Overall, I like it, although I'm not thrilled at eating up under-awning space. Never mind switching it to the other side, I'd prefer this without that slide at all. There's enough room to be comfortable. Hell, I might just leave the slide in if I'm spending most of my time outside. Love the bathroom, especially the proper doors on the linen closet, and that accent light is a nice touch. No complaints on the kitchen, and having the TV at a more comfortable level than most RVs is very nice. I think two ACs would be overkill so there's no need for 50 amp anyway. I'm cool with making coffee and toast the old fashioned way, on the stove, so as long as the solar keeps the fridge and lights running, I'm happy. Regarding the bedroom, the slide out closet is probably overkill for weekend trips, but makes longer term or living in it full time much more practical. I'm fine with a camp queen, though I could easily just upgrade to true queen if the default mattress is too hard on my back.
Fantastic trailer. Checks all the boxes for me, except for one. I would like to have a kitchen slide instead of the living room slide, so that the space under the awning is maximised. Thanks, Josh!
I think the benefit of the awning shading the slide out way out-weighs any "loss" of outdoor space. Honestly, I noticed we don't sit under the awning while outside much anyways -- but it's really nice having the sun shaded off that slideout...
I looked at one of these yesterday and it's extremely well made. The countertops are awesome --- which makes me wonder why other brands use horrible countertops... (I'm looking at you Ember). I'm 6'5" and NEED an 80" bed, didn't notice it at the dealer yesterday. Other than the bed I really was impressed with the trailer.
I like this one. Loads of storage. The windows on the slide out more than make up for any space outside it uses up. As for not having that slide, I'd have to check it out and see how it feels, you know? My gut says I'd rather the slide, my head says no slide is easier. 1 less thing to go wrong. I love the layout! I really like the bedroom. Although it's tight, it feels homey. That kitchen is pretty awesome. I love Lagun tables, always have. they are perfect here. I never thought about wall mounting. Someone there is paying attn to the details. I like the option for a sleeper couch and table, I think you'd really want the slide then so you could move around it. I don't think it needs a second a/c. It's small enough, and it looks like there are vents in the bedroom ceiling. If you like it cold to sleep (like I do) there just needs to be a way to shut down the living area vents and send the air to the front. My 100+ yr old house with no a/c does just fine. I have a window a/c in the bedroom, but leave the door open so the dogs can go in and out. With all the windows and cross breeze, fans work. Not that my home situation matters here, really....the brain is running with squirrels at the controls.
Perfect for the couple that just puts 2 chairs outside! I love kitchens in this position. Totally could be a no slide rv. Slam latches?! Oh man! I was 1 year too early…
That's very interesting Josh that you mentioned the no slide thing because that was my first thought was about having no slide except in the bedroom alone. It would all fit the same without the hassle of the slide screwing up the great outdoor awning space!!! This one is 90 Percent Great!!!
Like the floor plan. Would love to see no slide version. Reviewing the comments, seem other people like that idea too. Hope more manufacturers listen. Less weight, less trouble!
I absolutely love the trailer layout for two people. We have lived in Grand Design Reflection 337RLS fifth wheel for 3 years while building our own home. We use the recliners all the time and eat our meals there. We rarely use the dining table. It also has a slide on the "passenger" or "camp" side, but the awning folds out from the slide, so it really does not use up awning space.
Nice unit! But yes…. I think the theater seating do not need a slide. To me it looks like an excuse to charge more for the RV. It seams like enough room to make it work and you take out the inconvenience of the awning hitting the top of it.
Great to see the living room on the camp side.. would ask for more length for a dining area looking over the camp side... i know its "backwards" from traditional rv's .. totally like what they are working with. My current truck can tow this and id be willing to upgrade if this trailer had a heavier version with more features with the same layout. Thanks for another great walk through! 🦒
I really like this layout, my wife and I camp in the off season mostly (rain in the PNW) and rarely sit out under the awning. I also like the idea of not having to have sewer/water lines under the slide AND being able to move the TT closer to the hook up side of a camp spot. One thing I will say is our current Rockwood Ultralite (2612WS) has the wardrobe slide and while it is "ok", that is the slide I could live without. I really like the access/view of the camp side and this kitchen is great! We use our oven a lot and the 16" would be a deal breaker for us. One thing Rockwood could/should also do is get rid or the triple glass shower door. They always jump the track and are a pain. Replaced ours with a Nautilus and couldn't be happier! Thanks for the great reviews!
I wish they would have had this floor plan last year. We had a smaller Minilite that we liked but wanted something with more kitchen counters since we were going south in winter for a couple of months. We found the GD Imagine 22RBE and really liked the floor plan. I tried to find a similar plan in another brand but there wasn't anything so we bought the Imagine. But, while Grand Design is good there are things that, we feel, Rockwood does better. First, for someone who is living in the unit for a month or more and does a considerable amount of cooking, the 22" oven in our Rockwood was used frequently while the 16" in the Grand Design is worthless. I think GD needs to step up on this option. (Although, personally I'd rather have a nice size convection oven and induction cook top. It would be nice if manufacturer's could offer that option.) Second, it would be nice if GD included at least one big fan with a cover like Rockwood does. The camp side slide has not been an issue for us and was even an advantage in one campground situation, plus it makes a nice place to put your chairs under it in case of rain. The little tables with the theater seats are a great idea and just what we were thinking would be nice in our Imagine. And, I definitely want the slide as it really opens up the interior to make a small camper seem bigger. One thing I do like in the Imagine over the Rockwood is no windshield/ window in the bedroom. I know this is getting long, but while I'm mentioning things that would be nice, why don't more manufacturers offer floor plans with twin beds vs a queen/king in "couples" models?
I really like this trailer. It was a great layout and I super appreciate your putting out the awning to see what kind of campsite coverage we would have with the slide out overall, I think it looks very good and highly acceptable. Thanks again #NerdHerdForever.
