Shield Shifting - Universal Ultimate Tech

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  • Опубликовано: 13 дек 2023
  • It was brought to my attention that ‪@JforJonas‬ posted Shield Shifting on twitter with Link boomerang in 2020! Go subscribe to his channel! He has a ton of really good videos on ult tech!
    Day 3 of Techmas is here! Get my merch here: spif.space/gimr
    In Smash Ultimate, when you move your shield around it shifts your hurtbox. If you buffer this in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, the full hurtbox shift happens in 1 frame. You can also use this to avoid getting grabbed OOS / make parrying multi-hits easier. Shield Shifting has a lot of unique applications!
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    Final Edit by GimR
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    00:55 - Tech Preview
    02:07 - Context
    02:19 - Shout outs Shanoa
    02:27 - Shield Shifting Explanation
    04:37 - Character Specific Examples
    05:22 - Funny ROB thing
    05:38 - Parrying Multhits
    05:59 - Turn on Notifications ty!
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Комментарии • 226

  • @GimR
    @GimR  6 месяцев назад +69

    It was brought to my attention that youtube.com/@JforJonas posted shield shifting on twitter with link boomerang in 2020! Go subscribe to his channel! He has a ton of really good videos on ult tech!

    • @Aatugo
      @Aatugo 6 месяцев назад +1

      I had to sub for multiple reasons!
      1. The intro was epic.
      2. Info was straight to the point and descriptive!
      3. The back to the lab again from Dexter!
      4. You gave some credit of where it came from!
      Speaks numbers on you as an individual and character. Subbed and notifications on dude. Thanks.

    • @m47musix
      @m47musix 6 месяцев назад

      wait till they find out you can sdi with your own multihits

  • @ShanoaSSB
    @ShanoaSSB 6 месяцев назад +415

    Whoa, I didn't expect to get jumpscared by myself in this video LOL
    Excited to see more people potentially abusing this, lots of interesting ideas shown here that I need to look into making use of too 🤔

    • @bobatea4732
      @bobatea4732 6 месяцев назад +8

      thanks for the idea!

    • @NemSumeragi
      @NemSumeragi 6 месяцев назад +4

      Shanoa Jump Scare

  • @Tomfoolery_Inc.
    @Tomfoolery_Inc. 6 месяцев назад +472

    this feels like one of those things that we could’ve known from day one but simply missed out on somehow 😂

    • @AbjectPermanence
      @AbjectPermanence 6 месяцев назад +50

      Shield shifting has been known since day 1. This video isn't describing a new discovery, it's explaining how this thing we always knew about might be more useful than we realize.

    • @aisuiro.cellist
      @aisuiro.cellist 6 месяцев назад +21

      @@AbjectPermanencesure shield shifting has been known but no one has been using it in this way for this purpose so it might as well be a new discovery lol

    • @Creepo_J
      @Creepo_J 6 месяцев назад +5

      Bringing deeper awareness to stuff we already know and why it matters

    • @Saskaruto16
      @Saskaruto16 6 месяцев назад +2

      People who played other smash games know a lot of this stuff, it's just both that there are a lot of new players with Ult and that things like this are very character dependent. I would assume most character specialists at high level know this kind of thing about their characters, it's just the average player might not.

    • @HaramLobo
      @HaramLobo 6 месяцев назад +4

      It is not a new discovery using in that way. I’m a Link main and people on Link discord already did this 3 years ago.

  • @vvlaze
    @vvlaze 6 месяцев назад +159

    Man, shielding with two buttons is seeming pretty useful but will definitely take a hot second to get used to.

    • @liquidmiilk7764
      @liquidmiilk7764 6 месяцев назад +6

      Or shield and b

    • @tyler94flynn
      @tyler94flynn 6 месяцев назад +5

      That's still shielding with two buttons lmao

    • @gapplssb
      @gapplssb 6 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@tyler94flynn much easier than shielding with both triggers, oof.

    • @liquidmiilk7764
      @liquidmiilk7764 6 месяцев назад +1

      @glhf5525 oh yeah 🤣

    • @wits_end.
      @wits_end. 6 месяцев назад

      I already made ZL and L both as shield. So this is will be a big boon for me. But for gamecube controller users.. oof.

  • @juwanpeace37
    @juwanpeace37 6 месяцев назад +5

    The fact that rob is so big that instead of shifting away he has to push enemies away is hilarious.

