You need to do more colabs !!!. Your high energy fits so well when you do more serious discussions with other more calm content creators. The vid you did on Ash channel was similarly good. Love It!!
Nice video guys! You guys are absolutely insane when it comes to Karnage the anarch though. First his Aura is the fastest arena speed aura in the game. Then his A3 is a 3 hitting attack with a combined 8.1 attack multiplier that also gets 8.1 per acc. It places unremovable block active skills & block passive skills, and transfers all of those debuffs to the rest of the enemy team when it kills the target (and each hit of the 3 hitting skill has a 50% chance to spread even if it doesn't). If by some miracle he doesn't kill the target the 3rd hit will also steal the targets turn meter. That is an absolutely S+ tier ability and that's not even discussing the rest of the crazy abilities on his kit which include minimum 50% chance to counter attack when an ally is hit, a crazy hard hitting AoE nuke which ignores shields, ally protection and block damage when hitting targets under 2 or more debuffs (which they will probably have if you open with his A3 in form 1) and another crazy hard AoE nuke that block revives if the targets have 3 or more debuffs. If you told me you thought he was the best mythical champion in the game I think you could make a solid argument for it. Rank 8 is just crazy!
I genuinely thought he was no contest the best champ in the game lol. That's why plarium time gated him to fit with likely a gear release or fusion to make him slightly less mental. He has the highest base atk in the game, a mental kit and a guaranteed 6 star soul. The guy is gonna DEFINE the meta lmao.
@@czechRaid Debuff spread does not trigger sheep. Things like taras and harima are extremely meta despite having higher chances to be sheeped on their fears, provokes, stuns, and decrease attacks than karnage will on his single target A3.
With Lazarius, did you know If he's in his second form and transforms back into his first form, the revive passive of this first form triggers right away before he starts his extra turn! Great vid, you two have awesome energy together
keep dissing frolni :) love him in high level live arena... Rarely gets banned because everyone sleeps on him. He really just needs one kill to get going with good gear, and mine is just as tanky as my siphi with 110k hp (which goes up quickly with kills), 4.6k defense, 325 crit damage, 240 speed (with speed and crit damage ramping quickly). Granted I don't have Georgid or Harima, but honestly, he usually ramps up quicker than Harima in live arena. Vs. Harima teams, he usually wins for me. Also, not relevant for endgame, but he's a 12-second NM campaign farmer and 20-second mino farmer.
I have a +1 Frolni who is fully awakened as well and I use him all over the place, but I almost prioritize his form 2. Great in Iron Twins, Ice Golem, and arena def. I’ve had a Georgid one shot himself trying to kill him. I have him with 110k hp, 5k def, 400 resist and 210 speed with the fully awakened smite buff. He can solo ice golem hard and iron twins for me basically lol.
I was literally lmao during ashes video when he was so hyped for siegfrund! I was just waiting for him to realize that he isnt even a real mythical that can change forms when you want him to 🤣🤣🤣 & ash definitely didn't disappoint with his reaction once he realized that he can't change forms except for a passive lmao
That's Siegfrunds biggest issue and Plarium should have easily forseen that. He's a decent nukers but his support form is actually really strong...the problem is because of his conditional metamorph he has to be built as a nuker leaving his support form squishy and mostly unable to be used.
For sure & and the majority of the time, you never even get access to his support form smh. Which I agree is really nice. It's just too bad you can't use it. Plarium really needs to fix this, and honestly, it would be as easy as switching his support form to his first form, & making him able to avoid having his nuke form locked out, & by getting rid of his inability to switch forms, basically making him a legendary. @@dukekessler6292
I love your budding Bromance with Ash! He is probably the only Cc that can match your energy and I look forward to your collabs in the future!!!!!!!!!!❤
Also, after ash's declaration at the beginning of the video about there only being one trash mythical. I was just waiting for aphidus & frolni to come up and see what he had to say about them 🤣
Drock man you are just a charismatic guy, I think you have good chemistry with all the content creators I have seen you with. Still waiting for the shini and drock collab where you go off on him for helicath and failtalus. Nice to see you are almost at 8k subs, so you can get access to the test server.
