@@barbarawood7613 I don’t think many people ever believed that he jumped ,intentionally unaliving himself - climbing over and falling backwards whilst attempting to leave is still a possibility in my mind
This is exactly why Celebrities should NEVER talk about their Alcohol and Drug Addictions !! Liam was too open about his mental health issues and his problems with Alcohol! These people, like Roger, used Liam's struggles against him!!! It's just such an evil and cruel thing to do to Liam! Liam trusted Roger, and he betrayed him!
I agree with you…because there are always narcissistic sociopaths who will use it against you…Liam did it in good faith as he wanted to help other people….but these nasties used it to their advantage
@leecarson3426 Sometimes the pain is so overwhelming that you can't keep it in. I suspect that was the case with Liam. He wasn't talking just to talk. The pain was oozing out of him.
Roger was the enabler. Taking Liam to Argentina and not providing a duty of care he should be held accountable. If he was my son I would’ve sued him in civil court
I read somewhere that the Roger and the two hotel workers were told by the judge they may be eligible for a suspended sentence? I fear they will walk free with the corruption in Argentina
I don’t believe for 1 second Liam would jeopardise absolutely everything by taking all this stuff of his own accord, not a chance , his life was looking good , everything in plan for his career his future ……heart breaking all of this ! I still standby what I said in the beginning 100% premeditated! They should have closed the hotel and questioned every single person staff and guest right away Insist on having all cctv footage not just bits of it, surly experts can tell if footage has been tampered with! Fresh eyes needed to go through this case with a fine tooth Combe….my opinion
@jacquelinehunt7794 unfortunately this is not possible due to the inconsistencies that have been presented in the past 3 months. It doesn't make sense and thankfully people like Harsh & others Will not accept this and will keep speaking up until the truth is out
@@jacquelinehunt7794 sorry but there are 1000s upon 1000s of us who will NOT accept what has happened! Go back to the very first video Harsh recorded on the 16th/ 17th October watch them all as I think you may have missed a few, you see the lies the cover-ups the contradictions the whole thing is a mess! Plus it gives you a bit of insight on what Liam was really like …a very talented musician a proud father a guy who endlessly helps others . Yes he was in a bad place but not at the time of his demise he was putting everything in place ….his future was bright!
By his own admission he had struggled with substance abuse and mental health issues for some time. Unfortunately, those plagued by addiction can relapse at any time regardless of how "well" their life appears to be going. Addiction is a life long demon to keep on top of and it doesn't discriminate. Being surrounded by yes men & facilitators is common in this industry although addicts will make their own choices regardless.
As someone who works in pathology in the US I don’t trust that Tox report for one second. It come back far to fast. I don’t know of any Tox results that come back that quick
I agree as a nurse and those words “pink cocaine” are still being thrown about. That should have never been put out there because once it’s out everyone runs with it. Plus it’s so much in the news with the sensationalized P Diddy case.
Roger and the hotel staff are the ones that need charging with murder not the dealers.Roger is the one from Argentina with contacts to supply those drugs,Roger is the one facilitating every possible risk to Liam,the drink,drugs and high balcony in a hotel room where he was alone! Then the Hotel workers supposedly wanted Liam out of his room as was reserved for Brett (whos everywhere at all times) but yet they would not allow Liam to leave as clear evidence shows they have him in a bambi chair hold to throw him back in his room! Make it make sense atleast! Kate is not off the hook either.something is so off about the reasons for her leaving.if she weren't involved in some way shape or form morally her leaving an extremely vulnerable man with Rog and not informing his family first to make sure they were atleast aware that Liam was in a bad way is the biggest mistake she could of ever of made! 😢
The other day I was shocked to realize that most people in the general public seem to believe that Liam died because he jumped off a balcony in a drug-fueled rage.
Yes most people who have not been following assume he Jumped and was taking too many Drugs. Its useless trying to tell them that is just what they want people to believe.
I hope so too, I wish they could have sent their own UK lawyer but I guess that wasn’t allowed and he/she got them one in Argentina who I’m sure they trusted. It’s still not the same having to leave something this important to a stranger in another country known for corruption.
during autopsy, the doctors take blood samples from various parts of the body -- the heart, the arm, the leg. etc... because once your blood stops circulating, the concentrations of drgs or whatever will be different.
I still dont understand how he walked down to the lobby seemingly ok, then was carried back to his room got absolutely off his face, and went over the balcony or was murdered in such a short space of time.😢😢
It’s bad enough losing their Son can’t even begin to think how you get over or learn to live with the grief but to literally read & see PROOF how their son was treated before his life was stolen by EVERYONE that was around him how do you deal with that on top of the grief of losing your son
This makes a lot of sense to me as a human in long-term recovery with a masters in substance abuse therapy. His hygiene was poor in the Argentinian photos, he was sleeping in late, and yes-restaurant and hotel workers are the FIRST people you'd ask to score substances in a foreign place. Maybe he got kicked off again when he took pain pills after plastic surgery. That's a lot of people's entry back into their old ways because it lowers resolve, even if it's not your substance of choice. It also makes sense why he was able to drink so much and not be comatose. Makes me sad for him. Especially being in a hotel room for all of this, his identified trigger...
Hello Harsh i totally agree with you Liam could still be here today . so many different reports about what had happened to Liam? How can they say that he was trying to leave when firstly they said he had fallen ? From what I assume Liam had come to his death in his hotel room because why did he have 25 Injuries?Liam was thrown over as you had also mentioned. Normally if you fall backwards over you would land directly in that spot ? The hotel staff clean rooms every day correct? So why didn’t anyone see Liam’s bag below the 2nd floor??. The bottle laying next to Liam why didn’t it smash or his watch what happen twitch Liam’s Rolex Watch? I feel for his loved ones and his son this is such a tragedy.
Perhaps Rodger took it when he went back up to the room with Liam. He apparently asked Liam for it, however Liam refused. I believe that's when they had the fight.
As there were no (public) photographs of Liam at the CasaSur, in an intoxicated state, and if Liam had not passed, and or gone off the balcony, would the world have ever known if he had indeed “gone off the rails”. Or would it have been kept quiet? Don’t think the hotel would have “advertised” the fact that Liam had been supplied by their staff!
Honestly this is all very sad, I think deep down we all knew he has taken more drugs that it was said, but something happened and “someone “ knew it and didn’t do anything but to continued to supply him. Drug is a terrible thing, but I can’t blamed Liam ;the poor soul was bullied by many and compared to all of the other guys in the band.what he had to endured was just terrible,a human being and a fragile one can only take so much.unfortunately after this report the authorities are going to let this go ,and put it all on Liam .Flight high Liam ,and remember you were just too pure for this world. P.s he was actually the only one in that band who came across as he really loved his fans unfortunately he wasn’t mean enough; this business is made for cold hearted people, Liam wasn’t;he wore his feelings on his sleeve.
