Please please PLEASE get rid of the playoffs! Get rid of the stages and the green-white-checker finishes! Just let the races be races. If someone wins the title with five races to go, or a 500-mile race by two laps, let it happen. It's supposed to be racing, not a math quiz. They're gaming it. It's obvious.
Man, it's not even remotely the same. Bell rode the wall. He did a hail melon. The maneuver was banned. NASCAR did the right thing to but Byron in and Bell out.
I'm done with nascar after this season, hopefully Tyler wins for Denny and then it'll be the greatest season ever. The team suing nascar wins the title, would love to see that.
One guy fakes a flat tire and sandbags, then you have three Chevy teams box in the fords, and somehow never get to the 24's bumper? How is this racing? It's a puppet show.
the fake flat was a last second attempt to overcome the chevy's running a roadblock for, i don't know the exact number, but what seemed like 15 to 20 laps. the chevy's manipulation got the whole ball rolling, and should definitely be penalized. bell riding the wall penalty was definitely weak, not even close to what chastain did.
the pit radio for the 3 1 and 23 indicates that they were working on getting the car make into the chase the 3 and 1 blocking for the 24 and the 23 backing up so Bell could pass him its all wrong all should be looked at just like the Michael W team way back years ago if Nascar dose nothing about this BS I will not be tuning in any more all involved should be parked for the last race to put a stop to all this in future
Danggg It (HMS) was close to getting making in final 4 championship next week @ Phoneix still terrific come back 2024 season for #9 Elliott after bad injury last year.
I wrote a 30 page paper in college on how the business model of nascar was set up to fail in the late 90s and significantly after Dale passed… a combination of mile & a half tracks built in replace of the old short tracks…
You keep complaining along with the rest of the comments. I was there and it was packed. It’s still awesome if you can get past the fact that change happens. It’s not Winston anymore boomer. But it’s still awesome
as far as I can recall (I didn't research properly before commenting so correct me if I'm wrong) this is the first time that neither one of the Hendrick Motorsports drivers make it to the final 4 ever since the Playoffs system was invented (or even when they called it Chase for the Cup)
Ultimately the only way the playoffs ends is if Comcast who owns NBC and USA tells NASCAR to end them. Same with the owners of the CW (Nextsrar Paramount and Warner Bros Discovery) for the Xfinity Series and Fox for the Truck Series.
It was. Don’t let the haters get you down. I was there and enjoyed every second. I went to 5 races this year and the stands were mostly full with the exception of the roval. If you determined nascars success based on the comments the stands would be empty. People just love to complain regardless of the facts.
Pretty ridiculous ending, amazing how we keep 1-upping ourselves down this rabbit hole that is the playoffs. But NASCAR's made their bed, and chose entertainment over racing. I dont blame them, because this has been the most spectacular year of NASCAR ive witnessed. Its fitting NASCAR owns IMSA. Pure racing happens there, and if thats what you want, go watch the 24hrs. Ready to watch 2024 go out with a bang at Phoenix 😊
@@tuffguy428 Because no other automotive racing series that still has some sort of integrity left, runs a playoff system. That's because it's incredibly stupid, ill sighted, and frankly doesn't reward what should be a season-long story with a resounding finale. You don't do playoffs in racing. If you were to do it legitimately, no other cars would be on the track save for the playoff contenders only.
Это Позорище! Судьи просто отдали последнюю путевку Шевроле для более "интересного" с их точки зрения финала (чтобы были все три производителя в финале)! В отличие от маневра Честейна, сразу после обгона Буббы видно, как Бэлл пытается поймать машину чтобы не прилипнуть к стене. А перед финишем он вовсе от нее отлип. Также, ввиду командных радио на последних кругах Диллона и Честейна, почему это не признано "манипулированием результатами гонки"? Где для них хотя бы денежный штраф?
I keep hearing this “Hendrick cheating tyrhrbfhdjdowoanbfueiw” crap, referring to Bell’s DSQ. The rule book clearly states that wallrides, such as Bell’s, are banned because of the potential danger. NASCAR followed its rules (for once), and it just happened to be that the benefactor was a Hendrick car. Also, would you be as mad if Byron did the same thing and got DSQ’d? No, you’d be cheering. There’s a point to where it is wrong to call a consistent call by NASCAR “cheating”. I will edit this as I need to. Please don’t start a war in the replies if this gets popular.
