🚫 Top Flight Football Match ABANDONED Because Of Rain
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- Опубликовано: 16 мар 2024
- I tried to attend Dundee v Rangers in the Scottish Premiership but the game was abandoned due to overnight rain. Dens Park is a classic old stadium but it's clear that Dundee FC need a new home.
Thanks to John Nelms & Don Robertson for their time to chat.
Subscribe to @dundeefcofficial for updates on the new stadium!
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Huge thanks to John Nelms & Don Robertson for taking the time to talk today. I like old stadiums but it's clear to see that Dundee need to get cracking with the new one ASAP.
Have you seen the state of Bradford City's Park? Much worse than Dundee's
Alan Shields
Hamilton
South Lanarkshire
Scotland.
Just how many times are
Dundee going to get away with failing to maintain
Dens Park & that pitch
before they are deducted points, they should be deducted at the very lest
12 points or even automatically relegated
for bringing Scottish football into disrepute.
It's not a good look for
the club game in Scotland.
I want to be enthusiastic about our club football in
Scotland, but let's be very honest here it has a hell of a lot of problems if
Scottish club football
was a person that person would be on life support
since the 2009/2010 season, if not longer.
We have a glorious football history the presnt is ugly & and in the future, let's say personally I am far from hopeful.
For me personally, even both Old Firm clubs need neeed new stadiums if
we look at what Spurs &
Manchester City have in terms of stadiums
we are light years behind in terms of stadiums in Scotland the fact that the best stadium in all of Scotland is Rugby Union stadium is that not telling Scottish football clubs something myb one day soon the penny will drop & the people how are running our game in there heads the lights might just come home because
people like
Neil Doncaster have no signs of habitation in their skulls what so ever.
Regardless of how was wasplay Dundee today, this situation is an embarrassing joke.
He's only trying to get some positive pr because he got rid of 2 groundsmen this season and it's bit him on the backside
Fair play to the guys for talking to u mate 👍🏼 Dundee really need a new stadium that’s for sure tho why not just play the game to tannadice today
Maybe come to a Falkirk game. u know the one club still unbeaten, but u won't because its all Rangers Rangers 🙄 football adventures used to be all clubs now. it's just your favourite ones. Not that u care Falkirk could champions on Saturday 1st club in uk to do so this season.
Great to have a referee come on and do an interview. Humanises them. Well done on getting a 12 minute video out of a game that didn't happen
Exactly, he gave the rationale behind his decision, that his priority was the safety of the players. Most of the pitch looked playable but it was clear that there were some areas where it would have been at best tricky to play through.
Anything to get that 10 minute long video mate that’s how creators like this make money
And fair play to him for it. It's his job after all@@brandonmccrorie1312
Belter of a video. Its interesting to hear from the owner and ref. To be honest, this is more interesting than the match coverage would have been. I like how you and StuntP are able to create alternative footballing content beyond the obvious.
The images of Dundee’s new stadium look incredible. Will be great for Dundee and Scottish football once it’s done! Let’s hope Aberdeen can follow in their footsteps 🏴🌟
I'll crack the jokes 🤣🤣🤣
It may surprise people but my club Carlisle United haven’t had a game called off for a water logged pitch since 2006!
Very interesting video this.
Great interview with the owner.
Didn't you play home matches at Preston and Blackpool a few years ago, due to flooding?
@@vetland11 that is true. The surprising fact was that the pitch was okay. The ground, including stands, ticket office and changing rooms were out of commission.
The playing surface was fine.
The Brunton park pitch has been invested in. It’s in amazingly good condition.
A marble base layer and substrate means it drains incredibly well.
Great to actually hear a ref talk about an issue and great to hear the owner , good work Sam , I hope Dundee get their new ground sorted , clubs in Scotland need to get their acts together a new ground plus the revenue from the side interests is the way ahead .
The match was not ABANDONED. It was postponed.
It's a shithole, just saying from Glasgow 😎🇬🇧
Fair play to the owner and referee for coming on the vlog! Would love to see the referees come out and speak more 👏
Genuine good luck John Nelms, on your new stadium project.