There is no defensive wounds cuz he didn't fall. He was killed and put on that patio and body arranged. There was not enough blood around his head which proves heart was not beating. The head injury properly occurred from a hit or punch and fell and hit something 🤔 the other 25 injuries occurred from a beating
Exactly 💯 💯 💯 I don't understand why no one is bringing up the 25 injuries on Liam's body!! The injuries WERE NOT FROM THE FALL. THEREFORE , it looks like Liam Payne was beaten up before he died!.
I believe that he was beaten up as well. There were no defensive wounds possibly because his hands were held back as he was beaten and his head was put through the TV. Body placed in courtyard. That's what I think.
Great analysis, as usual! I do wonder, though, if the toxicology report is true, why there is no footage of him going crazy? Whether they were trying to ruin his reputation or pin his death on him... And even more so if there was no conspiracy and he was just a guy going crazy in public... HOW is there nothing? Let's also not forget that we have NOT yet seen any video footage of Liam alive at Casa Sur AT ALL.
Liam was also informed of that - Roger may be culpable in some way but was he employed as Liams 24 hour carer - if Liam had been involuntarily sectioned under the mental health act ( agreed to by next of kin and signed by a doctor) that would also have destroyed his hopes for restarting his career
Hi watched your live from Turkey. Sad sad situation. Don’t know what to think on this anymore. However still can’t get my head around the demise that transpired so quickly Liam knowing his kidney problem surely wouldn’t want to kill himself so near to Christmas and time with Bear of which he loved. I’m not talking about off his head and falling from a stupor. I’m saying he knew his historical issues with the dangers to his kidneys, and the possibilities of life inducing injuries. Why did he look normal on some of the tik tok videos whilst in Argentina and then within 4 days whilst at the Casa Sur he suddenly takes so many substances to the detriment of life.
Why did Argentina keep Liams body for so long? If he'd have been flown back sooner, the UK could have conducted a toxicology report. One that we could have trusted. Everything is so messed up about this 😢
Kate’s airline ticket said left late 12th arrived in Florida early 13th. ……..( love to know if she asked for that 1D seat?…… and who takes photo of 2 suitcases in a car boot, taken from doorway, to post??) …… By the way did she even contact him from 13th to 16th ??
If he wasn't at the casa sur hotel (as BH thinks) where else would he have been? Why was he not spotted elsewhere i.e in the hotel that he was in with Kate until the Sunday (allegedly) or at a private residence. If he was at a private residence or another hotel and was harmed there forensics would be needed as unlikely that a severe head injury could leave no trace.
His father said to court on the 22nd of Oct that Liam had no private phone, in order to stay away from social media, that used to cause him great distress and possibility of relapsing
Tox reports usually take around 2 months to come back. Prince’s tox report took 2 months to come back. That was my first concern. Tox came back to fast. I work in pathology/autopsy.
Obviously, the Toxicology Report was FAKE! The Coroner who did the AUTOPSY on Marilyn Monroe, lied about her Cause of Death!! Marilyn did not swallow a bunch of pills! Marilyn Monroe was murdered!!
8 weeks usually in the UK, this was my experience with a family member. Like everyone else I don’t believe it was a proper tox screen, probably one of those saliva tests they can do at police stations or emergency departments.
JC Chavez worked with Liam on his song, TEARDROPS. JC said Liam was very nice and easy to work with. He didn't see any sign of drug or Alcohol abuse when he was with Liam.
If Liam was supplied from 13/ 14th onwards and with alcohol, how can Roger have missed the state he was in? Even if Liam managed to hide it a bit, surely there would’ve been evidence of drink and drug use/ paraphenalia. And was he in touch with Kate after she left . . .
Yes I commented earlier that it was said to have been broken when he punched the TV..another wild story..but I believe he was right handed and he wore the watch on his left. I would think you’d use your dominant hand to punch it
If he jumped from the balcony he would land feet first. How did he land on his back? If he smashed up his room punch a tv how does he not have wounds on his hand hence “no defensive wounds”? This whole case is one contradiction after another. Every “fact” they release the contradict it with another “fact”
It's more like 'how did he land on his back and not directly under his balcony?' Was there a significant wind burst that blew him to the left of the building? It's ridiculous..
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Very Importantly Too: I have M'sian Friends (who are currently in M'sia) who are also Completely Horrified & Utterly Saddened regarding what all has happened to Liam Payne when they first heard of/saw/read The News Of The Absolutely Tragic Passing Of Liam...= 💔😢...
@@MrsAnGeLiKa1005And this is why Brian Harvey believes that Liam was never at the Casasur. But I'm a little confused about this because everything that happened was reported there
@@SammyA1989 Brian H theory can be real...where is Liam's check-in in CasaSur? Is there any proof of IT? 👀 No fans from CasaSur only Dayana...other fans were in Hyatt
@MrsAnGeLiKa1005 Yes, true. Brian Harvey could be right because there's no photos of fans with Liam at the Casasur, and the hotel was empty, with no wedding guests, no pics of Liam checking in, etc. But I'm still confused about this because I was thinking about the screaming and loud noises in the room reported from the Casasur. This is how Liam got the 25 injuries. Someone at the Casasur heard these noises in the room as if there was heavy lifting and someone working on the room. What do you think about that? Do you think maybe this story could have been made up? Everything sounds so confusing
Im still condused with the whole thing seems rodger was the runner no matter what he did Rogers there in the back ground smirking... They r giving so much paperwork out now, if liam was unwell and going too far his MANAGER should have sought medical advice and rang an ambulance the hotel workers should have called for help. This is simply cleared up by showing the true cctv, but im sorry there aint no cctv it was all doctored i feel for his family and for what liam went through. I just cant see a young father getting into the so called state they had to man handle him, weird how when tmz showed the pic if liam he was no where near the concrete block which had been placed there. There would have been so much blood its just all a massive story a bit like mayas. Its all so dodgy 😢
Also the brown bag was planted on the balcony by one of the hotel workers and another man in the next room they waited for George payne and the security guard to go i saw the video ❤❤❤❤
Hey HARSH I just had a thought: what if they misdirected everyone with the bag on the 2nd floor and they actually took him up to 4 (Lula’s room) and did the deed there. The one place they had easy access to and no one was looking because for some reason Lula is off limits.
I have been thinking along the same lines. Also would have allowed others to set up his room to look like it did, while Liam was being 'dealt' with. It doesn't matter what way u think of it though, it's completely heartbreaking.
I thought the same thing, Roger obviously used her as a plant and she should be charged also. But she’s a very famous Argentinian singer so that’s probably why they won’t touch her.
I dont think roger will do prison time. I think people are being paid off! Even if roger nores went to prison in Argentina for a year, I would say he would have a very comfortable stay considering his contacts within Argentina.
I read the judge told Roger and the two hotel staff they may be eligible for a suspended sentence. They’re going to nail the 2 drug suppliers and put them in prison for a short time. It’s legal to use cocaine in private as long as no money charges hands. Pretty lax country I’d say.