People are getting tired of the obvious team orders/race manipulation. NASCAR needs to pull a Spingate and penalize the 1,3,20,23,24 50 point penalty for race manipulation.
@@TGL_STUDIOS One could argue that wall riding has a lot less implications at Darlington than Martinsville, and I’d imagine it wasn’t to advantageous for the wallridee. I totally agree with what you said regarding Bubba. He (along with the 24, 20, 1, 3, and anyone else I forgot about) should be docked points.
it was because it was used to pass opponents to advance. that did not happen here. so basically, they are saying it's illegal to rub the wall. well, then they better be stopping the race and dq'ing drivers every time they rub the top, or lose control and scrape along the wall. how's this any different? bell rubbing the wall did not advance him. they dq'd him solely for the purpose of ensuring that chevrolet advanced into the final 4.
Bell got screwed. He made a pass and got stuck on the wall and accelerated while getting off the wall. Nothing like Chastain's move. Horrible NASCAR call!
It's not different at all lol. Whether it's one corner, or Two, a hundred yards or one yard, he rode the wall lol. He over drove the corner, stuck it there, and gassed it
@@Alibi0014 Bell got screwed! While I agree that he overdrove it, Bell was stuck on the wall. This was nothing like Chastain driving against the wall at full speed for a half a lap!
The 5 getting knocked out of the playoffs was a kick in the pants but as long as Denny goes 0-21😂 and Penske is turning into the Kansas City Queefs of Nascar with Lafagno getting gifted a final 4 spot
Park all cars at Phoenix with audio trying to rig the race. This must be stopped. There should be no word of who is where on the third stage between driver and spotter.
As if the 23 wasn't slowing down. This cheating is ridiculous. Nascar needs to pay alot of money for each position to the drivers. Even back in the pack. A driver probably wouldn't let someone pass for a playoff spot if it was 20k they lose for that position.
Penske Ford is just efficient. They won 2022, 2023 and 2024 they have 2 cars in the final. they are there when they needed. In F1 season 1989 Keke Rosberg won F1 championship by just 1 race win. In 1980 the Raiders won the super bowl XV as a wild card team with a regular season record of 11-5. That's the interesting thing of sport. Just my opinion.
@@KelsoUSMC lol lets not act like Suarez still having a ride is not nascar trying to be as diverse as it can. We all know he is no good don’t waste your energy trying to defend him.
@@jackbannock3458team Chevy cheated. The crappy part is even if they penalize Byron, a hendrick will still make it. I guess at least it’s Larson who deserves to be in the final 4.
@smalls3187 it's not the 24s fault the other Chevy teams didn't pass him to help him make it. It wasn't as bad as Bubba slowing down to a crawl for almost 2 laps so Bell could catch him and pass him to make it.
SVG got punted at the Glen for the win so NASCAR is definitely happy with drivers who don’t have the talent to pass fairly just Verstappening each other out of the way.
He didn't intentionally wreck anybody. Not his fault they didn't have the talent or ability to save their cars. He "Nudged" them out of the way so he could win....exactly what we see and love every weekend. NASCAR used to have a let the boys settle it in the track policy? What happened to that?
Larson not making the championship 4 is actually the most Nascar 2024 thing ever
W
@@Duval-In-The-Wall he shouldn’t of choked then
It a ***** joke never watching this bs again
@@Duval-In-The-Wall Kyle Larson greatest strength is also his greatest weakness. He make champions making moves but those risky moves cost him dearly
I didn't realize what a savage Steve Letarte was, the way he respectfully and politely called out Carson Hocevar, LOL!!!!
I love how he made sure people know he's a great driver.
Joey Logano is the smirking girl in front of the burning house today.
Thats weird. And makes no sense.
@jsmr451 apparently her meme sold for half a million
Joey is Her here to this person
Please please PLEASE get rid of the playoffs! Get rid of the stages and the green-white-checker finishes! Just let the races be races. If someone wins the title with five races to go, or a 500-mile race by two laps, let it happen. It's supposed to be racing, not a math quiz. They're gaming it. It's obvious.