Been waiting for this collab since y'all mentioned it over on Ash's channel, haha. About a 7th of the way through but wanna say that I think the gap between the bottom "mythicals" and the actual mythicals is immense. I mean you have Krixia who can do remove debuffs, decrease cooldowns on your team and increase them on the other team.... then you have Siegfrund, who can sit around and do fuck all until your team is dead and then hopefully revive them (which won't happen in this anti revive meta) or you have the dwarf who's name is so forgettable that even though I just saw it, I've already forgotten it, and he, well, he does an ally protect. That's kind of it. I'm of the opinion though that the power creep for the older vs the newer mythicals is going to be like like a chasm of sadness that grows slowly and surely every patch. Yet, even after all that, I'd be pretty stoked to get a mythical out of the primals. (Until I see who it actually is and the hype dies almost immediately if it's the last few mythicals.)
everytime the word Polymorph comes up... it feels like a "Drock Smash!" moment... The madder Drock gets.... "Drock Bruce Banner... pelted by Gamma Rays..." : )
ahhh.. when you said "Shu-Zhen + Mikage"... yes... same happened to me... I couldnt get a turn.. and I had Taras, so, all they had left were Shu-Zhen and Mikage... I was caught in a loop i could not get out of... and its a very dangerous pair if running very fast... the 2 by themselves wore my team down, and they eventually won. Nutz combo.
I would think so. They all put up block damage buffs so I see no reason why not but you'd need to check the skill turn cooldown to make sure it syncs up before doing it. If you have a functioning 1 key clan boss team I wouldn't mess with it though. More work than it's worth to change that up. Hope that helps!
I heard about you when you did your colab with Ash and I guess say that I love what I have seen from you 2 together. Just joined the channel as well. Keep up the great work and I love your energy my friend!!
One of the most engaging raid collabs of all time, long video but lots of discussion all the way through 👌 Still we need drock x saph collab that's gonna be great 😎
But on Mezomel the buffs aren't only one turn, so you could still change forms and use an ability while they're still active, no? So what makes her worse than Turvold in that regard? (I don't have her I'm not butthurt she's low on the list or anything lol, just didn't really understand that point and BPD saying "that's a really good point" confused me.)
So the problem is you'd want her buffs to stay active the entire time in her secondary form in order to build her with less crit chance. Because they disappear quickly you aren't able to build her with only 70% crit chance and that caps the damage she can do. Ideally she could keep her buffs up the entire time in her second form to do massive damage.
I got him last week. He might be one of top damage dealer in PvP . another thing his damage in all his abilities is based on his Atk and Acc . that make him more unique.
Nice to see my man Drock with the big guys (not a big fan of Ash content but everyone talks great about him so it must be true). Probably never will get a mythical other than Mikage as a ftp haha, but i would love to get the lion and the barbarian for my account, for the stuff i run they would make the more sense. Wouldnt be too bummed about anyone except for siegfrund, I dont get how you can justify his metamorph, even ive defeated him with ease.
Thanks my man! And I'd say give Ash another chance. He's a great dude and I genuinely find his Raid content to be funny and informative. I hope you snag a good mythical soon!
Androc is by far the best current mythical not only does the enfeeble makes you take barely any damage but you can’t get debuffs when they week hit so basically he just makes bosses do nothing. Great collab tho
Pretty clear this video is mainly about arena. He's probably the best pve mythical, but really only place he's great is hydra. Which isn't an issue if Gharol makes all the heads be permadead.
Love the Vid guys but i think androc is the best PvE champ in the game by miles the AoE enfeeble beats every boss and a debuff extender means it has 100% up time also good in PvP once they go below 50% HP as it can't be cleansed so it's gg
As much as anyone can joke and meme. I do love how you are so strongly against polymorph and wanting it to change for the betterment of the game. I am so sick of it even only facing it every 5-7 battles. Loved the video you guys bring the greatest vibes together
Stating the obvious here, but some of the "more interesting kits" (ie, Mezomel), it's intentional down tune of damage (similar to Inithwe), because (again, for obvious reasons)... with that said... That DOES kind of ruin it, all around. Even a +4 Inithwe, fully awakened... not enough damage to get it done... and that keeps him out of meta (certainly has niche use, and certainly can do fine in G5 etc), but, for Top end (like yourself Drock), that "missing damage" is a deal breaker (even if the kit is otherwise deadly.. ie, "block revive). Point is.. it's on purpose, and i think Plarium could do better tuning to make more viable. Slight dmg boost needed, and more counters to that mechanic.
I agree. That lack of damage severely limits several champs. Fatalis is another one that should be awesome but is unusable due to lack of damage. Such a shame they won't effectively balance champs anymore.
Deberíamos exigir que plarium le haga rework a mezomel es frustrante ver que mi mejor set con 6500 de ataque y 320 de dañó crítico no sean capas de matar a un nuker de defensa ni se diga a un tanque como pueden llamar mítico a un personaje que se ve bien pero su daño es como de un épico??? Le añado que narses taras giorgi mejor dicho todos los mejores nuker la matan con el solo básico y eso que tiene 3 mil de defensa es frustrante lo mismo con mi fatalis 😢🥴 El único nuker que tengo en 4 años es wukon y fue gratis pero este le está quedando grande las altas arenas también 😢 estoy cansado de ver a todo el mundo con las dos parejas en un mismo equipo narses ankora marisca y taras no soy capaz ni de quitar medía vida
Awesome list and colab you 2 nailed it. Sadly I only have one mythical but gladly it's gharol love her for almost everything especially pvp. Keep up the great vids man. Cheers
Siegfrund was my first myth, really bummed out, he makes a good campaign farmer though. Recently got Arbais and oh boy she had a big impact on my account, she really carries my Iron Twin as well.