I agree , harsh, We just can hope and pray that it all come to lite, I don’t trust anyone either. What gets me is why did Liam get into this state in the first place? Record label drops him. He looses his PR team. Maya book and bullying on line. Kate leaving. Liams mental health took a dive and he maybe got drunk and took some substances. But his death is through Roger and hotel callous treatment of a dear kind soul. Justice for Liam. All involved should go to prison. 15 year or life for premeditated murder. So if this toxicology report is true Diana the so called fan didn’t meet with Liam in a sober state. Just saying, MO folks, Great video harsh. RN needs to go to prison for at least 15 years for neglect, The hotel needs shutting down and those accused serve 5 years, Couldn’t the management think for themselves and get Liam medical attention while they stayed with him until he was safe until ambulance came, Not put him in his room, alone. Cold and callous behaviour on the part of the hotel, WERE THEY PAID to do it , by someone or someone’s??? A cover up is right . Was Liam scared of folk getting to him? Did he just get very drunk and injected with the drugs? Roger facilitating it all to ruin Liam, Was Roger paid to do this?
Good points, I didn’t realize cocaine was decriminalized in Argentina so if they had no proof that money exchanged hands then nothing they did would have been illegal. You can partake in private and share it but because of his death there might have been repercussions? No wonder that was Brian’s story he pushed so hard in the beginning. Seems like a pretty lax country to me!
Look at the videos and photos at the Hyatt hotel where he was earlier, swarms of fans right round the block! He would never go from there to Casa Sur, no high profile celeb would go there through choice it is not a high end hotel, anyone can walk in right of the street. He was never there alive or if he was it was at the end, they took him there to kill him and throw him off the balcony!
Fans would have been swarming that hotel lobby, they followed Liam everywhere. There would be so much footage of him through that glass. Doesn’t even look like the kind of hotel that a multimillionaire superstar would stay at! Boutique my ass…looks pretty basic to me.
Exactly. Hundreds of fans outside the Hyatt, the Casa Sur is not a hotel a famous celebrity would choose! Look at footage outside the Hyatt and compare to Casa Sur, it is a world away. All those fans and none at the Casa Sur? I don’t believe he was there alive or if he was it was at the end. Casa sur was the stage for his death.
@I agree 💯 it was all staged there! If he had checked into that hotel there would be footage of it. The fact that their cctv looks like it was filmed in 1989 speaks volumes too!
I agree, I read some reviews of it and they were not very good. Complaints about staff being rude and not accommodating to requests. Cleanliness was an issue, noise problems, horrible food, doesn’t sound like a place even I would want to stay in
If he had lived I could have sworn that Liam was meeting up with Louis T to collaborate and I believe that Louis and his family would’ve helped him either way it is depressing how he was treated
Maybe they were referring to Lula Miranda as the girlfriend that was around and mentioned being in the room above him. Although Grassi surely knew who she was. She’s listed as his “assistant manager“ and even requested him to be served no more alcohol, how did she known there was a reason for that? She’s a famous singer there so would be recognized I would think. Also read in her bio that she opened up for Niall at one of his concerts, she and Roger went with Kate and Liam to his while they were there.
Lula knows Simon. She was Roger's girlfriend? Or only friend or ex. Lula knows more than we think...now she and Roger want money from Liam's songs omg 🙄💰 that's crazy as hell!
Talking of falls, a lady's parachute failed to open and she lived. This was a few yrs ago and i had to google it to be sure I was correct in my thinking.
If that toxicology report from infobae is correct Liam could not have even stood up as just the alcohol levels alone are approx 5x's over the drink drive limit and a potentially fatal dose.
Over 2.5 g/L Severe intoxication, stupor with analgesia and progressive unconsciousness. Suppression of reflexes, paralysis, and hypothermia. It can result in coma. Source: Mapfre
I've unfortunately seen the photo too Harsh and completely agree with what you said about it. Also, his baseball cap is upside down, yet on the 'evidence' photo, it's the right way up. Definitely some dodgy jiggery pokery staging gone on there
Hi Harsh, missed live! Do you go through the live comments. LP arrived at Casa Sur on the 13th, LP was staying on 3rd floor and bag was on 2nd floor. This information is what we are being told. (KC flight left on the 12th) Have you seen the footage of 2 people in the room/balcony on the 18th, allegedly. Cold and bright here!
Had he passed the visa ‘interview’? If he had and this is accurate how did anyone expect him to collect the visa? Assuming he would have had to return to the embassy to collect it (which you normally have to)
I actually mapped the hotel to the embassy and it is quite close, so maybe that is why he was there. But yeah, I wondered also, he didn't seem in a state to pick it and up and risked getting it revoked.
It's an addiction, and a drug user is the only one that can really stop. They will go to no lenghts to source it. If it was a drug user in the street, no one would even talk about it. It's the dark truth about drug use, and I hope it's a wake-up call for those using it. So sad that he has lost his life, heartbreaking for any family member to loose a child from drug use. Hollywood and the music world have easy access to anything they want. Imagine your partner drank and took drugs (their choice) yet you got the blame for it!
If my partner did these things I would either bow out of the relationship having failed to be able to help OR I would be at their side no matter what... If I was also getting $35K a month from them I would also likely be more incentivised to do the right thing and that would be again to either walk away as I am simply with this person for money OR maybe I would utilise these funds to help the person I loved... UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES would I EVER leave this person I LOVE on their own in a foreign country with a person I deemed as someone very likely to pose a risk to them... Make all the excuses in the world... it is so easy to do so when it is NOT YOUR CHILD we are talking about... you have no skin in the game so you simply judge the individual and lay all the blame at their door... You may need to adjust YOU moral compass somewhat
@REALHARSH actually that's not what I meant, and I have had people in my family with major issues with drugs! I've seen the devastation it causes, and even when clean for years, it just takes a split second to use again. Yes, I have no "skin" in the game. You're right about that! I did also say it was heartbreaking for al involved. Any user can relapse at any time ,even those clean for years. I'm am not judging at all, I'm just saying everyone is blaming the girlfriend , I wonder what you would all say if she did something to herself. We are on lookers and we didn't live their life. It's sad, and I don't think for one moment thought any of this would have happened. I do have a moral cumpas. People can lie and pretend they would never touch drugs again, but they can relapse, and you could only go out for a few hours and something could happen. The drug dealers is what I get angry at, the sheer devistation it causes, and the people who sourced it for him. Drugs rob you of father's, mother's. Sisters, brothers. Friends, children, aunts and uncles, I've seen it. It's not their partners fault if they relapse. It's a devastating choice they make, and there should have been safe gaurding in place with management when she left. You can never predict when a person will start using again.
The thing is everytime someone finds another thing that doesnt make sense it seems they come out with another reasoning for that fact,almost like someone is watching channels like harsh and brian harvey and down the rabbit hole! Every single time so defo speaks cover up!! To many inconsistencies for a true story
I agree, he was alienating Liam from everyone around him. I guess even his parents had to contact him if they wanted to talk to him. There’s definitely something nefarious about that in of itself.
