This is an incredible wistful rendition of Never Meant. You can tell through his strumming how much intimacy and maturity he's experienced just in the intervals between American Football and Owen. While American Football's original reminds me absolutely of high school, this version reminds me of a man looking back at high school. The fact that he remade this song is just no less than poetic.
Elliott Sarre that's still cover, dude. because the right goes to American Football, including Holmes and Lamos as well. Just like Damageplan covering Pantera's Walk back then.
Does anyone ever take a huge breath and just completely relax at the beginning of the song? It's just one of those songs. I swear. I want this song to be one of those songs that I just completely forget about. Then to suddenly hear it again 20 years later, still loving it, and cry because everything from now, all my troubles, fears, thoughts, loves, memories come flooding back with this 4 minute piece of genuis.
I can't even choose which version is better. The American Football and the Owen version are both absolutely phenomenal. I'm just lucky to have heard them before.
I emailed Mike after this song came out and asked if he would cover any more american football songs, and he was like super nice and kind and said no i think ill stick to owen from now on. And then the whole american football revival came, and i was like yeah thats good, could you cover some owen now, would love to hear the whole band play 'bad news'
It's like the Americ AnFootball version is what happened months after the two broke up and Owen's is a look back on that relationship 5-6 years later. Really nice rendition.
i like this version of "Never Meant" a lot. The acoustics are really good, but the original is a lot more jazzy and upbeat which I prefer. Altogether, both are pretty amazing.
This is an incredible wistful rendition of Never Meant. You can tell through his strumming how much intimacy and maturity he's experienced just in the intervals between American Football and Owen. While American Football's original reminds me absolutely of high school, this version reminds me of a man looking back at high school. The fact that he remade this song is just no less than poetic. Çok güzel ya out.
This songs hitting pretty hard right now. Started talking to someone and even met her once and it felt surreal; never met anyone like her. We even agreed to see each other the week later, but she got distant days later. My guess is she’s still getting over a previous relationship and I was just there to help her cope. This feeling sucks.
This is the most sobering song I've heard in a long time. The moment I felt from disconnecting from my ex to where I am now is nothing short of divine and I hope that everyone that even glances at this is thinking of someone they love. Fuck the idea you have, just tell them how you feel and if you don't I'll come kick your ass.
I found the original American Football version a while ago but I found this one recently. I haven’t listened to the original in a while so hearing made me feel some strange distant memories. The experience listening to this was less nostalgic and more of an emotional rebirth. Thanks Owen.
Dear God. I thought This Town Needs Guns was a real gem as far as the merit of composition goes, but this Kinsella fellow fills me with more pain and love than I had previously believed to be possible. What a beautiful and honest soul this man has.
I like this a lot. A new rendition of an old song thats his... its a weird concept but awesome. For him to play the original song with this project wouldn't sound right; plus I feel like he added some little things that even add to the original song but almost don't make this a cover but a new original song. Super cool.
this split was first released in 2002, so the song was probably recorded shortly after the s/t was in 2001. he was probably still using/learning to use pro tools at the time
They're also performing as a band in Seattle and a few other locations very soon. Mike kinsella is bouncing around bands as he is very adventurous with his music career.
Tfw you break up with your SO and have to pack your bags in the morning, but there are no hard feelings between you. You just weren't fast enough for love.
Let's just forget Everything said Everything we did Best friends and better halves Goodbyes And the autumn night when we realized We were falling out of love (There were some things that were said that weren't meant) But we never did Not to be Overly dramatic I just think it's best 'Cause you can't miss what you forget So lets just pretend Everything and Anything between you and me Was never meant
He says ‘the other night’ not autumn night; i think its different slightly from the original. Edit: you straight up posted the never meant lyrics. This song has more many changes.
That's right. I saw of video of him online where he teased playing it live and then he went and played something else. Truer emotions are rarely spoken.
So, ....if the other was the American Football version, this is...the Soccer version...? Great song, love them both ....now I want an Australian Rules Football version. The more the merrier.
