The only Sonic costume I believe is the best is the black one. The others feel generic tones of blue and purple with different shoes and... Whatever he has on his gloves (this last part was corrected, they are cuffs)
We think the reason why characters like Sonic and Pac-Man get lame alt is because of the company who owns them. They probably don't want their mascots to change too much, to keep they recognizable. Especially Sega, who is known for being strict with Sonic at times.
Give Pac-Man different colored gloves/boots at least with different shades of yellow for the body. It would be hard to mistake him for anyone other than Pac-Man. Giving him the Sonic treatment would've been better than the dumb arm/leg bands. As a Pac-Man main, I think he has the worst alts in the game. Oven mitts alt is cute though at least.
@eon8271 But that's the difference, fan games don't represent the official product, so SEGA isn't picky on that. Just look at IDW Sonic comics that IS an Official product, while the stories are much better than some of the games before Frontiers, the writers are given strict guidelines which lead to some characterization remaining slandered such as Shadow.
@@braveneon8271 That’s not the same, though since Sega has a say in these things. With fan games, fans do whatever the fuck they want. Sega of Japan has been very strict about these said fan games that fans say are so untouchable by Sega
Sega requires that Sonic is ALWAYS represented in some shade of blue, no matter what. Even the "black" alt is just a really navy blue. It's a shame, but not really the fault of the devs, just what they had to work with.
But at the time, KH would be less likely to happen. Even if Disney allowed it, Nomura might have been iffy on it. Plus it would have spoiled Sora’s future reveal (though potentially adding them after the reveal is fine, but the former statement is still an obstacle)
@@bobthelonghairedboi5425 I feel like that would’ve had to delete one of their costumes, which would’ve led to at least one person being annoyed. That person is not me, btw
Barely any of the Pokemon use their shiny colors. It doesn't make Lucario's situation any better, just stating he's not the only offender on that front.
Imagine the timeline where Sonic gets a yellow skin. Maybe Chris Chan wouldn’t have graped his mom cause he’d be so psyched to see Sonichu become canonical
Shocked to not see Lucario here because NONE of his costumes are Pokemon references, they're all original, even his entry in the SSB Wiki is EMPTY. Also, they should've at least given Cloud his costumes from Dissidia NT and they should've given Sephiroth more noticeable colors to his coat to reference Genesis, Rufus and the like.
Lmao I remember someone asking how flammable the Craft Yoshi alt is and one response was, "Flammable enough to burn him back to his Black alt". But other than that, Yarn Yoshi would've definitely been a better choice, it stands out more than the Craft one.
I think there's been some legal problems with who actually owns Mrs. Pacman. She's been getting cut out of lots of games recently like Pacman World Re-Pac.
Honestly I'd say Pac-Man has it worse than Sonic. Sonic is at least different shades of blue with completely different shoe colors. They didn't even try with Pac-Man, and it negates the primary function of alts, to tell players playing as the same character apart, because they change so little on Pac-Man that you can barely tell them apart on a 1v1 match, let alone 4 player.
@@orangeslash1667 1. I think that's pretty stupid. 2. Even if Pac-Man HAD to stay yellow, they could've given each alt different hats and accessories that stand out more. Like obviously there's the hat he wears in Pac-Land, but they also could've done Super Pac-Man, the headphones he wears in the Pac & Pal art, the knight armor from Pac 'n Roll, the spacesuit he wears in Pac-Attack, alts based on Pac-Jr. and Professor Pac, etc.
@@jackiexkh But it would look jarring when Pac-man when he turns into his arcade sprite. To make you feel better I'll make up what the colors could be inspired by. Purple reminds me of Sue from Pac-man mania. Black could be a reference to Toc-Man.
@@orangeslash1667 Also I don't think it would look jarring, and besides, they could just let him keep the hat when he transforms. Also how would black reference Toc-Man???
@@jackiexkh That's not an option, you have to keep designs simple when doing advanced animation like transforming. Pac-man creator Toru Iwatani said that simplicity is what made the arcade so fun. While Iwatani wasn't involved in Smash, I suspect that Namco took his advice very seriously??? Forget what I said about Toc-man, I forget that his design was changed in the remake. I thought he stayed the same. The black alt reminds me of the Steel ball power up from Pac-man World.
@@tadeopena8009 nah the green brown actually looks sick the blue and pink not so much I would prefer the opposite Blue and red outfit but I respect your opinion
Here is what the costumes suppose to reference. Purple is a reference to Nights. Cyan resembles classic, with the cuffs coming from Sonic Adventure. White is a reference to Silver, with the cuffs being a reference to the ark of the Cosmos from Sonic Free Riders. Yellow has Silver's yellow cuffs. Orange is a reference to the hand from Sonic 2. Green is a reference to the hand in the Knuckles edition of Sonic 2. Black is a reference to the Mirror fighter in Sonic the fighters.
@orangeslash1667 Cyan is the Crystal Ring, Sonic's upgrade from Sonic Adventure 1, and the Ark of the Cosmo's is from Sonic Riders Zero Gravity, Not Free Riders.