He had work in the future he was going to get back into writing songs in partnership with Louis Tomlinson. The show he was going to do was finding bew bands and would have been in direct opposition to Slyman Cowbells show so he had a future without his record deal or management.
Very interesting point! If you had a choice to watch SlyCow build a band or gorgeous talented Liam, who would it be! Liam would have been amazing at this, gutted we might not ever get to see this show. Knowing the way he came across on his lives he would have taken the world by storm in this role. They couldn’t have that now could they!
I am so mad of all that liaers , we want videos and facts when he smashed the loby and all of that what they saying , as far as we dont see that , we believe on nothing of them what they saying , a corruptied land that made me so mad , where are the facts where ?? I dont believe an nothing 😡 Pure Liam , how scare he was when he was ataced im that room and he was allone , man that is so sad 💔😭😭Thank you Harsh 🙏
I still think that KC has a lot to answer for. Even if she would come forward and say that he was off the wall. And she couldn’t just watch anymore. I would love if someone would just show the receipts instead of just writing what they supposedly say. Keep up the good work Harsh.
I agree she should say something, even if she said she left for her own sanity or gave him an ultimatum it’s me or the drugs. Anything would help give a better picture of what really happened.
@@stevesmith4230 if he was frozen he couldn’t be carried like that and if thawed bodies smell pretty bad pretty quick - but I’m a veterinary surgeon and can only speak for animals So many different people and departments would need to have been party to moving a dead body about - I just don’t buy it but many do
This Case is getting stranger and stranger, day by day!! Remember when Roger said that he helped Liam write the song, CLOSER TO YOU, about Supermodel, Naomi Campbell??? A song Liam started writing around 2019 ?? Roger wanted writing credits for that song ! 😂😂 Roger is such a scheming, CON ARTIST. I hope Roger goes go Jail!
🤣🤣🤣🤣 kitty expressed his opinion quite well imo!!! So, who in the tox office is releasing this information ,& isn't this going against protocol/confidentiality if the investigation is still ongoing? So, if he was soooo out of it, how did he manage to get onto the tiny ledged balcony, and if he did, then surely ALL the injuries was indicate a fall, not combat? Also, like you say, he had only very recently recovered from big kidney issues, so i very much doubt he would have gotten drop down, off his head, unable to function drunk and high. Also, dont you normally only choose 1 poison? So you choose to overdo the drink, or you do a nose full of dr*gs but not normally overdo both together? That's what i got led yo believe. Not saying he didnt partake in anything but not to these levels and still doesnt excuse the behaviours snd actions of all of those involved. I dont believe this its not ringing true .set up.imo.
How could he have NO REFLEX to protect himself, while having the ABILITY TO JUMP?
Yeah, makes no sense
@@barbarawood7613 I don’t think many people ever believed that he jumped ,intentionally unaliving himself - climbing over and falling backwards whilst attempting to leave is still a possibility in my mind
This is exactly why Celebrities should NEVER talk about their Alcohol and Drug Addictions !! Liam was too open about his mental health issues and his problems with Alcohol! These people, like Roger, used Liam's struggles against him!!! It's just such an evil and cruel thing to do to Liam! Liam trusted Roger, and he betrayed him!
I agree with you…because there are always narcissistic sociopaths who will use it against you…Liam did it in good faith as he wanted to help other people….but these nasties used it to their advantage
@@leecarson3426 probably suggested to him it would be a good move to say those things wether true or not
He was an easy target
@leecarson3426 Sometimes the pain is so overwhelming that you can't keep it in. I suspect that was the case with Liam. He wasn't talking just to talk. The pain was oozing out of him.
Roger was the enabler. Taking Liam to Argentina and not providing a duty of care he should be held accountable. If he was my son I would’ve sued him in civil court
Me too he deserves jail.
I read somewhere that the Roger and the two hotel workers were told by the judge they may be eligible for a suspended sentence? I fear they will walk free with the corruption in Argentina
I don’t believe for 1 second Liam would jeopardise absolutely everything by taking all this stuff of his own accord, not a chance , his life was looking good , everything in plan for his career his future ……heart breaking all of this ! I still standby what I said in the beginning 100% premeditated! They should have closed the hotel and questioned every single person staff and guest right away Insist on having all cctv footage not just bits of it, surly experts can tell if footage has been tampered with! Fresh eyes needed to go through this case with a fine tooth Combe….my opinion
Just accept what happened.
@jacquelinehunt7794 unfortunately this is not possible due to the inconsistencies that have been presented in the past 3 months. It doesn't make sense and thankfully people like Harsh & others Will not accept this and will keep speaking up until the truth is out
Definitely should have done and had forensics in 🤷♀️
@@jacquelinehunt7794 sorry but there are 1000s upon 1000s of us who will NOT accept what has happened! Go back to the very first video Harsh recorded on the 16th/ 17th October watch them all as I think you may have missed a few, you see the lies the cover-ups the contradictions the whole thing is a mess! Plus it gives you a bit of insight on what Liam was really like …a very talented musician a proud father a guy who endlessly helps others . Yes he was in a bad place but not at the time of his demise he was putting everything in place ….his future was bright!
By his own admission he had struggled with substance abuse and mental health issues for some time. Unfortunately, those plagued by addiction can relapse at any time regardless of how "well" their life appears to be going. Addiction is a life long demon to keep on top of and it doesn't discriminate. Being surrounded by yes men & facilitators is common in this industry although addicts will make their own choices regardless.
As someone who works in pathology in the US I don’t trust that Tox report for one second. It come back far to fast. I don’t know of any Tox results that come back that quick
The coroner will look into and report on what he's told to. End of
I agree as a nurse and those words “pink cocaine” are still being thrown about. That should have never been put out there because once it’s out everyone runs with it. Plus it’s so much in the news with the sensationalized P Diddy case.
@@Kassyeleven Yep money talks
Exactly even Matthew Perry's report took a couple months
Agree. To get accurate results it. Could take weeks
Roger and the hotel staff are the ones that need charging with murder not the dealers.Roger is the one from Argentina with contacts to supply those drugs,Roger is the one facilitating every possible risk to Liam,the drink,drugs and high balcony in a hotel room where he was alone! Then the Hotel workers supposedly wanted Liam out of his room as was reserved for Brett (whos everywhere at all times) but yet they would not allow Liam to leave as clear evidence shows they have him in a bambi chair hold to throw him back in his room! Make it make sense atleast! Kate is not off the hook either.something is so off about the reasons for her leaving.if she weren't involved in some way shape or form morally her leaving an extremely vulnerable man with Rog and not informing his family first to make sure they were atleast aware that Liam was in a bad way is the biggest mistake she could of ever of made! 😢
It will haunt Kate for the rest of her life 💁💁💁
How do you know she wasn’t in contact with Liams family ?
@@mrsquixote5 I think you’re right about that
💯set up….
Good morning Harsh...you better be nice to that wife of yours😅. All we can do is keep fighting for Liam 💔💔💔 Thank you for all you do!!!!
The other day I was shocked to realize that most people in the general public seem to believe that Liam died because he jumped off a balcony in a drug-fueled rage.