The Nascar of old that we grew up on is gone! The France family will never go back to it...
I'm with you there. People will say it's boring. I like boring.
And now Supercars are trying to follow NASCAR, what a joke of a system.
@@rickclogston5205 amen, playoff system just cheapens the entire season, real titles where in Winston cup
No other racing series uses play-offs, cause they all know it sucks, but Nascar insists on sticking with it......
welcome to the championship 4 jeff gordon
Man, it's not even remotely the same. Bell rode the wall. He did a hail melon. The maneuver was banned. NASCAR did the right thing to but Byron in and Bell out.
Another hamlin lover, it's so awesome he isn't in the final 4 and will never win a championship lol
Jeff Gordon retired years ago there guy, William Byron is who is in the final 4. I can't believe people still believe he drives the car.
@@DeathstarMXR without Jeff Gordon the 24 isn’t in it was the point lol
@@jackbannock3458Another Elliot fan who makes the sport harder and harder to watch
Two of the best drivers this year are inelligible for winning the championship. Absolute joke of a sport.
Intelligible 😂
I believe you meant ineligible. And I agree it is a joke.
Nice PFP!
@@sinbaadi oh my god
I've always loved Martinsville. The rear bumper in front of you is perfect for braking.
I'm done with nascar after this season, hopefully Tyler wins for Denny and then it'll be the greatest season ever. The team suing nascar wins the title, would love to see that.
That was an amazing race... what a crazy drive through the field for Blaney. Phoenix is gonna be awesome.
One guy fakes a flat tire and sandbags, then you have three Chevy teams box in the fords, and somehow never get to the 24's bumper? How is this racing? It's a puppet show.
NASCAR = MAJOR FAIL
This format is a complete and utter joke.
the fake flat was a last second attempt to overcome the chevy's running a roadblock for, i don't know the exact number, but what seemed like 15 to 20 laps. the chevy's manipulation got the whole ball rolling, and should definitely be penalized. bell riding the wall penalty was definitely weak, not even close to what chastain did.
look at the brakes on the 16 at 14:19
Stunning race for Blaney. Feel bad for Bell. Phoenix is going to be a great race.
Kudos to the commentators for trying to make these processions sound exciting ! Watching rush-hour traffic on the Freeway is more entertaining !
LETS GO BLANEYYY
I'm glad they raced reasonably clean!! Kudos to Blaney!!
Blaney did not race clean he tried to wreck larson and everyone else today learn facts please
He didn’t wreck him or bump him. He rubbed him. And rubbing , son, is racing.
Wooooo let's go Ryan 🏁🇺🇲 it don't get better than THAT
Blaney with the greatest comeback in nascar history honestly. CINEMA.
the pit radio for the 3 1 and 23 indicates that they were working on getting the car make into the chase the 3 and 1 blocking for the 24 and the 23 backing up so Bell could pass him its all wrong all should be looked at just like the Michael W team way back years ago if Nascar dose nothing about this BS I will not be tuning in any more all involved should be parked for the last race to put a stop to all this in future
Waaaa waaa call the waambulance
How come all you guys saying 'I will not be watching' keep coming back to complain in the comments? Also buddy, take an English class 😂
@@chrislangley2336
Nascar is dead
@@shakefl are you offering classes dip chit
@@jesseingle8020 class ended 2 weeks ago 😂 see you next spring
This race was so good but of course Race Manipulation ruins It & Nascar is ok with it unbelievable
What a nail bitter of a race! Sucks for Larson to not make it in and Elliott for being so close, but that was a heck of a race
What was that that NASCAR said something about not riding the wall? I guess Bell didn't get the message.
Danggg It (HMS) was close to getting making in final 4 championship next week @ Phoneix still terrific come back 2024 season for #9 Elliott after bad injury last year.
YEEEEEES!!! LETS GO, BLANEY!!!!
BOBBY ALLISON TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP RACE WITH HIS WIN A COUPLE DAYS AGO!! 85!! HE SHOULDVE ADVANCED. dropping the ball once again nascar😢
Yeeahh blaney!!! Woohoo!!!🤘😎
Martinsville never fails. Exciting race track!!