Sure the ff7 characters didn’t change in terms if color but they gave cloud his movie costume packed with references such as the bow aireth gave cloud before she died its rapped around his arm in one of the AC costumes and shirtless sephiroth is a reference to the final battle in ff7
also no Ganondorf? in Ultimate is a tad better because the OoT design allows for more colors, but his Twilight Princess version had almost no variety other than the face that you can barely see
Honestly, not even an Echo Fighter! Shadow *easily* could've had his own Moveset! Neutral Special - Chaos Spear(Chargeable) Up Special/Recovery - Chaos Control Down Special - Chaos Dash(Chargeable) (Chaos Powered Spin Dash) Side Special - Light Speed Attack Final Smash - Chaos Blast
@@spartandelta124 Chun-Li also would've been a better choice than Ken in my opinion since she'd *also* have her own Moveset instead of being an Echo Fighter. Plus, she's also considered a Mascot Character alongside Ryu & Ken in _Street Fighter._ Heck, most consider her and Ryu the main two Mascots! Also, her inclusion would've added another Female Fighter too. 🙂 Her Moveset could be: Neutral Special - Kikoken Up Special/Recovery - Tensho Kick Down Special - Spinning Bird Kick Side Special - Lightning Kick Final Smash 1 - Senretsu Kyaku Final Smash 2 - Kikosho
@@darkdremora4436 Shadow could be a tricky character to add without making him overpowered?? Remember the reason Sonic has a simple moveset, is to balance out the fact that he's the fastest character.
@@spartandelta124 Most of the Sword fighters are RPG characters. While RPG struggle to sell Well in the west, Japan loves RPG's. Since Nintendo is a Japanese company, it makes sense to take advantage of it.
It’s like giving Mario a second Red Costume with a swapped color overall and Shirt, but even that’s a bad comparison, cause at least that references something, PAC-MAN with Yellow Sleeves makes no sense.
Here’s an idea, every single character in smash bros gets a shirtless alt, even the women, and every character that doesn’t have a shirt, like donkey kong, duck hunt, every pokemon, and possibly mega man, they get a shirt alt
sonic's transformations being unique and interesting skin references: what they decided to base his alts off of: i mean... there's the purple chaos emerald... and uhhh... silver's gloves...? very iconic
At least Lucario has a few that are good. Kinda wish one of them would get replaced with the Red Lucario from Pokken or the Shiny Lucario. You know what would be cool. If Little Mac...err I mean Wire Frame Mac had the color pink around his body. A reference to the Fighting Wire Frames from Smash Bros Melee.
@nicksterdisneyandpixarclub Sega literally has seen the detrimental Sonadow on DeviantArt, and also, if you try to put "DeviantArt" as your name in The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog, it will get rejected and the character you play as will say "I don't think I could show my face around here again if I wrote that"
What I hate the most is a max of 8 colors so they have to replace some, they did that in smash 4 but still there were characters with alt costumes like wario and little mac that had more, but with smash ultimate they also deleted those and next games are supposed to give more content instead of removing it
Would you rather have 60 fighters and over 100 stages. Or let a fighter keep an old costume you and no one you know has ever actually selected in a real match
@@astra3766 it would have. Storage space, possible licensing fees, and needing to port them over and clean them up and check them. There's a lot of work. Even if it's the same engine, refining the code, increasing the speed, and tweaking models does add up when you have that many characters.
I heard that the final fantasy characters and some other IP's they weren't allowed to stray too far from the original character design so they had to use muted colors and clothes that makes sense in world
That's odd because you have games like Dissidia NT which does have more unique alternate colors despite it being made by another company. It's also odd because in Cloud's case he could've had SOLDIER colors since he is wearing a SOLDIER outfit, so it wouldn't be that far off from the original.
@@DarkOverlord96 Sephiroth does have some references. White could be a reference to Rufus Shinra. Green is a reference to the giant Snake in FF7. Red is a reference to Genesis Rhapsodo. Blue resembles the 3rd class soldier. Purple resembels the 1st class soldier.
@@DarkOverlord96I kinda wish you could choose the Luma color at the start of the match tho so everyone could have their favorite color Luma on throughout the whole match.
@@jackflynn412 doesn't really work, unless you're good at keeping your Luma safe, it's gonna die within less a minute and respawn in a random colour not too long after.
Ngl and I know this is an unpopular opinion, I KINDA disagree with some of the alt criticisms. I get it but to me, Sonic IS the Blue Blur despite missed opportunites for character references so different colors feels kinda unneeded as well as Cloud and Sephiroth being colorful despite their original game doesn't really look right but it's all opinion. Idk I'm one of those people who appreciates the smaller details and everything else as well as respect the mindset Sakurai was going for though Crafty Yoshi is the worst of them all.
@@sometf2player752 Probably. Might be a challenge to go that extra mile but it's highly appreciated especially if they could pull off some deep cuts like the SOAP shoes. Or just give him other people's shoes as well.
