You'd have to be pretty good to be able to purposely get a 1580 rather than a 1600. You'd have to know every question 100% then know that you should get a few wrong and that you made no mistakes on the rest.
Jamie Lannister Not necessarily. A person can be unsure about some questions but still can get 1600 through lucky guesses of Mcqs. But a person who purposely wants to get 1580 will have to know every question 100%.
Sam Flynn in this world intellegence takes you places, morals and wisdom dont. Its a dirty secret among the elite. The ignorant and innocent suffer so that the elite maintain their status.
Tammy Pham It is one of the major parts of deciding if you can get into the college you choose. If you cant get into the college you want, you settle for less and people tend to earn less when going to a college they didnt want.
+TheonlyHoneyBadger So you cheated on a test... Guess what? Your going to jail... wait WHAT?!? This is stupid... Not like the education system isn't rigged... I took some tests with my students at a local high school... surprise surprise I FAILED... and I brought this to the board... I almost got arrested for proving their tests to be fraud... So yep
Jesse Oh And that is what I get for using my cell phone to respond. Sorry. Yes I taught Mathematics grade school and high school I assisted at college level.
1st rule of cheating on a test is you do not talk about cheating on the test. 2nd rule of cheating on a test you DO NOT talk about cheating on the test.
Guys I have a question , If a Instructor lets a guy with different name and surname on his passport compared to his registration sheet . The guy was so clever. What should I need to do ? Is It legal ? And she was so anxious In a hurry did not let us get ready between sections and she started the timer right away .. And they changed the test center to a completely different place with no security no good tables and chaires it was absolutely disappointing and there were 15-20 students friends cheated .Giving small papers to each others and etc but she let them . Can someone help me what should I do ? ??
Mason Exp - no, he enabled one kid who did not deserve to get in, to take the place of someone else who should have got in but was cheated out of his place
Sean Sellon this test doesn't really decide your life it's a major role in what can sort of change your life but I it really isn't the course of your life, like in Japan those tests are what decide your life you can only take it once if you fail you fail life
The entire purpose of the SAT is to gauge how well a student will do in college. If those students who cheated are doing fine in those colleges, doesn't that say something about the SAT? These standardized tests are a ploy to make money, nothing more.
ArcticAnDroid Well yea, but also, this guy admitted to cheating just 16 times, but he may have taken it more. I don't think those 16 kids are proud of themselves five years later, after they've probably finished college. And maybe they didn't finish, maybe they dropped out bc they realized college classes were too difficult. The SAT is definitely suppose to be more reflective of college exams than those you receive in hs. They have a validity and I don't see why everyone is blaming the system. Like wtf..you need an academic standard to be accepted into a higher education course!
The SAT is one of the best indicators of college performance. Sure you have some lower scoring students outperforming higher scoring students, but in general the higher the score the better the college performance.
The SAT has nothing to do with college or life imo, it's just a measure of how good you are at taking standardized tests. I performed higher than several of my friends on the SAT, but I know for a fact that they are smarter than me and perform higher than me in most of my classes. Knowing how to answer the questions that the SAT asks doesn't teach you anything about life skills or the stress of college.
It's not how well a student will do in college, just if they learned the info they needed to in HS to advance onto college. High School is what is SUPPOSED to prepare kids for college (it doesn't).
That one test shows you have a nice blend of ability to sit quietly and concentrate/being smart right before you go to college where you'll sit for hours and have to concentrate.
WOW this is so true unfortunately that’s why we seem so many kids in gangs and bad stuff because they can’t get into higher education they need money somehow
He went to jail then got released no one else got in trouble and no one learned anything. I just saved you 14 min of your life but wasted like 5 sec reading this.
What you talking about. This video gave us insight into how this whole thing is done. Through this in depth interview we learn that the world isn't black and white and we don't really have to play by the rules, it's possible to get away with certain things. We get to see the demeanor of an intelligent person, listen to the things that they would say and the way they respond to trick questions etc. This video isn't a waste of this it's super interesting and educational.
I love how people look at this and think the kid is the problem, when the reality is the TEST is the problem. What in god's name does the SAT tell us about students? Honestly? How much harder is it to cheat on a GPA instead?
while I do find it unfair for the students who do work for their grades and success, I still have to say fuck ETS and their damn tests. gave me so much stress back in high school. the SAT ONLY measures how good you are at taking the test. it does NOT accurately reflect a student's intelligence or predict how well they will succeed later in life.
Since schools vary widely in academic rigor, GPA isn't a very good metric of a student's ability either. What would you propose would be a better alternative?
+Kevin Le I think the problem is that the sat and just standardize tests in general are plain stupid. They ask you the most ridiculous questions that don't and never will apply to 99% of test takers lives; furthermore, is a student who studied 5 minutes before taking a test to remember some random fact more qualified than a student who spent 5 hours memorizing but didn't remember? School in general is a huge waste of time unless you are directly going to school to train for an exact job. When am I realistically going to use Pythagorean Theorem? When I get a job involving math? No and even if I did the resources of my time allow me to easily research it from almost anywhere on the Internet to refresh my memory yet I remember spending hours in school being tested on things like that. "You can't always rely on the Internet for everything" fuck you engineers spent their lives making the Internet as great as it is and it has become the single most useful learning device you sayicantuseit
Matthew Walters I'd counter that it's less about the result and more about the process. It's not that you'll be to apply the Pythagorean Theorem in real life, but you'll learn to think in different ways and be able to have the capacity to solve complex problems. Also, learning basic geometry and what not is just an application of the algebra that cements your understanding algebraic math in general. To say that algebra doesn't affect your field of learning would be incorrect. Once again, I see the same flaws in the SATs as you do, but until we have an efficient method to test the mental capacity of millions of students at one time... its, unfortunately, the best we have.
I find it interesting that he didn't just take the cliche road of "I am ashamed of what I did" and "I made a mistake". I like the fact that he can acknowledge that he did something wrong without saying that he was sorry he did it. That takes guts. Not that what he did was right but I still commend him for that one.
