And my dad thought no body even knows this thing exits today, except him ofcourse there one featured in his wardrobe museum! Wait till he sees this review. Thanks alot for posting, i am sure it was worth the effort.
I will do, as they come no felt light trapping, some on order. Also have to make myself a film splitter, or get some 16mm film stock. For me slitting is the preferred option. Might get some from that to fill my Minox ones as well, I have bulk 35mm in a bulk loader you see.
These things are awesome, I just got mine working again! The only trouble is finding labs that will process the color stuff, but in Boston it's not too tough.
Mike Kennedy It's called Colortek. They don't do a lot of analogue printing, but they will process the film. There are other labs that will do it, but I haven't looked into them.
Colortek, and they can process anything, but they can only make analog prints of 135 and 120/220. My M16MG has a dedicated flash unit and a PC socket (which I assume is also M-sync) but it works really well. It takes a 15-volt battery, it has a capacitor, and I use AG-1B bulbs, which produce amazing amounts of sunlight-colored illumination. There is also an attachment that takes flashcubes, but that ruins the sleek profile of the camera and doesn't really offer any added convenience. The great thing about film cameras is that when better films come out, you can use them, whereas a digital will never take better pictures than it did the day it was new and will quickly be superseded by the next model.
I have a harder time finding 16mm cassettes than Minox ones. I guess the Minox was more popular and supported for a longer time? I love goathill and the frame cost of shooting subminatures and digitizing with a loupe + phone camera. Its been a month since I bought 10 feet of film for a Minox and I've burned through ten 36 frame reloads. I couldn't imagine doing that with 35mm. Sometimes I'm antsy to get something developed so I only load 12 frames. If I ever go back to 35mm film, I'll bulk load for sure.
Yes the plastic 16mm cassettes are rare. The cameras was built very solidly and s many more of them are around and in great working conditions. There seems to be more Minox cartridges than the 16mm. The problem was a lot of these were broken open to get the film out. There was no concern that they might be reused. There are even some counterfeit 16mm catridges being sold at all one. There was a Russian copy of this camera made. The catridges were not interchangeable on some models and some Russian cassettes will only fit in the first model they made. I think it was called the Vega?
Darn. I thought 16mm cassettes were standardized. I guess I'll stick with Minolta since there's also more camera models. At least the Kiev copies usually come with a cassette. Is there a recommended starter 16mm subminature? Minox B's were so abundant.
hizokuto the Minolta 16 like I show were really built well and had no electronics to go bad so they seem to be one of the best user cameras to get. They had other models but they don’t seem to be as many of them and not necessarily working if they had a light meter. For the Minox I think the B is the one you find most often.The problem with them id the light meters are not accurate because of age. So it is best to estimate or have a light meter. Today’s film have so much latitude for exposure it gets easier to get good photos. I never thought the Minox cameras would drop in price the way they have, but I guess digital devalued everything. The B use to be a good price at $250 but now you can get them for $60 or less.
Thanks_ I do remember that now. The steel trap mind id getting rusty. Will be doing one on the Minox and minox format ones as well. I'm looking for a minox developing reel if you know a source. Have found one in England.
is their a video online were one can learn how to take 16mm motion picture film and load it onto one of the plastic reels in order to keep using this awesome camera?
An 16mm film will work, you just need to cut it to the right length and load it into a cartridge. You have to do this in the dark. Goat Hill photo sells it cut to the right length. Look at subclub.org. The link doesn’t always work so do give up if you don’t get it the first time.
Mike Kennedy I just got mine a few months ago off ebay for around $4 bucks, and it looks pretty new for being such an old camera. I don't have the mount, but I am hunting for one and a tripod. I'd actually like to find all the accessories they made for it.
They are rugged . That is why we still have them around. Now finding the plastic cartridge for the film is the real problem . The Russians had a more or less copy of this camera also. 16 mm film is so much cheaper than any other option out there.
And my dad thought no body even knows this thing exits today, except him ofcourse there one featured in his wardrobe museum!
Wait till he sees this review. Thanks alot for posting, i am sure it was worth the effort.
Varun Mani before digital these subminiature cameras were still being used by a lot of people as just a fun camera to use.
Hi Mike, please do more videos on subminiature cameras. I’ve just bought a Minolta 16ii.
I will do, as they come no felt light trapping, some on order. Also have to make myself a film splitter, or get some 16mm film stock. For me slitting is the preferred option. Might get some from that to fill my Minox ones as well, I have bulk 35mm in a bulk loader you see.
Nice!
These things are awesome, I just got mine working again! The only trouble is finding labs that will process the color stuff, but in Boston it's not too tough.
let me know the name of the lab please? was it E6 film or the ECN2 Remjet backed film?
Mike Kennedy It's called Colortek. They don't do a lot of analogue printing, but they will process the film. There are other labs that will do it, but I haven't looked into them.
