The Truth About Yoongi, Jim Jones, Coronavirus, & Black Lives Matter | BTS News Suga Agust D2 Sample
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13:03 I had to cut this part out due to copyright, but here’s the Bring the Soul movie clip of Yoongi mixing the Jim Jones sample twitter.com/smiexokaisoo/status/1266572877316399112?s=20
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its funny how armies act like they know each member in BTS personally
"they would never do that"
"they didn't know"
we DON'T know how they think, feel, or act behind screens ok
Por detrás eles debocham dos outros e se acham melhores.
I'm so disgusted by this fandom. They made me think the wrong thing and defend his actions. I should have trusted myself as a poc. This is disturbing
I’m sorry they manipulated you into changing your mind. If it was on twt, I deleted my account from there because it’s a toxic shit hole.
The half of the fandoms that don't call out their idols or educate their idols make me sick. Like humans are gonna do shit like this, they should respect it and call them out on this bullshit. I don't care if they "didn't mean it" or "weren't educated", thats the reason people should step in. I'm still an ARMY but I hold them accountable for their bullshit. Like the fandom is disgusting as fuck, the ones that defend them without being the offended audience, without understanding, and attacking people without realizing what they did was wrong. It sickens me that those type's of people are within some K-pop fandoms, but it's just like that I guess. They need to realize the world isn't perfect, and neither are BTS. Or any idol, or person, for that matter. People do dumb shit and they need to be called out, held responsible, and educated more on what they did. As a Black & Native American person, I am highly hurt by their actions and I hold them to it. I really wish they would apologize.
@@mssarray
This thing truly disturbs me
Its like putting a sample of H1tler on your mixtape or other disgusting piece of crap like Manson or any other thing that hurt other communities
I put myself in black community shoes and its amazing to me how people try to downplay this issue
My country was tortured for decades so i can understand even more, if someone would do that to me, i would slap them so hard
ughh
when the situation came up I was so broken, the time when protests started I was basically disconnected from anything kpop. So many black armys including myself were demanding an apology and an explanation. But non black armys started saying that we were throwing him under the bus and not respecting his "artistic freedom". They constantly made the same dumb excuses of how he used it to seem "badass" or "clap back at Jim jones". They were calling us antis and basically reporting us and stuff. Before the whole removal of the piece and the apology, I came up with two choices depending on how they responded. If he didn't explain himself and apologize, not only would I leave the fandom but I would stop supporting them altogether and If he does, I will still be wary but at least I knew where his mind was at. That whole month was exhausting for so many of us and the fact that other armys started shows racist behavior drove some of us to surround ourselves with other black armys only and to be honest it'll be hard to say we forgive them at all. But still their apology sounded damn stupid
It was absolutely awful 😞 with that and everything that happened with blm, it was the catalyst for me stepping away from Kpop tbh. I literally cried for 3 days with the Jim Jones bs- stanning a boyband should never be that hard!
what disappoints me the most is people going out of their ways to defend him and telling black people how they should feel.
this^^^
Armies have always said "oh yoongi always produces his own music but when this situation came out, all of a sudden they claim he doesn't make his own music and he doesn't know about jim Jones, then when people called them out they started saying "oh he was dissing jim Jones🙄. They even tried to say jim Jones was a anti korean too.They literally switched the story so many times and always try to cover up there idols wrong doing especially by saying "they didn't know" "the company did it" its really annoying 😒 smh
We trusted you. Gave almost everything for you. Stayed up late at night to get you success. Stood by you against the unfair prejudice against you. Truly *loved* you never having met. We made you our safe space, our small corner free from the world and its horrors. Believing you we were free of all stress, all pain, all insecurities, yet you came to be all the above and worse. We strived just for you, only for the love and trust we gave whole-heartedly
*to be simply ripped apart like it meant nothing*
this hurts.
A thirteen year old shouldn't have to worry about her favorite group doing stupid things like this it doesn't make any sense im probably gonna have to leave the fandom cause this is to much stress it just keeps coming back and back and back
You know ...