@@sometf2player752 YES! Finally someone else thinks so! Here are my ideas: SA2 Shoes (if those aren't enough then the rest of his upgrades from SA2) SA1 upgrades (Including potentially his sunglasses from his ending render from SA1) 06 Upgrades with Green Gem Shoes (Meant to fulfill the green alt) Riders Outfit (My personal favorite look for Sonic) No Place Shoes and Gloves (From Sonic Prime, meant to fulfill the yellow/black alt) Favorite Clothes (From the OVA, meant to fulfill the pink/purple alt) Fake Metal (From Sonic Heroes, nothing too special, just a fun alt, would also change sound effects and remove voicelines)
@@DarkOverlord96 I still think my point applies. Why does Sora have some pretty good alternate costumes, but Sephiroth and Cloud have very dark versions of colors?
@IronThomasthePokemonfan37 Well, again, I imagine Disney wasn't as stingy with Sora, especially since him having all his costumes from all those games is easy advertisement, but also because he was the last DLC fighter so they wanted to make sure he got the best deal out of all of them.
@@IronThomasthePokemonfan37 Sephiroth does have some references. White could be a reference to Rufus Shinra. Green is a reference to the giant Snake in FF7. Red is a reference to Genesis Rhapsodo. Blue resembles the 3rd class soldier. Purple resembels the 1st class soldier.
Its so sad that pacman doesnt get different color variations. Especially when pacman battle royale exists where he has a red, pink and blue alt in that alone. I could make a whole fresh set of 8 alts with references to pacman and itll be better than what we got.
What's really strange is actually back in brawl Sonic's green shoes actually came with his fur being a shade of green as well and now it's just blue with green shoes
I feel like they could’ve done Sonic with the soap shoes, darker fur and more yellowish skin, to match his SA2 color palette, along with Riders Sonic and Racesuit Sonic from SA2 and Sonic’s pre-dark transformation with Dark Sonic as his Final Smash
Yea they could've had: Red for Knuckles/Eggman Orange for Tails Green for Jet/Vector White for Silver Black for Shadow Pink for Amy Grey for Storm Yellow for Super Sonic Purple for Blaze Tan for Tikal/Cream
what costumes Sonic could get: (keeping it Game-only & excluding Crossovers) 1- default 2- Racing Suit (Adventure 2 Battle/Rivals 2) 3- Maestro Sonic (Rivals/Live Orchestra) 4- Captain (Murder of Sonic) 5- Sonic Simulator (Sonic Colors) 6- Classic Shadow onesie (Superstars) 7- DarkSpine Sonic (Secret Rings) 8- Excalibur (Black Knight) 9- Glow in the Dark (Boom: Rise of Lyric) 10- Lunar Year (Sonic Dash) 11- Cheetah (Rivals 2) 12- Baseball uniform (Forces mobile) 13- Pirate (Sonic Dash) (easter Egg, give the Gem Shoes from Sonic 06 to DarkSpine) and if we count Crossovers: 1- Rathalos Set (Frontiers x Monster Hunter) 2- Default Set (Monster Hunter Rise) 3- Link's Tunic (Sonic Lost World x Legend of Zelda) 4- HUmar racing outfit (Adventure 2 x PSO2) 5- LEGO Sonic (LEGO Dimensions/Sonic SuperStars) and if we go Non game: 1- Movie Sonic 2- Inugami Korone (Frontiers x Hololive) 3- 90's clothes (Sonic OVA) 4- any of the Shoes he gets in Sonic Prime
FUN FACT! in one of first ever smash bros games, Sonic ACTUALLY had pallettes of his friends, infact, he had a Shadow skin that unlike others changed his shoe texture, while others were just changing shoe and furry collour.
The Pokémon not having their shinies is a crime
It’s not a crime, it’s just stupid and nonsense. I mean it like a huge missed opportunity without any plausible reason
Only ones that have their shiny is mewtwo,squirtle and ivysuar I believe
True
Incineroar has one that looks similar to his shiny iirc
@WilburDoesStuff Not even. None of them do!
Sonic the Hedgehog 50 shades of blue
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s6x?
@@suckerhatbruh
@@bloonyTheOriginal no don't get the wrong idea, i was joking about 50 shades of grey being about 6
@@suckerhat yes but Why Say It like S6X just spin the 6 around and it looks like an E
The only Sonic costume I believe is the best is the black one. The others feel generic tones of blue and purple with different shoes and... Whatever he has on his gloves (this last part was corrected, they are cuffs)
Cuffs
True I use that skin alot
I also use the black one
The blue alt is the only one that has anything interesting going for it, and that's ONLY because the Cuffs are the crystal rings from Sonic Adventure.
@@Clay-Chap-Stuff My personal favourite aside from the black one is the first purple one (purple cuffs)
We think the reason why characters like Sonic and Pac-Man get lame alt is because of the company who owns them.
They probably don't want their mascots to change too much, to keep they recognizable. Especially Sega, who is known for being strict with Sonic at times.