Morgan's Tech The real crime is standardized tests. And for those kids who got into colleges on fraudulent scores...well it's up to them to succeed in college.
techEtiquette In a way I love what he did because he exposed a bad testing system and on top of that he's a businessman, he had a service that he gave to other people and made a good chunk of change from it lol
Oeste no she’s a mother whose kids got average scores had to go to average schools and she’s convinced they didn’t get into the ivies because of a broken system
If they caught all the students that cheated, he probably snitched on all of them, because there’s no way that all the students he took the test for just got charged.
Most people don't realize that the SAT is a business, not some government issued test that legitimately analyzes skills of the test taker. It is run by the College Board, which is actually a company and not a "board". Their tests are designed in such a way that unless you are in the top 1% of geniuses, you cannot finish everything on the test in time. The scores you need to pass an AP test for instance are really strange. You can pass some of them with only getting 35-40% correct. Yet for all these tests, you are required to pay to take. And if you want to send these scores to a school, you're looking at 11$ extra per report. I think it's ridiculous that such a business is allowed to dominate the education system.
Allen Li The reason it’s hard is because of the way the questions are put. It’s really simple linear algebra and simple division rules. Yes though, definitely hard to answer if you aren’t used to it.
I've only scored a 1350, but I've never run out of time. Also this test isn't made for the "top 1%" because if you look at exams in places like South Korea, our SAT is the easiest thing in the world.
this lady's facial expressions just piss me off. she tries to look like she's so clever and saying something that everyone else isn't thinking already.
Yeah, I'm sure schools have a better impression of him after he repeatedly committed criminal fraud and shat on the system that is integral to their admissions process.
@@ryanchecks5145 Lol it's really not all that high. From his interview, I can see how his scores are skewed toward the math side. This guy probably consistently scored 780-800 on the math section and 680-700 on the reading and writing sections. I would have charged less and gotten students 750+ in both sections if I were as dissolute as this guy.
Thomas Markee if you’re being sarcastic, I meant like a tutoring company that would offer classes and stuff, not just private tutoring for his neighbors or whatever
The problem i have with this 60 minutes segment is that it refuses to aknowledge the REASON for students cheating on standardized tests. They say over and over again; he cheated on an important test he cheate wah wah but they never say; the reason why he cheated was because the tests are largely outdated (they've been going since 1926), and there is an extreme problem with the system of education in our world.
Holl K The reason he cheated was because he wanted money. This guy is NOT some sort of activist aimed at repairing our educational system. He's just a criminal.
SParkApCider It's perfectly fine for you to have a problem with our current testing system. But this guy isn't trying to "make a difference;" he's just trying to justify his side business.
+Philip Ottey wtf ? i was a foreigner 5 years ago. I went to the U.S for only 1 year for my senior year and i took the SAT. my score was 1250. Native american should do waaay better than that
+simon cao I have never been to an English-speaking country, neither of my parents speaks English well, and I got 2090 on the SAT for the first time...
ivoshkin you are something else :P . Jk . I'm just a normal student with little knowledge of English back then. Even now , I'm not fully prepared. My thing is its impossible for native speaker to score below my grade
*_Trump's Wall_* nah the college still only cares about money, but if you are really good you‘ll get a scholarship and someone else will pay the college:)
Why is everyone on here complaining about greed? Almost every college in the US in nonprofit. They use tuition to provide financial aid and build new programs. Nobody's making a corporate profit off of leading a top university. (The few colleges that are for-profit are often the online ones, such as Full Sail)
It's just taking the same awful test multiple times and for $2500 a pop. He's basically being paid to make other people look good, the educational equivalent of a makeup artist.
+Jennifer N It's a type of test that people take and it's used to compare people. It can tell colleges what most people score and people who score high probably perform better. As far as community colleges I don't think the score matters at all. ACT and SAT aren't even hard tests. If they weren't timed, I bet most people would score really high.
TuccTownLaydii you are stupid. There are no unfair advantages or disadvantages on standardized tests. If a kid knows something racism can't stop him getting a good score, being poor can't stop him getting a good score, being in a situation where you can't do homework
@@arizexas he's kinda right. how else are we gonna gauge literally every student in America's academic ability. if someone wants to stand out in a different way then they can volunteer for hundreds of hours or be more involved in clubs or community activities. the SAT/ACT is the option that academically inclined students like me take, students that can't afford to volunteer and be involved all day because they're too busy trying to get good grades
Doing well on one test doesn't mean you will perform well on future tests. If you only got into a good college because you had a high SAT score and bad grades then the system is broken. Even if they got into a good college, it doesn't mean they will do well in their classes, and might get bad grades there. Which means they wasted their money to get there.
SAT gives you money for school, if you score high enough. I've had a few friends score a few hundred points short of a perfect score, and they got almost full tuition (25k-30k). P sure if you got a perfect score or the score this guy was getting for people, wasting money isn't even a problem(cause the students probably got a full scholarship to almost any IVY league).
Having a high gpa and low test scores shows you are not very smart and had your grades inflated or played the system and took easy classes, your just mad u got a bad score.
Yeah and college is taking money from kids so they can do classes over and over again so they don't care if you have bad grades on classes they want them leaves
If i had to hire someone for an office job, i would definitely hire him, you should not care about his criminal charges when it was something like this
Yeet God 😐😑 Yes you should. If he doesn't have integrity with this, then he probably won't have integrity for most other things either. I'd be concerned as hell about hiring him.
well everyone in comments that didn't benefit from system has a criticism but no solution. Let's hear your solution. Cuz nothing is perfect soooooo we gonna criticize all day long.
+prinsen115 And they took offense like he committed murder, yet in reality he is helping good people who suck on SATs pass. Also, why must colleges rely on this SAT/ACT testing? bad enough they gangrape you if you need a student loan and they make money off of you for parking, living, eating, and reading at their stupid campuses(not counting credited classes and books). Don't get me started with the SAT is your life thing since every teacher(where I live) encourages you to get tutors and books, which don't even help that much since they randomize the test each time and guarantee a few points on the test(I've done SATs numerous times and only got a 1080, yet a 3.4 GPA throughout high school).