I wrote a 30 page paper in college on how the business model of nascar was set up to fail in the late 90s and significantly after Dale passed… a combination of mile & a half tracks built in replace of the old short tracks…
Great race!! Terrible points system and sanctioning body
thank you
My pick christopher bell ended is not in the final 4? NOOOOO!
I know the feeling marcus its all good brother my drivers larson and elliott didnt make it i have the same reaction as you
I feel bad for you
It’s okay my friend. Next year.
@@GvlvxyMilk good point
@@Dupontman627 thank you
what happened to the sport i love
Hey Gary! Nice to see you!
You keep complaining along with the rest of the comments. I was there and it was packed. It’s still awesome if you can get past the fact that change happens. It’s not Winston anymore boomer. But it’s still awesome
@ bro just called a 24 year old a boomer
If Spingate and the HailMelon had a child...
The Hail Felon
Thank you Goodyear!
They still put NASCAR on TV?
as far as I can recall (I didn't research properly before commenting so correct me if I'm wrong) this is the first time that neither one of the Hendrick Motorsports drivers make it to the final 4 ever since the Playoffs system was invented (or even when they called it Chase for the Cup)
Byron doesn't count?
Bell got DSQd, so it's Blaney, Logano, Reddick and Byron.
NASCAR = MAJOR FAIL
Yeah they outlawed that move after the 1 did it
@@Duval-In-The-Wall but he wasn't trying the move. do people forreal not watch replays and onboards and in-cars?
@@mtsachs
I watched the replay, looked he floored it when he hit the wall
@@CraftySasquatch The guy with the most of everything this year, Kyle Larson, didn't make even after finishing 2nd yesterday.
Blaney would not be denied!
Ultimately the only way the playoffs ends is if Comcast who owns NBC and USA tells NASCAR to end them. Same with the owners of the CW (Nextsrar Paramount and Warner Bros Discovery) for the Xfinity Series and Fox for the Truck Series.
Gotta admit that was a great race
Don't worry, the bugmen will find something to be miserable about.
A terrible race manipulation to get in playoffs
@@dsnodgrass4843everyone should be miserable about nascar turning races into crapshoots where crashing on purpose is incentivized rather than punished
How was that a great race?
It was. Don’t let the haters get you down. I was there and enjoyed every second. I went to 5 races this year and the stands were mostly full with the exception of the roval. If you determined nascars success based on the comments the stands would be empty. People just love to complain regardless of the facts.
Somewhere sitting on a cloud Alan Kulwicki is smiling at Ryan Blaney
Pretty ridiculous ending, amazing how we keep 1-upping ourselves down this rabbit hole that is the playoffs. But NASCAR's made their bed, and chose entertainment over racing. I dont blame them, because this has been the most spectacular year of NASCAR ive witnessed. Its fitting NASCAR owns IMSA. Pure racing happens there, and if thats what you want, go watch the 24hrs. Ready to watch 2024 go out with a bang at Phoenix 😊
This win must’ve felt so cathartic for Blaney after being the victim of Reddick’s clutch move at Homestead.
I was a huge advocate for these playoffs but no more.
A reason?
Current playoff simply creates controversy and does not reward skill
Same. In what other sport, if you don't make the playoffs, do you still get to play and influence the results??? Insanity thy name is NASCAR 🤣
@@tuffguy428because the best driver is not even in the final 4 it's simple and has dominant all year
@@tuffguy428 Because no other automotive racing series that still has some sort of integrity left, runs a playoff system. That's because it's incredibly stupid, ill sighted, and frankly doesn't reward what should be a season-long story with a resounding finale.
You don't do playoffs in racing. If you were to do it legitimately, no other cars would be on the track save for the playoff contenders only.
Yeah, don't care for the multitude of screens at the same time. Too much to see.
A Phoenix destroyer called Ryan Blaney is going to Phoenix. You can just forget about the drivers' championship because Blaney is gonna win it
Это Позорище! Судьи просто отдали последнюю путевку Шевроле для более "интересного" с их точки зрения финала (чтобы были все три производителя в финале)!
В отличие от маневра Честейна, сразу после обгона Буббы видно, как Бэлл пытается поймать машину чтобы не прилипнуть к стене. А перед финишем он вовсе от нее отлип.