I really like this floorplan as it looks like a lot of living area in a small space. The weights that you have posted for this unit look really optimistically light. Are those really the weights for this unit? I would expect the Max weight you have listed to be the dry weight..........but that is just me.
You say, "backwards" but it just looks like a 5th wheel-ish living/kitchen layout but in a travel trailer build. The awning/slide-out sitch is unfortunate, but, you know, physics. Not a show stopper for me. and I love the overall light weight and shorter length. And they did all that with no murphy AND with a closet slide! I think I'd go with the hide a bed option but again, nice to have the option!
I like this one. Weird but checks boxes. Awning, slide issue, Pool Noodle to the rescue. Always have a few pool noodles in your RV. There are many practical uses.
Like the floor plan with this one, but could do without the slide on the camp side. I think there would be enough room for the seats without it. Would give a better patio affect with more usable room under the awning.
Awesome coverage as always. Thank you for this round up. And about that slide, I prefer a more shallow slide without side windows along with a comfortable bifold sofa to provide me some extra sleeping space along with some extra storage under it on top of a more comfortable access on the road. In my opinion this would make a perfect light weight luxurious couples camper. Not to mention the bigger patio space under the awning as the main slide wan't eat much it. Thanks again, and looking forward to the next video.
I like it, but knowing you can’t use slide area while in, this one would be great with without the slide! The bathroom and bedroom have so much storage and kitchen is great too! I wouldn’t by because of the slide just because you should use while in and I want a rig for use in travel
FANTASTIC floor plan! As a mostly dry camper I'd like to see the black tank bumped up to 40 gallons. Also I'd like to option a dinette for the slide so I could enjoy the camp side windows sitting down.
I really like this model and pretty good cargo carrying capacity and roomy for traveling 6 months a year. The slide is not necessary good observation but it does open up the space.
This is a very nice Rv Josh! I like the layout. Nice it has a nice bathroom and storage in the bedroom. Nice counter space. Very nice Josh! Great video! I almost didn’t recognize you without a hat. I’m used to see you with a hat. How’s Michigan weather? Is it cooling off? Thank you josh for the video and the spectacular on it. This is a nice one especially with the outdoor grill. Thank you again Josh!
THE most important thing about this new model (which you listed in your specs but didn't focus enough on) is that RockStaff bumped the gray water tank up to 60 gallons but also maintained a 54-gallon fresh tank and a 30-gallon black tank...that's HUGE in this RV size range!! I wish they'd do that in all the other Mini/Micro Lite models that are 25-foot+, but it appears that this is the only 2024 model that includes the additional gray tank capacity. (Probably since it was up against a wall, you didn't indicate if it has two dump values, which it may very well have). If you're dry camping, gray water is often your limiting factor because if fills up faster than the black tank (and you can more easily bring in extra fresh water if necessary). Speaking of dry camping, what you said about Inverter inefficiency is SPOT ON!! (you're gettin' more edumacated about Solar 😁). That very inefficiency is why mfgs should ALWAYS include 12v "cigarette lighter" plugs in addition to USB A and USB C plugs. Many high draw electronics (like laptops, CPAP machines, or any electronic that comes with an in-line "brick" on the 110v charging cord) can be changed with automobile charging cords (that plug into the "cigarette lighter" barrel-style plugs) and don't need a full 110v change via the inverter. Instead, they need between the 5 volt maximum of a USB charging plug and the full 12 volts from the "cigarette lighter" outlet. So PLEASE lobby mfgs for both for 12v appliances AND 12v "cigarette lighter" plugs in addition to USB A and USB C plugs in new RVs!! Finally, I'd love to see the tall, narrow bathroom closet outfitted with flip-up shelves (instead of the built-in static shelves) so that you could flip them up to store a broom, mop, etc. As for the camp side slide/awning space, it doesn't leave much room to get out of the sun or rain if you're sitting outside under the awning...so that's bad...but the awning does provide shade for the slide if you're sitting inside on the recliner chairs on a hot, sunny days...so it's buyer's preference, I guess. Overall, great new RockStaff Mini/Micro Lite floorplan, but I"m still waiting on the video tour of the 2024 Rockwood Mini Lite 2513S model (or the Flagstaff Micro Lite equivalent)!
@@breth.8667 Thanks, I quickly checked the 2509, 2513 and 2517, which are all still 30 gallons (and more my preferences), and assumed they hadn't boosted any others (especially since the 2517 is New like the 2518). Again, I wish that they'd standardize on 60-gallon gray tanks on all the Mini/Macro Lites that measure 25' 10" or 25' 11"...clearly there is space for it.
2:46 I'm not sure if I'm the only one, but I know I'd love to hear the more detailed reasoning behind this. There are obvious things I think most of us get like weight capacity of slides and balancing the unit for travel and things like that but when you mention things like door placement, I think it may be helpful for a deeper dive. Just a thought if you're ever looking for a topic of a deeper dive video. Thanks for all you do
Not too bad. I suppose the lounge slide could be a bit shorter if people are worried about it damaging the awning. The slide certainly makes the inside more comfortable although having the lounge fixed inside is feasible.
Another quality Rockwood RV👍although I much prefer my kitchen and seating area overlooking “my” campsite not my neighbors, which also gives me all of that extra patio space that this slide-out takes up😊but there’s no excuse for that camp queen bed😢
Thank you Josh for your comprehensive reviews. I tend to agree with you about how the slide necessity. Perhaps they could make it half the size or as shallow as the closet slide. It will add a little more space and perhaps reduce the possibility of the slide tearing the awning while allowing more camp side space. Thanks again.
YES! It's about time! People are always saying WE NEED CAMPSIDE WINDOWS! As for the awning... why can't they add an extra second awning on the slide if that is an issue for people?
This is, overall, a great little trailer. I prefer not to have a campside kitchen because I don't want a campside exhaust vent. And yes, I'd be replacing the shorty queen mattress with a regular queen-sized; perhaps a firm memory foam type.
