I was looking for a pen and tried a few and really liked the feel, comfort and flow of the OMAS Ogiva. When looking, I tried a number of pens without regard to brand. I compared the writing and price. As the reviewer stated, there is ease of writing and changing width-i use a fine nib because I like to print and am able to print quite small or large. I see the comments about the look of the nib and comparison to an OMAS before the change in ownership. Not sure the comments are from folks who have tried this pen...everyone has their own likes, I understand. For the price, this pen beats other pens in this price point and is more flexible than steel nibs in the category. Happy to use it. Not a collector just wanted a super pen to use.
Also looking forward to the Santini review. Have had two of these that were excellent pens. Wide range of 18k nibs sizes/styles available (made in-house).
Thanks for the review. Just finished watching Hemingway Jones trying out his, and he absolutely loves it. Good to note the small differences in your opinions.
Santini makes gorgeous pens and they make their own gold nibs. I have one in ebonite and plan a second soon. I have to say that this new Ogiva does not impress me very much. It seems like a pale imitation of the wonderful Ogivas of the past.
I'd love to see the nib size comparisons of the Santini Giant to other big nibbed pens like Pelikan M1000, Pilot Custom Urushi, Namiki Emperor, MB 149, etc. I saw a video of someone holding up a Santini Giant to MB 149 and Sailor King of Pen, and the Santini Giant's nib dwarfed both of them. I was confused, because I thought they were all number 8 nibs.
David, I think you gave a good synopsis of what is happening now with OMAS. Not many know of the two different websites, furthering the confusion. I think this version looks much better than the Ogiva 222. It does not look like steps were skipped. The nib though is a question. Are they using the loose stock OMAS nibs, or are these nibs brand new? They certainty have the look, but not the shape. Unfortunately, I don't see myself with this pen. I have seen the new Paragon, and am very disappointed. I am scared to see what the new 360 will look like. I think they should just let OMAS rest. I feel the true successor to OMAS is SCRIBO.
Seconded! I have the old Paragon, Ogiva and I finally bought the Iceberg 360 (circa 2000), I talked about badly wanting. I have carefully looked at, and considered the newest, revived OMAS pens. But sadly, I’m not impressed or interested enough to part with my money to buy any of them, including the pen David reviews here. I have ordered my first Scribo - a blue-black Feel with a 14k gold broad nib. Not least because, as you quite correctly said, Scribo is really the actual successor and near-reincarnation of OMAS, with those stellar nibs of yore, today.
@@sajjadhusain4146 Hey Friend, Now you have 3 OMAS pens. This time last year, I don't know if you had one. So I take it then OMAS lived up to it's reputation? Not to mention me as their hype man LOL. How does the 360 feels? I am happy you got it, and hope it brings you as much joy as it brings me - not just the 360 but all of your OMAS pens. Dare I question to them surpassing your beloved Auroras and Sailors?? You got a 14k broad??? I maybe mistaken but I think they only have an 18k broad. The 14k are their flessible nibs, and I don't think they have a broad flessible??? Anyways, hope it FEELS great LOL..
@@ironmic9244 ..Hi, buddy! I swear I did not own any OMAS a year ago. So, you remembered and called that correctly. Then, I went on a roll and bought the three OMAS pens I now own, in the space of 6-7 months. I love them all dearly. The white 360 is great. In fact almost all the colors I have seen of the 360 are extremely appealing (except a light brown/caramel one). I wanted the dark green and yellow most. But the iceberg white is swell, too. And a stellar nib, no question. I had to settle for the 18k Fine because that was what came with the pen. Yes, the 14k nib on my Scribo is a flex (flessible) nib, and to confirm, it is indeed a broad. I think I want an F, too. That would maybe greatly accentuate the flex qualities of the nib. In any case, flex apart, I’m expecting the nib to be quite sublime. And I reckon these new Italian acquisitions would only add to and enhance, not depose my longstanding favorites among my Auroras and Sailors. Btw, lest you didn’t know, Montegrappa and Stipula are very close to my heart. ❤️ I bought two more recently to add to my previous fleet of seven Stipula pens. Edit: I admit your informed and enthusiastic endorsement of and encouraging words persuaded me to go for the OMAS pens - especially the iceberg 360.
I was curious both about this pen and the revived brand. You've explained the brand as best as I've heard. I'll admit the pen did not excite me. I have an Omas Ogiva Cocktail and like it very much. This new pen just doesn't excite me.