Games were played on the same day in dundee at Graham street and Riverside parks from 10 am onwards.They got the same rain as dens yet they can play games there
Fair play to the ref. These things happen. Hope Dundee gets the new stadium sorted.
That is so lovely seeing the English ground-hopping fans. So, so, nice, and it was really nice seeing a lot of them doing the games in East Lothian. I saw them at Tranent that day. So passionate, very friendly.
Still have a long way to go before I finish the 92 in England, but watching your videos makes me so excited to move onto the Scottish 42 one day, I hope some of these vintage stands are still around when I'm doing it
Hi mate, love your videos. You have really turned me on to Scottish Football and it is so much more than the Old Firm! Got a suggestion for you, just an idea but it would be cool if you could maybe do some training ground tours as well as stadiums? Not sure if access would be an issue but with your profile it could be worth asking some clubs.
All the best and keep up the top work!
dawned on me while watching this video, you're interviewing skills are spot on... great answers from the ref and the owner based upon your Q's....
Great vid mate, and well done to the groundhopper lads who made the trip up…haste ye back! 👍🏴⚽️
The problem with Dundee and Aberdeen wheeling out their plans for new stadiums over the years is they invest the bare minimum in their current venues. Until the new stadiums are reality and construction is underway, they should be forced to have their facilities up to a certain level. Embarrassing for Scottish football
clubs like Aberdeen and Dundee have to live within their means , i know some clubs use tax loopholes or go into adminastration or worse liquidation to "clear" their debt but others would rather remain debt free
Dundee have been in administration twice in the last 20 years.
@@chrisb9360 exactly! i take it they dont want to enter it again, they seem to have decent people in charge now who im sure will do what needs to be done
@@andrewjohnston2850 stop deflecting Dundee are at fault we don’t care about your purse strings either.
@@janice506 deflecting?? who must be confussing me with the sevco manager
As a Dundonian, I would hate to see Dundee move to Camperdown as Dundee's home is Dens but I also understand that a new stadium is badly needed, so why can't Dundee not just demolish Dens and then rebuild a new stadium where the old one once stood?
The move to Camperdown is not really a good one in my opinion but I'll spare my reasons as I'm sure nobody wants to read a novel of negative opinions.
As for what will happen to Dens after Dundee leave, I get the feeling that the land will be sold, either to the local council who will then sell it to a housing developer or Dundee will sell it it straight to a housing developer. Either way, the land that Dens currently occupies will become housing and if any legacy of Dens remains, I feel as if it'll only be in the form of a street name and that's it.
Something like "Dens Park" or "Dens Avenue".
an idea for next seasons scottish junior cup. start at the lowest level and follow the winners into the nest round and whoever wins that and so on until the final. like you i enjoy football whoever is playing but i have a soft spot for junior football as i find it honest, gritty and the halftime pie and bovril is a treat long remembered. all the best with the channel. peace. robert. ps...c'mon the gow!
Guys up for Sheffield knew about the game getting called off before Rangers did. Mental....Welcome to Scottish Football.
Cos they're cheating bastards mate man made to get game called off as there players wanted rest after getting pumped with benfica they were very tired so obviously with. The help ov SFA, sevco survive again but who's top ov the league enough said numpties 😂😂🎉😮
@@StephenMcinally-gr2uc Oh Rangers made it rain. That's some conspiracy 😂
should have never been cancelled that time of day, absolutely ridiculous
One option could have been to demolish Dens Park, Dundee would have to groundshare with United for awhile, and build a new modern stadium on the Dens Park site. I haven't visited the ground so I don't know the infrastructure of the area and if this would have been a practical option.
A thing to do, stand at the Dundee ground and look down to Dundee United. A true football moment.
Yeah we need a stadium pronto! 😢 I think part of the biggest problem may be funding and sponsorship due to historically not performing, however the team we have just now I believe, even without the players on loan, will start attracting more investment...and with the plans for a new stadium...even more! I've been going to dens park for 25 years so will be sad to see it go tbh. But the future is bright for the club!