I would love to see a washer/dryer hookup in bedroom slide where shelves are and take the extra bed frame away that doesn't fit under the bed. I'm short at 5'2 and i have a really hard time finding a floorplan i like but the rockwood 2608BS was awesome as well with queen bed on a slide and no boxes beside bed to climb over.
That close slide is about half the depth a W/D prep space would need and lacks the physical ability to run plumbing thru it due to its positioning It's an interesting idea though!
Fantastic video showcasing this model! I really appreciate this. I just saw this model at a local dealer's website and the floor plan interested me. I'm at that point where I have a paid off half ton truck, low miles and don't really want another truck payment, especially with how crazy truck prices got a few years back. Also, interest rates suck now as well. This seems to be something I could enjoy on longer trips as a solo traveler, but still seems to have a livable functional floor plan. The only concern I would have is the single AC and no 50amp, eliminating a second AC option.
Thanks again for your video productions, Josh. I like the 2518s is well rounded. Regarding your question on a slideless living room area; very intetesting idea. Only drawback I might see is kid and pet factor for space. That few extra square fwet can be gold. Great balanced kitchen as well.
Hi @JoshtheRVNerd thanks for the video on this new "Rockstaff" model. Did you happen to notice if it has one gray/black outlet or a gray/black AND a 2nd gray "kitchen sink" outlet to make the 60 gallon gray holding tank spec? Looks like I see 2 drains at 15:15 into the video? Am not a fan of 2 drains/hoses. (The camp side slide is an "undesirable" also, but not a "deal-breaker").
Your 2619 empty weight is 3000 lbs off. It's 5619 according to Forrest River. This is another very nice variation in the Rockwood MiniLite collection. We love our 2023 2205S
Arrgh - Theater seat not cuddle compliant. Why do they do that? That is a big no-no. Do people actually ask for non-movable arm rests? And yes, I'd consider a no slide version. It'd be lighter and we'd have much less worry about slide issues and recover the outside area. Nice big pass-through!
Yes ….. no living slide is ok with me. We can’t use while traveling anyway and we like to have lunch while traveling. Would be nice to have a place to sit
OK Josh, in my time RV videos are at the number one and your channel is number one now that being said I just saw a thing on another like 10 best pick up truck campers and they make some for the Ford freaking ranger and the Chevy Colorado are you guys gonna start displaying something like that for us with smaller trucks? I think they’re in a good range $30-$40,000 or so not bad but is that something that is just exclusively in Brazil and Germany Switzerland and Other countries, and.not in America 😊 also, on this particular camper, I recommend people getting a microfiber beach towel and wrapping that TV before they start frying their eggs, spam or anything else that has a sizzle to it and that oven is Cornish game hen approved😂😂😂😂
As the owner of an 2021 Imagine 22RBE, I was interested to see what Rockwood was offering. I've always thought well of Rockwood's quality. So here's my thoughts on the 2518S. Bedroom: I prefer the Imagine. The extra slide isn't needed. Neither is the front glass, which I personally strongly dislike! I prefer the bedroom setup in the Imagine much better. Especially the full queen bed. Kitchen/living: Again, I prefer the Imagine, especially the large amount of drawer space. Also, I prefer the TV location and the window placement. Bathroom: 3 out of 3, I prefer the Imagine's layout. Having experienced the triple glass shower door, I enjoy the simplicity of the Imagine. The triple glass was always a maintenance headache for me to tend too. The vanity is hands down better, except the miniscule lavatory sink, and feels so spacious. Storage is definitely not an issue, either. Exterior: I like the Rockwood slide system. I also like the entrance steps and the grill location. The factory hitch is a plus, and are the Max Air covers. The exterior advantages, however, would not sway me away from the Imagine's interior advantages. Thanks for another great video, Josh! Come to the Longview, Texas location!
Man! If it was a bit longer and had a small dinette or table as well….. I would install an awning on the camp side slide, and a smaller awning from the door to the front of the rig.
Hello Josh! Thought I'd post here; As far as features on this model, I like most....but I have to admit that the living room slide is on the wrong side for the type of camping our family does.....we tend to be outside more and use the patio area for having chairs and tables under the awning space....I was thinking that Rockwood has a similar, more traditional floorplan (2516S?), with the slide on the opposite side....overall though, I think this model will attract some buyers! Great video with features and benefits as always! All the Best! ~Lou
Josh, I have always liked Rock/Staff. They are well built. I like this floor plan however, your idea about no slide out on the camp side of the trailer sounds good too.
I loved wardrobe slide, but I would like to see no slide at all in main area. This trailer answers all my needs for storage, bathroom window, kitchen on hookup side. My modification to it would be removal of sliding door in bedroom, sofa gone and replaced with bar/coffee counter with storage and hide-an-office custom build. This should get weights down. What is MSRP on this one?
Apologies I’m not in sales and don’t have pricing files. We keep pricing for anything in stock on our website and our folks at www.bishs.com/contact-us can assist with anything not currently on hand This is EARLY access footage so its possible Wei don’t yet have these on hand or on our site
I brought up the 2511S and found myself wishing they'd blend the two. I love the TV suspended over countertop rather than a dedicated entertainment center. Ironically, my wife did not like it so we are split. Ultimately I don't like the way the slide puts the griddle and shelf for outdoor cooking in that little corner. Overall, I think it's too disruptive for the main campsite.
Not bad. I generally don't like camp side slides because you usually end up with an awning arm next to the door, but the longer awning fixes that problelm. Def some kind of foam on top of the slide flange. As much as I love storage, I'd be willing to sacrifice the cabinets above the TV and move it up out of the way. No slide version of this depends on whether the theater seat can be fully reclined. If they made the doors of the wardrobe shorter by 6 inches or so (taking it from the bottom leaving the top in the same place), but keep the slide the same size (creating a pocket in the bottom), you could open the doors with the slide in which would be helpful for overnights or short stays when you don't want to open the slide. It would make the one side of the bed hard to get to, but doable.