The fact that we are younger than them but can see it’s wrong and they older than us but just don’t seem to know what’s right and wrong or they know what they doing is astronomical ,they don’t take accountability for their wrong doings and do it all again when they should have learned from their past mistakes 😔😔😔😐
As someone who was born in Guyana and grew up with the horror stories of Jim Jones, this disgusted me to no ends when I first heard the track.
Being a huge BTS stan, this hurts. Yoongi was wrong to use the sample and the least he could have done is actually apologized instead of bighit actively trying to shift the blame. And the people trying to defend yoongi should stop being so blind...it's the people's right to demand an explanation and apology if nothing else
I'm a new army and a Yoongi stan. Your videos really open my eyes.
I was close to putting bts to a pedestal but I encountered your content. Thank you for this.
Wow... all that you said... that makes two of us.
Same here.
Same
this is sad..
Idk why people are SOOOO obsessed with defending them like tf. They are adults and should be accountable for everything they’ve done wrong (which are a LOT of things) stop defending them as if your life depends on it and stop telling the people who are offended to stop being offended. Like wut.
_"Considering Armies have a track record of lying to deflect from controversies"_ ✨
_"this would not be the first time BTS used another group of people's TRAGEDY for their_ own AESTHETIC purposes"_ ✨
*THE TEAAAA !!!* 🍵🍵🍵
so I am white and when the jones sample surfaced and i saw people speaking up about it, mainly black armies, i believed them obviously and emailed bighit, and most of the fandom made me feel like shit (now i am in no way saying my feeling like shit compares to anything black people feel about the situation) for speaking up about it. I feel it is my duty to speak up about these things especially because i am white. I remember that night i was researching jones like hell because armies were saying he was anti korean but like i literally read the same article you showed in this video and many more and he literally loved koreans. To be honest until i watched this video, sometimes i still doubted that i did the right thing because it seemed that everywhere i looked people were defending bh and yoongi and calling anyone who didn't support them an anti. I'm really glad i found this video and I hope many more people watch it.
A korean rapper using JJ to boast about his fame and wealth is NOT the same as a black rapper using JJ to talk about racial issues that affect them, like I saw that “thread” a while ago and it was so full of lies 😭
I am repetitively getting hurt each time I click on one of theses videos, BTS keeps disappointing me.
Yeah the sad truth 😣
Same💔
During this time, I had to take a long break from Twitter because everything was so messed up. I can't believe non black ppl were invalidating black ppl feelings and were saying we were throwing him under the bus. I honestly didn't know what to think at the time because everything was so overwhelming along with the protests. I don't think I have seen the fandom the same way as before from then
I actually cancelled them when they released their blm statement. The most driest, inauthentic, all lives matter statement I've ever seen.
Damn... i actually believed the thread that said Jim Jones was anti-korean. Im so glad I came across this video
i wonder how long will kpop entertainment companies and artists keep using the excuse "we didn't know"
i just really wish we could hold people accountable. i love yoongi with all my heart, but this is dead wrong, no matter what. even if he didn’t mean it to be offensive, or he was unaware of how bad it was, it’s still disgusting. also, do you still stan bts? this is just a question, no malicious intent, i just saw a few of your videos on my recommendations
Thank god I found this channel, I never realized the fucked up things bts have done until you shared them. Army’s hid it so well and they even said they apologized even though the only one who did was RM.
Girl namjoon didn't apologize honey army have fooled you
@@gigigotmelikeohh1302 I was about to say this💀
BTS is my favorite kpop group but they are NOT exempt from being called out for their mistakes.
fact this incident took place in my parents country, it makes me disappoint in yoongi in general ... I can not look at him same way after this incident
Okay as a black person who was born in George Town Guyana, and heard about Jim Jones from my grandpa, I am deeply hurt and feel very disrespected but at the same time I'm not surprised 😓
STOP👏 DEFENDING 👏THEM👏.
It's getting hard to find a reason to stay in kpop now. Things like this keeps on repeating when there are ways to solve it.
Fandoms will forever have toxicity, it’s sad but unfortunately true. Let’s educate ourselves and stop retaliating for bad things being called out. Racism is a deep rooted problem that can’t be fixed by fancams and everyone waiting to exhale.