Colortek, and they can process anything, but they can only make analog prints of 135 and 120/220. My M16MG has a dedicated flash unit and a PC socket (which I assume is also M-sync) but it works really well. It takes a 15-volt battery, it has a capacitor, and I use AG-1B bulbs, which produce amazing amounts of sunlight-colored illumination. There is also an attachment that takes flashcubes, but that ruins the sleek profile of the camera and doesn't really offer any added convenience. The great thing about film cameras is that when better films come out, you can use them, whereas a digital will never take better pictures than it did the day it was new and will quickly be superseded by the next model.
I have sound a trader on eBay who 3D prints Carthage’s, they seem very well made.
Tell me how they work out
You're welcome. Are you a current submin user?
Just bought this.
I have a harder time finding 16mm cassettes than Minox ones. I guess the Minox was more popular and supported for a longer time?
I love goathill and the frame cost of shooting subminatures and digitizing with a loupe + phone camera. Its been a month since I bought 10 feet of film for a Minox and I've burned through ten 36 frame reloads. I couldn't imagine doing that with 35mm. Sometimes I'm antsy to get something developed so I only load 12 frames. If I ever go back to 35mm film, I'll bulk load for sure.
Yes the plastic 16mm cassettes are rare. The cameras was built very solidly and s many more of them are around and in great working conditions. There seems to be more Minox cartridges than the 16mm. The problem was a lot of these were broken open to get the film out. There was no concern that they might be reused. There are even some counterfeit 16mm catridges being sold at all one. There was a Russian copy of this camera made. The catridges were not interchangeable on some models and some Russian cassettes will only fit in the first model they made. I think it was called the Vega?
Darn. I thought 16mm cassettes were standardized. I guess I'll stick with Minolta since there's also more camera models. At least the Kiev copies usually come with a cassette. Is there a recommended starter 16mm subminature? Minox B's were so abundant.
hizokuto the Minolta 16 like I show were really built well and had no electronics to go bad so they seem to be one of the best user cameras to get. They had other models but they don’t seem to be as many of them and not necessarily working if they had a light meter. For the Minox I think the B is the one you find most often.The problem with them id the light meters are not accurate because of age. So it is best to estimate or have a light meter. Today’s film have so much latitude for exposure it gets easier to get good photos. I never thought the Minox cameras would drop in price the way they have, but I guess digital devalued everything. The B use to be a good price at $250 but now you can get them for $60 or less.
Hello Mike - Are you able to visit subclub? The site seems down for me. - Steve
Thanks_ I do remember that now. The steel trap mind id getting rusty. Will be doing one on the Minox and minox format ones as well. I'm looking for a minox developing reel if you know a source. Have found one in England.
I have misplaced my 16mm developing reel and have not been able to try it out.
is their a video online were one can learn how to take 16mm motion picture film and load it onto one of the plastic reels in order to keep using this awesome camera?
Yankee film developing tanks do 16 mm. Stainless steel reels are available but pricey. Some people have adapted Paterson reels down to 16mm also.
Hello, do you know were i can find the film? thanks
An 16mm film will work, you just need to cut it to the right length and load it into a cartridge. You have to do this in the dark. Goat Hill photo sells it cut to the right length. Look at subclub.org. The link doesn’t always work so do give up if you don’t get it the first time.
that's cool and enlightning! thanks!
i found one of this at arc thrift store for $3.00 lol!! havent tried it with film but it fires.
Good luck with it! Goat Hill has film for it. Hope you got a film cartridge with it.
THANKS
I have a model 1 and it is built like a tank.
That is why they are still in use. problem is the cassettes were plastic. What is different about the model one?
Mike Kennedy Sorry that was a typo.. I have the same model 2. I don't even know if there was a model 1 to be honest?
FerrariDMC there must have been, have you used yours in awhile. I am getting ready to start up again.
Mike Kennedy I just got mine a few months ago off ebay for around $4 bucks, and it looks pretty new for being such an old camera. I don't have the mount, but I am hunting for one and a tripod. I'd actually like to find all the accessories they made for it.
They are rugged . That is why we still have them around. Now finding the plastic cartridge for the film is the real problem . The Russians had a more or less copy of this camera also. 16 mm film is so much cheaper than any other option out there.
Subclub.org isn’t working
I just checked, it is working fine now. I do know that sometimes this site is not accessible.
I have Model II on the way from ebay.
Mike yuor link does not work
The link for the sub club goes down occasionally. Try again later and report back.
@@m005kennedy Oh bullshit. It went out of business about the time this video was posted.
The sub club or a vendor advertising their?
The subclub is still active. The comments come odd sometimes. I can't see what we were originally talking about. Fill me in
@@m005kennedy The basic link to the site has been gone for many years.