I pulled Galathir from the Cursed City free reward and yeah, I love him - his kit is absolutely wild. I was saving books for Mikage but I think they will actually go to Galathir.
Androcc is pretty good, i think his place is justified he smacks on his a2 and he does some ignore defence which Is strange. Before transformation pretty good for cb and hydra. And his mythical form, that enfeeble really makes hydra hits funny 😂😂
you guys love arena lady mikage is the most useful end game pve champion. S tier in the most important areas of the game hydra, clan boss, fire knight hard, and even arena
While i agree that he's not as top tier as others, I use Frolni a bunch on a tanky team as a hard counter to Wu Kong. He racks up those four kills easy, and if i need survivability along with dropping my enemies acc his amored form kicks in. He's strong and can be helpful depending on the situation.
Two of my favourite loudheads in one video😂. Cant wait for the polymorph rant video on ash channel🎉🎉🎉🎉. I just watch the whole god damn video...dnt realise it was that long
Karmage will apparently be the best nuker in the game. I am not completely sure what abillity but saph said that he has 8. something multiplier... So he should just annihilate everything.
Garol doesn't transform on auto. I set Metamorphosis as her opening move and she does the ally protection. Infact, I can't get her to transform at all on auto. I don't even use her because of that. If she can transform on auto, I can't figure out how to make her do it. I can get all my other champs to do what I need them to do on auto. Garol is a vault champ for me for that reason alone.
It is definitely frustrating that she doesn't change firms automatically. It's a shame because there's pretty much zero reason to use her first form. I will say she hits incredibly hard in Hydra though. Still worth it for me to use her there.
Mezomel It needs an urgent improvement since its only use is arenas and it is not even competitive there to be a mythical, just as they gave Nefeling a rework, she deserves it too
Make polymorph have a chance of being reflected back, yes I know unlikely but would make it less desirable to have the chance of ones own champs being sheeped
Mezomel is carrying me really well in gold 5 to be honest. She out damage dmy Baron easily, plus block reviving guys like wukong through stoneskin is also huge. I would love to have her also ignoring shields in that a2 though.... Also, her self buff is 3 turns.... So you can a2, transform and do aoe a2 whilst still being under the buffs.
Pero me la dieron y no es capaz de hacer daño cuanto tienen bufos, narses me la Mata de un golpe y eso que tengo aumentar defensa y muchas más protecciones en cambio ella le deberían hacér una mejora para que sea más competitiva en el único lugar donde Medio sirve que es la arena su A2 en la forma original debería ignorar el 50 de la defensa más escudó inmortal bloquear daño ya que es su única habilidad por que la otra es solo un básico que no pega nada, y en la transformación sus golpes también deberían aumentar daño contra enemigos que tengan bufos
I think y'all are wrong about Aphidus. He's not a PvP champ, that you're spot on with, but I'm running him on all the hard floors(except FK) and he's crushing it. His def down and 2 hard hitting AOE attacks are really great. His alt form is kinda useless to me though. There's way better supports and provokers
FTP 4 months in the game. With only 2 primal shards I manage to pull my first mystical today, Lady Mikage on the first draw, outside fusion. I am only here to know her worth on the list. But you guys seem to be only applying to the end ranking. I can't even touch Hydra muchless thrive in mid level PvP.
Iove u guys great energy i have one mythical i got two weeks ago pulled 2 primalsnto finish fushion and it was the new high elf hes actually insane hes a dutches, lady kimi, yamiko, and stunner rolled into one hes great everywhere in the game soo op
I've got a 2-5 star blessing for almost every mythical. The problem is I don't have any MYTHICALS!!! 😢 Bro if a Dragon Ball Z collaboration happens just take my wallet.
They gave me fatalis and mezomel but it's sad that my epic nuker continues to hit harder, they don't do any damage in arenas, they don't even kill a defense nuker 😢😢😢
When they nerv polymorph more -for example champs like "krixia" would became really the number 1 OP best champ in the game - so they also would have too nerv her - or we never get a Balance in the game.
Krixia definitely would be super strong but we've got to find a balance. As it stands now nothing is stronger than Polymorph. It is just way too powerful.