I tried to reply to some of them and tell them how wrong they were but it was endless... I felt extremely frustrated.
Exactly I was telling from the start he was killed but nearly noone was agreeing with me
I feel exactly the same 😔 people want to believe the bad stuff about him
Yes most people who have not been following assume he Jumped and was taking too many Drugs. Its useless trying to tell them that is just what they want people to believe.
People are entitled to their own opinion.
Hay Dios mio cada día se pone mas de cabeza este caso ....solo pedimos Justicia ⚖ Justicia ⚖ Para Liam Payne ⚖ 🙏
So many people think this was a set up. If the story wasn’t inconsistent. I hope pains lawyer will bring all this up. Where is Rodger?!!!
It was a setup!!!
Liam was lured to Argentina to be setup and unalived there, and Roger orchestrated it all!!!
I hope so too, I wish they could have sent their own UK lawyer but I guess that wasn’t allowed and he/she got them one in Argentina who I’m sure they trusted. It’s still not the same having to leave something this important to a stranger in another country known for corruption.
That footage of him being carried like that literally shows how he could've been beaten up without defending himself!
Yeah I agree!
And if he was hit it the head or knocked unconscious. They could of continued to beat him with no self defense wounds
Thats what I think happened!!!
@@RobbynPlottsI cant imagine what he went thru in his last moments 😥
That picture those monsters carrying Liam will always staying in my memory!!
@@wildheartxxx135 Yes, poor Liam had no protection. Where was his bodyguard? It's so disgusting how the hotel workers were carrying him like that!
during autopsy, the doctors take blood samples from various parts of the body -- the heart, the arm, the leg. etc... because once your blood stops circulating, the concentrations of drgs or whatever will be different.
There's no video of Liam arriving at that hotel ?
There is no video or photo that clearly shows Liam anywhere near or in that hotel, alive .
It was said that there's a cctv footage of him arriving in the middle of the night with Roger
@ it was said is not proof it happened,
I still dont understand how he walked down to the lobby seemingly ok, then was carried back to his room got absolutely off his face, and went over the balcony or was murdered in such a short space of time.😢😢
Yes same. Everything happened so fast. The whole story is very suspicious
He was setup and murdered in that hotel!
@@wildheartxxx135 Definitely 💯 percent! Everything sounds like a setup from the beginning!
You are great I just love how you say it keep going harsh
It’s bad enough losing their Son can’t even begin to think how you get over or learn to live with the grief but to literally read & see PROOF how their son was treated before his life was stolen by EVERYONE that was around him how do you deal with that on top of the grief of losing your son
That’s what I said, I can’t even imagine seeing my Son manhandled like that!
@@janetporter9652from an outsider looking in …how does human beings treat another human being like that …it’s absolutely disgusting 😫
This makes a lot of sense to me as a human in long-term recovery with a masters in substance abuse therapy. His hygiene was poor in the Argentinian photos, he was sleeping in late, and yes-restaurant and hotel workers are the FIRST people you'd ask to score substances in a foreign place. Maybe he got kicked off again when he took pain pills after plastic surgery. That's a lot of people's entry back into their old ways because it lowers resolve, even if it's not your substance of choice. It also makes sense why he was able to drink so much and not be comatose. Makes me sad for him. Especially being in a hotel room for all of this, his identified trigger...
If he was in the lobby of casa sur the fans outside would have gotten pictures of Liam doing any damage
Yes , I totally agree . If he was there the fans would off known and wud have taken videos heart breaking 💔
Of course they would, someone would of found it interesting enough to document it.
Loving these lives harsh , you make me laugh 😂😂😂
Thank you Tania !
Hello Harsh i totally agree with you Liam could still be here today . so many different reports about what had happened to Liam? How can they say that he was trying to leave when firstly they said he had fallen ?
From what I assume Liam had come to his death in his hotel room because why did he have 25 Injuries?Liam was thrown over as you had also mentioned. Normally if you fall backwards over you would land directly in that spot ? The hotel staff clean rooms every day correct? So why didn’t anyone see Liam’s bag below the 2nd floor??. The bottle laying next to Liam why didn’t it smash or his watch what happen twitch Liam’s Rolex Watch? I feel for his loved ones and his son this is such a tragedy.
Perhaps Rodger took it when he went back up to the room with Liam. He apparently asked Liam for it, however Liam refused. I believe that's when they had the fight.
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As there were no (public) photographs of Liam at the CasaSur, in an intoxicated state, and if Liam had not passed, and or gone off the balcony, would the world have ever known if he had indeed “gone off the rails”.
Or would it have been kept quiet?
Don’t think the hotel would have “advertised” the fact that Liam had been supplied by their staff!
Honestly this is all very sad, I think deep down we all knew he has taken more drugs that it was said, but something happened and “someone “ knew it and didn’t do anything but to continued to supply him. Drug is a terrible thing, but I can’t blamed Liam ;the poor soul was bullied by many and compared to all of the other guys in the band.what he had to endured was just terrible,a human being and a fragile one can only take so much.unfortunately after this report the authorities are going to let this go ,and put it all on Liam .Flight high Liam ,and remember you were just too pure for this world. P.s he was actually the only one in that band who came across as he really loved his fans unfortunately he wasn’t mean enough; this business is made for cold hearted people, Liam wasn’t;he wore his feelings on his sleeve.
Exactly 💯❤
Totally agree.
Yes he was too trusting and kind that people took advantage of his good heart💔
It’s all just so sad.
@@1_LadyDee I bawled yesterday for Liam, I feel heartbroken for him and his family, they must be destroyed, what a terrible loss .
We need to start pressing for the truth somehow to make sure we get justice for Liam Payne that he fn deserves
Buen día totalmente de acuerdo contigo
It said there were no defensive wounds, but if Liam punched a tv 3x like the two women said then he should’ve had some kind of cuts on his hand.
He could have trown something at it.
They said he “punched” it.
I don’t believe them .
Exactly
There is no defensive wounds cuz he didn't fall. He was killed and put on that patio and body arranged. There was not enough blood around his head which proves heart was not beating. The head injury properly occurred from a hit or punch and fell and hit something 🤔 the other 25 injuries occurred from a beating
Exactly 💯 💯 💯 I don't understand why no one is bringing up the 25 injuries on Liam's body!! The injuries WERE NOT FROM THE FALL. THEREFORE , it looks like Liam Payne was beaten up before he died!.
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A head trauma from that height would split open like a water melon, it would be everywhere! He was placed or maybe never even there as Brian says.
Exactly
I believe that he was beaten up as well. There were no defensive wounds possibly because his hands were held back as he was beaten and his head was put through the TV. Body placed in courtyard. That's what I think.
Its pre-planned setup ,its all planned but not very well planned cause they made few mistakes. And now they try to cover up them with all thes lies
I agree!!
Great analysis, as usual!