+prinsen115 I think its for psychological effect not because he's dangerous. Put someone in cuffs and force them to do the walk of shame with all those reporters taking pictures is super degrading and that is the point.
ptm374 If I were that guy, I would've hid my part of my earnings somewhere where the police can't find, and get the best lawyer to bail my ass out or least reduce the sentence from this bullshit if I get caught.
Strangely enough, I'm mad at the kids who hired him, because it was cheating and wrong, but not at Sam. In fact, I applaud him. He had a skill. He turned it into a business. And I kind of think his whole operation was genius. Say what you will about him, he gets a nod from me.
+javalin597 I honestly don't blame the kids. The SATs are (somehow still) important to getting into college, despite the awful requirements. The short time limits, trick questions, how they score wrong answer, and a lot more bullshit. If you were told by your friends that a perfect test taker that takes the SATs all the time for kids so they can get the grades to be on the top picks of colleges so you don't end up working at McDonalds & you didn't have to take a several hour long bullshit test, why wouldn't you take that offer? If the US wanted to get their shit together, they would have already discontinued this test or improve the test where you don't pay and have no time limit.
Hmm, you do make a good point actually. Yeah I would definitely agree that the US's outdated system is at the core of all this. I think Jon Oliver did a segment arguing that very thing as well.
+javalin597 I dont think you can blame the kids either. They used their own advantages to the fullest. Namely, they had money and they used in a certain way
I know this is old but, these reporters and media members are just the worst non-criminal in the world. Self-righteous and looking down on everyone in almost every story.
CJHarvest774 They are pathetic. They don't challenge the broken system but viciously attack the people fighting against the broken system. Every important event in US history happened with a fundamental change in the system, for good and for bad.
The R6 Fighter Pilot no, look at his eyes man, he's excited by the rush of possibly getting caught, not only that, he thinks he's smarter than people, the kids cheating end being losers or killing themselves when they are not performing well. He on the other hand likes being the smartest guy in the room. with his talent, he could intern or get a good job, he's choosing something that has risk, because he gets off on it On top of that, he doesn't show remorse, he's justified that these people should get opportunity, because they have money... If that's not a sign of sociopathy... Idk what is
John Johnson Haha for real. He's getting paid to take a test. He knows how life works. You have to cheat your way sometimes to get money. You can't be the guy that lives a normal life and expect to be rich. You have to go do the work. And that's all this kid was doing.
The R6 Fighter Pilot It's sad how you guys are impressed by stuff like this... making money isn't the end all be all. If you think that way (like this kid does), you'll go down a bad path. I really don't want to sit here and lecture, but the laws there for a reason and there are plenty of ways to make 2k regularly without committing crime.
6:15 they obviously edited what he was gonna say afterwards. It definitely sounded like he was still talking but they didn’t want to show him making logical sense so they cut it
+slick trip I'm talking about the people who pay an administrator or use their name and power to become accepted. These people don't deserve their spot on a school either. I've never heard of scholarships for sat scores.
Emily Caja Because then all you’re left with is high school GPA and schools are of inconsistent quality. That’s why you need a *standardized* test where the results are calibrated to be consistent nationwide. It’s not perfect, but better than admitting people at random.
Well the SATs and ACTs aren't a very good way of gauging how intelligent a student is or how much they learned in HS. I had a friend in high school who had finished college-level cal 3, linear, and differentials math classes, yet she got a lower math score than I did on the ACTs, though I just barely scraped through cal 1. I have another friend who was our class's valedictorian, who is a math tutor and finished cal 3 with ease. Yet she also got a lower math score than me. Does that mean that they're worse than me at math? Not at all. It just shows that I'm luckier, maybe, or maybe I'm a bit better at taking tests. Standardized testing is riddled w faults.
Not only that, but based on the grade a student consistently gets throughout high school needs to play a bigger effect. If they work that hard in HS, they will in college too. It needs to be more of an overall perspective of the person. Throughout all of those years we've taken hundreds of tests. And even places like New York we need to take so many final tests called Regents just to be able to graduate. Adding in the SAT is just ridiculous in my opinion.
Jonah Danny Blue need is such a strong word.... I thought school always look at your extracurricular activities for admission. Really should just stop complaining about the SAT, foreign country laugh at how easy our math section is. They even took away the writing portion lowering the score to 1600.
This is aweasome, he is a great business man. Hes probably going to make millions in the future. A smart person knows how to exploit their talents and make money out of them. He is smart
@@wesjay7780 Are you aware of how far some students would be willing to go for a spot in the college of their dreams, or at the very least a good test grade on their resume? Depending on his prices for SAT/ACT guides, test takers, or even more professional help, he would be making millions! In this education system, plundering would work almost _too_ well!
+Jack DeRoche not at all an asshole. the SAT is a very unhealthy way of testing that puts a lot of pressure on some students that couldn't handle it. the test is made so important that those students willingly pay someone else to do the test for them. the fact that he managed to do the test for others doesn't make him an asshole
+ Jasper Kole - I agree about the pressure of these tests. The only way you can succeed is by treating it like a game. A game you can win. Once you get intimidated by the test, you have already lost.
Man, I love this guy, although on the surface he may just look like a deluded guy with no integrity, he really is helping to expose the propaganda behind standardized test, and unmasking how corrupt standardized testing is to students who deserve a chance. I don't condone cheating, but I do condone exposing a corrupt system.
I wish high schools would offer an elective class that will teach you how to take the SAT/ACT rather than paying a shit ton for a private class. Since they don't have writing section, they should make you take 2 math and 2 cr sections as your monthly exam and give you a grade equivalent of what you score on it. Like 1000 = C, 1100 = B-, 1200 = B+, 1300+ = A
BRBallin1 Some high schools do offer an SAT prep class but they aren't as helpful as the classes that you have to pay for. Also, the scores that you matched up with to the grades doesn't even make any sense. A 1300 should be almost equivalent to a D- considering the maximum score of the SAT is a 2400 (which would be an A+), divide that by two and you get a 1200 (an F).