@@bigpoppadrockrsl yeah even though I don’t have her and only ragash and harima or harima, wythir, and ronda plus arbiter as well is wrecking team in gold v
Pulled a frolni last night and no one ranks him well fml 😂 being as I only have 5 legos… I think he’ll be very big for me, but ima wait till next event I actually go all in on, to build him.
You need to do more colabs !!!. Your high energy fits so well when you do more serious discussions with other more calm content creators. The vid you did on Ash channel was similarly good. Love It!!
So true
Nice video guys! You guys are absolutely insane when it comes to Karnage the anarch though. First his Aura is the fastest arena speed aura in the game. Then his A3 is a 3 hitting attack with a combined 8.1 attack multiplier that also gets 8.1 per acc. It places unremovable block active skills & block passive skills, and transfers all of those debuffs to the rest of the enemy team when it kills the target (and each hit of the 3 hitting skill has a 50% chance to spread even if it doesn't). If by some miracle he doesn't kill the target the 3rd hit will also steal the targets turn meter. That is an absolutely S+ tier ability and that's not even discussing the rest of the crazy abilities on his kit which include minimum 50% chance to counter attack when an ally is hit, a crazy hard hitting AoE nuke which ignores shields, ally protection and block damage when hitting targets under 2 or more debuffs (which they will probably have if you open with his A3 in form 1) and another crazy hard AoE nuke that block revives if the targets have 3 or more debuffs.
If you told me you thought he was the best mythical champion in the game I think you could make a solid argument for it. Rank 8 is just crazy!
I genuinely thought he was no contest the best champ in the game lol. That's why plarium time gated him to fit with likely a gear release or fusion to make him slightly less mental. He has the highest base atk in the game, a mental kit and a guaranteed 6 star soul. The guy is gonna DEFINE the meta lmao.
You probably forget about sheep farm :)) He will be getting shep like crazy...
@@czechRaid Debuff spread does not trigger sheep. Things like taras and harima are extremely meta despite having higher chances to be sheeped on their fears, provokes, stuns, and decrease attacks than karnage will on his single target A3.
@SyricZx Karnage the Anarch, the mythical Demonspawn.
With Lazarius, did you know If he's in his second form and transforms back into his first form, the revive passive of this first form triggers right away before he starts his extra turn! Great vid, you two have awesome energy together
keep dissing frolni :) love him in high level live arena... Rarely gets banned because everyone sleeps on him. He really just needs one kill to get going with good gear, and mine is just as tanky as my siphi with 110k hp (which goes up quickly with kills), 4.6k defense, 325 crit damage, 240 speed (with speed and crit damage ramping quickly). Granted I don't have Georgid or Harima, but honestly, he usually ramps up quicker than Harima in live arena. Vs. Harima teams, he usually wins for me. Also, not relevant for endgame, but he's a 12-second NM campaign farmer and 20-second mino farmer.
He's definitely scary if you can get some kills that's for sure. I am probably underrating him a bit haha
I have a +1 Frolni who is fully awakened as well and I use him all over the place, but I almost prioritize his form 2. Great in Iron Twins, Ice Golem, and arena def. I’ve had a Georgid one shot himself trying to kill him. I have him with 110k hp, 5k def, 400 resist and 210 speed with the fully awakened smite buff. He can solo ice golem hard and iron twins for me basically lol.
I was literally lmao during ashes video when he was so hyped for siegfrund! I was just waiting for him to realize that he isnt even a real mythical that can change forms when you want him to 🤣🤣🤣 & ash definitely didn't disappoint with his reaction once he realized that he can't change forms except for a passive lmao
That's Siegfrunds biggest issue and Plarium should have easily forseen that. He's a decent nukers but his support form is actually really strong...the problem is because of his conditional metamorph he has to be built as a nuker leaving his support form squishy and mostly unable to be used.
For sure & and the majority of the time, you never even get access to his support form smh. Which I agree is really nice. It's just too bad you can't use it. Plarium really needs to fix this, and honestly, it would be as easy as switching his support form to his first form, & making him able to avoid having his nuke form locked out, & by getting rid of his inability to switch forms, basically making him a legendary. @@dukekessler6292
When I go against him in arena I purposefully try and get him to metamorf just to see his other abolity 😂
Yeah he's got so much potential but just really really needs a buff!
@@bigpoppadrockrsl funny how things can change in the course of three days …
Hardwork pays off!!! Happy you collaborated with Ash! Nice video
Thank you Rashaun! Appreciate all your support from the very start my man! Really cool to see how far the channel has come right?
Great collab !!after 5 yrs with no siphi, duchess, hedgy or Valkery...I pulled starsage, and that made up for it.
Heck yeah!! That's a massive massive pull. He is legit one of the best champs in the entire game. Congrats!