I read all the time over people arguing whether this or AF version is better and more emotional etc. and I know nobody gives a flying fuck but this is my observation: I met that girl in 2012 on a business trip (won't give details of our locations, it's irrelevant) just right after I discovered AF and Never Meant. Been there with her just one night, we weren't even flirting. Went back home and stay in constant chat from then on. We basically fell in love (at least I did for sure) with each other but didn't have enough time/money/luck to meet each other again soon after we first met. Year passed, I met one other girl and our communication ended. There were just occasional 'Hi's' from time to time. After 9 months or so my relationship ended. Just right at the time when AF released the official Never Meant video at the exact moment when I realized that I am still in love with her. We re-connected, started chatting again and not long after, there was some strange coincidence that she was coming to my town. Probably two of the best days of my life. So it was my turn to visit on her, in the same town that we first met. Unfortunately, she was going through very rough period healing over big tragedy in her family. And even though I thought visiting her would help her, she completely froze and just shut down. Some time passed, I met my future wife, now having kids and stuff. What I am trying to say: AF version was everything from start till the end of our so called relationship. And Owen's is just me now: couple years after, a bittersweet taste left out of it. It's not that I miss it but definitely unable to forget. And will be wondering ever after if it was truly never meant or it was something else.
Miroslav Dimitrijevic this song, well to me as a high school boi, it’s kinda my retrospective over this girl I had feelings for. I protected her from her stalker like ex and that’s when I realized I feel in love with her. The love was unrequited of course since I didn’t want to stress her out. So time passed on and after being close friends for a year, I told her my feelings on Christmas. Well, she friendzoned me, and also I the crushing reality arrived when I realized that she had horrible social anxiety. Basically me just telling my feelings fucked up her life.... and these two songs taught me that you can only shoulder the burdens and move on, otherwise your gonna be stuck in this pothole of darkness
Let's just forget everything said And everything we did Best friends and better halves Goodbyes And the autumn night when we realized We were falling out of love There were some things that were said that weren't meant There were some things that were said that weren't meant There were some things that were said that weren't meant There were some things that were said that weren't meant There were some things that were said that weren't meant There were some things that were said that weren't meant There were some things that were said that weren't meant There were some things that were said But we never did Not to be overly (overly) Dramatic I just think it's best 'Cause you can't miss what you forget So, let's just pretend Everything and anything Between you and me Was never meant Was never meant
@legitdreamsexplode I feel you man. I cried the first time I heard the AF version and I've played that album hundreds of times. Then after a few years I heard this version... I cried harder than I did the first time I heard the AF version. Fucking Owen man. He just has such a unique way of making such beautiful music...
Idk.. just kind to did for me, specifically the voice. Listen to American Football's version and around 2:11 he says "never did" ..that's the best example I could give. If you don't agree that's good too!
![Owen - The Avalanche [FULL ALBUM STREAM]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/RyLbmjSELq0/mqdefault.jpg)
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This is an incredible wistful rendition of Never Meant. You can tell through his strumming how much intimacy and maturity he's experienced just in the intervals between American Football and Owen. While American Football's original reminds me absolutely of high school, this version reminds me of a man looking back at high school. The fact that he remade this song is just no less than poetic.
wow ur illustration was perfect and yes i do agree
Could not agree more!
and compare this to the energy he had as the drummer of good ol' cap'n jazz. such versatility
Precisely. This song is emotive in more ways than I can articulate. That's probably why he refuses to play it live.
Neil Kelley MIKE KINSELLA... WAS THE DRUMMER FOR CAPN JAZZ?
I love albums with these kinds of pictures. Something so simple that can make you feel a million memories all hit at once...
Aya Afterlife same, I made a whole Pinterest board with pictures like this that remind me of album covers lol
J link?
Benji
Link pleeeeease
@@JessicaGail link please
i can't help but singing OOOO-VER-LYYY after mark sings it
Still so infectious after all these years. It's like a wrestler mentioning Ric Flair or chopping someone and the crowd going "wooo!"
DRAMATIIIIIC
mike*
People need to stop saying this is a cover. Owen is Mike Kinsella from American Football, this is a remake of his own song.
I know seriously
Elliott Sarre that's still cover, dude. because the right goes to American Football, including Holmes and Lamos as well. Just like Damageplan covering Pantera's Walk back then.
rly?
Just like Angels And Airwaves covers blink.
when did ava play blink songs?
You can't miss what you forget.
crying at 9 am on a Sunday has never felt so good
It's sunday at 9:30am right now. Not crying....yet.
This comment means everything a year old yet I know you’ll never see my reply I just want you to know I saw this and it meant something to me.
Exactly sunday for me and its 9:05
@@nwfly8665 i dont know how it REALLY meant something for you but it *never meant* anything to me.
We out here #crygang
Does anyone ever take a huge breath and just completely relax at the beginning of the song? It's just one of those songs. I swear. I want this song to be one of those songs that I just completely forget about. Then to suddenly hear it again 20 years later, still loving it, and cry because everything from now, all my troubles, fears, thoughts, loves, memories come flooding back with this 4 minute piece of genuis.
did you already forget?
@@matteovismara816nope.
(phone rings)
Her: "Hey, Mike's calling me."