I8THEmagictoaster it's a way to see what you've learned and remembered throughout the years. It also sort of is like a placement test to see where you stand as some colleges are more difficult.
True, the test can be biased because of anxiety etc therefore a 3-4 hour test is not proven to be accurate. However... That being said may highschools are at different levels. One highschool's A might be different from anothers highschool's A and their tests might be totally different. Therefore 1 standardised test across every highschool *can* be seen as advantageous. Not that I agree with standardised tests but it has it's perks.
Some High Schools are more academically rigorous than others. The SAT/ACT gives you a look at their performance on an even playing field. Another problem with looking at just High School is that you can have "Study Wonders" who get high grades because they put in a lot more time studying than most of the other students. It's good they're so dedicated, but being a Study Wonder won't help them as much when they have to deal with the more challenging material and heavier course load in college. The SAT gives you a good idea of their true scholastic aptitude.
That’s not really fair either. One of my friends is truly quite dumb but his GPA is 4.0 unweighted because his school makes it so easy! My school on the other hand is IB and academically challenging so someone getting a 3.7 here would count for more. Therefore the SAT which is the same for everyone will showcase that the “friend” is actually a worse student than the one in the IB school.
M G Most colleges look at your grades in relation to your high school's averages. So if your friend's school really does give A's to everyone, then the admissions department is aware of that.
Fr nigga according to my state, I'm retarded (Christmas tree every test) yet back when I did try in 3rd grade I had a highschool+ reading level, 😂😂😂i can probably pass that shit
i hate exam based school. they say they're preparing you for the real world but in the real world your boss isn't going to hand you a piece of paper and say here take this test so our company can make more money. school should be project based because that's a more realistic representation of a real life scenario
It would just be a lot harder to make the SAT project based. You can't expect a project to be finished in a single testing block, and if you let them do it at home, then they can easily have someone else do it, and students are more dependent on being able to spend money on materials, etc. SAT and ACT are the best we've got at the moment.
This shows how fucked the school system is. It's so much pressure on young people and only a number chooses the rest of your life. Maybe at that time you aren't as smart or you aren't mature enough and it just chooses the rest of your career and what you do in life it's really fucked
Koto Español - No, it only shows how lazy kids are and how unwilling they are to do what it takes to achieve success. Paying somebody to take your college entrance exam only serves to indicate that you don’t have what it takes to tackle the academic rigor of a top notch college or university. Besides, kids can skip the ACT/SAT and go the community college route instead and be just as successful, so it’s not like they don’t have options. I would say that these kids are trying to take the easy way out by getting somebody else to do the hard work for them. That right there is not the fault of our school system.
Are u stupid... The kid did a crime.. He is to blame... SAT test are used for colleges.. They are not stupid they have a purpose.. I do agree tho that they need to make it impossible to cheat on them
Thomas Williams Nah, the SAT asks too many one dimensional questions (plug in numbers, basic sentence structure, etc) and doesn't test a lot of important skills that are useful to college students. Most good universities have mechanisms for gauging how good your score is relative to others in your high school.
Jack Murd The funny thing is, Great Neck NY is also the area where infamous Jordan Belfort started up his firm at Lake Success and began making millions.
Hello :) It doesn't necessarily determine how well you can take a test. You can't be an idiot and expect to do well on the SAT. You have to have some higher brain functioning to answer certain questions in the amount of time given. You may be able to get away with a high writing or math score, but you can't learn the rules of effectively reading and comprehending; that's directly related to intelligence.
Shakespeare You're stubborn. Of course anyone who's intellectually disabled, such as an autistic kid with an IQ of 70, wouldn't prove successful on the SAT. But the fact of the matter is that the overall test scores of those with an average IQ wouldn't show any correlation between level of intelligence and success. It should be obvious, the SAT is based on curriculum, it's not a test for aptitude.
The SAT does not test knowledge. The SAT tests your ability to take the SAT. The math, reading, and writing on the SAT is not what students learn in schools. You could be a stellar AP trig student and do poorly on the SAT, and your chances of a good college are out of play. That's why this system must change.
PillowNinja99 theres also people like me who suck during tests. For some reason I always managed to no do well on test like the SAT. I believe its like you said that the test is not really what you learned in school. Thats why you have all these companys making practice tests and flash cards to memorize this specific test.
I didnt study for mine.. I didnt think it was that important. I still got in the colleges I wanted. Fact is this SAT is not a good indicator of intelligence or even smarts. I dont really care that someone along me in college cheated on their SAT, college and work will expose them if they continue. Really at the end of the day can you do the work, are you competent, and so on that matters. There are plenty of people who did better than me on SAT but they couldnt do what I do.
MrWolves321 I did well enough on the sat and act despite not getting ready for it in any way to, and I got into some great colleges. I am not saying you shouldn't study to do the best you can, just because it worked for me doesn't mean it will work for you. Tests is what we have on mass scale, we just have to go by it. Generally people who do extremely well on exams like sat and act are pretty smart though. These exams just point to the fact that there is a good chance one is fit for higher education.
No it's not. Your question answers the question of why deathrow inmates get letters from women all over the country that love them...a criminal they don't know. If that doesn't say that human nature is twisted I don't know what does.
Jim Kline I don’t see him as a criminal just a guy who is very smart and athletic. Football and a talent for acing tests including the Sat. I’m mean wowz.
@@mclilzenthepoet2331 no, he's not a murderer. Just a low level felone. It still raises the question why she finds him attractive AFTER finding out about his crime.
MattMoans thats actually true they exploit the system first then when they get rich they will do something for the poor to put the people on their side.