I love your budding Bromance with Ash! He is probably the only Cc that can match your energy and I look forward to your collabs in the future!!!!!!!!!!❤
Haha I think he's an awesome dude. I'd be honored to one day have a bromance with him 💪🏻
Also, after ash's declaration at the beginning of the video about there only being one trash mythical. I was just waiting for aphidus & frolni to come up and see what he had to say about them 🤣
Lmao yeah there are a couple of tough ones for sure. Need some buffs!
Drock man you are just a charismatic guy, I think you have good chemistry with all the content creators I have seen you with. Still waiting for the shini and drock collab where you go off on him for helicath and failtalus. Nice to see you are almost at 8k subs, so you can get access to the test server.
Thank you Aerlsa! Lot of great creators out there for sure and I'm lucky to get to jam with them!
Been waiting for this collab since y'all mentioned it over on Ash's channel, haha. About a 7th of the way through but wanna say that I think the gap between the bottom "mythicals" and the actual mythicals is immense.
I mean you have Krixia who can do remove debuffs, decrease cooldowns on your team and increase them on the other team.... then you have Siegfrund, who can sit around and do fuck all until your team is dead and then hopefully revive them (which won't happen in this anti revive meta) or you have the dwarf who's name is so forgettable that even though I just saw it, I've already forgotten it, and he, well, he does an ally protect. That's kind of it.
I'm of the opinion though that the power creep for the older vs the newer mythicals is going to be like like a chasm of sadness that grows slowly and surely every patch.
Yet, even after all that, I'd be pretty stoked to get a mythical out of the primals. (Until I see who it actually is and the hype dies almost immediately if it's the last few mythicals.)
everytime the word Polymorph comes up... it feels like a "Drock Smash!" moment... The madder Drock gets.... "Drock Bruce Banner... pelted by Gamma Rays..." : )
Lmao accurate. I hate Polymorph so much. I can't put into words how much I hate it.
Big dubs on the collab!! ❤❤
Thank you!
Need to do this again after Siegfrund buff
I made a video on the recent buffs so I'd say check that out!
ahhh.. when you said "Shu-Zhen + Mikage"... yes... same happened to me... I couldnt get a turn.. and I had Taras, so, all they had left were Shu-Zhen and Mikage... I was caught in a loop i could not get out of... and its a very dangerous pair if running very fast... the 2 by themselves wore my team down, and they eventually won. Nutz combo.
It's insane. That's exactly what happened to me and it was game over. Nothing I could do lol
I love longer videos so damn much. The rage I get when I pull a Jingwon is lessened by a chill hour long video playing in the background.
Some of the points still stand, but has your ranking on Siegfrund changed since the 8.3.0 buff that happened after this video came out?
Can you use Alsgor Crimsonhorn in place of Tower or Helicath? I use Helicath & Tower in mr CB team but dont have a place for Alsgor yet.
I would think so. They all put up block damage buffs so I see no reason why not but you'd need to check the skill turn cooldown to make sure it syncs up before doing it. If you have a functioning 1 key clan boss team I wouldn't mess with it though. More work than it's worth to change that up. Hope that helps!
Heard Androc got hit with the nerf hammer. Is he still decent for hydra and clan boss?
Yeah he's lost a lot of value. I don't think he's as good as some other choices for both game modes now.
How do you guys feel about siegfrund now that the change was announced? Awesome video btw
I think he's better but still not where he needs to be. Think I'll do a video on it actually
I heard about you when you did your colab with Ash and I guess say that I love what I have seen from you 2 together. Just joined the channel as well. Keep up the great work and I love your energy my friend!!
Thank you and welcome in! Appreciate you checking out the channel!
Whats your thought on gizmak?
Seems like a pretty solid Hydra champ. Don't think I'd use him in arena though.
One of the most engaging raid collabs of all time, long video but lots of discussion all the way through 👌
Still we need drock x saph collab that's gonna be great 😎
Thank you my man! And keep your eyes peeled...there just might be a Saph collab on the way!
So glad you love the lizard he is so good in all aspects of the game due to his support form. Number 1 for me for sure
Love my lizard big time!
But on Mezomel the buffs aren't only one turn, so you could still change forms and use an ability while they're still active, no? So what makes her worse than Turvold in that regard? (I don't have her I'm not butthurt she's low on the list or anything lol, just didn't really understand that point and BPD saying "that's a really good point" confused me.)
So the problem is you'd want her buffs to stay active the entire time in her secondary form in order to build her with less crit chance. Because they disappear quickly you aren't able to build her with only 70% crit chance and that caps the damage she can do. Ideally she could keep her buffs up the entire time in her second form to do massive damage.
Big Poppa & Ash is becoming my favourite duo. Only discovered Poppa Drock recently and im OBSESSED about your content. Keep up the great work!
