention here.
The authority of Babasaheb and Buddha as a Master is acceptable but not of Bhikshu.
2-3 baar dekhna sun'na chahiye isko.
Communities need prophets.
Nice conversation
thoda aur surplus aur ye sabh explain karne ki zaroorta this. thoda aur usko question karna tha for better understanding.
Why is so much alcoholism problem in SC community, I have seen so many lives destroyed because of this
By converting to Buddhism, are you not taking away their indigenous dieties which they worship and they are not related to vedic dieties
Nope. They too have to go. No place for superstition and the imaginary
@@xdfckt2564 Then dravidians and leftist better not cry about Vedic customs destroying their culture
there is nothing indigenous about it its just that our forefathers fell into these traps......
There were 10000 Buddha's before me and 10000 will come after me.
- Gotama.
You are talking about Gotama, not the Buddha.
Yahi baat mai bolta tha toh gali padti thi Woke Dalits se Twitter pe..
Ye channel ab jaake mila hai bro. Wtf you should advertise it more .
We rely only on word of mouth:)
@TheCultureCafebyAMV-re8hs well, that's good. You will then have quality followers .
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Whats on the t shirt
Malcolm X
bhai i am from alwar Rajasthan. sorry but this victimhood mentallity only created anxiety, depression and hate and suffering with in meet. Buddism was and will always be foreign religion for me and why should i leave my religion ,gods because of some upper cast people i dont consider them owner of hinduism. some of my relative follow buddism and when i meet them i found them as headless chicken filled with hate ,hate,hate. i dont want to live my remaning life like this
Who is write hindu scriptures
You know ony people who change religion you don't khow buddhist 1st generation and second generation.
1st, 2nd generation is totally different they don't have any hate for hindu and hinduism, they don't consider hinduism is affecte their lives
It's a self-defence, countries do fight war to protect themselves. They are raping and killing our people so how can one counter them, and this has been happening from before the time of Buddha. Who destroyed Indus valley civilization? They have destroyed our whole culture and consciousness, and enslaved us both physically and mentally.
There are many big holes in his theory and very incorrect too like some madeup theories
not really,ambedkar talked about the importance of religion