Just get rid of the SAT and ACT. There's no freaking point anyway like seriously. I get 4.0s but when it comes to the standardized testing I bomb it every time. There's no real point to it. It's telling that teens are worried and upset enough about 1 stupid test and the impact it has on their future that they'd hire someone else to take it for them and do well on it.
That could just mean your school doesnt teach to the standard of the SAT. Sat and act sucks but it can really show the difficulty of your school. 4.0 at one school can translate to a 3.5 at another
This Journalist is frustrating. What is with the faces she's making. She looks like a judgmental PTA mom, except the man she's playing holier than thou with is a genius.
Why ask him the simplest of questions? This interviewer expects only one answer, and pushes him to it. It gets really annoying. Yes, what he did is unethical, but he is likely smarter than you academically, should the interviewer really find it necessary to force an apologetic reply out of him? Already, with his prior answer, where he mentions saving several kids, you can tell he knew what he was doing.
+John Trollinski (SalvadorSTM) He is only acting like he is sorry. Because he plead guilty and is probably in probation or bail something. If he said anything like I don't care, he will go to jail again. The kid is smart
+John Christian Depends on the state you live in. Most states the judge imposes the sentence. Also he has already been convicted so he could say whatever he wanted and they could not try him again. He is most likely just trying to save face so that he doesn't look like a bad guy. What he did just shows what US colleges are really like.
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If you're good at something, never do it for free - The Joker
+lol Good ol Joker. Crazy but wise.
+lol Not exactly word by word, but I thought of that quote too.
+lol This is why they shouldn't remove Draftkings.
Uhmmmm thanks for Quoting me.
+lol Never do it for free
Rule #1 of cheating: never get a perfect score or the exact score to the person next to you
Sachin Nair ding ding ding
You'd have to be pretty good to be able to purposely get a 1580 rather than a 1600. You'd have to know every question 100% then know that you should get a few wrong and that you made no mistakes on the rest.
Christian Aliferis Totally agree
Christian Aliferis well if you’re good enough to get a full score (1600) then I’m pretty sure you’d know you have all of them right
Jamie Lannister Not necessarily. A person can be unsure about some questions but still can get 1600 through lucky guesses of Mcqs. But a person who purposely wants to get 1580 will have to know every question 100%.
All I see is a smart kid taking advantage of a dumb system.
Immanuel Kant yep
There's a big difference between intelligence and wisdom.
Sam Flynn in this world intellegence takes you places, morals and wisdom dont. Its a dirty secret among the elite. The ignorant and innocent suffer so that the elite maintain their status.
That's simply not true.
Amen this guy is a genius
The interviewer thinks she's the smartest one.
I agree
I agree too she has an attitude where she thinks she know anything
Yet repeatedly says "SAT test" when the T stands for test, lol
I feel like she is still salty from not getting into a college or something in the past
Glitch Doge I thought HE was the one who seemed arrogant
I mean it's kinda unfair that a single standardized test decides your entire future.
It does not decide your entire future, you are truly misguided and narrow minded.
Tammy Pham It is one of the major parts of deciding if you can get into the college you choose. If you cant get into the college you want, you settle for less and people tend to earn less when going to a college they didnt want.
truth!
Dimitros Not when they prepare you for your entire life to do it.
Aca Tea Lots of intelligent people choke under pressure and/or just aren't good at taking tests
the real crime is standardized testing
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+nucky thompson So true I fucking hate the SAT it doesn't reflect the intelligence of the student whatsoever.
Don't forget to handcuff them! They will kill you with their perfect scores!
Haha
+TheonlyHoneyBadger
So you cheated on a test... Guess what? Your going to jail... wait WHAT?!? This is stupid... Not like the education system isn't rigged... I took some tests with my students at a local high school... surprise surprise I FAILED... and I brought this to the board... I almost got arrested for proving their tests to be fraud... So yep
+anjhindul You're**... I'm guessing you're a teacher right?
Jesse Oh
And that is what I get for using my cell phone to respond. Sorry. Yes I taught Mathematics grade school and high school I assisted at college level.
I love how he continues not to care, he literally just supports it.
Natalie __ he said he would never do it if he could go back in time and that he knew it was wrong.. did u watch the whole video?
He never backed down. It wasn’t unethical, the only thing that was unethical was the system
LV R10 well obviously because he got caught 🤦🏽♂️
LV R10 he said but still he was defending his argument
@@mystixgemzvods no it doesnt decide your future. if youre smart youll make it no matter what
Rule #1 of cheating: Never ace the test.
Yeah honestly
that seriously is seriously the number 1 rule
1st rule of cheating on a test is you do not talk about cheating on the test. 2nd rule of cheating on a test you DO NOT talk about cheating on the test.
Ikr I would have done told him to purposely get questions wrong
But I aced my Algebra I test...
That reporter thinks she's so smart lmao
she shld be ashamed
Xavier Solis she's a dumbasss beezy😂
Xavier Solis I got a joke ,ready,
Women's rights
Guys I have a question , If a Instructor lets a guy with different name and surname on his passport compared to his registration sheet . The guy was so clever. What should I need to do ? Is It legal ? And she was so anxious In a hurry did not let us get ready between sections and she started the timer right away .. And they changed the test center to a completely different place with no security no good tables and chaires it was absolutely disappointing and there were 15-20 students friends cheated .Giving small papers to each others and etc but she let them . Can someone help me what should I do ? ??
HAMMER PRODUCTIONS what does this have to do with women rights LMAO
This man is an American hero. Exposing this ridiculous testing system.
exactly...it is so ridiculous
KolTony Not for high school diploma, but elite universities want higher test scores.
The testing system isnt ridiculous at all tbh.
Carl Grimes's Eyepatch I’ve been wondering what you smell like?
@@Hostility1812 😂😂😂
I can't help but admire the kid's entrepreneurial spirit.
Spoken like a perfect Republican from PIGLANDIA.
William inUS stop spamming the comment you small brained imbecile😂. This is why the nation os divided.