@@JoshtheRVNerd the 2517s has the galley kitchen I like but it has the Murphy bed. I would rather have the bedroom from the 2518s that is a “separate” bedroom with the wardrobe slide out. The overall length would have to be extended to combine those two, I’m sure. Would be an awesome combo though.
Josh, thanks again for the video. I do like this unit. I believe I would be okay without the camp side slide. I don't like them. Other than that, I do like the unit. Thanks
A lot to like here but also a lot to decide if it's right for me here as well. The camp side windows are great in the video, however, you aren't looking out of them when you are sitting in the seats so there isn't much point to them since you are facing the other way. Taking up all that awning space is a deal breaker for me. The 12 volt tv, love that ability, however, it doesn't look like it would really feel like a living area with a tv as much as it looks to be you are watching tv from the outskirts of the kitchen. Personally, I would like if there was a sofa option with a center rest that moves out of the way. No dining table so "tv trays" instead. Idk, might be fun once in a while to eat that way but I would miss a table long term. I get it, no table means more space. A lot to love in the size of the camper, and how towable it probably is given its light weight, but it doesn't scream "buy me now".
I like it, not enough models have nice campside windows. I would def swap out the theater seats for a dinette. Roadmode is great! Do you think a larger tv would fit like 40"? Only ding i see is no pantry but seems to be enough Kitch cabinet space. BTW, do you have a measurement for the opening on the front passthru? thx
They need to figure out how to put a slide awning on the bigger slide and that would fix the awning issue, i do think that's going to be a big problem with one side dropped down for run off. Also that awning need a center support. By the way does it have dual sewer hookups?
*I done screwed up the specs. AGAIN..*
Here’s corrected weights
Hitch 645 lb.
Max 7,645 lb.
Empty 5,619 lb.
Cargo 2,026 lb.
Length 25' 10"
Height 10' 11"
Width 8ft
Fresh 54 gal.
Gray 60 gal.
Black 30 gal.
Solar 200w
Inverter 1,800w
She is too heavy to get hitched. My frame will not handle her weight. Hello weight watcher. 😉
Dang! I thought I was going to pull this with my mini cooper.😂
I like that little bugger. Focus on the campside, great cargo capacity. Nice rig.
Slide-free model would be great.
Overall, I like it, although I'm not thrilled at eating up under-awning space. Never mind switching it to the other side, I'd prefer this without that slide at all. There's enough room to be comfortable. Hell, I might just leave the slide in if I'm spending most of my time outside.
Love the bathroom, especially the proper doors on the linen closet, and that accent light is a nice touch.
No complaints on the kitchen, and having the TV at a more comfortable level than most RVs is very nice.
I think two ACs would be overkill so there's no need for 50 amp anyway. I'm cool with making coffee and toast the old fashioned way, on the stove, so as long as the solar keeps the fridge and lights running, I'm happy.
Regarding the bedroom, the slide out closet is probably overkill for weekend trips, but makes longer term or living in it full time much more practical. I'm fine with a camp queen, though I could easily just upgrade to true queen if the default mattress is too hard on my back.
Thank you for sharing and watching
You are the Best at RV reviews nobody comes close 👏
Wow TY :)
I like this unit 👌 It's different. I like the bathroom at the back. Kitchen has plenty of prep space too. All in all this seems like a nice unit.
I thought the same
Thanks for watching!
I love this design! In a hotter climate, the awning will keep the slide out cooler and in rain it will keep the debris from building up.
Yep yep!
This one is just about perfect, not too big, but not cramped. Great travel access and some good storage as well.
Glad you like it!
Fantastic trailer. Checks all the boxes for me, except for one. I would like to have a kitchen slide instead of the living room slide, so that the space under the awning is maximised. Thanks, Josh!
I agree. I’ve Always wished for more awning coverage on rainy days.
@@tooling_engineer That's what I was thinking. Especially for a shorter trailer like this one.
My pleasure!
Agree. Like it though
I think the benefit of the awning shading the slide out way out-weighs any "loss" of outdoor space. Honestly, I noticed we don't sit under the awning while outside much anyways -- but it's really nice having the sun shaded off that slideout...
I looked at one of these yesterday and it's extremely well made. The countertops are awesome --- which makes me wonder why other brands use horrible countertops... (I'm looking at you Ember). I'm 6'5" and NEED an 80" bed, didn't notice it at the dealer yesterday. Other than the bed I really was impressed with the trailer.
I like this unit. No sofa slide would be okay with me - especially since it is on the entry side.
TY
I like this one. Loads of storage. The windows on the slide out more than make up for any space outside it uses up. As for not having that slide, I'd have to check it out and see how it feels, you know? My gut says I'd rather the slide, my head says no slide is easier. 1 less thing to go wrong.
I love the layout! I really like the bedroom. Although it's tight, it feels homey. That kitchen is pretty awesome. I love Lagun tables, always have. they are perfect here. I never thought about wall mounting. Someone there is paying attn to the details. I like the option for a sleeper couch and table, I think you'd really want the slide then so you could move around it.
I don't think it needs a second a/c. It's small enough, and it looks like there are vents in the bedroom ceiling. If you like it cold to sleep (like I do) there just needs to be a way to shut down the living area vents and send the air to the front.
My 100+ yr old house with no a/c does just fine. I have a window a/c in the bedroom, but leave the door open so the dogs can go in and out. With all the windows and cross breeze, fans work. Not that my home situation matters here, really....the brain is running with squirrels at the controls.
Love the no slide idea with a trifold to sleep adult guests.
Perfect for the couple that just puts 2 chairs outside! I love kitchens in this position. Totally could be a no slide rv. Slam latches?! Oh man! I was 1 year too early…
That's very interesting Josh that you mentioned the no slide thing because that was my first thought was about having no slide except in the bedroom alone. It would all fit the same without the hassle of the slide screwing up the great outdoor awning space!!! This one is 90 Percent Great!!!
