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These Are The Reasons Why You Should Not Buy The Manual G80 M3
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2024
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Owning a manual G80 M3 has its pros and cons. In this video, I give you my honest review about owning the manual version and maybe this isn't for you.
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People who says an G80 is soul-less most likely don't own one. Let me tell you what's soul-less, a Model 3 performance is soul-less to the point I sold mine.
Exactly. I love my manual G80.
it’s not that they’re entirely soulless. they are fun. i haven’t had an opportunity to drive the new g80 but i have driven and plan to buy an f80 as a daily driver and it is a lot more numb and lacks feel in comparison to my e46 m3 and other analog cars i’ve owned. you can’t duplicate the steering feel and connectivity with all the new assisted electronic everything. they are great and im grateful they still make M cars. but the newer cars will leave a little to be desired in comparison to the analog models.
exactly. Tesla is ugly and soul less and people who drive them are too.
Model 3 owners priorities are different. Not surprised you sold yours lol.
That’s like saying herpes isn’t bad because aids exists. The g80 manual is absolutely a horrifically designed trans mission and shifter setup. Go drive an e46 or e90. The difference is night and day. It’s by far the worst manual ever in an M car. Even the Supra has a much much better setup
I have a 2022 G82 M4 manual. I've had manuals since 1969 when I bought a new Mercury Cougar with a 4-speed. I learned to drive a manual transmission back in 1963 on a friend's VW Beetle. If you car drive one of those, you can probably drive almost anything. My last car was a 2015 F82 M4. The G82 is MUCH better and easier to drive. My F82 had a tendency to surge on acceleration in 1st gear. I've had manuals ever for 53 years and never had this problem before. This was a problem on the DCT cars as well. I attribute that to the way that the torque came on in the S55 engine so fast, hitting peak torque at about 1800 rpm and the interaction with the traction control, The tires and chassis couldn't handle it very well. This is gone from G82. The S58 engine doesn't reach peak torque until about 2700 rpm. This as well as improvement to the chassis and tires make it a LOT easier to launch the G82.
Another plus for a manual transmission. It has effectively become an anti-theft device. There have been many documented cases where carjackers and thieves have passed on or given up and moved on to another car when they discover the car has a manual transmission. Most of them can't drive a manual.
I love my manual transmission M4. Save the manuals!!
Great video. Very informative. You're right, manual is not for everyone. But the experience and the sensations provided by the manual version of this car is absolutely awesome and I really enjoy mine.
Awesome to hear that you have a manual 👏🏻👏🏻
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2 things I love about my 2022 M4 Comp, washing my car, and driving it without .... a manual.
Dude! You are beating those shifts. I own a N54 BMW 335 XI 6 Speed Manual currently at 380HP. - The car and I shift as smooth as butter.
Was thinking the same thing . No reason these shifts shouldn’t be smooth especially with these new transmissions
I've heard of taking care of the clutch delay valve might make it smoother. Haven't really done that but my buddy with the f8x has done that so I might look into that later on
The CDV, in many new cars makes it hard to shift fast and smooth especially 1 to 2. Reason being you've let off the clutch and gone back into the gas, but the clutch is engaged for a tiny second bit longer and so it causes a jolt
Agree 💯 shifting is so smooth. My best part of the G80 is Rev. Matching.Down shifting and not miss a beat is an awesome feeling.I have been driving manual since the early 90's I learned how to drive in a 1989 Nissan Sentra
I own a manual G80 myself and all my cars have been manuals. The biggest downside is probably the higher ⛽️ consumption compared to the Comp model.
Yeah I could definitely see how the consumption is more. Because we locked the other higher gears. But definitely wouldn't want to own this car any other way
What’s the fuel consumption when cruising at like 75 on the highway?
Lol coming form a 6.2 liter v8 Chevy ss I’m loving the gas mileage out of the g80 m3 manual!
Wish they offered a DCT for the G80, the ZF 8 speed just doesn't feel engaging like the DCT. However atleast the manual is still an option.
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I've been told there are transmission tunes that make the ZF feel like a DCT or even better.
Hmmm this is interesting to hear
I was blessed to learn how to drive manual on an m2c and I never want an automatic bmw again. I know they make good auto’s on the newer cars, but as long as manual is alive I’d take it
That's exactly how I feel!
Keep your 6MT soul for as long as you can. Great idea to show us viewers a positive (washing) while discussing the negatives (cons)--they don't hurt as bad hahahaha. She's sweet and she's bloody. EnJOY!
** Side Note: the manual shifter looks waaaaay better than that thing BMW placed in between the front seats of the automatic.