@@iancampion6979 loool
By the look of the reporter's condescending face, it seems like her kid didn't get into the college that one of his clients did.
Ik right!
Lmaoooo
Lol no chill but probably true
tru.
Anika Parashar soooo true😂👍😂
People are disappointed in him. But all I'm thinking is LEGEND
tru
Mason Exp - no, he enabled one kid who did not deserve to get in, to take the place of someone else who should have got in but was cheated out of his place
Depends what you classify as deserving lol.
agreed
His money didn't trump right and wrong. What trumps right and wrong is how a piece of paper defines the character and potential of peoples lives
Thankyou
Yeah but it's to get you in college
+David V. True but I don't think one moment should decide the whole course of your life
Sean Sellon this test doesn't really decide your life it's a major role in what can sort of change your life but I it really isn't the course of your life, like in Japan those tests are what decide your life you can only take it once if you fail you fail life
+David V. Not going to college is like playing Counter strike without internet
who snitched
hey laura im actually pretty suprised that nobody blackmailed him
Prime Records you are an IDIOT!!!!!!! 800 is only a perfect score if you took 1/2 of the SAT’s....... 1600 is perfect!!!!!
@@hemolacria 😂😂😂
@@-tee--bee-3230 wooooooooooooooosh
How did I miss the joke?
The entire purpose of the SAT is to gauge how well a student will do in college. If those students who cheated are doing fine in those colleges, doesn't that say something about the SAT? These standardized tests are a ploy to make money, nothing more.
ArcticAnDroid Well yea, but also, this guy admitted to cheating just 16 times, but he may have taken it more. I don't think those 16 kids are proud of themselves five years later, after they've probably finished college. And maybe they didn't finish, maybe they dropped out bc they realized college classes were too difficult. The SAT is definitely suppose to be more reflective of college exams than those you receive in hs. They have a validity and I don't see why everyone is blaming the system. Like wtf..you need an academic standard to be accepted into a higher education course!
The SAT is one of the best indicators of college performance. Sure you have some lower scoring students outperforming higher scoring students, but in general the higher the score the better the college performance.
The SAT has nothing to do with college or life imo, it's just a measure of how good you are at taking standardized tests. I performed higher than several of my friends on the SAT, but I know for a fact that they are smarter than me and perform higher than me in most of my classes. Knowing how to answer the questions that the SAT asks doesn't teach you anything about life skills or the stress of college.
It's not how well a student will do in college, just if they learned the info they needed to in HS to advance onto college.
High School is what is SUPPOSED to prepare kids for college (it doesn't).
i did average on the SAT but got a 4.0 in my engineering program. SAT doesn't mean anything
I think that more than anything this exposes the ridiculousness that somebody's future relies completely on 1 test.
Tru
agreed
That one test shows you have a nice blend of ability to sit quietly and concentrate/being smart right before you go to college where you'll sit for hours and have to concentrate.
Alexander Milentis Well I’m not a genius and I did it from a public school so why can’t other ppl do it
WOW this is so true unfortunately that’s why we seem so many kids in gangs and bad stuff because they can’t get into higher education they need money somehow
i don't get why this lady is comparing him to a murderer? like he's a smart guy. shouldn't the kids he cheated for be prosecuted?
aloha anna it's like dealer vs buyers he's the big fish and his clients are the small ones
Exactly it’s bad what he did but it can save somebody’s life
And ruin the kid who actually studied... He's cheating.
Pretty much everyone involved was arrested. The people covering their faces were the students who hired him.
I doubt the kids that got 96th percentile on the test ended up ruined.
He went to jail then got released no one else got in trouble and no one learned anything. I just saved you 14 min of your life but wasted like 5 sec reading this.
Iván Melgarejo how long did he go to jail
Wrong i waisted 6 seconds lol
Wtf I just wasted more time tying 🤦🏽
he has a criminal record so that means that almost every business will never hire him so his life is still technically got a punishment
What you talking about. This video gave us insight into how this whole thing is done. Through this in depth interview we learn that the world isn't black and white and we don't really have to play by the rules, it's possible to get away with certain things. We get to see the demeanor of an intelligent person, listen to the things that they would say and the way they respond to trick questions etc. This video isn't a waste of this it's super interesting and educational.
I love how people look at this and think the kid is the problem, when the reality is the TEST is the problem. What in god's name does the SAT tell us about students? Honestly? How much harder is it to cheat on a GPA instead?
while I do find it unfair for the students who do work for their grades and success, I still have to say fuck ETS and their damn tests. gave me so much stress back in high school. the SAT ONLY measures how good you are at taking the test. it does NOT accurately reflect a student's intelligence or predict how well they will succeed later in life.
Since schools vary widely in academic rigor, GPA isn't a very good metric of a student's ability either. What would you propose would be a better alternative?
+Kevin Le I think the problem is that the sat and just standardize tests in general are plain stupid. They ask you the most ridiculous questions that don't and never will apply to 99% of test takers lives; furthermore, is a student who studied 5 minutes before taking a test to remember some random fact more qualified than a student who spent 5 hours memorizing but didn't remember? School in general is a huge waste of time unless you are directly going to school to train for an exact job. When am I realistically going to use Pythagorean Theorem? When I get a job involving math? No and even if I did the resources of my time allow me to easily research it from almost anywhere on the Internet to refresh my memory yet I remember spending hours in school being tested on things like that. "You can't always rely on the Internet for everything" fuck you engineers spent their lives making the Internet as great as it is and it has become the single most useful learning device you sayicantuseit
Exactly!!
Matthew Walters I'd counter that it's less about the result and more about the process. It's not that you'll be to apply the Pythagorean Theorem in real life, but you'll learn to think in different ways and be able to have the capacity to solve complex problems.
Also, learning basic geometry and what not is just an application of the algebra that cements your understanding algebraic math in general. To say that algebra doesn't affect your field of learning would be incorrect.
Once again, I see the same flaws in the SATs as you do, but until we have an efficient method to test the mental capacity of millions of students at one time... its, unfortunately, the best we have.