I want those people to actually go protest and actually do something about discrimination ,not doing performative activism.
Tbh covid 19 was a blessed time for me personally too. I was close to suicide and unable to finish school but quarantine gave me time to keep going and heal without facing others. HOWEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know in the long run it's a real disaster for everyone me included. I will not just look over the people who died, lost their livelihood etc.
Hope you are doing well
The way white army reacted to this was cult like behavior
Like they were questioning the fans loyalty to yoongi and BTS and attacking the people who spoke against them. That’s what they usually do in cults.
(I’m army and i really love bts music but that response was shit)
Bro why did the pr stunt literally have to involve the three main groups that I stan 👀
😭😭😭 the way I’m so tired 🤦🏾♀️
Adeola Ash literally
This video really opened my eyes. It’s incredibly shocking what some army’s are capable of to protect the boys, even when the boys are in the wrong.
fr armys just pick and choose at this point
Thank you so much for taking time to make this video containing such topic even while those challanging times seem to have no end. I'm really sorry that Black people have to endure this shit even at a place that was supposed to be a distraction and a source of enjoyment. If you don't mind, I'd like to share a few thoughts, as a person that recently got into BTS, but is as trying to be as reasonable as possible. It is so overwhelming, BTS as a product with a huge company behind and interntional fans has power to shift numerous narratives that have been going on in both South Korea and K-pop, such as racism, yet they don't find themselves powerful enough to do so or whatever, instead they avoid such topics or just talk things people would like to hear, not too outstanding or proggressive, but giving an impression that they do something. And donations are great, RM's speech on UN is great, but is that all they can do? What is it going to take for them to realise that the fans shouldn't be utilised as just naive money-givers but recognised as people to some of which BTS are role models? It pisses me off how they (and I mean the whole BTS brand) allow fans to defend them and excuse them without reason, and to spread racism, as long as they throw money at them. And I used to be amazed by how BTS are grateful to their fans and how much they say they appreciate and love them, but isn't it just talking to keep army as engaged as possible to get them to give BTS the money? I don't know, on the other hand SK is that type of country where doing something against a certain social norm is totally not acceptable and can ruin lives (I also live in a similar type of country and it seriously is tough). Also, do you think that, at this point, the "incidents" like this let's-deny-everything-even-though-there's-evidence shit with Yoongi, numerous, repeating cases of appropriation of Black culture and other, most recent stuff are done because these grown men, that have access to various resources, are ignorant, racist or just unaware?
Tbh I don’t think they’ll ever check the fandom because this delusional connection to the boys is what pays BTS’s bills. BTS used to make controversial songs about political issues but they’ve moved away from that since. I think they’re aiming for more consumable, light content at this point. As for Yoongi, I honestly think he didn’t feel it would be a big deal. He probably thought it was great for the aesthetic he was going for. There isn’t anyone from the outside world like a friend etc to change their perspective (I’m assuming). I honestly feel like they just don’t think what we complain about is a big deal- and I mean that for all of Kpop bc they all keep messing up big time.
I originally had no opinion on BTS, I had stopped listening to Kpop in middle school, but this just all seems kind of icky to learn as an outsider. Supporting a movement for Black Libration to gain and maintain social capital to me is worst than saying nothing. Originally the donation was cool and all but knowing what preceded it is upsetting, ugh I was not expecting to get emotionally drawn in lol. I hope their tweets and donations manifest into actually learning not for BTS and groups but for the individual members (and stans/ fans). Hope this hasn't sucked out the joy you receive from them. Love the vids
What worries me is how people aren't aware of their Aggression towards telling Black People how they should feel.
Also, as human beings, I feel like we should consider how we should phrase our words better to not cause controversy and offend other people.
It's all about how you were raised and what you were exposed to as a child.
The most funny thing is I’ve never heard of this being an army since 2015 and bts being my ultimate , this seriously opened my eyes to see how fans can cover shit up.