Her Friend: "DON'T ANS---!"
Her: "Hello..."
😂
“Let’s just forget”
Her and her friends: 🙄🙄🙄
_sing's along_ *NEVERR MEANTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT*
If someone ever makes a movie documentary about American Football, this is the song that needs to be used for the end credits.
I can't even choose which version is better. The American Football and the Owen version are both absolutely phenomenal. I'm just lucky to have heard them before.
The layer of ambient noise that comes in near the end adds so much to this
"cuz you can't miss what you forget" ....that line always kills me
I emailed Mike after this song came out and asked if he would cover any more american football songs, and he was like super nice and kind and said no i think ill stick to owen from now on. And then the whole american football revival came, and i was like yeah thats good, could you cover some owen now, would love to hear the whole band play 'bad news'
It's like the Americ AnFootball version is what happened months after the two broke up and Owen's is a look back on that relationship 5-6 years later. Really nice rendition.
i like this version of "Never Meant" a lot. The acoustics are really good, but the original is a lot more jazzy and upbeat which I prefer. Altogether, both are pretty amazing.
Paul Racz The original is not really jazzy. What are the jazzy elements ?
Théophile Phanoune The drumming. Lamos has said that he had used jazz influences when playing on the AF LP
+Théophile Phanoune the drums bro, the drums.
Also the use of extended chords
@@chriadmusic use of extended chords doesn't make a song jazzy
This is an incredible wistful rendition of Never Meant. You can tell through his strumming how much intimacy and maturity he's experienced just in the intervals between American Football and Owen. While American Football's original reminds me absolutely of high school, this version reminds me of a man looking back at high school. The fact that he remade this song is just no less than poetic. Çok güzel ya out.
wow ur illustration was perfect and yes i do agree !
Could not agree more!
and compare this to the energy he had as the drummer of good ol' cap'n jazz. such versatility
This songs hitting pretty hard right now. Started talking to someone and even met her once and it felt surreal; never met anyone like her. We even agreed to see each other the week later, but she got distant days later. My guess is she’s still getting over a previous relationship and I was just there to help her cope. This feeling sucks.
Update please
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@@bradleygonzalez1160 what updated is needed friend? It was never meant.
@@GoodOmen365 fair enough have a great day
This is the most sobering song I've heard in a long time. The moment I felt from disconnecting from my ex to where I am now is nothing short of divine and I hope that everyone that even glances at this is thinking of someone they love. Fuck the idea you have, just tell them how you feel and if you don't I'll come kick your ass.
come kick mine already, literally.
Hey OP, are you as much of a dork now as you were when you posted this 6 years ago?
How are you doing now?
Is everything okay now, friend? Hope you well buddy!
Bad idea guys, i just turn the situation more awkward, and she take a step away from me. Fuck u
Owen is becoming one of my favorite singers he is so under rated for how talented he is
He's the drummer for Capn jazz and the singer for Americ Anfootball
Listen to this every single night to fall asleep
are you still doing it?
Anggi A. Firmansyah yes
I found the original American Football version a while ago but I found this one recently. I haven’t listened to the original in a while so hearing made me feel some strange distant memories. The experience listening to this was less nostalgic and more of an emotional rebirth. Thanks Owen.
He has been such a Master. Touching the right chords. Deeply.
His voice calms my anxiety.
Dear God. I thought This Town Needs Guns was a real gem as far as the merit of composition goes, but this Kinsella fellow fills me with more pain and love than I had previously believed to be possible. What a beautiful and honest soul this man has.
Ahh, I love TTNG!! ❤️
So let's just pretend everything and anything between you and me was never meant.
xd
Lena Vanille Well maybe...everything is tragic, and temporary.
@@SapphireDreamssss à1111111L
@@summerofgeorge1327 xdd
The farts were for nothing
I'd never heard this song before, but I saw the amazing Gihm acoustic cover so looked it up. Beautiful.
I can still feel the feeling I got from this version the first time I heard it.
You can’t miss what you forget!
Why did I find this through a K.K. Slider cover?
Ah, another man of culture, I see
Lol! Same
Same and I even like Mike Kinsella how did I not know this
RUclips, uh... finds a way
Holy shit!!!
its so haunting and calming. Im so at peace when i listen to this.
boy, this gives me chills
I was literally one tear away just now from posting this exact phrase on a "Watch this and try not to cry" video.
This CD was the first I heard of Owen (and The Rutabega), at ~14 y.o.. Epic
This song. Gah, I just can't explain the amount of pure emotion that builds up inside of me when I listen to it.
With every song he sings he can make such a powerful song with such few words.