All of this discussion about Siegfrund really aged like milk lol
If Kizzle and Bert Kreischer had a kid BigPoppaDock is it! This was awesome. I'm glad to have finally found him.
Im a f2p and one time i had a random primal shard and when i pulled it i got night queen krixya which was very lucky and super helpful for my account
Hell yeah! That's an awesome pull!
Drock great vid! I got Galathir and he is pretty nuts. I don’t have your gear so would be sick to see what you could do with him.
Ah man I'm jealous! He seems absolutely incredible. Would love to snag him one day!
Karnage hasn't been test yet but karnage has amazing multipliers and insane attack along with a new debuff
His multipliers are supposed to be nuts. Will be interesting to see how good he is!
I got him last week. He might be one of top damage dealer in PvP . another thing his damage in all his abilities is based on his Atk and Acc . that make him more unique.
I got Karnage last week during CvC. A real monster in his second form . the damage is also based on Atk and Acc in all his skills.
Nice to see my man Drock with the big guys (not a big fan of Ash content but everyone talks great about him so it must be true). Probably never will get a mythical other than Mikage as a ftp haha, but i would love to get the lion and the barbarian for my account, for the stuff i run they would make the more sense. Wouldnt be too bummed about anyone except for siegfrund, I dont get how you can justify his metamorph, even ive defeated him with ease.
Thanks my man! And I'd say give Ash another chance. He's a great dude and I genuinely find his Raid content to be funny and informative. I hope you snag a good mythical soon!
You and Ash . Hell yeahhh . Keep going drock looking forword to see your channel growing 🎉
Thank you my bro! And I'll bring snacks I promise 😉
the biggest crime in raid history is hell hades giving krixia a 4.5 rating.
Hahaha I can get on board with this. Shes definitely a 5 in my eyes.
Androc is by far the best current mythical not only does the enfeeble makes you take barely any damage but you can’t get debuffs when they week hit so basically he just makes bosses do nothing. Great collab tho
Very good point. He's definitely great in PVE for sure. Crazy he can enfeeble bosses!
Pretty clear this video is mainly about arena. He's probably the best pve mythical, but really only place he's great is hydra. Which isn't an issue if Gharol makes all the heads be permadead.
Where would you guys rank Gizmak, I just pulled him today in the 2x!! My first mythical from a shard and his kit is EXTREMELY interesting!
Love the colabs between you two. Made me laugh and brighten my day. More please.
I fricking love you two! Some of my favourite CCs together! Thanks for the entertainment guys! :D
Love the Vid guys but i think androc is the best PvE champ in the game by miles the AoE enfeeble beats every boss and a debuff extender means it has 100% up time also good in PvP once they go below 50% HP as it can't be cleansed so it's gg
I completely agree, his enfeeble is extremely good in PVE and in live arena he's so funny because most people don't know what he does 🤣
Great collab guys!!! Keep em coming.
Thank you Dru!!
One of the owners of a single mythic being Siegfrund checking in 😂 BUFF HIM!!!
Ah man I feel for you bro. They need to make him good!
As much as anyone can joke and meme. I do love how you are so strongly against polymorph and wanting it to change for the betterment of the game. I am so sick of it even only facing it every 5-7 battles. Loved the video you guys bring the greatest vibes together
I love how American poppa drock is 🤣 truly an icon
Hahah I am definitely super American 😂 Though I do wish I lived in Europe!
You guys are a great combo! Very fun video to watch. Thanks
Thanks DD! Glad you liked it!
Aphidus was my first mythical and he's straight up in the vault. Felt like a let down for end game content.
Yeah he's definitely not on the same level as the others. Super disappointing for sure
Stating the obvious here, but some of the "more interesting kits" (ie, Mezomel), it's intentional down tune of damage (similar to Inithwe), because (again, for obvious reasons)... with that said... That DOES kind of ruin it, all around. Even a +4 Inithwe, fully awakened... not enough damage to get it done... and that keeps him out of meta (certainly has niche use, and certainly can do fine in G5 etc), but, for Top end (like yourself Drock), that "missing damage" is a deal breaker (even if the kit is otherwise deadly.. ie, "block revive). Point is.. it's on purpose, and i think Plarium could do better tuning to make more viable. Slight dmg boost needed, and more counters to that mechanic.
I agree. That lack of damage severely limits several champs. Fatalis is another one that should be awesome but is unusable due to lack of damage. Such a shame they won't effectively balance champs anymore.
Deberíamos exigir que plarium le haga rework a mezomel es frustrante ver que mi mejor set con 6500 de ataque y 320 de dañó crítico no sean capas de matar a un nuker de defensa ni se diga a un tanque como pueden llamar mítico a un personaje que se ve bien pero su daño es como de un épico???