  • @JforJonas
    @JforJonas 6 месяцев назад +26

    This is extremely useful for Link as his boomerang practically autospaces the move for him. I made a video on it on Twitter 3 years ago and has been implemented by several strong Link players already. One thing I mentioned in that video is how you can option select optimal DI if they have quick enough OoS. A great example is Link vs. G&W where an unspaced boomerang -> shield shift away lets you avoid grab and make you avoid any follow-up if they go for an Up B.
    Loving this series so far. Looking forward to the next episode!

  • @jaybee3960
    @jaybee3960 6 месяцев назад +5

    for any of the Melee heads, this works in Melee too you just buffer the shield tilt without holding both triggers (rolls don't buffer in that game) it can make Marth impossible to grab for some characters

  • @danielsmith5032
    @danielsmith5032 6 месяцев назад +34

    I didn't know Diddy Kong's forward smash was so beautifully animated too!

    • @Nekotaku_TV
      @Nekotaku_TV 6 месяцев назад

      Haha, so many good animations in Smash, slowing down all of them is amazing.

  • @im_Spade_
    @im_Spade_ 6 месяцев назад +61

    This actually seems....really useful. Especially since I main Yink and those options were pointed out right to me 👀

  • @Tonjit41
    @Tonjit41 6 месяцев назад +13

    Shout outs to the long lost soldier, ShanoaSSB. What a chad.

  • @catandfishfc
    @catandfishfc 6 месяцев назад +152

    It's Minecart into down-air

    • @robezharvey8475
      @robezharvey8475 6 месяцев назад +13

      god no please

    • @dogyX3
      @dogyX3 6 месяцев назад +5

      Wait, Steve can shield shift?

    • @slamkam07
      @slamkam07 6 месяцев назад +1

      Who cares. No one wants to play against him or watch people play him.

    • @CommentPositionInformer
      @CommentPositionInformer 6 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@slamkam07
      As it turns out, you don't have a choice.

    • @CommentPositionInformer
      @CommentPositionInformer 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@dogyX3
      I would be really surprised if he did, given his "animations".

  • @spackmoose6002
    @spackmoose6002 6 месяцев назад +25

    This seems pretty big, ngl. I'll try to incorporate this into my play

  • @unclen2479
    @unclen2479 6 месяцев назад +66

    Techmas once again not disappointing. Great work Gimr

  • @Baguetteling
    @Baguetteling 6 месяцев назад +2

    Good thing Donkey Kong's able to DSC Up-B every move shown in the beginning!

  • @Shmicah1235
    @Shmicah1235 6 месяцев назад +14

    This is actually super cool, insanely simple, and seems really damn effective

  • @GimR
    @GimR  6 месяцев назад +59

    Thanks for watching, see ya tomorrow for Day 4! Get ya merch here: spif.space/gimr

    • @robezharvey8475
      @robezharvey8475 6 месяцев назад

      Godspeed🫡

    • @omnomgamer8633
      @omnomgamer8633 6 месяцев назад +1

      I AM DEVASTATED. there is exactly 1 character in the game that cannot do this. my main, YOSHI.

    • @franztunda9566
      @franztunda9566 6 месяцев назад

      You should stop busy bragging, it's starting to sound too pathetic...

  • @olbluelips
    @olbluelips 6 месяцев назад +9

    Ahh I never realized that shield tilting shifts your hurtbox, but it makes sense! Buffering it to dodge a grab is a crazy bait

  • @wits_end.
    @wits_end. 6 месяцев назад +2

    This is so good wth. I hate getting shield grabbed when going on the offense. I am definetely utilizing this. Unpunished point blank boomerang is crazy. Thanks GiMR👏👏👏

  • @theunderlord5034
    @theunderlord5034 6 месяцев назад +16

    If only this tech worked on pac-man's grab 💀

    • @Spyder-Marth
      @Spyder-Marth 6 месяцев назад +3

      The Pac is Maning up

    • @vvlaze
      @vvlaze 6 месяцев назад +1

      Pac God perserveres

  • @venture2056
    @venture2056 6 месяцев назад +39

    awesome! glad you're helping make this be more widely known. @JforJonas did a video on Link shield shifting after boomerang a while ago, but don't think too many people know about this tech generally.

    • @GimR
      @GimR  6 месяцев назад +24

      yeah someone just pointed it out to be on twitter. Just gave him a shout out!

    • @JforJonas
      @JforJonas 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@GimR And thanks a lot for that! A pinned comment or link in the description would also be awesome as I go into even more benefits from this tech as well.

  • @FallenKiwiCFP
    @FallenKiwiCFP 6 месяцев назад +2

    I think this is the most interesting tech seen in Techmas, because in my opinion it can lead to realistic situations outside competitive, like playing with your cousin and surprising them with this tech because it isn't even that hard

  • @MichaelBond
    @MichaelBond 6 месяцев назад +22

    I always noticed you could move your shield around in all the Smash games, but never knew if it actually did anything.