Say that to sonic fan games
Give Pac-Man different colored gloves/boots at least with different shades of yellow for the body. It would be hard to mistake him for anyone other than Pac-Man. Giving him the Sonic treatment would've been better than the dumb arm/leg bands.
As a Pac-Man main, I think he has the worst alts in the game. Oven mitts alt is cute though at least.
@eon8271 But that's the difference, fan games don't represent the official product, so SEGA isn't picky on that. Just look at IDW Sonic comics that IS an Official product, while the stories are much better than some of the games before Frontiers, the writers are given strict guidelines which lead to some characterization remaining slandered such as Shadow.
Sonic can keep his black and silver colors, but his other colors need to go and reference his friends
@@braveneon8271 That’s not the same, though since Sega has a say in these things. With fan games, fans do whatever the fuck they want. Sega of Japan has been very strict about these said fan games that fans say are so untouchable by Sega
Sega requires that Sonic is ALWAYS represented in some shade of blue, no matter what. Even the "black" alt is just a really navy blue. It's a shame, but not really the fault of the devs, just what they had to work with.
Source?
In Brawl's beta he actually had different colors
Say that to the virtual Sonics in Colours' 2-player mode!
@@themightygallium9509Yeah I always assumed that Sonic was only in shades of blue because of fears that people with various OCs would sue Sega.
@@1Hol1Tiger I mean, at the very least they could give him a purple skin that references his Darkspine form...
Still think cloud and sephi shouldve gotten their kingdom hearts outfits
Thank god we have gamebanana for that
@@KAIsibs true, i still have to mod my switch at some point
But at the time, KH would be less likely to happen. Even if Disney allowed it, Nomura might have been iffy on it. Plus it would have spoiled Sora’s future reveal (though potentially adding them after the reveal is fine, but the former statement is still an obstacle)
@LingeringWont thats what i meant sora should've given cloud and sephi their kh outfits i wouldnt want to spoil the greatest smash reveal of all time
@@bobthelonghairedboi5425 I feel like that would’ve had to delete one of their costumes, which would’ve led to at least one person being annoyed.
That person is not me, btw
Donkey Kong’s white alt not having a blue tie is criminal
This!!
True. And why don't we get a Funky Kong alt? He deserves to be in more games than Mario Kart wii and 8DX, since he's a fan favorite.
Lucario deserves to be here, he's the only character to not have any kind of reference, not even his shiny form.
I honestly don't know why, like... they couldn't even give him colors referencing other Fighting Type Pokemons?
Barely any of the Pokemon use their shiny colors.
It doesn't make Lucario's situation any better, just stating he's not the only offender on that front.
I feel like lucario should have a red alt to reference scizor since there both steel type pokemon
@@thevalkyriemercenary9463Or Machamp, Blaziken, Falinks, literally ANY Fighting and/or Steel type
Isn’t there a yellow lucario alt?
They made all of Sonic's alts blue so nobody would think their OC was in the game 😅
Sounds reasonable lol
Ken Penders...
Sonic ocs are goofy asf anyways let the blue man get his colors going
Imagine the timeline where Sonic gets a yellow skin. Maybe Chris Chan wouldn’t have graped his mom cause he’d be so psyched to see Sonichu become canonical
Then again we have the colors simulator with all the different sonic colors
Shocked to not see Lucario here because NONE of his costumes are Pokemon references, they're all original, even his entry in the SSB Wiki is EMPTY.
Also, they should've at least given Cloud his costumes from Dissidia NT and they should've given Sephiroth more noticeable colors to his coat to reference Genesis, Rufus and the like.
Not exactly because he does at least have 1 Pokemon reference it its pre-evolution
@@courage1363 5 Pokémon references, actually - Mars of Team Galactic, Jupiter of Team Galactic, the Galactic Grunts, Anime Lucario, and Riolu.
Rosalina over lucario is kinda crazy
Yeah, Lucario has really lazy costumes
@@mariajimenafigueroa233 "costumes" it's basically just basic recolors that don't even reference his shiny form
@@crybabybf1990 They could've referenced other fighting-types or even his shiny and double down on the Riolu palette, but nah.
@@crybabybf1990shiny is absent probably due to licensing
Deeper blue one is neat..-
"Sonic's costumes are just different shades of blue!"
*Proceeds so show a black sonic, not a blue one*
shadow the edgehog is NOT black sonic
That's navy blue
Black is a really really shaded blue tbf
I think the worst costume in the game by far has to go to Craft Yoshi, I would of prefered if they did Yarn Yoshi or brought back Black Yoshi instead
Worse? They literally could stop doing the 8 customes per fighter bs and that could include Black and Yarn Yoshi
@@rmissing3361yeah in Sm4sh Little Mac had 16 costumes. I hope they do something like that for the next Smash game on at least one character.
For Real, i love yoshi wooly wordl
Lmao I remember someone asking how flammable the Craft Yoshi alt is and one response was, "Flammable enough to burn him back to his Black alt". But other than that, Yarn Yoshi would've definitely been a better choice, it stands out more than the Craft one.