Shame to see them move but thats evolution and a needy development in the eyes of the Club so fair play to them.
Loved visiting the old Dens circa late 70's. 2 covered sheds so iconic 🎉
As a Dundee supporter it’s sad to see the plans that have been put in place to build our new stadium as dens has a lot of history and the fact that dens park and tannadice are the two closest stadiums in the world is amazing I think all my club needs to do is knock down a or main stand ( which is the bendy one ) and build a new one and knock down the Derry ( which is the half stand that has DFC on it by the way it does still get used ) and build a new full stand there
In the USA, owners prefer to build new stadiums instead of renovate because they buy up all the land and infrastructure around it.
Usually it is more profitable than the stadiums themselves.
Don't know if is the same in Scotland/UK.
Also, they threaten to relocate and get the cities/states to pay for a large chunk of it as well.
Woah. You got the owner and the ref to do a ptc. Well done, mate. How many other RUclipsrs got that. Fantastic.
Must have been a while since you were at Dens , the stand opposite the main is the Derry (posh name - South Enclosure) and it full of the loudest part of the home support .
This is not hating on Dundee but this needs to be said over and over again, this is the FOURTH time this season a match has had to be cancelled at that ground because the pitch is done in by the weather, despite the fact Tannadice is only a couple hundred yards away, subject to the exact same weather but manages to play its games.
Rangers gets cancelled an hour and a half before kick off.
Aberdeens game at Dens was cancelled 45 minutes before kick off.
The only way to stop this from happening is to punish repeat offenders with a large points deduction.
This not only shows Dundee as rank amateurs it is also terrible optics for the top flight of Scottish football.
Don't be such a drama queen. The rain fell just a few hours before the game was due to kick off and was heavy and incessant. Same thing happened before the other postponed matches. Has this level of rain happened just before any game at Tannadice this season? No, so no comparison. Some other folk are screaming 'only match off in the country this weekend'. Only game scheduled after the rain while the rest were before? Yes, the drainage is a disaster and the club needs to get it sorted but shouts of large points deductions are ridiculous in the extreme - deduct points for extreme weather? What next? Deduct points for turning up late for games or for fans causing delays due to fire alarms going off when an illegal smoke bomb display takes place? Deduct points for fans running on the pitch and attacking opposition goalkeepers? You're either an Arab or a Rangers fan, one of those examples will ring with you, either way you need to get that bitterness out of your system.
@@brianlawrence8401 The point obviously flew right over your head. It's irrelevant the level of rain that fell, we live in Scotland, it's not new. The problem is the failure of Dens park bosses in addressing the problem. FOUR times in one season and that's the ones that were so bad had to be called off. You realize the large bald patches of mud didn't just appear? That doesn't happen with just a few hours rain, that is a drainage AND a neglect problem. I've landscaped 22 years i know what i talk about, the what about the games that did go ahead on the SPFL equivalent of a cow field? It's a shocking state of affairs for it to be happening in Scotlands top flight and if you can't see that or try to minimise the overall effect these call offs have on the football calender, fans, TV and the optics to a domestic and overseas audience then i don't know what to tell you.
The prospect of a large points deduction would have 100% prevented this, you could bet Dundee would have got their finger out a few seasons back and had the drainage fixed. Instead because they intend on moving they have spent next to nothing on their responsibities as a member of the SPFL.
As for your accusations of either an Arab or Rangers blah blah blah stinks of you deflecting onto those calling this out as the problem rather than those running Dundee. 🖕
@@brianlawrence8401 your a clueless clown, imagine going onto a football youtube page and commenting about someone being an Arab. what a roaster you are!
@@unchainedmentally2147 You're totally correct mate, Scottish football is in freefall with clubs like Dundee FC involved. Some of the lower league clubs with much less resources have excellent playing surfaces that put the likes of Dundee FC to shame, that American bloke is pulling the wool over his own fans eyes. When the time comes for him to bolt, Dundee will still be playing on that tottie field.