I do wonder, though, if the toxicology report is true, why there is no footage of him going crazy? Whether they were trying to ruin his reputation or pin his death on him... And even more so if there was no conspiracy and he was just a guy going crazy in public... HOW is there nothing?
Let's also not forget that we have NOT yet seen any video footage of Liam alive at Casa Sur AT ALL.
This just big mess and cover up. And liam deserve justice. And his family deserve just for Liam.
RN was told by Liam's doctor that alcohol with the anti-depressants could be dangerous
Liam was also informed of that - Roger may be culpable in some way but was he employed as Liams 24 hour carer - if Liam had been involuntarily sectioned under the mental health act ( agreed to by next of kin and signed by a doctor) that would also have destroyed his hopes for restarting his career
Hi watched your live from Turkey. Sad sad situation. Don’t know what to think on this anymore. However still can’t get my head around the demise that transpired so quickly Liam knowing his kidney problem surely wouldn’t want to kill himself so near to Christmas and time with Bear of which he loved. I’m not talking about off his head and falling from a stupor. I’m saying he knew his historical issues with the dangers to his kidneys, and the possibilities of life inducing injuries. Why did he look normal on some of the tik tok videos whilst in Argentina and then within 4 days whilst at the Casa Sur he suddenly takes so many substances to the detriment of life.
It sure is a MESS with an abundance of questions surrounding it Christine
Very Well Said, Valid Points Indeed...👍
Yes if we’re to believe the narrative it was a really fast fall into complete and udder chaos
I’m praying very hard for Liam justice and the murderer will be punished and jailed.
They dont get a toxocology report back in a couple of days.
Why did Argentina keep Liams body for so long? If he'd have been flown back sooner, the UK could have conducted a toxicology report. One that we could have trusted. Everything is so messed up about this 😢
Harsh I watched Brian this morning god bless him ❤️🙏
Agree on wrecking his name and reputation and things escalated and went too far
I agree
I thought the same thing
Kate’s airline ticket said left late 12th arrived in Florida early 13th. ……..( love to know if she asked for that 1D seat?…… and who takes photo of 2 suitcases in a car boot, taken from doorway, to post??) …… By the way did she even contact him from 13th to 16th ??
Yes, that's what I was thinking. I wonder if she contacted him after she left
I wondered that as well. There should have been messages between them that also should reveal clarity on the case.
@albertadlg Yes, true. She has been silent for a long time, and we don't know what exactly happened
I did read that Brian said he was in contact with her while they were together, if you can believe anything he says😳
So many unanswered questions why did she abandon him in the first place
If he wasn't at the casa sur hotel (as BH thinks) where else would he have been? Why was he not spotted elsewhere i.e in the hotel that he was in with Kate until the Sunday (allegedly) or at a private residence. If he was at a private residence or another hotel and was harmed there forensics would be needed as unlikely that a severe head injury could leave no trace.
God bless our Liam 😢😢🙏🙏🙏🙏
His father said to court on the 22nd of Oct that Liam had no private phone, in order to stay away from social media, that used to cause him great distress and possibility of relapsing
Good Morning blue eyes? Harsh, I know maybe is a bit late but better late than never HAPPY NEW YEAR, regards from London.
Happy New Year my friend
Good morning Harsh Mrs Harsh and cats and dogs ❤️👍🙏
how did they get the toxicology report so fast anyway ? It must have taken 3-4 months to get Michael Jackson's tox report.
This is my major concern... the speed of the report
Tox reports usually take around 2 months to come back. Prince’s tox report took 2 months to come back. That was my first concern. Tox came back to fast. I work in pathology/autopsy.
Obviously, the Toxicology Report was FAKE! The Coroner who did the AUTOPSY on Marilyn Monroe, lied about her Cause of Death!! Marilyn did not swallow a bunch of pills! Marilyn Monroe was murdered!!
Obviously, the Coroner lied about the Toxicology Report on Liam Payne!
8 weeks usually in the UK, this was my experience with a family member. Like everyone else I don’t believe it was a proper tox screen, probably one of those saliva tests they can do at police stations or emergency departments.
I agree Harsh we have to consider everything but some people won’t do that.
JC Chavez worked with Liam on his song, TEARDROPS. JC said Liam was very nice and easy to work with. He didn't see any sign of drug or Alcohol abuse when he was with Liam.
Aj from the bsb said the same
@MrsAnGeLiKa1005 Yes, I was just gonna say that! Liam was fine
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Alright harsh, 😂😂pressed the like❤ love your content
Good morning Harsh! Too cold here in Boston MA
I bloody HATE the cold !!
He was carried against his will through a hotel lobby into a lift then into his room! And there's No defensive injury or marks???
If Liam was supplied from 13/ 14th onwards and with alcohol, how can Roger have missed the state he was in? Even if Liam managed to hide it a bit, surely there would’ve been evidence of drink and drug use/ paraphenalia. And was he in touch with Kate after she left . . .
Also theres still the Rolex
Yes I commented earlier that it was said to have been broken when he punched the TV..another wild story..but I believe he was right handed and he wore the watch on his left. I would think you’d use your dominant hand to punch it
Harsh I’m sorry I can’t listen to this anymore it’s so heartbreaking 💔
I agree with everything you have said
If he jumped from the balcony he would land feet first. How did he land on his back? If he smashed up his room punch a tv how does he not have wounds on his hand hence “no defensive wounds”? This whole case is one contradiction after another. Every “fact” they release the contradict it with another “fact”
he could have kicked the TV.
It's more like 'how did he land on his back and not directly under his balcony?' Was there a significant wind burst that blew him to the left of the building? It's ridiculous..
@ he could have but the “hookers” claim is he punched the tv 3 times.
@@AmyJoTrautThe tv looked staged.
@@Lma894The whole room looked staged
Have you seen the new Infobae article about Geoff Paine and the autopsie made in the UK?
No. Where did you see that?
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Harsh where were the photos and autographs taken when Liam had the red and black plaid shirt on?
Hyatt. Liam always stayed in Hyatt when he was in Argentina
@@MrsAnGeLiKa1005And this is why Brian Harvey believes that Liam was never at the Casasur. But I'm a little confused about this because everything that happened was reported there
@@SammyA1989 Brian H theory can be real...where is Liam's check-in in CasaSur? Is there any proof of IT? 👀 No fans from CasaSur only Dayana...other fans were in Hyatt
@MrsAnGeLiKa1005 Yes, true. Brian Harvey could be right because there's no photos of fans with Liam at the Casasur, and the hotel was empty, with no wedding guests, no pics of Liam checking in, etc. But I'm still confused about this because I was thinking about the screaming and loud noises in the room reported from the Casasur. This is how Liam got the 25 injuries. Someone at the Casasur heard these noises in the room as if there was heavy lifting and someone working on the room. What do you think about that? Do you think maybe this story could have been made up? Everything sounds so confusing
Im still condused with the whole thing seems rodger was the runner no matter what he did Rogers there in the back ground smirking... They r giving so much paperwork out now, if liam was unwell and going too far his MANAGER should have sought medical advice and rang an ambulance the hotel workers should have called for help.