Love the mix between driving and wash talk 🔥, manuals are definitely more engaging 💯. The rev matching in these cars is amazing. I’ll also own a 6mt e92 or e46 day! Kids first 🤣
Yeah I definitely want to own e92 M3, but I'm going to look into the DCT route. So the wifey could drive that one LOL but not my G80 haha. Definitely kids are in the future plan
Great videos. I really appreciate you spending the time to put these together. Professional content, concise and you are well informed. You helped me over the fence and I’m getting a 2024 M3 manual. Suggestion on your videos. Do your filming outside of your house. Nobody wants to see the interior of your home. The background with the vehicles or landscaping would be more enjoyable.
Thank you much appreciated congrats on your upcoming M3 and hopefully you're not waiting too long. I try my best to make sure I put quality content out there and I always look forward on making it better.
How does tghe manual rwd do in rain. I already got my 2 seater so am now planning on replacing my macan with this ffor my "practical" daily driver. I drive a decent amount for work so need something i can whip around quickly in wet conditions and xx chf not worry about spinning at every turn. Id probably even consider all season tires if that is what is needed.
Surprisingly it's not bad, there's always that sense of fear that you may hydroplane because of what we see online. As long as you're not doing anything stupid at high rates of speed in the wet you should be fine. It really also depends on what tires you have. This car is very technologically advanced. The MDM mode allows the car to be controlled. A lot of it is seen when I took delivery of the vehicle in this video
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The instructor in the video kind of explains it more
Great video! Been looking for an e9x M3 as well. After driving the dct it was a little underwhelming but such a great package. It’d pair nicely with my manual mustang GT, but a manual M3 just sounds so fun.
Thank you much appreciated. Definitely a manual M3 would be a lot of fun. Sometimes it's just not about having the most horsepower and the fastest 0 to 60
I love a manual now I don’t know if I would get the G80 in a manual. Probably not if I keep my other cars because they are both manuals. But rear wheel drive is always a must and I’m in Georgia so no snow. I have only driven the G82 manual so I need to drive the auto first.
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i think personally think the manual transmission on the G8X platform should been the same like the F8X platform it sucks but they should kept it DCT would been so cool to have it!!!! banger video as always bro
It's definitely similar. Some people like it some people don't but I absolutely need at least one manual car in my garage. Yeah the DCT was very fun and more Sports like instead of this softened up version
@@TheDailyDriven facts!!!
Great personal insight on the manual transmission good sir!!!
Glad I was able to get this information out. I'm hoping the next video will help a lot of other people looking to get into the g8x platform in general. Thanks for checking out the video
Automatics and cars in general are so fast compared to manuals...I have an e92 328i 6 speed and I always have someone up my ass in between my 1-2 shift...its so annoying and gives me anxiety
Totally agree there's always that one person up my ass when I'm shifting from first to second. It's definitely annoying
bimmer invasion 2023 lets goooo!!!!!!
Yes sir!
@the Daily Driver, What is the RPM when going 80 MPH on the freeway with a 6 spd manual? Is the ZF more gas efficient?
3000 and automatic will be more efficient on fuel. If one is spending this much $ then which transmission is efficient is irrelevant. Its about engagement and if you are really up for having fun with the manual transmission
Definitely could agree with this. The manual is more for engagement. You're definitely get more MPGs with the auto
You'll get more MPGs with the auto as compared to the manual
I wanted a manual transmission so bad when ordering my M4, but with the winters here in Virginia, I need my X-drive. 😅
I’ve heard that people with Manuel’s don’t like those BMW bucket seats? Is that correct?
A couple of things I was hoping to see in your video and that is rev matching on downshifts which is a huge asset with sticks because this is knowledge many would be manual enthusiasts would like to know as it may be a big assistance to them. My last M240i had it, was terrific however there is a "secret" to get the right code to override it.
How much is too much power for a stock clutch? Not necessarily always pushing it to the limit and being aggressive, as you mentioned clutch will eventually get worn out if going through gears at an excessive rate.
I pick up my Manual G80 M3 tomorrow! #savethemanuals
Niceeee! Congrats to! You'll love it
30 hp isn’t much at that weight. 60-70 ft lb torque as you mentioned is a big difference. The big thing working against the manual is WHAT automatic is in the auto, which is the legendary ZF8HP. It’s arguably the greatest automatic transmission of all time at this point when you combine performance, durability, efficiency, versatility. BMW was extremely smart to throw that in. It took BMW’s power train reliability to another level the last couple gens.
10-12 years ago I would never dare own a BMW even when it’s in the budget. Now, I would without question. The N motor helped with that too.
The most godly reliable high hp machine with the most reliable transmission ever stuffed into a car? Bolt ons to 800 anyone?
If I could not get the g80 m3 manual I would have kept my Chevy ss. It’s so hard to explain the connected feel with the manual.
Have to agree with how the feel is with a manual. 👍🏻
I too wish they went with the PDK ZF gearbox out of the 992's...that is a stout tranny..
That would be a ton of fun !
Sometimes I wish my 335i was a manual, but being my school daily driver it's probably best that it's not, lol.