THIS is why they forgot to realize the pitch when they stole the top of the table from Queen's Park on last year's Matchday 36. QP is better than this. They have Lesser Hampden for other minor minnows and the Greater Hampden for the likes of Celtic and Rangers.
First and foremost the game could have been delayed until 3pm.
The previous game against Rangers was delayed this season firstly due to Rangers team bus being stuck near St Andrews then the fire alarms being set off by pyrotechnics in the Bob Shsnkly stand..
That game didn't finish until almost 11pm, so to have a go at Dundee FC on Sunday seems a wee bit unfair given the circumstances of the first match this season which finished well after the scheduled time.
Great to see English fans enjoying Scottish football, makes me happy for both nations. 🎉
As a Rangers fan I’m not too unhappy with the game being called off. It’s not great to see the other team on top for the break, but our players are knackered and looked leggy and flat against Benfica. Another match on a heavy pitch just 3 days later could have resulted in the wrong result and included more unneeded injuries. An extra few days recovery for those on international duty and a full couple of weeks for the club only players will be very welcome.
Pity you hadn’t made it down to the Whitburn game, a lot of the ground hoppers were there. Hopefully you do a video on them sometime.
Good work on getting content for this video. Any idea if the new ground will be grass ? Bit worried owner stated wanted access 365 days a year. Suggests artificial to me 😢
Scotland gets so much rain, this cannot be blamed on Dundee. If we want geass oitches, we need to accept this will happen. Clubs dont have cash to spend on all sorts of underground drainage etc
They don't need a new stadium. Fair if they showed up every weekend but the fans really let them down. The main issue with dens is the fact they resurfaced and done it on a cheap. It had one of the best playing surfaces in Scotland. Totally ruined it very silly decision. The new stadium no matter how much dundee fans and the club try to convince sfa and public etc that stadium will never be built purely cause the location. Massive congrats on completing all the clubs and giving scottish football the attention it needs from a new view. It's superb seeing you being able to be that up and close to pitches early and speak to chairman's etc it's brillant.
Don't agree on Dens Park being moved. I stayed in Dundee for a few years and the sight of the two parks next to each other is something you can't believe until you see it. Knock it down and rebuild on same spot? Don't know if that's possible but would be nice to keep the 2 parks next to each other.
theres plenty of space at the bottom of the hill to build extra facilities and the south stand should be modernised and extended with new seats/safe standing and a new roof
Aye let nostalgia get in the way of games actually going ahead 👍🏻
It’s a coup, the sooner it’s turned to dust, the better.
@indigo8021 nothing to do with nostalgia. It's the mare view of these 2 big football pitches side by side.
I’d imagine some of the funding for the new stadium would be from the sale of the current site being kind of central.
Sam, love the videos! That said, sometimes you interrupt your interviewees instead of letting their answers flow.
I was interested in hearing the full response to your question at 2:23 but you cut it off to ask another!
@sheep1996 you are spot on. Sam's videos are great but could be more Interesting if he didn't butt in wi next question cos of undoubted enthusiasm! 😅
Seaside trip next Saturday? Lossiemouth v Deveronvale 😊
Getting 12 minutes is not an easy feet. Yet you made look like so. Good on you Sam! And onwards Dundee FC!
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id like to see you cover the highland league, teams like buckie thistle. keith ect
I didn't know Cary Grant designed football stadiums ? 🧐🧐🧐
@stevenlawton5319 😂😂 Oh dear
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fantastinc interview been to dens 4 times wiht inverness never seen them win
Fair play to the ref speaking to you 👏
The main stand is over 100 years old and designed by Archibald Leith and is shaped like that because it follows the line of the streets outside rather than the pitch.
"Leitch" is how you spell the great man's name.🙄
4 games this season called off due to the farmers field state of this park, the hierarchy of Scottish football quite happy keeping the embarrassment going without punishment
Well done on you getting access to the chairman and referee.