I like this a lot. A new rendition of an old song thats his... its a weird concept but awesome. For him to play the original song with this project wouldn't sound right; plus I feel like he added some little things that even add to the original song but almost don't make this a cover but a new original song. Super cool.
Try my best not to cry but it makes me cry even harder, damn why does this have to be so soothing and heartwarming at the same time.
i always thought it was autumn night
i think in the AF version it is autumn night
Same
This song is amazing. I love the American Football version, but I love the emotion that he puts into this version. especially at the beginning.
Imagine an actual girl picking up a phone and hear "Let's just forget..."
😂😂
Dude for real, idc how broken my heart is i won't sing when she called me
fr i literally just thought the same thing
He was teaching himself how to use Pro Tools when he recorded this.
+testnumberone1 Sounds very thin honestly. But it's an acoustic song so...
+testnumberone1 Why do you say that ?
+Théophile Richart it's a comedy bang bang reference, I'm pretty sure
this split was first released in 2002, so the song was probably recorded shortly after the s/t was in 2001. he was probably still using/learning to use pro tools at the time
@@THESLOWDEATHHOOKS how is it thin tho :0
so long goodbye by familypet made me want to go back and listen to all my acoustic favorites from when i was in high school
: (
You gotta love that album cover
Théophile Phanoune Looks exactly like one of the Vehicle Emissions testing facilities I used to work at in Maryland.
What if this version is actually about trying to forget about his old band, and move past it 5 years on.
+slashinvelvet What if? Well, then it's a immensely less meaningful song. Good luck with everything but....ew.
+slashinvelvet Then playing their most popular song probably isn't a good idea.
They're also performing as a band in Seattle and a few other locations very soon. Mike kinsella is bouncing around bands as he is very adventurous with his music career.
They have a new album LOL
What Doth Life This was released 12 years ago
Oh man this just punched my feels right in the balls :(
Excellent! I love the slide guitar.
its not comparable, it has a different emotion that AF and i love them both equally, but for different reasons.
what if we kissed in the near and far vol 1, rutabega/owen split storage garage 😳😳😳
haha jk jk... unless 😳😳😳
2:44 is so midwest
This is actually the backing guitar in the 1999 AF version's intro.
It's that lap steel for real
Lap steel, not slide guitar.
@@kingcobrajfsofficial yeah my bad I mean't to say steel pedal
@@MrRebelSniper link?
Is this the drummer from Cap n’ Jazz???
I didn’t know he could sing he should start a band
Just a Random Guy You’re joking... right?
Tim I wonder, am I?
Just a Random Guy heheh
@@JustaRandomGuy890 hes the singer and one of the guitarist in American football
@@xaddicthaterx that's the joke stinky
I can't wait to see American Football tonight! :D I'm so excited
How was it?
brilliant cover
I was only aware of American Football from back in the day. Now that I know of this I'm pumped!
GOD rip my heart out
i dont want 2 forget u
Hey man . You will be ok 😀
I think my nephew is going threw this, your msg. Stood out .
He posted this song so I’m listening 👂 😃
Dont worry brother
thanks bros
love this more mature remake. less angst but still hits the feels
this is beautiful
ethereal
Wow. Beautiful.
so nice
Tfw you break up with your SO and have to pack your bags in the morning, but there are no hard feelings between you. You just weren't fast enough for love.
Flawless.
non-stop song!
still just as good as it was 10 yrs ago
I love it
so good
Let's just forget
Everything said
Everything we did
Best friends and better halves
Goodbyes
And the autumn night when we realized
We were falling out of love
(There were some things that were said that weren't meant)
But we never did
Not to be
Overly dramatic
I just think it's best
'Cause you can't miss what you forget
So lets just pretend
Everything and
Anything between you and me
Was never meant
He says ‘the other night’ not autumn night; i think its different slightly from the original.
Edit: you straight up posted the never meant lyrics. This song has more many changes.
Genius
Mike lost his teenage emo voice by the time of his first Owen CD, but that "Lets just pretend" sounded so much like 1999 AM Kinsella. ❤
I like this version alot but if it
payed homage to the original and had the lead guitar riff from the original towards the end, I would die lol
He does play the second guitar from the intro in 2:44
That's right. I saw of video of him online where he teased playing it live and then he went and played something else. Truer emotions are rarely spoken.
Next: One of These Days by American Football
You guys can lemme know what kind of keyword if we want a squeaky high note sound in the background ?
So, ....if the other was the American Football version, this is...the Soccer version...?
Great song, love them both ....now I want an Australian Rules Football version. The more the merrier.