This is the reason why I left K-pop Stan world, K-pop artists still keep on disrespecting and mocking other Culture especially Black Culture and people
i’m yoongi biased and always supported him and respected all of his works/decisions but this is completely unacceptable. i can’t believe there are really armies who kept defending him. you shouldn’t defend this. he should’ve made a statement himself and he should’ve apologized. actually, even an apology can’t fix this. i’m not black so i can’t really emphasize with their pov but if there’s a black army who stopped supporting bts, they actually have every right to do so. i hope all the armies who defended him would understand what they did was really wrong. (which i think will never happen but one can hope) i still love him and support him in other areas but i’ll never support this. this is just all wrong.
omg i had never heard of jim jones and when i did my research i kept getting told he was anti korean???!! why- what was the point of lying. it was acc so disgusting how racist twitter was that day.
Damn I didn’t even know other army’s were protecting I thought we all agreed that including a quote from a mass murderer and cult leader was a terrible and disrespectful thing to do
You know what make it worse about "what do you think?"
Suga said wdyt is a trap. "When there is cockroaches in your house, you trap them with pesticide" (He said it in his live)
So its his thoughts about JJ victims :(
Eso es perturbador 😬
Yall I’m so disappointed especially how non black armies were trying to down town or silence black armies opinions
Yikes. This is so eye opening I had no idea.
I’m an Army and honestly this fandom is to much, (toxic fans/stans) is the reason!
I'll be frank kpop isn't getting any better mainly because the majority of the fans won't let their favs be wrong and get held accountable. I got into kpop late 2016 early 2017 but have since grown further and further away from it, as a black woman the amount of racism in kpop/khiphop is disgusting and hasn't gotten any better as international as bts is they still pull crap like this. I've honestly lost hope for kpop it was nice while it lasted, I thought I found a nice escape all those years ago but the racism/ignorance/appropriation is too much its not even something hidden or old. I would have loved for this to work out but like everything else it was to good to be true, as a poc you always have that hope that another group of poc would have your back or at the very least prove a safer space but it always falls through and I'm tired.
I’m black and I stanned bts when this whole thing happened. Sadly my delusions made me defend yoongi and believe all the lies that armys made to defend him without doing research. I was just looking for any reason to believe that he wasn’t racist or problematic. Thank God I’m not delusional anymore
13:47 - The "we will try to do better next time" line in I-Army's email is funny, sad and very pathetic.
It's hard being a BTS stan and black.
I am speechless.... Yoongi is a mature person and i really don't get why he needed to use JJ speech in song.... Thats just stupid 😐.....
I am just exhausted.... I think i need a need a break
Bts has done insensitive thing over and over again to make their music feel edgy...I also remember the nazi flag and the holocaust photoshoots sheesh
No longer a bts fan can’t defend people that don’t want to change
I am leaving army. Not because I hate bts but because I am a human being who believes in socialism and everything regarding bts is totally confusing me. I quit.
I was so sick and disgusted that I was UGHH IM SO HAPPY IM FREE you don’t know how glad I am to finally be free from K Pop this is so I weightlifting thanks
This breaks my heart...like foreal. Truth hurts though. I needed to hear it
Your channel is a real eye opener. Thank you!
At the time that this happened, I wasn't really active in the BTS fandom, so I didn't knew about D-2 in general, but after reading some tweets months later of some people talking about this and watching a video of a (for what i understood) former black army talking about how this was really hurtful and she felt really sensitive about it; I grew curious because i deadass never heard of what happened. I saw shocked when I read about the use of the Jim Jones speach but i was even more uneasy when I realized how many people tried to make it look like it wasn't as bad as the media or black people said it was, or that it wasn't bad at all (like those people that said that Yoongi had creative liberty and could do as he wanted with his music). It's just full on stupid to try to justify the use of a literal sect leader in a song about dissing haters, I also felt so mad when I read the apology, they could have just said "this is wrong, we knowingly used this speach and we apologize for it, it shouldn't have been used in the song and we, both Big Hit and Min Yoongi, take responsibility for not been sensitive enough about this person, his actions and the consequences that they carried", it was just unprofessional and a petty excuse to say that "they didn't know who he was" and that "Yoongi was not responsible for it" when he alwasy talks about how he himself writes and produces everything in his mixtapes. The donation was fine but the reason as to why they did it and advertised it is just shit. I felt really bad of calling myself and army at that time when i realized the poor treatment of black armys in the fandom and how they were being silenced about a topic that tehy had all the rights to talk about.