Также, ввиду командных радио на последних кругах Диллона и Честейна, почему это не признано "манипулированием результатами гонки"? Где для них хотя бы денежный штраф?
Dale Jr should team up with other legends of the sport and just start their own Winston cup!.
So stockcar racing's version of the infamous Indycar split?
Kind of sounds like the CARS tour 🤔
Yeah then maybe all you boomers can go complain in that comment section instead!
I was there
Way to go Blaney 🙌🏽
Hated shorts ovals!!😮😮
So bell can’t drive hard???? Byron is Richie Rich kid who has had everything paved for him
Let's go Alex Bowman
I wish they would get rid of the elimination stages. If you must have a playoff, just reset the points and leave it alone.
NASCAR = MAJOR FAIL
Polish victory lap......been a while since I've seen that.
I'd rather watch a vacuum cleaner infomercial than watch NASCAR
I keep hearing this “Hendrick cheating tyrhrbfhdjdowoanbfueiw” crap, referring to Bell’s DSQ. The rule book clearly states that wallrides, such as Bell’s, are banned because of the potential danger. NASCAR followed its rules (for once), and it just happened to be that the benefactor was a Hendrick car.
Also, would you be as mad if Byron did the same thing and got DSQ’d? No, you’d be cheering. There’s a point to where it is wrong to call a consistent call by NASCAR “cheating”.
I will edit this as I need to. Please don’t start a war in the replies if this gets popular.
Finally somebody says it. I swear people are stupid.
I've seen drivers do what Bell did at Darlington several times with no punishment.
Bigger issue is Bubba slowing down to let him by
People are getting tired of the obvious team orders/race manipulation. NASCAR needs to pull a Spingate and penalize the 1,3,20,23,24 50 point penalty for race manipulation.
@@TGL_STUDIOS One could argue that wall riding has a lot less implications at Darlington than Martinsville, and I’d imagine it wasn’t to advantageous for the wallridee.
I totally agree with what you said regarding Bubba. He (along with the 24, 20, 1, 3, and anyone else I forgot about) should be docked points.
@@smalls3187 Well said! I believe Larson’s conduct has been far more fair.
Blaney is gonna win the cup
I can’t believe ppl think it’s ok. They made it very clear after the 2022 race that move was illegal
it was because it was used to pass opponents to advance. that did not happen here.
so basically, they are saying it's illegal to rub the wall. well, then they better be stopping the race and dq'ing drivers every time they rub the top, or lose control and scrape along the wall.
how's this any different? bell rubbing the wall did not advance him.
they dq'd him solely for the purpose of ensuring that chevrolet advanced into the final 4.
@@zzz7zzz9do you not have eyes?
@@MrJaybeezy123 are you saying he rubbed the wall to pass the 23?
Bell got screwed. He made a pass and got stuck on the wall and accelerated while getting off the wall. Nothing like Chastain's move. Horrible NASCAR call!
It's not different at all lol. Whether it's one corner, or Two, a hundred yards or one yard, he rode the wall lol.
He over drove the corner, stuck it there, and gassed it
@@Alibi0014 Bell got screwed! While I agree that he overdrove it, Bell was stuck on the wall. This was nothing like Chastain driving against the wall at full speed for a half a lap!
The 5 getting knocked out of the playoffs was a kick in the pants but as long as Denny goes 0-21😂 and Penske is turning into the Kansas City Queefs of Nascar with Lafagno getting gifted a final 4 spot
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Hella lame move by NASCAR race control to take away Christopher Bell's spot in the championship 4. NASCAR doesn't have the nads they used to.
Bell did it to himself because he rode the wall & Nascar had no choice but to hand down a penalty
NASCAR = MAJOR FAIL
This format is a complete and utter joke.
To many g h e y rule in NASCAR
Ford power 🔋 💪
I don’t root for anyone. I just hope logano doesn’t do good.
Too many cars on that little track
Go Lee Stiffie
Hate this playoff nonsense.
nascar is trash, but Blaney doing the polish victory lap, good on him.
Yo sere campeon en 2030
Make every race an elimination race!!! More manufactured game 7 moments are needed!!!
Park all cars at Phoenix with audio trying to rig the race. This must be stopped. There should be no word of who is where on the third stage between driver and spotter.