Le añado que narses taras giorgi mejor dicho todos los mejores nuker la matan con el solo básico y eso que tiene 3 mil de defensa es frustrante lo mismo con mi fatalis 😢🥴
El único nuker que tengo en 4 años es wukon y fue gratis pero este le está quedando grande las altas arenas también 😢 estoy cansado de ver a todo el mundo con las dos parejas en un mismo equipo narses ankora marisca y taras no soy capaz ni de quitar medía vida
Love the videos,very chill vibes.Keep it up!
Thank you!!
Awesome list and colab you 2 nailed it. Sadly I only have one mythical but gladly it's gharol love her for almost everything especially pvp. Keep up the great vids man. Cheers
Thank you! And Gharol is incredible!
Siegfrund was my first myth, really bummed out, he makes a good campaign farmer though. Recently got Arbais and oh boy she had a big impact on my account, she really carries my Iron Twin as well.
I pulled Galathir from the Cursed City free reward and yeah, I love him - his kit is absolutely wild. I was saving books for Mikage but I think they will actually go to Galathir.
I'm curious where Siegfrunt would place now after his rework
A little higher for sure but the issue is you still can't choose when to switch into his form and he can still get easily locked out on his first form
I got aphidos a few months ago from a primal shard and I was so incredibly pissed I would have rather pulled that void werewolf, epic guy
I got lady mikage and night queen and they've helped my account immensely
Both are awesome champs for sure. Congrats!
Can we get a new ranking after the buffs and nerfs?
i think stuff like poly would be fine if you came out with 75%hp 50% tm and its cleansible with a block dmg coming out of it
For sure. If they just made it less OP it would be fine.
@@bigpoppadrockrsl ye i feel like a tuned down version would be positive if anything
nice ! love your energy drock youre a class act
Thank you man! Really appreciate that!
Androcc is pretty good, i think his place is justified he smacks on his a2 and he does some ignore defence which Is strange. Before transformation pretty good for cb and hydra. And his mythical form, that enfeeble really makes hydra hits funny 😂😂
you guys love arena lady mikage is the most useful end game pve champion. S tier in the most important areas of the game hydra, clan boss, fire knight hard, and even arena
The energy of these two synergize well.
When you pull for mythics and get hyped up, then watch this video and realize you pulled the bottom 4...
While i agree that he's not as top tier as others, I use Frolni a bunch on a tanky team as a hard counter to Wu Kong. He racks up those four kills easy, and if i need survivability along with dropping my enemies acc his amored form kicks in. He's strong and can be helpful depending on the situation.
Both you and mythical ash just puts a good mood in me! Great creators!
Don't give them any hate!
Two of my favourite loudheads in one video😂.
Cant wait for the polymorph rant video on ash channel🎉🎉🎉🎉.
I just watch the whole god damn video...dnt realise it was that long
Karmage will apparently be the best nuker in the game. I am not completely sure what abillity but saph said that he has 8. something multiplier... So he should just annihilate everything.
I got him last week. His damage is also based on Atk and Acc by the way. Can not wait even to put my hand on his 6 star blessing from Cursed city.
I'd love more collaboration, great vid
Thank you! Hopefully more to come!
Garol doesn't transform on auto. I set Metamorphosis as her opening move and she does the ally protection. Infact, I can't get her to transform at all on auto.
I don't even use her because of that. If she can transform on auto, I can't figure out how to make her do it. I can get all my other champs to do what I need them to do on auto.
Garol is a vault champ for me for that reason alone.
It is definitely frustrating that she doesn't change firms automatically. It's a shame because there's pretty much zero reason to use her first form. I will say she hits incredibly hard in Hydra though. Still worth it for me to use her there.
Been waiting for this to drop since seeing ash's video where you talked about the polymorph debacle smh
Appreciate you supporting as always my bro!
Mezomel It needs an urgent improvement since its only use is arenas and it is not even competitive there to be a mythical, just as they gave Nefeling a rework, she deserves it too
Lezarius on support form in Hydra is Amazing as well he remplaced my lilithu on nm
He's so so good. People definitely are sleeping on his support form but I'm thinking they're waking up now
One more owner of single mythical- Siegfrund :( Great collab!
I’ve been waiting for this this list since watching ash’s video 2 days ago
Sorry it took so long! Hope the wait was worth it and thanks for watching!
It was worth the wait
Great collab look forward to another!!
I kinda agree that Alaz for pvp probably not the best but he probably best champ for pve imo
Yeah I probably underrated him. His kit is insane for PVE for sure!