I have to say, it's impressive you get content for a video on a match postponement. Sky sports switched their channels over to sky sports news. Yet here you are interviewing club owners and the referee. Please keep up the content.
Dundee are a wonderful old Scottish club. I think one of the great headers of the ball Alan gilzean played pre Spurs for Dundee. A new ground should have a minimum capacity of twenty five k to compete for trophies
It is just my opinion that the pitch has never been the same since the sprinkler system was installed.
Absolutely love your content. My favourite football vlogger.
Thank you!!!
Safe trip home😅
Let’s hope Nairn County get the match on for you in April 😮
Next weekend is non league day sam
Where will you be going i wonder:)
Fair play to the referee, coming out an explaining his decision
2:08 Did they buy that sand from the stadium up the road? 😂😂😂
Dundee’s 4th home postponement this season. Dundee utd, who’s stadium is on the same street have 0 postponed games, welcome to the spfl folks!
Shame the game was cancelled but one of the best vids owner ref fans interviews excellent
A great video ❤
would you be able to come to the clash fraserburgh (h) vs brechin on the 6ty of april? Both ultras will be tgere
In 1927, Motherwell of Scotland won the Copa Del Rey in Spain. The 100 year anniversary is coming up. Will there be a rematch between Motherwell and Real Madrid?
I admire your stamina.Good man.
It's their 4th home game postponed due to the condition of the pitch this season.As everyone can see, that is not just surface water and a waterlogged pitch.The grass doesn't suddenly die with a few hours rain - it's a coo field and they musta known before daylight today that the game was in doubt.Dundee FC must be held accountable - the only professional game in the whole of the UK called off.That is outrageous and nothing short of embarrassing
Dry your eyes ffs. There was staff working on it from 5am. I’m sure they must have thought there was a chance.
So the coo field of a pitch should just be accepted? 4 times in 1 sesson(so far) 🙈
@Superman-nn4nw If they were in at 5am they must have known there was a problem on Friday. Knowing it's record for postponements it should have been checked by the sfa.
Staying at the invercarse again. Missus works there ;)
Good vlog onece again
Theres plans for the new stadium are superb theres some other clubs out there who should follow suit.
The small stand gets used Sam. It’s the place of the hardcore supporters Stand named the Derry
It’s not a stand, it’s a covered enclosure dating back to 1962.
Dens Park has been the home of Dundee F.C. since 1899.
You should go to the glentoran vs linfield irsh cup semi final has everthing to be a good game on the 29th of March
Coudnt they have played it 50m down the road at Tannadice?
Nice Glasgow accent on that Rangers fan at 03:30......
He’s a good ref!
You should tour Lille stadium
If a football club can't or won't bring there stadium or at the very least playing surface up to a professional standard then that club should not be anywhere near professional football
Kids play on concrete with makeshift goals. Thankfully nobody stops them because it is unsafe. A crappy pitch is crappy for both teams, let them play.
That is an accident waiting to happen playing on that pitch & why should rangers risk serious injuries just because Dundee are penny pinching get real
Grown men playing football on a watery pitch is hardly dangerous. I would say there are thousands of sports which are more dangerous than this. Tell the ski jumpers they cant jump because it is too dangerous. The risk on a muddy pitch is the same for both teams. They are paid enough, so, get on with it. BTW my job involves climbing wind turbines. @@janice506
Says the woman whose team's entitled supporters could have caused loss of life with another Bradford type inferno with their OTT pyros beside wooden stand at Dens!
4rg time this season this has happened, dock them points next time.
Can you come to cove rangers v Hamilton next Saturday please
“Go top as it should be”
Speaking like your club hasn’t been second for the best part of the last twenty years
(Old rangers, new rangers all the same, second best)
Wait…… so Rangers have existed BEFORE 2012??