Ty
Like the floor plan. Would love to see no slide version. Reviewing the comments, seem other people like that idea too. Hope more manufacturers listen. Less weight, less trouble!
Yeah lot of similar input. Ty
I absolutely love the trailer layout for two people. We have lived in Grand Design Reflection 337RLS fifth wheel for 3 years while building our own home. We use the recliners all the time and eat our meals there. We rarely use the dining table. It also has a slide on the "passenger" or "camp" side, but the awning folds out from the slide, so it really does not use up awning space.
Thank you for watching!
Nice unit! But yes…. I think the theater seating do not need a slide. To me it looks like an excuse to charge more for the RV. It seams like enough room to make it work and you take out the inconvenience of the awning hitting the top of it.
TY for watching and sharing!
Rockwood, THANK YOU for the slam latches!!!
Great to see the living room on the camp side.. would ask for more length for a dining area looking over the camp side... i know its "backwards" from traditional rv's .. totally like what they are working with. My current truck can tow this and id be willing to upgrade if this trailer had a heavier version with more features with the same layout. Thanks for another great walk through! 🦒
Thank you for watching!
I really like this layout, my wife and I camp in the off season mostly (rain in the PNW) and rarely sit out under the awning. I also like the idea of not having to have sewer/water lines under the slide AND being able to move the TT closer to the hook up side of a camp spot. One thing I will say is our current Rockwood Ultralite (2612WS) has the wardrobe slide and while it is "ok", that is the slide I could live without. I really like the access/view of the camp side and this kitchen is great! We use our oven a lot and the 16" would be a deal breaker for us. One thing Rockwood could/should also do is get rid or the triple glass shower door. They always jump the track and are a pain. Replaced ours with a Nautilus and couldn't be happier!
Thanks for the great reviews!
Love feedback from owners! Ty!
Get that slide off my porch!! *using my old man voice* I loathe campside slides. Besides that, I love this camper.
hahaha
I wish they would have had this floor plan last year. We had a smaller Minilite that we liked but wanted something with more kitchen counters since we were going south in winter for a couple of months. We found the GD Imagine 22RBE and really liked the floor plan. I tried to find a similar plan in another brand but there wasn't anything so we bought the Imagine. But, while Grand Design is good there are things that, we feel, Rockwood does better. First, for someone who is living in the unit for a month or more and does a considerable amount of cooking, the 22" oven in our Rockwood was used frequently while the 16" in the Grand Design is worthless. I think GD needs to step up on this option. (Although, personally I'd rather have a nice size convection oven and induction cook top. It would be nice if manufacturer's could offer that option.) Second, it would be nice if GD included at least one big fan with a cover like Rockwood does.
The camp side slide has not been an issue for us and was even an advantage in one campground situation, plus it makes a nice place to put your chairs under it in case of rain. The little tables with the theater seats are a great idea and just what we were thinking would be nice in our Imagine. And, I definitely want the slide as it really opens up the interior to make a small camper seem bigger. One thing I do like in the Imagine over the Rockwood is no windshield/ window in the bedroom.
I know this is getting long, but while I'm mentioning things that would be nice, why don't more manufacturers offer floor plans with twin beds vs a queen/king in "couples" models?
No worries about the long message. I love the perspective of actual owners. Keep suggestions coming. Sometimes they stick
I really like this trailer. It was a great layout and I super appreciate your putting out the awning to see what kind of campsite coverage we would have with the slide out overall, I think it looks very good and highly acceptable. Thanks again #NerdHerdForever.
Thank you very much!
Yes thx Josh for showing and addressing the awning coverage
I can't wait for more 2024 Rockwood reviews 🎉 2517 especially
I have it. Stay tuned
I really like this floorplan as it looks like a lot of living area in a small space. The weights that you have posted for this unit look really optimistically light. Are those really the weights for this unit? I would expect the Max weight you have listed to be the dry weight..........but that is just me.
See pinned comment. Obvious error lol 🤦🏻♂️
That looks more like it! It's all in good fun!@@JoshtheRVNerd
That makes good sense.
You say, "backwards" but it just looks like a 5th wheel-ish living/kitchen layout but in a travel trailer build.
The awning/slide-out sitch is unfortunate, but, you know, physics. Not a show stopper for me. and I love the overall light weight and shorter length. And they did all that with no murphy AND with a closet slide! I think I'd go with the hide a bed option but again, nice to have the option!
I like this one. Weird but checks boxes. Awning, slide issue, Pool Noodle to the rescue.
Always have a few pool noodles in your RV. There are many practical uses.
Copper pipe tubing kinda does the same and already comes pre-slit!
I like the push for camp side windows. More units need to do that.
It's slowly catching on with a few brands
Like the floor plan with this one, but could do without the slide on the camp side. I think there would be enough room for the seats without it. Would give a better patio affect with more usable room under the awning.
It may be tight but I think there's potential as well
This one NAILS it for couples. I LOVE it!
Ember, take notice for an Overland version!!!!!!! 😉
Interesting idea..
@@JoshtheRVNerd the only thing I’m not a big fan of is TWO slides. But this is a great small unit floor plan.
Awesome coverage as always. Thank you for this round up. And about that slide, I prefer a more shallow slide without side windows along with a comfortable bifold sofa to provide me some extra sleeping space along with some extra storage under it on top of a more comfortable access on the road. In my opinion this would make a perfect light weight luxurious couples camper. Not to mention the bigger patio space under the awning as the main slide wan't eat much it. Thanks again, and looking forward to the next video.
I like it, but knowing you can’t use slide area while in, this one would be great with without the slide! The bathroom and bedroom have so much storage and kitchen is great too! I wouldn’t by because of the slide just because you should use while in and I want a rig for use in travel
Thx Nita!
I like it, especially the closet. The rear bath is a good idea.
TY For Watching!
PERFECT, now you have a rear n side greese splatter shields. Turn the TV to the right and presto. 2 greese shields.