Make polymorph have a chance of being reflected back, yes I know unlikely but would make it less desirable to have the chance of ones own champs being sheeped
I'll take anything that makes it less powerful. Right now it's just insane how strong it is
I skipped the void dude and rolled a few mythical shards. Got the alaz dude and i love him already
Mezomel is carrying me really well in gold 5 to be honest. She out damage dmy Baron easily, plus block reviving guys like wukong through stoneskin is also huge. I would love to have her also ignoring shields in that a2 though.... Also, her self buff is 3 turns.... So you can a2, transform and do aoe a2 whilst still being under the buffs.
Pero me la dieron y no es capaz de hacer daño cuanto tienen bufos, narses me la Mata de un golpe y eso que tengo aumentar defensa y muchas más protecciones en cambio ella le deberían hacér una mejora para que sea más competitiva en el único lugar donde Medio sirve que es la arena su A2 en la forma original debería ignorar el 50 de la defensa más escudó inmortal bloquear daño ya que es su única habilidad por que la otra es solo un básico que no pega nada, y en la transformación sus golpes también deberían aumentar daño contra enemigos que tengan bufos
I think y'all are wrong about Aphidus. He's not a PvP champ, that you're spot on with, but I'm running him on all the hard floors(except FK) and he's crushing it. His def down and 2 hard hitting AOE attacks are really great. His alt form is kinda useless to me though. There's way better supports and provokers
Not to mention his utility(debuffs extend on an AOE) have him doing tons of damage in any long fight
Starsage is insane I use him with the thundergod mythical they've paired well together I've got them on a level 50 acct
Alaz’s second form is great for dealing with stoneskin tryhards in live arena!
Good point! I didn't even think about that!
Actually I do want to talk about polymorph 😂
Lmao I can't help myself. God I hate it so much!
FTP 4 months in the game. With only 2 primal shards I manage to pull my first mystical today, Lady Mikage on the first draw, outside fusion. I am only here to know her worth on the list. But you guys seem to be only applying to the end ranking. I can't even touch Hydra muchless thrive in mid level PvP.
Iove u guys great energy i have one mythical i got two weeks ago pulled 2 primalsnto finish fushion and it was the new high elf hes actually insane hes a dutches, lady kimi, yamiko, and stunner rolled into one hes great everywhere in the game soo op
you 2 collab so great i love ash but your big dog so he dont try to over talk you
Hey thanks for the love! And trust me Ash is the big dog. I am a small minnow compared to him!
Androc has enfeeble and consant turn meter bost or depletion. I think he is amazing carry
He's definitely got some great utility in PVE for sure. We might have underrated him!
Holy 💩 his account is STACKED geez best I've seen 🤯 9 Mythicals and like all +4 Legendaries.
you can sort your champs by rarity ;)
This is correct and I always forget it lol
I've got a 2-5 star blessing for almost every mythical. The problem is I don't have any MYTHICALS!!! 😢
Bro if a Dragon Ball Z collaboration happens just take my wallet.
Damn that's rough! Need to get you some of those mythicals asap!
Frolni is a little better than what youre thinking. Great counter to Harima
Only plarium can add new crazy champs above legendary tier that be vault guardians.😂
They gave me fatalis and mezomel but it's sad that my epic nuker continues to hit harder, they don't do any damage in arenas, they don't even kill a defense nuker
😢😢😢
When they nerv polymorph more -for example champs like "krixia" would became really the number 1 OP best champ in the game - so they also would have too nerv her - or we never get a Balance in the game.
Krixia definitely would be super strong but we've got to find a balance. As it stands now nothing is stronger than Polymorph. It is just way too powerful.
Lady Mikage is so good with jintoro or harima with wythir the crowned and with ragash
I could see that. She's an awesome champ for sure!
@@bigpoppadrockrsl yeah even though I don’t have her and only ragash and harima or harima, wythir, and ronda plus arbiter as well is wrecking team in gold v
Pulled a frolni last night and no one ranks him well fml 😂 being as I only have 5 legos… I think he’ll be very big for me, but ima wait till next event I actually go all in on, to build him.
Ok I’ve subscribed. Your energy is great. Can only imagine pounding some drinks and yelling polymorph at a bar.
I just got Galathir, and happened to have a 6 star blessing :D
I have a +1 Aphidus and he’s destroying Spider with his AoE burn
He definitely has his uses. He's just a little outclassed by the other mythicals sadly.
@@bigpoppadrockrsl Oh most def! I was just happy I found a way to use that dude since I keep pulling him lol!
Siegfrund buff incoming. Time to redo the video 😂
Yeah I saw haha. He's definitely better but they needed to buff him more I think. Will do a video on it.
I really just hope I don’t pull the hivelord friday on the 2x😂 I’ll even take my 3rd mikage
I kinda pulled my first mythical and i got a frolni, welp am still hyped though