The first thing that came to my mind when I saw the idol music video ,why the dance looks like the gwara gwara from sa. I'm from South Africa. Love your
This just hurts me. When all this happened I didn't know about Jim jones and I feel embarrassed for defending yoongi. I love him and the boys but this is a big issue that was not addressed nor handled properly. I'm poc and I apologies to black armys. I hope the boys can learn and grow from these mistakes and avoid them. I don't want to have to feel this way. I don't want to tarnish what they mean to me because they've been the source of my healing and confort and happiness in mh life. I truly hope this never happens again.
After this video I definitely have to distance myself from bts specifically. This may sound sad but I don’t think I am unstanning completely but I can say that I won’t ever look at them in the same light.
The Jim jones one was the last string for me i unstaned bts after this support them but I can’t listen to their music after this I’m literally disgusted 🤢
Wow kinda ironic that this all kinda mirrors cult like behavior with toxic fans similar to cult followers. Like these extreme fans with such undying love, loyalty, and devotion to their idols who they view as like perfect angels who can never do wrong. Defending them against anything like lying & trying to rewrite history even when there's proof and evidence against their arguments. And also how they go after and attack those who speak against or point out wrong doings of their idols. They cyber bully, harass, threaten etc these people to ruin and distress them.
I don't know much about this specific cult but a lot of that matches how the Scientology cult is(but obviously not as bad as Scientology) with followers believing their leader is like a God and to never question him but blindly follow him. And go after those who speak out or badly about Scientology, which is much worse if course like on a whole other level
idk how i should feel about this vid. It was great, all your points were right and all. Why would they put a cult leader in the song. But the thing is, when yoongi makes the music, he wouldnt be like " oh nice lets put a murderer in this song". If he would be really racist, he wouldnt do it so obvious. Like no one would put a cult leader in a song and think it would be a good idea.
I think it had its reasons, but i dont think he really would be like "nice lets be obvious racist"
In my opinion with Yoongi, I believe he probably thought it would be cool and received well. He’s always going for a dark/edgy vibe. He just went way too far this time
call out your faves when it needs to be done, tbh this hurt me I'm so tired and done this has been going on for YEARS and no because i do love and trust them but seriously like I know they are not dumb
the comments under the song upload.....honestly disgusting...Its okay if people were at-least acknowledging what was wrong, but to just disregard everything--
Tbh it'll take a while for me to recover from this or to be able to listen to any bts for a good while :'') Thankyou so much for making this video.
7:21 wearing ankara suits...i'm done
I'm having trouble reconciling myself with BTS's racist issues with a peppering of sociopathy. Why couldn't they be better people? Ugh. I hate it here.
Im an army... im not black by race... im an indian but im definitely black by my skin tone and there is definitely discrimination against us in the country i live in now...tbh nit just the jim jones things but literally everything is controversial. WHY CANT THEY JUST KEEP LIFE SIMPLE
Indian and black aren't the same thing its racist to say that just because u have brown skin u live the same as black people
If you have dark skin but are still asian/Indian you are not black and not facing racism but you are facing colorism. Pls do not compare our struggles as black people/African Americans with yours a non black person. it is not the same and it’s quite hurtful. You can’t be black by skin tone. Black is a race and many of us come in different shades and shape. Your dark skin does not make you black.
@@wheresmymelody9093 exactly
Thank you so much for making tis video! When this was all happening, it was so confusing trying to figure out what was actually true. I did just want to point out that Jim Jones (and other americans in general) adopting children from foreign countries often means nothing to what they think of the people from said foreign country. Unfortunately a lot of Americans adopt babies from foreign countries to feed their white savior complex.
Black People, Support those who support y'all and aren't into performative activism.