@@jackflynn41216?how?
Ms. Pac-Man could have easily been implemented as some of Pac-Man's alternate costumes, similar to how Alph is some of Olimar's alts.
I think there's been some legal problems with who actually owns Mrs. Pacman. She's been getting cut out of lots of games recently like Pacman World Re-Pac.
We could’ve had a couple Mrs. Game & Watch skins for Mr. Game & Watch.
Well, you can blame the guys who make those terrible plug and play consoles for that.
No, because she isn’t owned by Namco
@@ShockwaveFPSStudios No?? Because that is literally not a thing
Sonic: Clearly has a black, a gray and a grayish purple alt
Smash community: I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that
PAC-MAN in Smash: 🟡🟡🟡🟡🟡🟡🟡🟡
PAC-MAN in NBA Merch: 🟡🔴🔵🟢🟠⚪⚫🟣
??? (Yes, the latter is a real thing)
I can just imagine pacman ballin
@fearward11 that thought will never leave my head now
Of course they're going to give more if it's paid
@@fearward11 there are quite a few official arts of him balling
Real shame they won't allow Pac Man to be multi colored
why does Dark blue Sonic look like 2017x😭😭
Honestly I'd say Pac-Man has it worse than Sonic. Sonic is at least different shades of blue with completely different shoe colors. They didn't even try with Pac-Man, and it negates the primary function of alts, to tell players playing as the same character apart, because they change so little on Pac-Man that you can barely tell them apart on a 1v1 match, let alone 4 player.
It's because the ghosts are Pac-man's Smash attacks with different colors. Namco probably didn't want Pac-man to be the same color as the ghosts???
@@orangeslash1667 1. I think that's pretty stupid.
2. Even if Pac-Man HAD to stay yellow, they could've given each alt different hats and accessories that stand out more. Like obviously there's the hat he wears in Pac-Land, but they also could've done Super Pac-Man, the headphones he wears in the Pac & Pal art, the knight armor from Pac 'n Roll, the spacesuit he wears in Pac-Attack, alts based on Pac-Jr. and Professor Pac, etc.
@@jackiexkh But it would look jarring when Pac-man when he turns into his arcade sprite.
To make you feel better I'll make up what the colors could be inspired by.
Purple reminds me of Sue from Pac-man mania.
Black could be a reference to Toc-Man.
@@orangeslash1667 Also I don't think it would look jarring, and besides, they could just let him keep the hat when he transforms.
Also how would black reference Toc-Man???
@@jackiexkh That's not an option, you have to keep designs simple when doing advanced animation like transforming. Pac-man creator Toru Iwatani said that simplicity is what made the arcade so fun. While Iwatani wasn't involved in Smash, I suspect that Namco took his advice very seriously???
Forget what I said about Toc-man, I forget that his design was changed in the remake. I thought he stayed the same.
The black alt reminds me of the Steel ball power up from Pac-man World.
When you realize they removed Fire Mario but kept that ugly green Mario skin in Smash Ultimate. 😢
Hey that green outfit is cool they should've removed the Blue and pink
@@kataveonevans6224nah green with ground is worst then the blue and pink one
@@tadeopena8009 nah the green brown actually looks sick the blue and pink not so much I would prefer the opposite Blue and red outfit but I respect your opinion
Just remove all of them at that point.
They could replace the Waluigi one, Mario is not related in any way with him
Sonic has to be the most underutilized character in Smash
Here is what the costumes suppose to reference.
Purple is a reference to Nights.
Cyan resembles classic, with the cuffs coming from Sonic Adventure.
White is a reference to Silver, with the cuffs being a reference to the ark of the Cosmos from Sonic Free Riders.
Yellow has Silver's yellow cuffs.
Orange is a reference to the hand from Sonic 2.
Green is a reference to the hand in the Knuckles edition of Sonic 2.
Black is a reference to the Mirror fighter in Sonic the fighters.
sega requires that sonic must always be depicted as at least a little blue
Bro got a little too much action being a saving grace in Subspace 💀
@orangeslash1667 Cyan is the Crystal Ring, Sonic's upgrade from Sonic Adventure 1, and the Ark of the Cosmo's is from Sonic Riders Zero Gravity, Not Free Riders.
@@kingmo8789 I forgot that only one game, had (Free) in the title.
Sure the ff7 characters didn’t change in terms if color but they gave cloud his movie costume packed with references such as the bow aireth gave cloud before she died its rapped around his arm in one of the AC costumes and shirtless sephiroth is a reference to the final battle in ff7
Isn’t cloud final smash different or is it just me
@@Just.a.watcher..It is.
My problem is Square being hellbent on still referencing the shitshow that is Advent Children. They cant seem to let it go
Advent children IS good wtf are you yapping about and the costume are perfect @@CitrusRev
She gave him a bow before she died? Was that in Advent Children?
also no Ganondorf? in Ultimate is a tad better because the OoT design allows for more colors, but his Twilight Princess version had almost no variety other than the face that you can barely see
With Sora's arrival there could be an update that changed 1 or 2 of Cloud and Sephiroth costumes for your costumes from KH1
Idk if Nomura would allow it, considering they needed to request him for Sora to be in (cause Disney was fully on board with Sora)
Shadow the Hedgehog should have been an echo fighter for Sonic
Honestly, not even an Echo Fighter! Shadow *easily* could've had his own Moveset!