American Football! Mike's old band before his Owen project.
wow nice version of this song! American Football ♥
Oh, awesome! I was just wondering.
need guitar tabs
couldnt agree more!
this is great to listen to especially after American football's new ep
I read all the time over people arguing whether this or AF version is better and more emotional etc. and I know nobody gives a flying fuck but this is my observation:
I met that girl in 2012 on a business trip (won't give details of our locations, it's irrelevant) just right after I discovered AF and Never Meant. Been there with her just one night, we weren't even flirting. Went back home and stay in constant chat from then on. We basically fell in love (at least I did for sure) with each other but didn't have enough time/money/luck to meet each other again soon after we first met.
Year passed, I met one other girl and our communication ended. There were just occasional 'Hi's' from time to time.
After 9 months or so my relationship ended. Just right at the time when AF released the official Never Meant video at the exact moment when I realized that I am still in love with her.
We re-connected, started chatting again and not long after, there was some strange coincidence that she was coming to my town. Probably two of the best days of my life.
So it was my turn to visit on her, in the same town that we first met. Unfortunately, she was going through very rough period healing over big tragedy in her family. And even though I thought visiting her would help her, she completely froze and just shut down.
Some time passed, I met my future wife, now having kids and stuff.
What I am trying to say: AF version was everything from start till the end of our so called relationship.
And Owen's is just me now: couple years after, a bittersweet taste left out of it. It's not that I miss it but definitely unable to forget. And will be wondering ever after if it was truly never meant or it was something else.
Miroslav Dimitrijevic this song, well to me as a high school boi, it’s kinda my retrospective over this girl I had feelings for. I protected her from her stalker like ex and that’s when I realized I feel in love with her. The love was unrequited of course since I didn’t want to stress her out. So time passed on and after being close friends for a year, I told her my feelings on Christmas. Well, she friendzoned me, and also I the crushing reality arrived when I realized that she had horrible social anxiety. Basically me just telling my feelings fucked up her life.... and these two songs taught me that you can only shoulder the burdens and move on, otherwise your gonna be stuck in this pothole of darkness
Oh cool! Uploaded on my birthday. ^-^
Let's just forget everything said
And everything we did
Best friends and better halves
Goodbyes
And the autumn night when we realized
We were falling out of love
There were some things that were said that weren't meant
There were some things that were said that weren't meant
There were some things that were said that weren't meant
There were some things that were said that weren't meant
There were some things that were said that weren't meant
There were some things that were said that weren't meant
There were some things that were said that weren't meant
There were some things that were said
But we never did
Not to be overly (overly)
Dramatic
I just think it's best
'Cause you can't miss what you forget
So, let's just pretend
Everything and anything
Between you and me
Was never meant
Was never meant
sweet album art.
Any one have any songs similar to this version as well as the American Football one? I would greatly appreciate it.
+1TheoSoft1 this town needs guns
I'd say Snowing. The guitar work there is really cool
"Shit Twins" by Dads
@legitdreamsexplode
I feel you man. I cried the first time I heard the AF version and I've played that album hundreds of times. Then after a few years I heard this version... I cried harder than I did the first time I heard the AF version. Fucking Owen man. He just has such a unique way of making such beautiful music...
San Holo got me here, glad he did!!
haha same here!
@i think you should stop he posted an instagram story with this song in the background :) seriously San has introduced me to so much good music. lol
San Holo only found about AmFoo cause of his ex the AMAZING Yvette Young
pearlrossi101 ah yes him and American football are great buddies
Idk.. just kind to did for me, specifically the voice. Listen to American Football's version and around 2:11 he says "never did" ..that's the best example I could give. If you don't agree that's good too!
Anybody have an instrumental for this?
I totally ugly cried today.
what instrument is that whistling sound in the background?
he uses a pedal to fade in and out the guitar audio/volume while playing with a slide on his finger
huh didnt know that. thats pretty sweet
the song Crocodile by them is the best example of the inspiration from Kinsella :)
Crazy to think I was in elementary school when this video was uploaded
i was five years old then.
@@gabeg.5329 I was nine
1:30 - 2:15 is sooooooo difficult to memorize on guitar.
Gotta say, the original is better, but this remake of it is pretty amazing too. Mike sounds amazing regardless of what project he's in.
holy shit didn't realize this was an American football cover when I clicked it. amazing
+saulithian Owen's the solo project of Americ anfootball's vocalist :)
+saulithian hard to call it a cover when this guy wrote the thing haha
saulithian
This is the singer from American football
never meant soul .... never meant owen souless
A great version of the American football song
This is the emo version
Wha?