Honestly the more I learn abt bts the more I hate them as individuals. Don’t get me wrong they’re amazing entertainers but when it comes down to their moralistic values, they’re no better than those guys on 4chan. Seriously appalled, but glad to have been enlightened of this behaviour I was not previously aware of. Can’t wait to earn a heap of money on old merch now 🤑
I guess your video should be on every army's recommendation..thank God im out of army stuff😊
I still love Yoongi's music. I respect him as an artist. But in all honesty, if I met him and new him personally, I doubt I'd like him. Despite loving bts and their music, I fucking hate their silence. I hate this fandom. Every where I go, I see homophobic and racist "ARMY's". I fucking hate it. I probably wouldn't like many of the members personally. I still have love for all of them, I really do. Part of me knows that they were born in South Korea of all places, which isn't the most friendly towards BIPOC, but at this point, Yoongi seems down right insensitive and like he refuses to educate himself. Namjoon educated himself, and has a long way to go. None of the members are perfect, but at least the majority of them are actually sensitive to other people's issues once educated. I feel like Yoongi gave no fucks. I usually love his "idgaf" attitude. But this? No. Just....no. Fuck that. Each member has pissed me off to some extent. Sometimes, I'm lenient with what they did years ago. But this shit is RECENT! I LITERALLY HAVE THIS MAN'S POSTERS ALL AROUND MY ROOM, AND I FEEL COMPELED TO RIP THEM TO SHREDS!!! I love being an ARMY. I love BTS. But y'all are so fucking slow to check them on their colorism not only to others, but to EACH OTHER. Not to mention their disrespect to certain races. It fucking pisses me off. A lot of celebrities don't give a fuck about us (BIPOC). And they most likely never will. It's our job as their fans to check their asses, not to "protect them from antis who want to defame them". Some of y'all are really that desperate to see them shirtless, huh? This fandom pisses me off, bro. Most of my personal problems have to do with the oldest three, as they're the oldest and in Korea (and almost anywhere), the older generation is the least accepting and open minded. Are they open minded? A little bit. Do they still piss me off? Hell yeah. I'm not hating on them. I just have issues with them personally. The younger ones aren't innocent, either. The only one I haven't felt disappointed in or pissed at was Taehyung, as he's pretending stayed silent when it comes to all of the other shit. And the colorism-
Tell me how they're gonna be colorist towards EACH OTHER? They act like it's all fun and games until one of them starts crying (pretty sure Taehyung cried once). Hoseok and Taehyung got the most shit for being "darker" by what? Half a shade? Bitch. They're really put here talking shit about each other? And then advocating for them being brothers? Bruh. No. Family doesn't do that. Skin color (lightness and darkness/how pale you are/etc.) is something a lot of Koreans and this in the east in general, hell, all over the world, are insecure about. You're gonna shit on your brothers about an insecurity that practically everyone has? Mother fucker, really? That's fucked up and insensitive. And we stan that even though Hoseok got a lot of shit for being 0.1 shade darker, he still made fun of the other members for tanning. Even Jungkook (and others) got worried about tanning because they didn't want to get darker. Bruh. It really fucks with me.
At this point, I have a list of which members I'd like to sock in the face, Yoongi being at the tip top. Jimin's on there, too, but that's for some other shit (like him wearing a native American headdress in a photoshoot. My culture is not your costume, Park).
Anyways. I have a lot of respect for them as artists. Music wise, I'll always admire them. But personally? I'd love to sock some of them in the jaw. Just the good old one-two. Anyways. Have a nice day. Blessed be.
I freaking love you dude 😂👏💞
Facts....and its beyond hurtful. Its life.....we "black people" have to live with it.
sis you aint said nothing but a word, and the funny thing is that after paying for this last concert that was supposed to happen I no longer monetarily support bts because they are all in their 20s and three of them getting closer to 30 since 2013 we have been dealing with this ignorant shit and quite frankly im tired of it. Yoongi was my bias too so learning about this is disappointing, plus as international fans in general we are treated like an after thought and I will no longer put my money into them or their concerts or merch
hm
I actually did not know this but thank you for speaking about this situation.