Thanks for clearing that up. Takes a lot of guts for a Shellik man to admit the truth 👏🏻
@indigo8021 they aren't very smart 😂
@@indigo8021 you said it not me 😂, the club that was rangers and the club that is rangers.. doesn’t make a difference. Both been second best to Celtic the majority of the last two decades. You’ve had more managers in 3 season than trophies…
And yet your clubs is still not the most successful in the country
Oh oh someone’s countings not so good lolllll
The city council don't give a shit,the same at Aberdeen
Aww you missed your favourite team playing what a shame
Kelty were playing yesterday mate 😉
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@FootvyAdventures my arse your a wee orange bastard
@@FootyAdventures get in touch and we will organise hospitality and a KHFC shirt for you from your favourite team 🇱🇻🇱🇻🇱🇻
Now for the rest of the scottish football pyramid we'll done mate in completing the 42
You left Montrose FC till last 😢 😂👍
Just in case anyone else didn’t catch what was said by other posters. Apparently it’s the 4th (FOURTH) time games have been postponed at DENS PARK this season. 😂 😂 Only the current buns make an OTP fuss about it.
🚨Bigot alert🚨
Actually the full league is sick of Dundee ! It’s not funny for fans who made the journey up north ! You’re deflecting again . Don’t try & blame rangers fans for Dundee misgivings.
@janice506 it's even less funny for far travelled Dees fans.
Especially when Dons game cancelled an hour before kick off after we had to be up at 4am to make the journey!
Most of the clubs haven't got a pot to piss in, yet they all seem to be wanting to build new stadiums.
Not just rain... Scottish rain!! Which you know is some of the Worlds worst weather for sure! 😂
Teams with pitches that are unfit for purpose should be relegated and refused entry to the spfl
Great efforts Sam to get pretty decent video of content out of effectively nothing when you could have just scrapped it with the game being cancelled. And again congrats with completing the 42 mate
at least no teen girls felt up in the rangers end this time, there is always a bright side
LMAOOOO coming from a fan of a club who's got dozen upon dozens of active court cases for child abuse and promised to pay its vicTIMS but havent done so . Paedossss
Listen to this muppet stealing patter 😂 we all know what club touches up little kids in Scotland your da does the huddle with all the wee boys
The mighty Whitburn 👌👌
They should have asked they could have used tannadice
We shall not be moved 💚🤍🧡💪💪💪💪💪
lmaooooo state of this comment cause of a postponed game LOOOOOOOOL also ''scottish lad'' why you posting irish colours. Sums you lot up . Freak.
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Clutching 🤦
5:23 My reaction: FKING....BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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New stadium?
So capacity 6000?
That's how fkd scottish football is.
Dundee don't need a new home; they need to spend money maintaining their pitch now. This is the fourth game postponed there this season and is nowhere near good enough for a club in the top flight. They're creating a problem to promote this new stadium as the saviour and will blame everyone else if it gets thrown out. Even if it doesn't it's years away and in the meantime they still have to play on that pitch. Get it sorted. Diddy club.
A diddy club that fans saved their team twice despite todays visitors failing to do so.
@@B190 Going into administration twice is no badge of honour.
It's not a diddy club but a diddy owner who doesn't understand economics of Scottish fitba or the tardiness of our Council planners!
Nelms is penny wise, pound foolish not to have spent enough on pitch drainage!
@@eileannach4350 To be fair though they have had a succession of diddy owners. Shite attracts shite.
Abandoned? It didn't start...
Off to Dundee to see your favourites Glasgow Rangers again?
Scotland’s shame.
Did they hound a player out their club?
Can't believe you were in Dundee and I missed you 🥲
It wasn't abandoned... It had nothing to do with the weather it's the park absolute tip🤬
Don lied he worry’s about the penalty spot not the players conditions
Think we all know rain wasn’t the reason
It just highlights the state of Scottish football. For a Premiership club that’s an absolute embarrassment.
I’m not even on about the “top five” leagues either! Compare Scottish football to the Dutch Eredivise or the Danish SuperLiga. All the stadiums are modern and state of the art, the pitches are all immaculate and the player trading models are on a totally different level to what we see in Scotland.
What about Italy. The paisano's stadiums are in a worse state ma brutha.
Dundee do you deserve to be, in this League