Haha
Love it. Maybe like the imagine. Drawers in kitched Not cabinets. Awesome
FANTASTIC floor plan!
As a mostly dry camper I'd like to see the black tank bumped up to 40 gallons.
Also I'd like to option a dinette for the slide so I could enjoy the camp side windows sitting down.
I really like this model and pretty good cargo carrying capacity and roomy for traveling 6 months a year. The slide is not necessary good observation but it does open up the space.
My husband and I could live in this just the way it is!! Great trailor!!
It really is!
This is a very nice Rv Josh! I like the layout. Nice it has a nice bathroom and storage in the bedroom. Nice counter space. Very nice Josh! Great video! I almost didn’t recognize you without a hat. I’m used to see you with a hat. How’s Michigan weather? Is it cooling off? Thank you josh for the video and the spectacular on it. This is a nice one especially with the outdoor grill. Thank you again Josh!
Weather just turned here. Morning getting chilly
@@JoshtheRVNerd
Oh ok thank you Josh was just curious of how the weather was there. If it was getting cooler or not. Glad it’s nit snowing there! Lol!
THE most important thing about this new model (which you listed in your specs but didn't focus enough on) is that RockStaff bumped the gray water tank up to 60 gallons but also maintained a 54-gallon fresh tank and a 30-gallon black tank...that's HUGE in this RV size range!! I wish they'd do that in all the other Mini/Micro Lite models that are 25-foot+, but it appears that this is the only 2024 model that includes the additional gray tank capacity. (Probably since it was up against a wall, you didn't indicate if it has two dump values, which it may very well have). If you're dry camping, gray water is often your limiting factor because if fills up faster than the black tank (and you can more easily bring in extra fresh water if necessary).
Speaking of dry camping, what you said about Inverter inefficiency is SPOT ON!! (you're gettin' more edumacated about Solar 😁). That very inefficiency is why mfgs should ALWAYS include 12v "cigarette lighter" plugs in addition to USB A and USB C plugs. Many high draw electronics (like laptops, CPAP machines, or any electronic that comes with an in-line "brick" on the 110v charging cord) can be changed with automobile charging cords (that plug into the "cigarette lighter" barrel-style plugs) and don't need a full 110v change via the inverter. Instead, they need between the 5 volt maximum of a USB charging plug and the full 12 volts from the "cigarette lighter" outlet. So PLEASE lobby mfgs for both for 12v appliances AND 12v "cigarette lighter" plugs in addition to USB A and USB C plugs in new RVs!!
Finally, I'd love to see the tall, narrow bathroom closet outfitted with flip-up shelves (instead of the built-in static shelves) so that you could flip them up to store a broom, mop, etc. As for the camp side slide/awning space, it doesn't leave much room to get out of the sun or rain if you're sitting outside under the awning...so that's bad...but the awning does provide shade for the slide if you're sitting inside on the recliner chairs on a hot, sunny days...so it's buyer's preference, I guess.
Overall, great new RockStaff Mini/Micro Lite floorplan, but I"m still waiting on the video tour of the 2024 Rockwood Mini Lite 2513S model (or the Flagstaff Micro Lite equivalent)!
Thank you for sharing!
Speaking of specs - see pinned comment
The other Mini Lite models that have 60 gallon grey tanks are 2506, 2511, 2515 and 2516.
@@breth.8667 Thanks, I quickly checked the 2509, 2513 and 2517, which are all still 30 gallons (and more my preferences), and assumed they hadn't boosted any others (especially since the 2517 is New like the 2518). Again, I wish that they'd standardize on 60-gallon gray tanks on all the Mini/Macro Lites that measure 25' 10" or 25' 11"...clearly there is space for it.
2 tanks to make 60 tho.? (bath/shower 30gal. & kitchen sink 30 gal.?) and 2 drains/hose outlets.?? Inquiring minds want to know! 🤨
Don’t mind the camp side slide but I feel its wasted with theater seats facing inside. Much rather have a booth to sit at and look out on camp.
Thank you for watching!
2:46 I'm not sure if I'm the only one, but I know I'd love to hear the more detailed reasoning behind this. There are obvious things I think most of us get like weight capacity of slides and balancing the unit for travel and things like that but when you mention things like door placement, I think it may be helpful for a deeper dive. Just a thought if you're ever looking for a topic of a deeper dive video. Thanks for all you do
Ty
Not too bad. I suppose the lounge slide could be a bit shorter if people are worried about it damaging the awning. The slide certainly makes the inside more comfortable although having the lounge fixed inside is feasible.
I like it but, I wish they could do a king bed and the cuddle compliant sofa sleeper.
👍🏻
Totally no slide is a plus! But just the closet is doable. Tow friendly is a big plus for road tripping.
Another quality Rockwood RV👍although I much prefer my kitchen and seating area overlooking “my” campsite not my neighbors, which also gives me all of that extra patio space that this slide-out takes up😊but there’s no excuse for that camp queen bed😢
Thank you Josh for your comprehensive reviews. I tend to agree with you about how the slide necessity. Perhaps they could make it half the size or as shallow as the closet slide. It will add a little more space and perhaps reduce the possibility of the slide tearing the awning while allowing more camp side space. Thanks again.
Yeah I feel like there are some opportunities there
No living room slide option would be awesome. It’s would almost be perfect.
Ty
YES! It's about time! People are always saying WE NEED CAMPSIDE WINDOWS! As for the awning... why can't they add an extra second awning on the slide if that is an issue for people?
Small awning.. big window. It may not fit? Unsure
This is, overall, a great little trailer. I prefer not to have a campside kitchen because I don't want a campside exhaust vent. And yes, I'd be replacing the shorty queen mattress with a regular queen-sized; perhaps a firm memory foam type.
Like the floor plan, little heavy on hitch weight for our capacity. Wish there will be a lighter weight version of the same.