Good review as always, David. I have to say I'm not impressed with the new Ogiva, especially the orange finish of the one reviewed. I've never liked translucent pens because I consider them to be a company's way of skimping on the exterior finish. Granted, the new Ogiva has a 14K gold nib and is a piston filler. Historically, Omas pens were high quality and expensive to very expensive in price. On the secondary market, you can buy an older, second hand Ogiva for roughly the same price or slightly more as the new Ogiva. The quality of older Omas pens is the reason why they still fetch good prices on the secondary market. I'd much rather have an older Ogiva in good condition.
I feel bad for new people who may have heard of OMAS, and think this has anything to do with it. As David mentioned, the nib was not like an OMAS nib. What will that do - it will drag down OMAS reputation. I praise OMAS nibs to the heavens. If this nib does not live up to that hype, it puts OMAS and even my words in a bad light.
@@ironmic9244 I bought one from the DC pen show. I have to say it is a good price point for $360 and I like the fine nib a lot. A little stiffer than my old Omas nib on the Acro bronze. Much better piston and ring build than old ones. Quality of the old pens are questionable to say at least.
Really looking forward to the review on the Santini. I've been looking at those lately and have heard good things. I was wondering mostly about how good their flex nibs are and how they compare to Scribo.
Santini is my next frontier to conquer, hopefully before the year ends. I’ve been very keen on getting one for than year already. I’m getting my Scribo Feel in a few days. And I had once briefly been tempted to buy a Leonardo, but not anymore. I’ve already had a record year (2023) in terms of pen buying expenses. Eight very expensive pens already. And a Santini still to buy. OMAS and Stipula,mainly, have burned a hole in my pocket this year. Not the slightest regret, whatsoever.
@@sajjadhusain4146 Right now I am tempted to get my first Scribo flex. It's between that or getting 2 pens I also want. I don't own a Sailor and want one of those with a 21K nib and the other is a Leonardo Momento Zero grande. I have a Furore Grande, two regular sized Furores, and a Magico. All of which I adore. I can get those two pens for the price of the Scribo. So I'm trying to decide.
I still think there's no reason to buy an Omas for the sake of buying "an Omas" right now. This seems like a way to profit from a glorious past while having very little to do with it. Obviously, if you like the pens in themselves, it makes sense to purchase one.
I have an original Ogival ballpoint. I think I may consider the fountain pen from the revived Omas. Is it true that Nahvalur is a financial backer for the new Omas?
I came back to torture myself and rewatch this. The pen is the torturous part, not Figboot. I've been reading the comments, and when a lot of comments are more interested in another pen to be reviewed that says a lot.
I’m waiting for @Ironmic to weigh in on this one. I confess I find the Omas, Nahvalur, Scribo claims of ownership confusing and rather silly. If one were to be keeping an eye out for one of the original Omas pens, for what might one want to look in terms of model, nibs, price, and authenticity? Thanks for the review. After everything I’ve heard from @IronMic, I’ll interested to see what happens with this incarnation of Omas.
I'm not a fan of this nib's geometry, tipping's shaping that looks so drastically different from the previous 'new omas 222' despite being the same medium, how the ebonite juts out from the sharp shape on certain angle; everything on the nib parts look a little unrefined, that I feel like hazarding a guess that its Nahvalur's 14k nib I think from a quick glance, original Omas nibs are always much slenderer, tubular and longer than other common nibs, perhaps refer to Scribo's nib shapes since they might be more available for quick look, since original Omas seem to come out once in a blue moon
Hi Ruth, The ownership question is also confusing to me, and I have asked around, and around from the US to Italy. This Ogiva looks far and away better than the 222. It has a distinction of OMAS that the 222 did not have. I still won't buy it though. I still do not consider this OMAS. They can call it that, they can use the same celluloids (though not on this pen), they can use the same nibs. It is not an OMAS, and the fact that there are two different OMAS websites only furthers my belief. I feel sorry for anyone who looks to this pen for that OMAS experience. I mean seriously, how can you have two different OMAS websites? As to how to distinguish between an original OMAS and this Omas (notice how I intentionally used lowercase letters - I am not trying to be mean about it), there are certain things to look out for. 1. The Greek key is smaller and tighter on the original than on this. 2. The design of the key is different. 3. There is something odd about the nib on this new one. OMAS nibs were more slender, except for when they made a switch to Bock, and went away from the Parker arrow design. But it could be a much older nib. 4. The dead give away will be the packaging. When in doubt the packaging will give it away as to an original OMAS or this whatever this is Omas.
ScriBo have never claimed to own OMAS, in fact they have made it very clear that while came out of OMAS and have OMAS DNA (and the nib and feed making machines) they are a new company with their own products. The big issue is O-Luxe, who owned OMAS, sold the world wide branding (including model names) to Ancora.