    • @SSJPENGUIN
      @SSJPENGUIN 6 месяцев назад +9

      In melee it's really important because it's easier to get shield poked
      but I'm really surprised to see how significant it can be in Ultimate!!!

    • @Choochinc
      @Choochinc 6 месяцев назад +8

      It's meant as a way to prevent shield poking. Just because you have a shield up, doesn't mean you can't still be hit. If your foot is outside of your shield bubble, and your opponent hits your foot without hitting your shield, it will count as a hit. Shield shifting would allow you to move your shield to cover your foot to prevent that scenario. This was super important in Melee when many characters had terrible shields that left large parts of their bodies exposed.

    • @leaffinite3828
      @leaffinite3828 6 месяцев назад +10

      Its used for shield pokes BUT also shifting your sheild to allow an approaching aerial to hit it earlier will allow you to exit shield stun and react sooner

  • @Carlisho
    @Carlisho 6 месяцев назад +1

    This one seems like it could be one of the most impactful things to this game’s competitive scene and its just one of the short videos 😂

    • @wits_end.
      @wits_end. 6 месяцев назад

      simple yet effective👌

  • @morganbruno3252
    @morganbruno3252 6 месяцев назад +4

    I may have found another variation of this, that being holding the opposite direction during a move so your character turns around. Roy, for example, seems to benefit more from this as his feet move out of the way and his shield hold doesn’t shift him much.

    • @d.s.alcoda
      @d.s.alcoda 6 месяцев назад

      I think that does add one frame of turnaround before your shield comes out, so technically 1 frame less safe
      But probably still worth it for many chars, especially if you have a good bair OOS

  • @atari_hmb
    @atari_hmb 6 месяцев назад +2

    This is what I was hoping for Gimr. I talked about how melee always wanted to evolve their game. You came just in time and I appreciate you providing new applications for players on how they can mix up some of the neutral game and additional interactions. Thanks for your contribution to the community

  • @inediblemangoes7797
    @inediblemangoes7797 6 месяцев назад

    This was sick. Really enjoying the series!

  • @mweepbeep1128
    @mweepbeep1128 6 месяцев назад +94

    Let's see what we get today, thank you Gimr for providing these, I think that this is a great way to add depth to the game and make it in some cases better for everyone. Unless it has anything to do with Steve.

    • @AcidArmy_
      @AcidArmy_ 6 месяцев назад +1

      😐

    • @Hack--rz1io
      @Hack--rz1io 6 месяцев назад

      This stech works with almost everyone but Steve lol

    • @igirjei3717
      @igirjei3717 6 месяцев назад +2

      Little did he know lmao

    • @james4401-
      @james4401- 6 месяцев назад

      @@igirjei3717What happened?

  • @8CanadianBacon9
    @8CanadianBacon9 6 месяцев назад

    Simple yet so incredibly effective. Thank you for showing off this tech

  • @dextra_24703
    @dextra_24703 6 месяцев назад +2

    So now we have DI before getting hit, that's crazy.

  • @dieblauebedrohung
    @dieblauebedrohung 6 месяцев назад +1

    This will definitely elevate my barely safe Little Mac Attacks!

  • @PrestoJacobson
    @PrestoJacobson 6 месяцев назад

    Really useful, thank you; and kinda combos into your Parry Shifting video at the end!!

  • @despa2336
    @despa2336 6 месяцев назад +4

    crazy that we're beating paper with rock lol

    • @igirjei3717
      @igirjei3717 6 месяцев назад

      Wow that's really great lmao

  • @beckettc6027
    @beckettc6027 6 месяцев назад

    Love this video!

  • @scronchlad2197
    @scronchlad2197 6 месяцев назад +1

    "Some characters move very little, and others move A LOT"
    And then there's Mr. Game and Watch.

  • @Typ3_alpha
    @Typ3_alpha 6 месяцев назад +3

    wait, this is nuts

  • @Ed_AlphA
    @Ed_AlphA 6 месяцев назад +2

    You can do this against falcon's side b to make it way less safe on shield and shield grab it everytime

  • @zombiebomb8523
    @zombiebomb8523 6 месяцев назад

    GimR coming back with that juicy mix of entertainment and viability

  • @itsaname7448
    @itsaname7448 6 месяцев назад

    This is great for Kazuya, thank you

  • @SpVwn6
    @SpVwn6 6 месяцев назад +4

    Meanwhile yoshi is just an egg lmao

  • @bboyposeidondw
    @bboyposeidondw 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for finding this shit out because it happens so often just playing alone!!! It’s crazy how many grabs you miss when you right in somebody’s face