I don’t remember the hitch weight but maybe try this m.ruclips.net/video/nNIGUUCF3Ps/видео.html
Thanks Josh For The Walk Though. I do really like This Mini lite. This will be a great replacement for my 2017 keystone bullet 220 rbi one day.
Side note: not having Living room slide is fine by me
TY Chad!
I would love to see a washer/dryer hookup in bedroom slide where shelves are and take the extra bed frame away that doesn't fit under the bed. I'm short at 5'2 and i have a really hard time finding a floorplan i like but the rockwood 2608BS was awesome as well with queen bed on a slide and no boxes beside bed to climb over.
That close slide is about half the depth a W/D prep space would need and lacks the physical ability to run plumbing thru it due to its positioning
It's an interesting idea though!
I like it, for a couple no need for a table and chairs ti eat at so no issue. I do like the extra space the slide offers.
Ty!
Beautiful camper, I'm ready to trade mine in...I really want this one!! This is the perfect couples camper for us.
We are ready when you are! You can reach our team at www.bishs.com/contact-us
very doable to me... nice looking rig. love that suspension system for a small trailer....as always safe travels.
Thanks, you too!
Fantastic video showcasing this model! I really appreciate this. I just saw this model at a local dealer's website and the floor plan interested me. I'm at that point where I have a paid off half ton truck, low miles and don't really want another truck payment, especially with how crazy truck prices got a few years back. Also, interest rates suck now as well. This seems to be something I could enjoy on longer trips as a solo traveler, but still seems to have a livable functional floor plan. The only concern I would have is the single AC and no 50amp, eliminating a second AC option.
As it turns out, they just do not currently offer 50 amp and second air on these, but it like the idea
I'd be happy if they'd keep the small closet slide but get rid of the huge awning-eating slide out in the living space.
Thanks again for your video productions, Josh. I like the 2518s is well rounded.
Regarding your question on a slideless living room area; very intetesting idea. Only drawback I might see is kid and pet factor for space. That few extra square fwet can be gold.
Great balanced kitchen as well.
TY so much for watching and sharing a little kindness!
Hi @JoshtheRVNerd thanks for the video on this new "Rockstaff" model. Did you happen to notice if it has one gray/black outlet or a gray/black AND a 2nd gray "kitchen sink" outlet to make the 60 gallon gray holding tank spec? Looks like I see 2 drains at 15:15 into the video? Am not a fan of 2 drains/hoses. (The camp side slide is an "undesirable" also, but not a "deal-breaker").
Apologies if I didn't point it out, then I am not certain
Your 2619 empty weight is 3000 lbs off. It's 5619 according to Forrest River.
This is another very nice variation in the Rockwood MiniLite collection. We love our 2023 2205S
I caught that too. But I look to make sure no one else has posted a correction so I don't have to.
See pinned comment. Ty
We never had an awning on our last trailer. So I'm not sure how often we'd use it. We're used to sitting around the fire pit all night.
Arrgh - Theater seat not cuddle compliant. Why do they do that? That is a big no-no. Do people actually ask for non-movable arm rests? And yes, I'd consider a no slide version. It'd be lighter and we'd have much less worry about slide issues and recover the outside area. Nice big pass-through!
Either it’s due to this being a proto or perhaps due to slide size
Yes ….. no living slide is ok with me. We can’t use while traveling anyway and we like to have lunch while traveling. Would be nice to have a place to sit
👍🏻 ty
would like to see plugs in the pass thru and or on the campside of it...very nice I would get all the options possible on this
Oooh that's a great idea
This is so close to perfect. Thanks Josh.
my pleasure
I absolutely would like to see a no slide unit with this floor plan... Josh, thank you for all that you do!
My pleasure! TY for watching :)
Yes no slide would be awesome! Couch no dinette and still have awning coverage
OK Josh, in my time RV videos are at the number one and your channel is number one now that being said I just saw a thing on another like 10 best pick up truck campers and they make some for the Ford freaking ranger and the Chevy Colorado are you guys gonna start displaying something like that for us with smaller trucks? I think they’re in a good range $30-$40,000 or so not bad but is that something that is just exclusively in Brazil and Germany Switzerland and Other countries, and.not in America 😊 also, on this particular camper, I recommend people getting a microfiber beach towel and wrapping that TV before they start frying their eggs, spam or anything else that has a sizzle to it and that oven is Cornish game hen approved😂😂😂😂
Man I'm not sure I've even had the chance to cover 10 truck campers... but I like the idea
Big Booty Rudy or a big booty Judy! You had me and the wife on the floor laughing! 😂😂😂👍🏼
lol :)
As the owner of an 2021 Imagine 22RBE, I was interested to see what Rockwood was offering. I've always thought well of Rockwood's quality. So here's my thoughts on the 2518S. Bedroom: I prefer the Imagine. The extra slide isn't needed. Neither is the front glass, which I personally strongly dislike! I prefer the bedroom setup in the Imagine much better. Especially the full queen bed. Kitchen/living: Again, I prefer the Imagine, especially the large amount of drawer space. Also, I prefer the TV location and the window placement. Bathroom: 3 out of 3, I prefer the Imagine's layout. Having experienced the triple glass shower door, I enjoy the simplicity of the Imagine. The triple glass was always a maintenance headache for me to tend too. The vanity is hands down better, except the miniscule lavatory sink, and feels so spacious. Storage is definitely not an issue, either. Exterior: I like the Rockwood slide system. I also like the entrance steps and the grill location. The factory hitch is a plus, and are the Max Air covers. The exterior advantages, however, would not sway me away from the Imagine's interior advantages. Thanks for another great video, Josh! Come to the Longview, Texas location!
Greatly appreciate the time you spent writing this up and your perspective as an actual woner.
It's not an accident Imagines are intensely popular
I love this layout however I'm with you, omit the campside slide leave the closet slide and life is good!
I like the kitchen like that from the entry, and proximity to bed.
I am not a fan of pop outs on camping side
Ty Sara!