I find it interesting that he didn't just take the cliche road of "I am ashamed of what I did" and "I made a mistake". I like the fact that he can acknowledge that he did something wrong without saying that he was sorry he did it. That takes guts. Not that what he did was right but I still commend him for that one.
Don't apologize if you're not sorry.
+iamkarenh exactly, you said it.
Morgan's Tech The real crime is standardized tests. And for those kids who got into colleges on fraudulent scores...well it's up to them to succeed in college.
Agreed
techEtiquette In a way I love what he did because he exposed a bad testing system and on top of that he's a businessman, he had a service that he gave to other people and made a good chunk of change from it lol
If it wasn't illegal I would pay him to take my exam
laury Rodriguez
If I didn’t have to eat I wouldn’t
> Logic
Rome I would
For real
laury Rodriguez I’m ur 1k like
laury Rodriguez Same.
she mad cause she got a triple digit SAT score
Jonathan S.H.K lmao
Hah
Cheat - Spoken like a perfect Republican from PIGLANDIA.
My dawg finessing the system
My nigga
real nigga
real nigga
Simon Perro
boss revs This is the FBI we know where you live
The lawyer seems like the aunt that hates children and no one knows why
Oeste no she’s a mother whose kids got average scores had to go to average schools and she’s convinced they didn’t get into the ivies because of a broken system
>spends 11 million dollars on security
>no security in place
Where did that money go lol
Matt Plays GUMMY BEAAARRRSSSS :D
Matt Plays i asked myself that question too lol. it is all bull
Blow and snazzy hats
It all probably went to Kurt the security guy and his big fat paycheck
A government non-profit institution is wasteful and inefficient. Who would've thought?
When this guy gets out of jail he should write a book on his journey or even an SAT prep book
For real dogg
he never went to jail lmaoo
If they caught all the students that cheated, he probably snitched on all of them, because there’s no way that all the students he took the test for just got charged.
When she said "isnt he taking the spot of someone else who deserves it?" I wouldve said "he shouldve hired me then"
If you don't know the story I'm here to tell ya
+FaZe Sahign what happened?
Most people don't realize that the SAT is a business, not some government issued test that legitimately analyzes skills of the test taker. It is run by the College Board, which is actually a company and not a "board". Their tests are designed in such a way that unless you are in the top 1% of geniuses, you cannot finish everything on the test in time. The scores you need to pass an AP test for instance are really strange. You can pass some of them with only getting 35-40% correct. Yet for all these tests, you are required to pay to take. And if you want to send these scores to a school, you're looking at 11$ extra per report. I think it's ridiculous that such a business is allowed to dominate the education system.
AgentAndroid all of those fees can be waived based on income
AgentAndroid I know it's a scam, but I scored a 1510/1600 it's not the hardest test
Allen Li The reason it’s hard is because of the way the questions are put. It’s really simple linear algebra and simple division rules. Yes though, definitely hard to answer if you aren’t used to it.
I got a 1410
I've only scored a 1350, but I've never run out of time. Also this test isn't made for the "top 1%" because if you look at exams in places like South Korea, our SAT is the easiest thing in the world.
College Board deserves this. A corrupt monopoly no student applying to American college can avoid. Absolutely asinine.
Finally somebody said it.
this lady's facial expressions just piss me off. she tries to look like she's so clever and saying something that everyone else isn't thinking already.
Hahaha yeah she says obvious stuff lol you're right and she smiles first lol
6:15
Oh I got so fucking mad. Obvious cut of what he REALLY said, taken completely out of context.
I hate her tone, it's kind of aggressive. She thinks she's smart and so much better
Nikhiel Biswas yo good one man
farhanorakzai it’s her job
the reporter also thinks she is the smartest person in the world
LMAO they are talking about him like he is a hitman.
Kaspars Matusevics "academic hitman" my eyes cannot roll harder
“He always got the job done” headass
LMAO
*Don’t blame the Player BLAME the Game*
He didn’t cheat, he just found bugs in the game and exploited them
*Loophole
16 times that's it? I thought she was gonna say a shocking number like 600.
Robert I mean that’s still pretty good considering how many test dates there are in a year
Why is this reccomended
same
Wondering same thing.
I wonder that too
Thinking the same thing
same
This kid is awesome and the fact that he scored so high so many times gives schools a better impression of him.
He’s the Robin Hood of the new era but because it was against the system 🤦♂️...
Yeah, I'm sure schools have a better impression of him after he repeatedly committed criminal fraud and shat on the system that is integral to their admissions process.
Schools like criminals, good logic.
97 percentile isn't high............
for asians at a top high school.
@@ryanchecks5145 Lol it's really not all that high. From his interview, I can see how his scores are skewed toward the math side. This guy probably consistently scored 780-800 on the math section and 680-700 on the reading and writing sections. I would have charged less and gotten students 750+ in both sections if I were as dissolute as this guy.
I think he can make a lot of money running an SAT prep clinic or something
Jimmy McManus yeah u can make hundreds of thousands tutoring a year
Thomas Markee if you’re being sarcastic, I meant like a tutoring company that would offer classes and stuff, not just private tutoring for his neighbors or whatever
He’s now a tutor.
The problem i have with this 60 minutes segment is that it refuses to aknowledge the REASON for students cheating on standardized tests. They say over and over again; he cheated on an important test he cheate wah wah but they never say; the reason why he cheated was because the tests are largely outdated (they've been going since 1926), and there is an extreme problem with the system of education in our world.
Faze adapt?
Holl K The reason he cheated was because he wanted money. This guy is NOT some sort of activist aimed at repairing our educational system. He's just a criminal.
@@pearspeedruns I was supporting his ideas until allowed students to enter a bidding war over his services.
SParkApCider It's perfectly fine for you to have a problem with our current testing system. But this guy isn't trying to "make a difference;" he's just trying to justify his side business.
this guy got students into college let him keep doing it
He did it illegally, some people actually have to work HARD to get into college. It's not fair to them.