BTS was my safe space but no not anymore, they fucked up so many times and I am done with it. I am deciding if I am going to un-stan them because this is just too much. I hate them for doing all those problematic stuff yet I am still here loving them at the same time but my hatred is getting the best of me. I am sorry but it is time to leave this fandom and never look back on them... Farwell, you lost another army...
istg....if these people don't stop trying to defend their favs... I'm not gonna lie I LOVE BTS so much, but when they do bs Y all "army's" need to call it out and stop trying to defend their actions by acting like they are babies, saying they didn't know and all that bs, and I think that apology was total BS and all those BLM post coming out at once, everything seems rehearsed and I don't like that.
Y all have no idea what it's like to be black and how deeply situations affects us. I had no idea all of this was happening I personally don't follow kpop media I just listen to the music I like and enjoy it but when I see s#@* like this going on I'm not going to pretend like i didn't see it because I like the group, no it needs to be called out and seeing this makes me feel like they don't appreciate black army's all that much because everything seems so planned. I appreciate their donation I do, but due to the fact that they only started doing it because alot of people were asking them to do it and not because they saw it personally makes me wonder if it was from the heart and I'm not just talking about BTS I'm talking all kpop groups groups. A lot if these stars not just k stars have this "it doesn't affect me so it's not my problem" mentality and that is just blatant ingnorance. I STILL VERY MUCH LOVE BTS
You are just in the point! Thank you for spread these knowledge ❤❤ this opened my eyes
Wow I didn't know about jim Jones and who he is... I was confused about Twitter too... but this video makes me understand so much! Tq for explaining this now I'm going to block all the army who defend this situation...🥰
yep, trying to argue with a bunch of airheaded army on twitter is such a waste of time 😩😩😩
Why did he put that in his song? 🙄 After seeing how ARMYs react everytime something like this happens my conclusion is that BTS army is not a fandom it is a CULT. Armys are insane. They are doing everything to justify their ignorant acts just like what cult members do. They believe attacking everyone who does not support BTS when they act like morons, make them so powerful that the earth is now on their palms 😂I felt like SUGA intentionally did it to show that he has followers who is ready to do anything for him (if it was for aesthetic he could have added his own voice. Why a cult leader?). Proving my theory this fandom act like a cult.😂 I like BTS too but they are not GODs and they should not be worshipped.
And the majority of the fandom consists of fans aged between 12-17 I think. It's sad to see. They are getting wrong ideas from these kind of fandoms. Kids who depend on their parents are trying to protect their IDOLs. From where did this concept come from? 🧐
I wish this behavior could be blamed on teenagers but the majority of the people I’ve encountered defending their bs are ages 20-40
@@AdeolaAsh That's kinda scary 🙄
@@AdeolaAsh please tell me you’re lying 😭
@@lovelylanafansweetie4240
Trust me, some older people act more immature than literal kids
14:25 this was the only good thing dispatch did so far lol
I am glad they did it,because what Yoongi did was so uncalled for. Not to mention armies that harassed black community . I tried finding that speech, but oh, apparently you have to search it and i didnt find that short part,it just shows that a person who used it surely knew what it meant.
Idk why people act so dumb on purpose
All I can say is that black army's go Stan Blackswan. Best believe she won't allow them to be racist on her watch.
I recommend Yoon Mirae too
corona was a blessing FOR ME not others, i know others are hurting, dying and struggling. corona helped take a break from the tiring stuff i had to go threw back then :) but do keep in mind others are hurting and becoming poor :(
the amount of LIKES heck that fandom is so immature i wasnt an army at that time but it still is concerning how they are so quick to defend
Ummmm this shit is messed up on so many levels
Did he apologise on vlive cuz a lot of said he did? Is it true please tell me I was there and I don't remember him saying sorry to black fans. I remember the company released a statement on his behalf. Twitter army's including the black army's are just delusional.
Lmfao no he didn’t. My friends & I were actually upset because Jungkook apologized on vlive for going out to Itaewon but Yoongi was quiet about the Jim Jones sample. Anytime an army tells you a bts member has apologized for something, tell them to send you the direct link & timestamp if applicable. Don’t believe it until you see it for yourself. The only member of bts who has ever said anything in regards to cultural insensitivity was Namjoon and even he has never addressed the Black community nor Black fans directly.
You are putting a lot of things into perspective.