  • @proballa27
    @proballa27 6 месяцев назад +2

    this one's cool! not meta breaking but a nice little optimization, there's really no reason not to implement it in situations where you would shield anyways

  • @supple_hotdog8264
    @supple_hotdog8264 6 месяцев назад

    This feels legitimately useful

  • @tohitarmorclass0846
    @tohitarmorclass0846 6 месяцев назад

    It's so obvious it's incredible this hasnt been explored more by this point.
    I remember playing with jiggling shields early in the game and it just kind of got forgotten about

  • @mitchelvivatson947
    @mitchelvivatson947 6 месяцев назад

    Thats the best so far

  • @rawnchie
    @rawnchie 6 месяцев назад

    I don't play anymore but watching the new tech is still neat ❤

  • @jebstuart3162
    @jebstuart3162 6 месяцев назад

    I love the ad at the beginning, it's a perfect parody

  • @SSAndroid
    @SSAndroid 6 месяцев назад +3

    Shift’s about to hit the fans
    Finally an interesting reason to use shield shifting. “Safe on shield”s back on the menu for many

  • @JDL4
    @JDL4 6 месяцев назад

    The GIMZ always WINZ

  • @cameronwarttig1732
    @cameronwarttig1732 6 месяцев назад

    Might use this

  • @bruh-qx1qi
    @bruh-qx1qi 6 месяцев назад

    This will definitely be useful with lots of practice. I know a lot of people like to argue that tech isnt that important in this game and while that may be somewhat true you can’t deny this is gonna be pretty useful

  • @FirstLast-mn4re
    @FirstLast-mn4re 6 месяцев назад +2

    "Universal" Yoshi mains on suicide watch.

  • @johnlucas1624
    @johnlucas1624 6 месяцев назад

    This is super interesting! I could see this getting lots of use very quickly. Great work GimZ

  • @dodge2206
    @dodge2206 6 месяцев назад

    Teachmas actually making me better

  • @TheMasterLinkT
    @TheMasterLinkT 6 месяцев назад +2

    a hoodie in the shower is diabolical

  • @theargawalathing
    @theargawalathing 6 месяцев назад

    Definitely gonna have to rework my controls to optimize all these shield techs

  • @ThereIsNoSpoon678
    @ThereIsNoSpoon678 6 месяцев назад

    This literally looks like magic.
    Like, when someone goes “no way that hit!!” But if you know the actual janky size of that specific hit box, then it’s understandable.
    Now… you could be in a ditto match, be both shielding at the same time, take turns grabbing, and only one actually works.

  • @restindev
    @restindev 6 месяцев назад +3

    Grimey, I kinda like it though

  • @planetary-rendez-vous
    @planetary-rendez-vous 6 месяцев назад +2

    This is absolutely broken... You could hug your opponent and aggressively pressure them. Match-up dependent though.

  • @Devion702
    @Devion702 6 месяцев назад

    This is cool !!

  • @hecdudeh2o969
    @hecdudeh2o969 6 месяцев назад

    ooh i like this one

  • @konniem.6709
    @konniem.6709 6 месяцев назад +1

    that's actually huge

  • @Moist_E
    @Moist_E 6 месяцев назад

    He's giving out ALL OUR SECRETS FUHHH

  • @Third_
    @Third_ 6 месяцев назад +1

    I love that as a very new player, I am astonished by the fact I didnt know you could double shield to shift it around, and as a G&W main Im completely exasperated that this really means nothing for my main. God why am I doing this to myself I should really pick a different character aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

  • @oscarcalles4117
    @oscarcalles4117 6 месяцев назад +1

    Tweek watching this for sure

  • @Nekotaku_TV
    @Nekotaku_TV 6 месяцев назад

    I'll never be good enough to do one frame stuff. Ultimate still has so much we haven't learned about yet, just like with every Smash.

    • @PrestoJacobson
      @PrestoJacobson 6 месяцев назад

      But you can do this. Holding 2 shield buttons so you don't roll or spotdodge, (when you're done attacking or whatever) and hold direction (like left in the video) to shift that way.
      Buffered after your attack, etc.

    • @Nekotaku_TV
      @Nekotaku_TV 6 месяцев назад

      @@PrestoJacobson I don't understand the buffer system.