Man! If it was a bit longer and had a small dinette or table as well….. I would install an awning on the camp side slide, and a smaller awning from the door to the front of the rig.
Hello Josh!
Thought I'd post here; As far as features on this model, I like most....but I have to admit that the living room slide is on the wrong side for the type of camping our family does.....we tend to be outside more and use the patio area for having chairs and tables under the awning space....I was thinking that Rockwood has a similar, more traditional floorplan (2516S?), with the slide on the opposite side....overall though, I think this model will attract some buyers! Great video with features and benefits as always! All the Best! ~Lou
TY Lou! It's definitely not for everyone :)
I really like this layout.
I like how good the kitchen is in that size
would like to see a no slide version. I'm ok with bedroom slide as is since it has nice closet type storage.
Needs the theater seating slide, because , when you kick out the foot rests on the seats ,will take up needed space.
This would be great as a no-slide model. Even with a 2-person dinette I would seriously consider it.
Awesome ty
Josh, I have always liked Rock/Staff. They are well built. I like this floor plan however, your idea about no slide out on the camp side of the trailer sounds good too.
TY Jim! :)
I loved wardrobe slide, but I would like to see no slide at all in main area. This trailer answers all my needs for storage, bathroom window, kitchen on hookup side. My modification to it would be removal of sliding door in bedroom, sofa gone and replaced with bar/coffee counter with storage and hide-an-office custom build. This should get weights down. What is MSRP on this one?
Apologies I’m not in sales and don’t have pricing files. We keep pricing for anything in stock on our website and our folks at www.bishs.com/contact-us can assist with anything not currently on hand
This is EARLY access footage so its possible Wei don’t yet have these on hand or on our site
Love this!! Please noted the empty should be 5,619.
Yes TY. Please see pinned comment. My fat fingers struck again
Informative. Entertaining. Funny. What more could you want? When the time comes I’m only buying from Bish’s!
Wow.. TY for the kind words!
Nice layout. Very similar to the Grande Design 22RBE which I think is a better unit. The wife really likes that bedroom closet slide though!
TY. Another RBE owner basically echoed your sentiments
I really like the floorplan. Be great for a couple.
The TV that close to the stove top even if it was what we were looking for that would be a huge issue!
I brought up the 2511S and found myself wishing they'd blend the two. I love the TV suspended over countertop rather than a dedicated entertainment center. Ironically, my wife did not like it so we are split. Ultimately I don't like the way the slide puts the griddle and shelf for outdoor cooking in that little corner. Overall, I think it's too disruptive for the main campsite.
I actually have seem builders do what you're describing and I like it. I'm surprised its not more common
Yes - No Slides & Twin beds
Not bad. I generally don't like camp side slides because you usually end up with an awning arm next to the door, but the longer awning fixes that problelm. Def some kind of foam on top of the slide flange. As much as I love storage, I'd be willing to sacrifice the cabinets above the TV and move it up out of the way. No slide version of this depends on whether the theater seat can be fully reclined. If they made the doors of the wardrobe shorter by 6 inches or so (taking it from the bottom leaving the top in the same place), but keep the slide the same size (creating a pocket in the bottom), you could open the doors with the slide in which would be helpful for overnights or short stays when you don't want to open the slide. It would make the one side of the bed hard to get to, but doable.
yeah definitely best used all opened up but for a pinch overnight stay it can work
Finally a couples trailer with no dinette. Love it!
They have a few!
I like the kitchen from the 2517s and the bedroom from the 2518s. Wish they would splice those two.
Where are the bedrooms really different? I'm just glancing but they basically have the same closet/bed setups
@@JoshtheRVNerd the 2517s has the galley kitchen I like but it has the Murphy bed. I would rather have the bedroom from the 2518s that is a “separate” bedroom with the wardrobe slide out. The overall length would have to be extended to combine those two, I’m sure. Would be an awesome combo though.
Josh, thanks again for the video. I do like this unit. I believe I would be okay without the camp side slide. I don't like them. Other than that, I do like the unit. Thanks
Fair enough! TY
Great work as usual, Josh! Any chance of a Video on the Pinnacle FBRK? Definitely something different. Eager to get your take on it. Thanks!
Haven't seen it yet but I'm happy to try to get stuff!
We use the area underneath the awning, (pretty much our sitting area) so the slide out on the camp side would be a no go for us.
Fair
We did like your idea of no slide but have the recliners on the wall if there was enough room. Keep the slide for the closet in the front.
A lot to like here but also a lot to decide if it's right for me here as well. The camp side windows are great in the video, however, you aren't looking out of them when you are sitting in the seats so there isn't much point to them since you are facing the other way. Taking up all that awning space is a deal breaker for me. The 12 volt tv, love that ability, however, it doesn't look like it would really feel like a living area with a tv as much as it looks to be you are watching tv from the outskirts of the kitchen. Personally, I would like if there was a sofa option with a center rest that moves out of the way. No dining table so "tv trays" instead. Idk, might be fun once in a while to eat that way but I would miss a table long term. I get it, no table means more space. A lot to love in the size of the camper, and how towable it probably is given its light weight, but it doesn't scream "buy me now".
Fair enough. Ty
No slide is my vote
I like it, not enough models have nice campside windows. I would def swap out the theater seats for a dinette. Roadmode is great! Do you think a larger tv would fit like 40"? Only ding i see is no pantry but seems to be enough Kitch cabinet space. BTW, do you have a measurement for the opening on the front passthru? thx
Unsure on bigger tv sizes I’m sorry
Also mfgs don’t give us compartment sizes but our local folks could measure them up for you
found it, 24 x 30@@JoshtheRVNerd
@@bikemyride 👍🏻 Ty for the update
They need to figure out how to put a slide awning on the bigger slide and that would fix the awning issue, i do think that's going to be a big problem with one side dropped down for run off. Also that awning need a center support. By the way does it have dual sewer hookups?
I cannot recall on the hookups