@@dapprman Which is very confusing as to how Navahular is distributing them? Even if they have the US distribution, I've seen them pop up on some European retailers. I can't understand how this is working. Say good night folks - OMAS is dead.
the messages and information about the restart of Omas are very vague. At the launch of the Omas Ogiva 222 I was stunned at first and wanted to buy it, but something stopped me, I didn't trust it. Your review confirms that a bit, the finish is not perfect and that for such a high price. I searched a little further to find out what is correct about Omas and ended up on the USPTO website. Turns out that Ancora Pens is the official owner of the Omas trademark in many countries including USA and Italy. To have a pen that writes closest to the old Omas, we will have to buy a Scribo.
Thanks for watching. You might want to check the USPTO site again. I had verified it myself and it It does indeed show an active US trademark for Unibrands (the parent company of both OMAS and Nahvalur) (tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4803:vyre9l.2.3)
@@FigbootonPens always happy to watch your video's :-) But no matter who has the rights to the Omas brand, neither of them will not be able to produce the real Omas pens again. Unfortunately.
Hello, good afternoon from Spain. I have been a follower of your channel for a long time. I congratulate. I know that you have had a relationship with Andres Pizarro, who had a RUclips channel about books and fountain pens. That channel has disappeared without the author having given any explanation. Do you know if Andres is okay or has something happened to him? Many of us who followed his channel do not understand what could have happened. Thank you for your attention. greetings
I think putting that Santini Giant in the measurement comparison will cause a lot of people to lose interest in the Omas Ogiva! 🤣🤣🤣
If you want a pen that has the Omas name on it, buy this pen. If you want a pen that writes like the original Omas pens, buy a Scribo.
True story!
Say that again.
Probably true . I like those juicy scribo pens . Nevertheless , the first new Omas is quite good also . Mine has no problems.
@@geroldatlarge1841 They do look beautiful. Maybe they will develop their own soft semi-flexible nib like the Scribo ones.
I was looking for a pen and tried a few and really liked the feel, comfort and flow of the OMAS Ogiva. When looking, I tried a number of pens without regard to brand. I compared the writing and price. As the reviewer stated, there is ease of writing and changing width-i use a fine nib because I like to print and am able to print quite small or large. I see the comments about the look of the nib and comparison to an OMAS before the change in ownership. Not sure the comments are from folks who have tried this pen...everyone has their own likes, I understand. For the price, this pen beats other pens in this price point and is more flexible than steel nibs in the category. Happy to use it. Not a collector just wanted a super pen to use.
Wake up girlies, new Figboot video!
The arrow design will forever remain a beautiful nib stamping, it's just a shame that it's not on Scribo's nibs.
Also looking forward to the Santini review. Have had two of these that were excellent pens. Wide range of 18k nibs sizes/styles available (made in-house).
Thanks for showing this pen. I am still not sure about the revival of OMAS. But I will not judge - I have not held a "new" OMAS in my hands yet.
Thanks for the review. Just finished watching Hemingway Jones trying out his, and he absolutely loves it. Good to note the small differences in your opinions.
Santini makes gorgeous pens and they make their own gold nibs. I have one in ebonite and plan a second soon. I have to say that this new Ogiva does not impress me very much. It seems like a pale imitation of the wonderful Ogivas of the past.
I'd love to see the nib size comparisons of the Santini Giant to other big nibbed pens like Pelikan M1000, Pilot Custom Urushi, Namiki Emperor, MB 149, etc. I saw a video of someone holding up a Santini Giant to MB 149 and Sailor King of Pen, and the Santini Giant's nib dwarfed both of them. I was confused, because I thought they were all number 8 nibs.
Thank you for the review!
David, I think you gave a good synopsis of what is happening now with OMAS. Not many know of the two different websites, furthering the confusion. I think this version looks much better than the Ogiva 222. It does not look like steps were skipped. The nib though is a question. Are they using the loose stock OMAS nibs, or are these nibs brand new? They certainty have the look, but not the shape. Unfortunately, I don't see myself with this pen. I have seen the new Paragon, and am very disappointed. I am scared to see what the new 360 will look like. I think they should just let OMAS rest. I feel the true successor to OMAS is SCRIBO.
Seconded! I have the old Paragon, Ogiva and I finally bought the Iceberg 360 (circa 2000), I talked about badly wanting. I have carefully looked at, and considered the newest, revived OMAS pens. But sadly, I’m not impressed or interested enough to part with my money to buy any of them, including the pen David reviews here.