  • @mcrsmash8319
    @mcrsmash8319 6 месяцев назад

    Ok this one might actually change the meta

  • @Junr_7
    @Junr_7 6 месяцев назад +1

    So good for gnw

  • @Syper7
    @Syper7 6 месяцев назад +1

    I always thought I was grabbing the shield

  • @georgethegreat3114
    @georgethegreat3114 6 месяцев назад

    thanks esam

  • @rodo2220
    @rodo2220 6 месяцев назад

    this is cool

  • @outsideboxer1448
    @outsideboxer1448 6 месяцев назад +1

    LMFAO the beginning is a banger

  • @aisuiro.cellist
    @aisuiro.cellist 6 месяцев назад +3

    How good is Palutena’s hurtbox shifting during this? I want to practice it because she relies a lot on falling aerials and if she could do them even safer on shield that would be incredible

  • @Lampaluile
    @Lampaluile 6 месяцев назад

    Good way to get shieldpoked too !

  • @citizenofhyrule
    @citizenofhyrule 6 месяцев назад

    yoo christmas indeed, this is tech i can handle on my level of play

  • @leafofufo3264
    @leafofufo3264 6 месяцев назад +1

    I’ve been doing this for over a year… why did you tell them!?!?!
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @jackwei7785
    @jackwei7785 6 месяцев назад +1

    Can we do aerials into shield shifting? In the video, Gimr only shows grounded moves into shield shifting.

  • @musketg2774
    @musketg2774 6 месяцев назад

    I wonder if this is going to be disproportionally helpful to those with tether grabs, as they can use it to their benefit but largely ignore it if used against them

  • @aidenzorn8322
    @aidenzorn8322 6 месяцев назад +2

    As a fox enjoyer with a bowser main friend, 1:24 was all too familiar to me

  • @DarkThomy
    @DarkThomy 6 месяцев назад

    The real Christmas present isnt the techs coming each day, it's discovering if it could actually apply to your poor low/mid tiers main..!

  • @kalarse
    @kalarse 6 месяцев назад +2

    Yoshi mains in shambles (?)

    • @wits_end.
      @wits_end. 6 месяцев назад +1

      Yoshi mains never get shield poked. That's the big benefit of his shield. Also, Yoshi's fmash already pulls back so far to avoid hits. You can just jab 1 into fsmash.

  • @danielsmith5032
    @danielsmith5032 6 месяцев назад

    Well now that's cool.

  • @Takujaki
    @Takujaki 6 месяцев назад +2

    Most shieldgrabs are 10 frames, so a -9 frame move on shield is now safe?

  • @AndreBabani
    @AndreBabani 6 месяцев назад +1

    this is just head movement in boxing

  • @andrewkennedy8129
    @andrewkennedy8129 6 месяцев назад

    this isn’t game changing to me at least but this is another whiff punish option that adds more depth to the game very cool!

  • @BezarBone
    @BezarBone 6 месяцев назад +1

    hopefully it helps with pichu and those giant ears

  • @kabey8
    @kabey8 6 месяцев назад +1

    Does Yoshi shield shift? Like his shield does not shift, but does he shift inside the egg ?
    Cauz, they might have implemented an animation for the egg and disabled the poke, but I am curious about the character inside the egg

  • @Il_Dilettante
    @Il_Dilettante 6 месяцев назад +2

    watching this as if i don't play yoshi

  • @j.prt.979
    @j.prt.979 6 месяцев назад

    Pretty good tip

  • @Connell843
    @Connell843 6 месяцев назад +1

    Please, a sweatshirt with a slightly bigger logo 🙏

  • @Bayx92
    @Bayx92 6 месяцев назад

    Yink buffs let's go

  • @zakali7006
    @zakali7006 6 месяцев назад +1

    *Crys in yoshi😢

  • @FedualCandy19
    @FedualCandy19 6 месяцев назад +2

    3ero
    Espero que la siguiente tech este mas buena que la anterior 👍🏻

  • @user-fy1sf7rr9t
    @user-fy1sf7rr9t 6 месяцев назад +1

    bad day to main yoshi

  • @cristobalgonzalez324
    @cristobalgonzalez324 6 месяцев назад

    Hmmmm, maybe I could try this with Mario aerials, considering bair it's the most used on neutral

  • @connerl4874
    @connerl4874 6 месяцев назад

    Looks at Hero frame data... good tech

  • @Xxblade17
    @Xxblade17 6 месяцев назад

    Yuhh

  • @FerousFolly
    @FerousFolly 6 месяцев назад +1

    Finally, a nerf to shielding

  • @okWishFull
    @okWishFull 6 месяцев назад +1

    I wish I knew this sooner! I hate shield grabbers.

  • @yexolth
    @yexolth 6 месяцев назад

    My pt thanks you😂 squirtle gonna go stupid off this.

  • @kleyo9179
    @kleyo9179 6 месяцев назад +1

    *cries in Yoshi 😭