Neutral Special - Chaos Spear(Chargeable)
Up Special/Recovery - Chaos Control
Down Special - Chaos Dash(Chargeable)
(Chaos Powered Spin Dash)
Side Special - Light Speed Attack
Final Smash - Chaos Blast
@@darkdremora4436 But alas, they were to busy adding sword fighters
@@spartandelta124 Chun-Li also would've been a better choice than Ken in my opinion since she'd *also* have her own Moveset instead of being an Echo Fighter.
Plus, she's also considered a Mascot Character alongside Ryu & Ken in _Street Fighter._ Heck, most consider her and Ryu the main two Mascots! Also, her inclusion would've added another Female Fighter too. 🙂
Her Moveset could be:
Neutral Special - Kikoken
Up Special/Recovery - Tensho Kick
Down Special - Spinning Bird Kick
Side Special - Lightning Kick
Final Smash 1 - Senretsu Kyaku
Final Smash 2 - Kikosho
@@darkdremora4436 Shadow could be a tricky character to add without making him overpowered?? Remember the reason Sonic has a simple moveset, is to balance out the fact that he's the fastest character.
@@spartandelta124 Most of the Sword fighters are RPG characters. While RPG struggle to sell Well in the west, Japan loves RPG's. Since Nintendo is a Japanese company, it makes sense to take advantage of it.
Fun fact: the blue rings on sonics alt is a reference to where sonic got locked in Eggmans death egg in Sonic Forces
They put yellow on pack man, bruh 💀
It’s like giving Mario a second Red Costume with a swapped color overall and Shirt, but even that’s a bad comparison, cause at least that references something, PAC-MAN with Yellow Sleeves makes no sense.
Here’s an idea, every single character in smash bros gets a shirtless alt, even the women, and every character that doesn’t have a shirt, like donkey kong, duck hunt, every pokemon, and possibly mega man, they get a shirt alt
The women get a bikini alt or something
Mega Man's shirtless alt is just exposed circuitry
@@Tr0lliPopnope not enough shirtless alt
Nah. If I could watch a sweaty shirtless fight between Mario and Luigi, I'd be too horny the whole match to concentrate.
Shirtless Rob
It's funny, this is the first time I've seen Sonic in anyone's worst something list
At least Pac-Man's costumes in alt had some nods to power-ups from his games. He somehow got worse in Ultimate.
All Of The Shoe Colors Are A Reference To Some Of Sonic's Friends
sonic's transformations being unique and interesting skin references:
what they decided to base his alts off of:
i mean... there's the purple chaos emerald... and uhhh... silver's gloves...?
very iconic
At least Lucario has a few that are good. Kinda wish one of them would get replaced with the Red Lucario from Pokken or the Shiny Lucario. You know what would be cool. If Little Mac...err I mean Wire Frame Mac had the color pink around his body. A reference to the Fighting Wire Frames from Smash Bros Melee.
Red Lucario from Pokken sounds dope ngl, shiny is absent probably due to licensing
I think the reason why Sonic's fur color barely changes is likely due to copyright problems with Sega.
Or possibly DeviantArt
@@vexslade I doubt DeviantArt has something to do with it.
@@nicksterdisneyandpixarclub Idk about that...
@@vexslade 🤨
@nicksterdisneyandpixarclub Sega literally has seen the detrimental Sonadow on DeviantArt, and also, if you try to put "DeviantArt" as your name in The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog, it will get rejected and the character you play as will say "I don't think I could show my face around here again if I wrote that"
I’m just glad that Sephiroth and Cloud have an alt style
Cloud and Seph’s are at least all references
It would've been really cool if they gave Cloud his Kingdom Hearts 1 outfit with the Vincent Valentine Scarf.
What I hate the most is a max of 8 colors so they have to replace some, they did that in smash 4 but still there were characters with alt costumes like wario and little mac that had more, but with smash ultimate they also deleted those and next games are supposed to give more content instead of removing it
Would you rather have 60 fighters and over 100 stages. Or let a fighter keep an old costume you and no one you know has ever actually selected in a real match
?🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@velvetbutterfly
Are you actually trying to say that keeping 16 or so pre-existing alts would have affected the amount of characters or stages
@@astra3766 it would have. Storage space, possible licensing fees, and needing to port them over and clean them up and check them. There's a lot of work. Even if it's the same engine, refining the code, increasing the speed, and tweaking models does add up when you have that many characters.
I heard that the final fantasy characters and some other IP's they weren't allowed to stray too far from the original character design so they had to use muted colors and clothes that makes sense in world
That's odd because you have games like Dissidia NT which does have more unique alternate colors despite it being made by another company.