I regret ever supporting B*S
Anybody else watching this December 25, 2021
What I know is I have known bts for years now and been following Korean entertainment for over a decade now and with the blatant way they disrespect Black people and the way they do many insensitive things, it will be their downfall if they don't address it, it's disgusting.
this makes me mad.
I'm 15 and already so traumatized from them. I hate them so much.
Thank you for this video and all the information you've provided. I'm still learning about the whole issue, and I don't know whether yoongi knew or not, and why he did not apologise individually. But definitely, it is important to check the sources of work you use. And more importantly, bullying and doxxing is not ok. Covering up black armys and manipulating the narrative into saying that these "armys" are not supporting yoongi is definitely not the right thing to do. We, as a fandom, have to be open to criticism and really see if there is substance to it, and not just blindly support and follow. If we truly love them, we must look out for them, praise them for when they do good, but call them out when they are wrong. That is love, that is what's right. The fandom even today is nowhere close to that and it will take a lot of effort to make the community that way. But I hope we can help each other and BTS, educate each other, and continue to support one another in the best possible way.
I'm disgusted but not surprised .
They do the same to women, lgbtqia , Muslim fans, non Korean citizens and mentally ill people.
They fetishize Asian men so much to the point they think they cant do no bad and thats gross . Not to mention the audacity for performative activism. I get banned, downvoted and harassed every time i speak about it. Disgusting.
He know what he did.
He is not baby... He literally produced the whole album.. He knew it and still did it.
okay but like twt kpop is so toxic lmao so i quit and moved to instagram and tiktok heh
Yes
Instagram is toxic af
I'm a fan of BTS but I'd admit that they have wrong to and I really hate this fandom tbh
Wtf the BLM thing were a whole mess
I honestly thought it was honest until i saw this... i changed my mind
Irony, donations always seem fake to me, the only donation i believe in was Sulli one for women
disgusting wow thank you for sharing
OMG IM LITERALLY SHOCKED AS IM WATCHING THIS? LIKE I HATE MYSELF FOR DISCOVERING KPOP AND MAKING IT MY TOP FAV GENRE LIKE FUCKKKKKKK IM PISSED. THIS IS NOT OKAY AT ALL. WTF KPOP LIKE SERIOUSLY WTF.
When yoongi is ur bias/bias wrecker and u see this vid: bruh......like.....can I not have one good thing?
i hate myself now for still wanting to be in the fandom and for being so blind
It is BECAUSE we love them that it is so so important to call them out on this stuff and help to educate them. Because we know they can do better, so why shouldn't we speak up. Holding people accountable and hating on them are VERY different things. I love BTS more than anyone and that's exactly why I'm not okay with armys brushing this under the rug and gaslighting black armys & black people in general. BTS can learn to do better, Armys can learn to do better, and we need to give black armys the space to talk about this without gaslighting and speaking over them. If your friends or family did something culturally inappropriate or racist you would want to hold them accountable and educate them, let's think of our faves the same way. We can't go losing our morals just because it's BTS.💜
As someone who has no interest in k-pop beyond a very casual 'oh this song is good', I think while his comment maybe insensitive we can all relate to saying "at least this good thing came out of it" about any negative situation so that one particular situation seems kinda weak compared to the genuinely egregious acts that you talk about after. I think starting with something like that turns away the people who need to see videos like these.
According to RUclips analytics, the average view duration of this video is 6:24 minutes, so obviously the average viewer got to see the “egregious acts” you speak of. I talked about the events in the order they happen and as I showed at 3:13 Yoongi’s comment was instrumental to the general public finding out about the Jim Jones sample. If someone can’t be bothered to watch a video for 6.5 minutes or 3.25 minutes at a 2x speed, they’re obviously not my target demographic. It’s a ~19 minute long video I made under extreme duress as I was experiencing racial trauma left and right amidst the height of the Black Lives Matter movement during summer of 2020. You telling me I should’ve started with the gory stuff first for a more attention grabbing intro is hilarious considering it’s a miracle I even had the mental bandwidth left in me to make this video in the first place. Take it or leave it, I truly can’t be bothered at this point.