This is simply cleared up by showing the true cctv, but im sorry there aint no cctv it was all doctored i feel for his family and for what liam went through. I just cant see a young father getting into the so called state they had to man handle him, weird how when tmz showed the pic if liam he was no where near the concrete block which had been placed there. There would have been so much blood its just all a massive story a bit like mayas. Its all so dodgy 😢
Hahahaha the image of her de-icing a Range Rover 🤣🤣 I’m 5” 2 so I feel for her hahaha
Harsh i can’t trust these people 😢
Thanks for this update harsh it's given a lot of clarity over the traces element for sure 😮
I won't believe any articles until I hear it come from the Payne family in a live interview.
I wonder if they are watching the work that Harsh and Brian are doing to help expose the lies, I really hope so.
People can av an opinion but others don't like it
They certainly don’t like it but we can all have an opinion here some people are only luck at one possibility none of us know nothing.
Same.
What right do you have to expect the family to do a live interview ?
Also the brown bag was planted on the balcony by one of the hotel workers and another man in the next room they waited for George payne and the security guard to go i saw the video ❤❤❤❤
Miss that fireplace! 🔥
Hey HARSH I just had a thought: what if they misdirected everyone with the bag on the 2nd floor and they actually took him up to 4 (Lula’s room) and did the deed there. The one place they had easy access to and no one was looking because for some reason Lula is off limits.
Or from the roof!!!!
I have been thinking along the same lines. Also would have allowed others to set up his room to look like it did, while Liam was being 'dealt' with.
It doesn't matter what way u think of it though, it's completely heartbreaking.
I thought the same thing, Roger obviously used her as a plant and she should be charged also. But she’s a very famous Argentinian singer so that’s probably why they won’t touch her.
I dont think roger will do prison time. I think people are being paid off!
Even if roger nores went to prison in Argentina for a year, I would say he would have a very comfortable stay considering his contacts within Argentina.
Sadly I agree
Thats what I think too
I read the judge told Roger and the two hotel staff they may be eligible for a suspended sentence. They’re going to nail the 2 drug suppliers and put them in prison for a short time. It’s legal to use cocaine in private as long as no money charges hands. Pretty lax country I’d say.
I agree , harsh,
We just can hope and pray that it all come to lite, I don’t trust anyone either.
What gets me is why did Liam get into this state in the first place?
Record label drops him.
He looses his PR team.
Maya book and bullying on line.
Kate leaving.
Liams mental health took a dive and he maybe got drunk and took some substances.
But his death is through Roger and hotel callous treatment of a dear kind soul.
Justice for Liam.
All involved should go to prison. 15 year or life for premeditated murder.
So if this toxicology report is true Diana the so called fan didn’t meet with Liam in a sober state. Just saying, MO folks,
Great video harsh.
RN needs to go to prison for at least 15 years for neglect,
The hotel needs shutting down and those accused serve 5 years,
Couldn’t the management think for themselves and get Liam medical attention while they stayed with him until he was safe until ambulance came,
Not put him in his room, alone.
Cold and callous behaviour on the part of the hotel,
WERE THEY PAID to do it , by someone or someone’s???
A cover up is right .
Was Liam scared of folk getting to him?
Did he just get very drunk and injected with the drugs?
Roger facilitating it all to ruin Liam,
Was Roger paid to do this?
Good points, I didn’t realize cocaine was decriminalized in Argentina so if they had no proof that money exchanged hands then nothing they did would have been illegal. You can partake in private and share it but because of his death there might have been repercussions? No wonder that was Brian’s story he pushed so hard in the beginning. Seems like a pretty lax country to me!
Exactly in South America there would have a million photos it’s not normal that none exist
Look at the videos and photos at the Hyatt hotel where he was earlier, swarms of fans right round the block! He would never go from there to Casa Sur, no high profile celeb would go there through choice it is not a high end hotel, anyone can walk in right of the street. He was never there alive or if he was it was at the end, they took him there to kill him and throw him off the balcony!
Fans would have been swarming that hotel lobby, they followed Liam everywhere. There would be so much footage of him through that glass. Doesn’t even look like the kind of hotel that a multimillionaire superstar would stay at! Boutique my ass…looks pretty basic to me.
Exactly. Hundreds of fans outside the Hyatt, the Casa Sur is not a hotel a famous celebrity would choose! Look at footage outside the Hyatt and compare to Casa Sur, it is a world away. All those fans and none at the Casa Sur? I don’t believe he was there alive or if he was it was at the end. Casa sur was the stage for his death.
@I agree 💯 it was all staged there! If he had checked into that hotel there would be footage of it. The fact that their cctv looks like it was filmed in 1989 speaks volumes too!
I agree, I read some reviews of it and they were not very good. Complaints about staff being rude and not accommodating to requests. Cleanliness was an issue, noise problems, horrible food, doesn’t sound like a place even I would want to stay in
If he had lived I could have sworn that Liam was meeting up with Louis T to collaborate and I believe that Louis and his family would’ve helped him either way it is depressing how he was treated
No injuries on hands or arms? So how did he bust the tv that badly that it even broke his Rolex watch that they know is broken even tho it’s missing?
Maybe they were referring to Lula Miranda as the girlfriend that was around and mentioned being in the room above him. Although Grassi surely knew who she was. She’s listed as his “assistant manager“ and even requested him to be served no more alcohol, how did she known there was a reason for that? She’s a famous singer there so would be recognized I would think. Also read in her bio that she opened up for Niall at one of his concerts, she and Roger went with Kate and Liam to his while they were there.
Lula knows Simon. She was Roger's girlfriend? Or only friend or ex. Lula knows more than we think...now she and Roger want money from Liam's songs omg 🙄💰 that's crazy as hell!
@@MrsAnGeLiKa1005 Yes I saw where they’re claiming some input into his new music..the grift never stops!
Talking of falls, a lady's parachute failed to open and she lived. This was a few yrs ago and i had to google it to be sure I was correct in my thinking.
If that toxicology report from infobae is correct Liam could not have even stood up as just the alcohol levels alone are approx 5x's over the drink drive limit and a potentially fatal dose.
How did infobe even get private information that just would handed to family
Exactly!
Over 2.5 g/L
Severe intoxication, stupor with analgesia and progressive unconsciousness.
Suppression of reflexes, paralysis, and hypothermia. It can result in coma. Source: Mapfre
I've unfortunately seen the photo too Harsh and completely agree with what you said about it. Also, his baseball cap is upside down, yet on the 'evidence' photo, it's the right way up. Definitely some dodgy jiggery pokery staging gone on there
Hi Harsh, missed live! Do you go through the live comments. LP arrived at Casa Sur on the 13th, LP was staying on 3rd floor and bag was on 2nd floor. This information is what we are being told. (KC flight left on the 12th) Have you seen the footage of 2 people in the room/balcony on the 18th, allegedly. Cold and bright here!