It's also odd because in Cloud's case he could've had SOLDIER colors since he is wearing a SOLDIER outfit, so it wouldn't be that far off from the original.
@@DarkOverlord96 Sephiroth does have some references.
White could be a reference to Rufus Shinra.
Green is a reference to the giant Snake in FF7.
Red is a reference to Genesis Rhapsodo.
Blue resembles the 3rd class soldier.
Purple resembels the 1st class soldier.
Cloud should've at least had some colors based on the other characters you have in the party.
“At least we get to see shirtless Sepiroth” 😂
bro really said "say, would you like to p l a y" with that 3rd sonic the hedgehog costume
Evil Aaron be like
I agree with all of these except Rosalina
Sonic’s alternate costumes are like: we are mistakes
I like how Jet the Hawk is just added to that image like that
bro is NOT part of the gang
Even though pac man has not good costumes I love playing as him in smash because it’s the first character I ever used and had so much fun with
Plaid Mitts and the Default are my usual costumes
The Luma not changing colors might be even worse then the laziness with Rosalina’s dresses
That's because Luma changes color during gameplay
Why would Luma change colors?
You already get different color ones every time you use Luma.
this comment and the Likes are the very definition of not paying attention
@@DarkOverlord96I kinda wish you could choose the Luma color at the start of the match tho so everyone could have their favorite color Luma on throughout the whole match.
@@jackflynn412 doesn't really work, unless you're good at keeping your Luma safe, it's gonna die within less a minute and respawn in a random colour not too long after.
buddy said at least give sonic costume references like every sonic costume isnt a reference, that had to be a joke😭
Black Sonic (or as I call him, Blackhog) is the only good Sonic alt. And I know people agree with me on that
Funny how he says that for Sonic, but shows the one reminiscent of Rouge, and theres another one reminiscent of Silver
Ngl and I know this is an unpopular opinion, I KINDA disagree with some of the alt criticisms. I get it but to me, Sonic IS the Blue Blur despite missed opportunites for character references so different colors feels kinda unneeded as well as Cloud and Sephiroth being colorful despite their original game doesn't really look right but it's all opinion. Idk I'm one of those people who appreciates the smaller details and everything else as well as respect the mindset Sakurai was going for though Crafty Yoshi is the worst of them all.
For sonic they probably could’ve gave him some of the shoes and accessories he wears in some of his games
@@sometf2player752 Probably. Might be a challenge to go that extra mile but it's highly appreciated especially if they could pull off some deep cuts like the SOAP shoes. Or just give him other people's shoes as well.
@@dnmstarsi wouldnt say the soap shoes is a deep cut considering that sonic team keeps having it show up in new games recently
@@sometf2player752 Not really from my point of view but you get what I mean.
@@sometf2player752 YES!
Finally someone else thinks so!
Here are my ideas:
SA2 Shoes (if those aren't enough then the rest of his upgrades from SA2)
SA1 upgrades (Including potentially his sunglasses from his ending render from SA1)
06 Upgrades with Green Gem Shoes (Meant to fulfill the green alt)
Riders Outfit (My personal favorite look for Sonic)
No Place Shoes and Gloves (From Sonic Prime, meant to fulfill the yellow/black alt)
Favorite Clothes (From the OVA, meant to fulfill the pink/purple alt)
Fake Metal (From Sonic Heroes, nothing too special, just a fun alt, would also change sound effects and remove voicelines)
I really love how it looked like pac mans color/avatar changed when he snapped
There was literally a youtube short before this about sonic's costume references
It can’t be anything related to Square Enix.
They gave Sora good ones.
Also, PAC-MAN Syndrome fits more, because at least Sonic changes hues slightly.
Well, technically Sora is more of a Disney character than a Square Enix character.
@@DarkOverlord96 I still think my point applies.
Why does Sora have some pretty good alternate costumes, but Sephiroth and Cloud have very dark versions of colors?
@IronThomasthePokemonfan37 Well, again, I imagine Disney wasn't as stingy with Sora, especially since him having all his costumes from all those games is easy advertisement, but also because he was the last DLC fighter so they wanted to make sure he got the best deal out of all of them.
@@IronThomasthePokemonfan37 Sephiroth does have some references.
White could be a reference to Rufus Shinra.
Green is a reference to the giant Snake in FF7.
Red is a reference to Genesis Rhapsodo.
Blue resembles the 3rd class soldier.
Purple resembels the 1st class soldier.
@@orangeslash1667 I mean that the Colors are so Dark.
Besides, that costumes is Silver, not White.
Shirtless Sepheroth: "I will never be too sexy for my shirts"
Shulk: "I was here FIRST pal!"
I remember when you made a video like this way back in October 2018, and I was very addicted to that video in a super-fun entertained way, lol.
Bro, sonics colors do represent his friends.
To be fair, one of Sonic's does reference Silver, even giving him the same cuffs.
Well, he has the silver and shadow references in his skins
Bro called out Sonic but left Lucario alone. Like bruh, all of Lucario is just you throwing different colored socks in the washer and the colors mix.