I have ordered my first Scribo - a blue-black Feel with a 14k gold broad nib. Not least because, as you quite correctly said, Scribo is really the actual successor and near-reincarnation of OMAS, with those stellar nibs of yore, today.
The Ogiva 222 used NOS OMAS nibs, but not this pen. These nibs are new.
@@sajjadhusain4146 Hey Friend, Now you have 3 OMAS pens. This time last year, I don't know if you had one. So I take it then OMAS lived up to it's reputation? Not to mention me as their hype man LOL. How does the 360 feels? I am happy you got it, and hope it brings you as much joy as it brings me - not just the 360 but all of your OMAS pens. Dare I question to them surpassing your beloved Auroras and Sailors?? You got a 14k broad??? I maybe mistaken but I think they only have an 18k broad. The 14k are their flessible nibs, and I don't think they have a broad flessible??? Anyways, hope it FEELS great LOL..
@@FigbootonPens Okay. Thanks David. They did look a little off.
@@ironmic9244 ..Hi, buddy! I swear I did not own any OMAS a year ago. So, you remembered and called that correctly. Then, I went on a roll and bought the three OMAS pens I now own, in the space of 6-7 months. I love them all dearly. The white 360 is great. In fact almost all the colors I have seen of the 360 are extremely appealing (except a light brown/caramel one). I wanted the dark green and yellow most. But the iceberg white is swell, too. And a stellar nib, no question. I had to settle for the 18k Fine because that was what came with the pen.
Yes, the 14k nib on my Scribo is a flex (flessible) nib, and to confirm, it is indeed a broad. I think I want an F, too. That would maybe greatly accentuate the flex qualities of the nib. In any case, flex apart, I’m expecting the nib to be quite sublime.
And I reckon these new Italian acquisitions would only add to and enhance, not depose my longstanding favorites among my Auroras and Sailors. Btw, lest you didn’t know, Montegrappa and Stipula are very close to my heart. ❤️
I bought two more recently to add to my previous fleet of seven Stipula pens.
Edit: I admit your informed and enthusiastic endorsement of and encouraging words persuaded me to go for the OMAS pens - especially the iceberg 360.
I was curious both about this pen and the revived brand. You've explained the brand as best as I've heard. I'll admit the pen did not excite me. I have an Omas Ogiva Cocktail and like it very much. This new pen just doesn't excite me.
Good review as always, David. I have to say I'm not impressed with the new Ogiva, especially the orange finish of the one reviewed. I've never liked translucent pens because I consider them to be a company's way of skimping on the exterior finish. Granted, the new Ogiva has a 14K gold nib and is a piston filler. Historically, Omas pens were high quality and expensive to very expensive in price. On the secondary market, you can buy an older, second hand Ogiva for roughly the same price or slightly more as the new Ogiva. The quality of older Omas pens is the reason why they still fetch good prices on the secondary market. I'd much rather have an older Ogiva in good condition.
I feel bad for new people who may have heard of OMAS, and think this has anything to do with it. As David mentioned, the nib was not like an OMAS nib. What will that do - it will drag down OMAS reputation. I praise OMAS nibs to the heavens. If this nib does not live up to that hype, it puts OMAS and even my words in a bad light.
@@ironmic9244 I bought one from the DC pen show. I have to say it is a good price point for $360 and I like the fine nib a lot. A little stiffer than my old Omas nib on the Acro bronze. Much better piston and ring build than old ones. Quality of the old pens are questionable to say at least.
Really looking forward to the review on the Santini. I've been looking at those lately and have heard good things. I was wondering mostly about how good their flex nibs are and how they compare to Scribo.
So am I. My Santini is very nice. But I have an architect nib on mine. Their service is really second to none.
@@ironmic9244 Have you ever tried a flex nib of theirs?
Santini is my next frontier to conquer, hopefully before the year ends. I’ve been very keen on getting one for than year already. I’m getting my Scribo Feel in a few days. And I had once briefly been tempted to buy a Leonardo, but not anymore. I’ve already had a record year (2023) in terms of pen buying expenses. Eight very expensive pens already. And a Santini still to buy. OMAS and Stipula,mainly, have burned a hole in my pocket this year. Not the slightest regret, whatsoever.
@@sajjadhusain4146 Right now I am tempted to get my first Scribo flex. It's between that or getting 2 pens I also want. I don't own a Sailor and want one of those with a 21K nib and the other is a Leonardo Momento Zero grande. I have a Furore Grande, two regular sized Furores, and a Magico. All of which I adore. I can get those two pens for the price of the Scribo. So I'm trying to decide.