Hey Jeff what happened to MWR for helping teammates? Oh isnt that why you got to compete for a championship in your last season??
Lol that's completely wrong. Do you even watch racing, the mwr thing happened like 7 years before Jeff's last championship run. Wow
@@jackbannock3458I heard they are giving Jeff the 5th spot in the finals this year.
@smalls3187 you sound like a jealous hater of jeff and all he's accomplished.
As if the 23 wasn't slowing down. This cheating is ridiculous. Nascar needs to pay alot of money for each position to the drivers. Even back in the pack. A driver probably wouldn't let someone pass for a playoff spot if it was 20k they lose for that position.
Hey Nascar 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
RYAN BLANEY!!!!!!!
I speak for every guy hear. The nbc camera guy had a great shot of ryans girl lop
Time stamp? I know she's hot!
It should say LOWLIGHTS in the title not highlights. They should be ashamed of the farce this has become.
Larson and reddick should be battling for a championship best overall should be champ not 2 mediocre Penske cars that win once a year
Penske Ford is just efficient. They won 2022, 2023 and 2024 they have 2 cars in the final. they are there when they needed. In F1 season 1989 Keke Rosberg won F1 championship by just 1 race win. In 1980 the Raiders won the super bowl XV as a wild card team with a regular season record of 11-5. That's the interesting thing of sport. Just my opinion.
Spoiler blocker
Hocevar needs to learn some manners. Someone will teach him sooner or later. Actually caused a wreck as I was typing this.😡
Obviously Exampling Manipulation.
OEM.
There's your problem.
Logano winning is the only way this championship will be legitimized
lol the guy with a 12th overall average all year? No that would be a travesty. Joey has serial killer eyes
So if the level of talent required is so high, why does Suarez still have a ride?
Because Suarez got 1 more win than 16 other full time drivers? WTF? Why not bring up someone who HAS NOT WON a race this year?
@@KelsoUSMC lol lets not act like Suarez still having a ride is not nascar trying to be as diverse as it can. We all know he is no good don’t waste your energy trying to defend him.
If, as you are saying, Suarez' level of skill isn't high enough, why is he 12th right now?
How do you win 6 races and not make the playoffs????? What a stupid way to run a show.
I'm so glad William Byron is in the Championship 4 after the #20 got eliminated.
Byron will be docked 50 points come Tuesday along with the 1 and 3
@smalls3187 no they won't lol. Stop crying
Leigh Diffy makes anything he commentates worse.
Bell is out simply because he isn't in a Chevy.
Ummm... Bell is out because of a Safety Violation and he knew it as soon as he got out of his car. Has nothing to do with the car he drives.
He's out because he rode the wall lol
I WON'T BE WATCHING NEXT WEEK LIKE BUTTON
The playoff format is proof that NASCAR turned into a joke!
🇺🇾🇺🇾🇺🇾🇺🇾🇺🇾🇺🇾FANS PENSKE
Bell should be there....they ruled for a hendrick car
Hahaa he cheated along with scrubs Bubba. Glad they got booted
@@jackbannock3458team Chevy cheated. The crappy part is even if they penalize Byron, a hendrick will still make it. I guess at least it’s Larson who deserves to be in the final 4.
@smalls3187 it's not the 24s fault the other Chevy teams didn't pass him to help him make it. It wasn't as bad as Bubba slowing down to a crawl for almost 2 laps so Bell could catch him and pass him to make it.
Playoffs suck
kick Bubba out for race manipulation too
Congrats to blaney. The rest of the finish was a joke and disgrace. NASCAR turning into wwe
What a joke. Pathetic
NASCAR = MAJOR FAIL
This format is a complete and utter joke.
Ban bubba
Thought nascars rule was you can't touch another car for a pass to win??? Remember Austin Dillon?
Lmao what? Dillon intentionally wrecked two cars.
SVG got punted at the Glen for the win so NASCAR is definitely happy with drivers who don’t have the talent to pass fairly just Verstappening each other out of the way.
He didn't intentionally wreck anybody. Not his fault they didn't have the talent or ability to save their cars. He "Nudged" them out of the way so he could win....exactly what we see and love every weekend. NASCAR used to have a let the boys settle it in the track policy? What happened to that?
Anyone other than Blaney 👎👎👎