Being a sonic main, I will say that Emo Sonic is goated
I will not allow this slander of buff-pac-man
Look, I can't give you Sonic. At least they gave him some unique wrist accessories. Some characters don't even have that much
Sonic's costumes do reference his frineds
I always loved Cloud's brown one, he seems ready to farm. I also love that this short's thumbnail shows Black Sonic and says "being different is fine"
Sonic having a color representing silver would be sweet
the idea of sonic costumes being the other characters colors is amazing, red and black, red, yellow, pink, white and pink, purple so many more
Sonic with grey skin looks like sonic 2017X
Sonics are more callbacks to the powers he'd be able to get from his previous games
Dark grey sonic predicted Lord X.
It's a shame there is no sonic alt with the soap shoes.
the oven mitten for packman makes me sick, I like the yellow one cuz it makes hit arms look big
Its so sad that pacman doesnt get different color variations. Especially when pacman battle royale exists where he has a red, pink and blue alt in that alone. I could make a whole fresh set of 8 alts with references to pacman and itll be better than what we got.
You don't want a green Sonic. NO ONE WANTS A GREEN SONIC.
I think each of Sonic's costume's are a refrence to the Chaos emeralds while the black one is a refrence to dark sonic
*says Sonic is all blue*
Also him: *shows a black-colored alt.*
What's really strange is actually back in brawl Sonic's green shoes actually came with his fur being a shade of green as well and now it's just blue with green shoes
Anthony's favorite character, aka JC4U2, Pac-Man, as Cook-Man!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Can’t believe Sonic didn’t have color references to the rest of the cast of his games. Would’ve been an easy W.
The sonic costume actually references the games from over the years
Worst costume is completely subjective as fir example people dislike Dr Mario's Purple costume however i love using it
I'm a sonic main. I spend so much time in ball form there's no chance to even see his costume, but he definitely needed something.
The Jet PNG just slapped onto the rest of the cast's sick looking renders makes me fuckin cackle
I feel like they could’ve done Sonic with the soap shoes, darker fur and more yellowish skin, to match his SA2 color palette, along with Riders Sonic and Racesuit Sonic from SA2 and Sonic’s pre-dark transformation with Dark Sonic as his Final Smash
I mean with cloud a simple skin change MAKES IS FINAL SMASH SO MUCH COOLER but that might just be me odk
that image at the end had me cackling, just all of sonics friends and allies juxtaposed with very obviously photoshopped in jet png
Yea they could've had:
Red for Knuckles/Eggman
Orange for Tails
Green for Jet/Vector
White for Silver
Black for Shadow
Pink for Amy
Grey for Storm
Yellow for Super Sonic
Purple for Blaze
Tan for Tikal/Cream
Man, Sonic was shafted in Smash.
If they made Sonic another color, someone on Deviantart would complain they stole their OC.
Sonic: 8 shades of blue plus some decent references
Pac Man: 1 shade of yellow plus no references
I actually don't mind Sonic's alts
Sonic doesn’t have the worst costumes honestly.
Cloud having the Advent Children outfit as an alt costume is fire, though
Sephiroth killed meggys friend and I will always hold that to him
Well black sonic could be a reference to shadow the hedgehog, who knows🤷🏽
To be fair, Sonic’s wrist gauntlets are all references to other Sonic game items and characters
The thumbnail of black sonic with the text “different is fine” hits different
mario not havin the classic fire mario is wild
what costumes Sonic could get: (keeping it Game-only & excluding Crossovers)
1- default
2- Racing Suit (Adventure 2 Battle/Rivals 2)
3- Maestro Sonic (Rivals/Live Orchestra)
4- Captain (Murder of Sonic)
5- Sonic Simulator (Sonic Colors)
6- Classic Shadow onesie (Superstars)
7- DarkSpine Sonic (Secret Rings)
8- Excalibur (Black Knight)
9- Glow in the Dark (Boom: Rise of Lyric)
10- Lunar Year (Sonic Dash)
11- Cheetah (Rivals 2)
12- Baseball uniform (Forces mobile)
13- Pirate (Sonic Dash)
(easter Egg, give the Gem Shoes from Sonic 06 to DarkSpine)
and if we count Crossovers:
1- Rathalos Set (Frontiers x Monster Hunter)
2- Default Set (Monster Hunter Rise)
3- Link's Tunic (Sonic Lost World x Legend of Zelda)
4- HUmar racing outfit (Adventure 2 x PSO2)
5- LEGO Sonic (LEGO Dimensions/Sonic SuperStars)
and if we go Non game:
1- Movie Sonic
2- Inugami Korone (Frontiers x Hololive)
3- 90's clothes (Sonic OVA)
4- any of the Shoes he gets in Sonic Prime
FUN FACT!
in one of first ever smash bros games, Sonic ACTUALLY had pallettes of his friends, infact, he had a Shadow skin that unlike others changed his shoe texture, while others were just changing shoe and furry collour.
I’m actually surprised he didn’t talk about Villager’s alts… they are DISGUSTING! 🤮