I still think there's no reason to buy an Omas for the sake of buying "an Omas" right now.
This seems like a way to profit from a glorious past while having very little to do with it.
Obviously, if you like the pens in themselves, it makes sense to purchase one.
The worst part is that newbies impression of OMAS will be this pen. This can only bring down it's reputation.
nice pen. Good video
I have an original Ogival ballpoint. I think I may consider the fountain pen from the revived Omas.
Is it true that Nahvalur is a financial backer for the new Omas?
Nahvalur and the new OMAS have the same parent company.
I came back to torture myself and rewatch this. The pen is the torturous part, not Figboot. I've been reading the comments, and when a lot of comments are more interested in another pen to be reviewed that says a lot.
I’m waiting for @Ironmic to weigh in on this one.
I confess I find the Omas, Nahvalur, Scribo claims of ownership confusing and rather silly.
If one were to be keeping an eye out for one of the original Omas pens, for what might one want to look in terms of model, nibs, price, and authenticity?
Thanks for the review. After everything I’ve heard from @IronMic, I’ll interested to see what happens with this incarnation of Omas.
I'm not a fan of this nib's geometry, tipping's shaping that looks so drastically different from the previous 'new omas 222' despite being the same medium, how the ebonite juts out from the sharp shape on certain angle; everything on the nib parts look a little unrefined, that I feel like hazarding a guess that its Nahvalur's 14k nib
I think from a quick glance, original Omas nibs are always much slenderer, tubular and longer than other common nibs, perhaps refer to Scribo's nib shapes since they might be more available for quick look, since original Omas seem to come out once in a blue moon
Hi Ruth, The ownership question is also confusing to me, and I have asked around, and around from the US to Italy.
This Ogiva looks far and away better than the 222. It has a distinction of OMAS that the 222 did not have. I still won't buy it though. I still do not consider this OMAS. They can call it that, they can use the same celluloids (though not on this pen), they can use the same nibs. It is not an OMAS, and the fact that there are two different OMAS websites only furthers my belief.
I feel sorry for anyone who looks to this pen for that OMAS experience. I mean seriously, how can you have two different OMAS websites?
As to how to distinguish between an original OMAS and this Omas (notice how I intentionally used lowercase letters - I am not trying to be mean about it), there are certain things to look out for. 1. The Greek key is smaller and tighter on the original than on this. 2. The design of the key is different. 3. There is something odd about the nib on this new one. OMAS nibs were more slender, except for when they made a switch to Bock, and went away from the Parker arrow design. But it could be a much older nib. 4. The dead give away will be the packaging. When in doubt the packaging will give it away as to an original OMAS or this whatever this is Omas.
ScriBo have never claimed to own OMAS, in fact they have made it very clear that while came out of OMAS and have OMAS DNA (and the nib and feed making machines) they are a new company with their own products. The big issue is O-Luxe, who owned OMAS, sold the world wide branding (including model names) to Ancora.
@@dapprman Which is very confusing as to how Navahular is distributing them? Even if they have the US distribution, I've seen them pop up on some European retailers. I can't understand how this is working. Say good night folks - OMAS is dead.
the messages and information about the restart of Omas are very vague. At the launch of the Omas Ogiva 222 I was stunned at first and wanted to buy it, but something stopped me, I didn't trust it. Your review confirms that a bit, the finish is not perfect and that for such a high price. I searched a little further to find out what is correct about Omas and ended up on the USPTO website. Turns out that Ancora Pens is the official owner of the Omas trademark in many countries including USA and Italy. To have a pen that writes closest to the old Omas, we will have to buy a Scribo.
Thanks for watching. You might want to check the USPTO site again. I had verified it myself and it It does indeed show an active US trademark for Unibrands (the parent company of both OMAS and Nahvalur) (tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4803:vyre9l.2.3)
@@FigbootonPens always happy to watch your video's :-) But no matter who has the rights to the Omas brand, neither of them will not be able to produce the real Omas pens again. Unfortunately.
@patrick9310 that is an understandable sentiment.
@@patrick9310 Ancora is not going to be producing OMAS pens unless they can somehow capture the soul of OMAS.
Hello, good afternoon from Spain.
I have been a follower of your channel for a long time. I congratulate.
I know that you have had a relationship with Andres Pizarro, who had a RUclips channel about books and fountain pens.
That channel has disappeared without the author having given any explanation.
Do you know if Andres is okay or has something happened to him? Many of us who followed his channel do not understand what could have happened.
Thank you for your attention.
greetings
I believe Andres is doing fine. It is my understanding he wanted to take a break from RUclips for a while.