I drive a ‘21 G80 M3 Base. Is it me or does the revs take too long to drop between shifts? Rumors has it that rev hang is non existent when you turn off gear shift assistant. I drive my brother’s GT350 and the tremec transmission is just smooth. Not just that, but the revs just instantly drop and shifting 1-2 is smooth compared to the G8X base platform.
Also, have you done a CDV delete yet?
That’s exactly what gear shift assistant does. It holds the revs at the proper speed for the next gear for a bit. Turn it off, and revs fall like normal.
Had that tremec 6060 in my Hellcat and blackwing ,american cars have much smoother transmissions I have a m3 manual and it feels rubbery .. sad but true american cars just have better manual transmissions I thought it be the opposite.
I love the manual but 1st to 2nd shift under full power isn’t great. It’s super lurchy and difficult to do smoothly. Luckily there is more than enough power to make first unnecessary.
Definitely read this car has way more than enough power.
Solid video. 🤙
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Soulless my a$$. I love my G80 MT
Save the manuals 🕹
can you comment on highway MPG, or atleast where the revs are in top gear at say 80 mph? i ordered an auto because i was concerned about the 6mt mileage on the highway but still have a month left before i have to choose for certain
A friend of mine has the xDrive variant and gets about 7-8 liters per 100 km on the highway whereas for me it’s around 10 liters in my manual. So there’s definitely a difference
Yeah you probably won't get as much gas mileage with the manual because you lock the two other gears that the automatic has. The difference isn't too much where it makes a drastic difference. Just remember you're paying a lot for a car, might as well enjoy it the way you want
Yeah I've seen that difference for sure
I get 28 mpg highway when driving conservatively, 70 mph on cruise control. Mixed city/highway with occasional spirited driving gets me 23.5 mpg.
The speed warning while you was going through the gears lol. I gotta agree 6 speed manuals are a lot of fun and make you feel one with the car, even though I love my DCT M3, I can’t wait to get my 6 speed 335i back up and running.
It's nice that you have the best of both worlds DCT and a manual. Hopefully you get the manual back up and running.
I'm ready to see the car lowered 🙌🏾
Coming soon. Next Friday's episode. Getting all these pre-mod episodes out first 🤘🏻
why didnt you get full leather?
You don’t need it.
Idk....I feel like a Manual M2 is better if you want engagement. The 8 speed auto fits the G80 better.
The G80 M3 checks all the boxes for me. I like having the four doors instead of being limited just two doors. That's just my personal preference. I'm always going to choose a manual when I have the opportunity to spec out my car. But if I never do get a e9x it'll probably be DCT so the wife can drive it
@@TheDailyDriven Definitely respect that. Can't go wrong with any G80 honestly. I'm looking to get a G80 xdrive when my current lease is up this year. Love your content
Intake and exhaust don't make 30HP. Sorry. The Comp has more TQ which is why it has more HP.
Actually there's numbers to back this up.
Good example is PSI's midpipe dyno show it was a 14 hp gain with just a midpipe.
The Eventuri Carbon intake is a massive increase over the stock airbox. With the turbo inlet area increasing 160% and the filtration area increasing 40%, the sheer amount of air entering the S58 is unmatched. This will leave you with a 13-18hp and 12-16 ft-lb increase with the STOCK TUNE
Regarding the % of Americans that can drive a manual, I have more female friends that can operate my F80 6MT 😂
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The manual needs a required short shifter.
Yeah 1st to 2nd is long. I definitely agree
@@TheDailyDriven hey, I was referring to something else. The bushings on all manual bmw are soft. Short shifter kit upgrades that. And then it feels like a Porsche gearbox. Simple upgrade, big returns. Have you observed missing gears when punching it?
I miss the manual on my m2 cs - if the competition x drive came with a manual option it’s a no brainer for sure. My all time favorite manual gearbox is the s2000 so in comparison the bmw manuals are kinda clunky. I will say that driving through the mountains or even the track with paddles helps you push the car more in the corners versus having to take your hand off the wheel to shift gears. Pros and cons different strokes and all that. I’m with you on an e92 v8 manual or maybe even the lci m2 or that cs variant- that car has also been growing on me
If you want a faster m3 get an automatic. If a 6speed gives you a hard on then play with a stick🤙 you do you .
Ain’t even watch yet and you’re trippin. The answer is NONE! Well maybe x drive.
I think this car is way too big and heavy for a manual. engagement fun went out the window when this car came to be 4000lbs
It's more like a manual m5
A car is never too big and heavy for a manual..
I'd take a manual over any auto. Just my opinion. Even if it's too "heavy"
Yeah I can see that.
Way slower than x drive comp
And manual bmw are terrible and rubbery
Very poor reviews on m3 manuals. Nobody wants them
Everyone is so focused on straight line speed. But most of you forget that some people buy the cars for the engagement of it. They are different solutions on correcting that manual feel. Auto Solutions makes a short shifter that allows it to feel a little bit more engaging. There is a subset of the BMW culture that still wants to drive a manual car. Which is why there's options out there