I just want to cry 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Had he passed the visa ‘interview’? If he had and this is accurate how did anyone expect him to collect the visa? Assuming he would have had to return to the embassy to collect it (which you normally have to)
I actually mapped the hotel to the embassy and it is quite close, so maybe that is why he was there. But yeah, I wondered also, he didn't seem in a state to pick it and up and risked getting it revoked.
Roger nores is seriously wealthy. he was a multi millionaire at a very young age. A few million is nothing to him.
Yes , Roger set up Liam .but I don't know if he did it alone or someone was behind him cause he by himself didn't had a motive
@@Kosta5358 why would a self made multi millionaire involve himself in any of this ??
@anastasia10017 who knows maybe he had " unfinished" biznis for someone powerfull .those multimilioners are part of the big club
@@Kosta5358 he would not have got his hands dirty. he would have hired someone else to do it far far away from him.
It's an addiction, and a drug user is the only one that can really stop. They will go to no lenghts to source it. If it was a drug user in the street, no one would even talk about it. It's the dark truth about drug use, and I hope it's a wake-up call for those using it. So sad that he has lost his life, heartbreaking for any family member to loose a child from drug use. Hollywood and the music world have easy access to anything they want. Imagine your partner drank and took drugs (their choice) yet you got the blame for it!
If my partner did these things I would either bow out of the relationship having failed to be able to help OR I would be at their side no matter what... If I was also getting $35K a month from them I would also likely be more incentivised to do the right thing and that would be again to either walk away as I am simply with this person for money OR maybe I would utilise these funds to help the person I loved... UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES would I EVER leave this person I LOVE on their own in a foreign country with a person I deemed as someone very likely to pose a risk to them... Make all the excuses in the world... it is so easy to do so when it is NOT YOUR CHILD we are talking about... you have no skin in the game so you simply judge the individual and lay all the blame at their door... You may need to adjust YOU moral compass somewhat
@REALHARSH actually that's not what I meant, and I have had people in my family with major issues with drugs! I've seen the devastation it causes, and even when clean for years, it just takes a split second to use again. Yes, I have no "skin" in the game. You're right about that! I did also say it was heartbreaking for al involved. Any user can relapse at any time ,even those clean for years. I'm am not judging at all, I'm just saying everyone is blaming the girlfriend , I wonder what you would all say if she did something to herself. We are on lookers and we didn't live their life. It's sad, and I don't think for one moment thought any of this would have happened. I do have a moral cumpas. People can lie and pretend they would never touch drugs again, but they can relapse, and you could only go out for a few hours and something could happen. The drug dealers is what I get angry at, the sheer devistation it causes, and the people who sourced it for him. Drugs rob you of father's, mother's. Sisters, brothers. Friends, children, aunts and uncles, I've seen it. It's not their partners fault if they relapse. It's a devastating choice they make, and there should have been safe gaurding in place with management when she left. You can never predict when a person will start using again.
The thing is everytime someone finds another thing that doesnt make sense it seems they come out with another reasoning for that fact,almost like someone is watching channels like harsh and brian harvey and down the rabbit hole! Every single time so defo speaks cover up!! To many inconsistencies for a true story
Exactly this!
Oh my God !!? Get a life
Justice 4 Liam Payne 🕊️🪽🤍🎶☦️
I think Roger as something to do with Liam getting rid of his bodyguard
I agree, he was alienating Liam from everyone around him. I guess even his parents had to contact him if they wanted to talk to him. There’s definitely something nefarious about that in of itself.
He had work in the future he was going to get back into writing songs in partnership with Louis Tomlinson. The show he was going to do was finding bew bands and would have been in direct opposition to Slyman Cowbells show so he had a future without his record deal or management.
Very interesting point! If you had a choice to watch SlyCow build a band or gorgeous talented Liam, who would it be! Liam would have been amazing at this, gutted we might not ever get to see this show. Knowing the way he came across on his lives he would have taken the world by storm in this role. They couldn’t have that now could they!
I am so mad of all that liaers , we want videos and facts when he smashed the loby and all of that what they saying , as far as we dont see that , we believe on nothing of them what they saying , a corruptied land that made me so mad , where are the facts where ?? I dont believe an nothing 😡
Pure Liam , how scare he was when he was ataced im that room and he was allone , man that is so sad 💔😭😭Thank you Harsh 🙏
I still think that KC has a lot to answer for. Even if she would come forward and say that he was off the wall. And she couldn’t just watch anymore.
I would love if someone would just show the receipts instead of just writing what they supposedly say.
Keep up the good work Harsh.
I agree she should say something, even if she said she left for her own sanity or gave him an ultimatum it’s me or the drugs. Anything would help give a better picture of what really happened.
I think it’s all a mega cover up
It is!!
270 grams would be totally f'd up
What was the stomach content? That could trace back to when he passed to the day. I don't believe he passed on the day they say he did.
If he had passed on a previous day he would have had rigorous mortis ( begins within 1-2 hours)and not been able to be carried like that
@Loopyluna57 Not if put in a freezer. I think that delays it. I watch alot of C.S.I. shows. They could be lying too.
@@stevesmith4230 if he was frozen he couldn’t be carried like that and if thawed bodies smell pretty bad pretty quick - but I’m a veterinary surgeon and can only speak for animals
So many different people and departments would need to have been party to moving a dead body about - I just don’t buy it but many do
This Case is getting stranger and stranger, day by day!! Remember when Roger said that he helped Liam write the song, CLOSER TO YOU, about Supermodel, Naomi Campbell??? A song Liam started writing around 2019 ?? Roger wanted writing credits for that song ! 😂😂 Roger is such a scheming, CON ARTIST. I hope Roger goes go Jail!
Don't make sense
A woman reckons she spoke to him minutes before and said he wasn't high or drunk
Nice cat ,hello Harsh,keep up the good reports,sad sad ,,,about Liam such a nice young man he was ,,a fantastic singer,,,and human being 😢
O YES 100% SURE ROGER GUY AND BRIAN GUY,AND THE HOTEL PEOPLE DO THAT TO POOR LIAM, ITS SO SAD , AND HEARTBREAKING TO HEAR EVERY NIGHT,😢😢😢 RIP LIAM 🙏❤❤
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Thank you mate!
Me too!
If two people are holding your arms while being beaten, you wouldn't have defensive wounds.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 kitty expressed his opinion quite well imo!!!
So, who in the tox office is releasing this information ,& isn't this going against protocol/confidentiality if the investigation is still ongoing?
So, if he was soooo out of it, how did he manage to get onto the tiny ledged balcony, and if he did, then surely ALL the injuries was indicate a fall, not combat?
Also, like you say, he had only very recently recovered from big kidney issues, so i very much doubt he would have gotten drop down, off his head, unable to function drunk and high.
Also, dont you normally only choose 1 poison? So you choose to overdo the drink, or you do a nose full of dr*gs but not normally overdo both together? That's what i got led yo believe.
Not saying he didnt partake in anything but not to these levels and still doesnt excuse the behaviours snd actions of all of those involved. I dont believe this its not ringing true .set up.imo.