+Philip Ottey wtf ? i was a foreigner 5 years ago. I went to the U.S for only 1 year for my senior year and i took the SAT. my score was 1250. Native american should do waaay better than that
+simon cao I have never been to an English-speaking country, neither of my parents speaks English well, and I got 2090 on the SAT for the first time...
ivoshkin you are something else :P . Jk . I'm just a normal student with little knowledge of English back then. Even now , I'm not fully prepared. My thing is its impossible for native speaker to score below my grade
+Marc Arriaga Yes, he got into college a bunch of cheats that took the seats of other students that studied; very nice!
Colleges don't care who gets into their school all they care about is who's got the money...
Danny Dressel until you apply with the lowest income bracket with *very* good scores
*_Trump's Wall_* nah the college still only cares about money, but if you are really good you‘ll get a scholarship and someone else will pay the college:)
Danny Dressel if colleges didn’t care about who went to their school everyone will get accepted into Harvard and Princeton
Moritz Schindler If you’re low income they’re still getting the money through federal grants or student loans so they don’t really care..
Why is everyone on here complaining about greed? Almost every college in the US in nonprofit. They use tuition to provide financial aid and build new programs. Nobody's making a corporate profit off of leading a top university. (The few colleges that are for-profit are often the online ones, such as Full Sail)
Who would WANT to take the SAT 16 Times?!?!?
Someone who wants 16 * $2500
rsa edits for $2500
Someone who’s getting paid thousands of dollars.
I would do it for 500
It's just taking the same awful test multiple times and for $2500 a pop. He's basically being paid to make other people look good, the educational equivalent of a makeup artist.
Yes. The system does need to change. Standardized tests are a joke.
The entire public school system is a joke
What's standardized testing ? I'm from Ireland our systems our different
+Jennifer N *are
+Jennifer N
It's a type of test that people take and it's used to compare people. It can tell colleges what most people score and people who score high probably perform better.
As far as community colleges I don't think the score matters at all. ACT and SAT aren't even hard tests. If they weren't timed, I bet most people would score really high.
+ironmantis25 Not the entire public school system.
this guy is the freaking Harriet Tubman of academics...
That metaphor is great lol
...give me 20 bucks
Majestical Meg #Facepalm
Yes, I can see how taking the test for people who are too lazy to attempt it themselves is akin to being like Harriet Tubman. 🤨
Hmm. Taking the SAT is a choice. I guess you agree with Kanye West then.
Standardized testing shouldn't define students' worth anyways.
TuccTownLaydii you are stupid. There are no unfair advantages or disadvantages on standardized tests. If a kid knows something racism can't stop him getting a good score, being poor can't stop him getting a good score, being in a situation where you can't do homework
Rick Harrison cool story
@@arizexas he's kinda right. how else are we gonna gauge literally every student in America's academic ability. if someone wants to stand out in a different way then they can volunteer for hundreds of hours or be more involved in clubs or community activities. the SAT/ACT is the option that academically inclined students like me take, students that can't afford to volunteer and be involved all day because they're too busy trying to get good grades
Doing well on one test doesn't mean you will perform well on future tests. If you only got into a good college because you had a high SAT score and bad grades then the system is broken. Even if they got into a good college, it doesn't mean they will do well in their classes, and might get bad grades there. Which means they wasted their money to get there.
SAT gives you money for school, if you score high enough. I've had a few friends score a few hundred points short of a perfect score, and they got almost full tuition (25k-30k). P sure if you got a perfect score or the score this guy was getting for people, wasting money isn't even a problem(cause the students probably got a full scholarship to almost any IVY league).
Having a high gpa and low test scores shows you are not very smart and had your grades inflated or played the system and took easy classes, your just mad u got a bad score.
Yeah and college is taking money from kids so they can do classes over and over again so they don't care if you have bad grades on classes they want them leaves
Tbh, once they get in, they just have to pass to get their degrees and masters ect. As long as they get the piece of paper in the end, alls set.
If i had to hire someone for an office job, i would definitely hire him, you should not care about his criminal charges when it was something like this
Yeet God 😐😑 Yes you should. If he doesn't have integrity with this, then he probably won't have integrity for most other things either. I'd be concerned as hell about hiring him.
Sure, hire him. A month later you find out the name on his application wasn't even his.
"Do you feel bad about what you did?"
"If I could start over, I never would've done it."
But no, he doesn't feel bad. This kid is smart.
shiit i didnt realize that
why should he feel bad about this? He outsmarted the system and was caught. Like any other business man :)
This kid gives no F's. He is just reading the script
That Afro Chick This kid gives no F’s. He guarantees his clients to give them A’s lmao
I feel like the SAT system is broken.
+William M Don't be fucking cynical about it; a kid's future shouldn't be entirely based upon how well they take one fucking test
well everyone in comments that didn't benefit from system has a criticism but no solution. Let's hear your solution. Cuz nothing is perfect soooooo we gonna criticize all day long.
It’s so easy to say that. But can you find a better solution?
the interviewer was annoying the whole time. so judgemental.
Youll be in jail by the time you're 22. And you will deserve to be.
William inUS LMAOOOOOO is everything okay at home
William inUS yo why u gotta just insult him/her for no reason
Paydaywolf 2008 her, but ikr lmaooo but i’m chilling
Props to this dude. The test is screwed, and he knows it... he's smart, someone you want on your side...
I don't really want a criminal on my side.
Ban SAT
Timothy Wong I'm guessing you didn't do well?
@@pearspeedruns Unfortunately they run corporations and sit in at the highest offices in the country. Not all sociopaths are in cages.
SParkApCider I agree with that. I still wouldn't associate with this guy.
You spend 11 million on security but you're not surprised about this guy?
the reporter is so irritating
W
+Park Ranger Nalte i presume you're asking why haha she comes across as very snide and condescending in this video
+Carole Lim no he means a win
+Park Ranger Nalte HA oh dear i'm so out of the loop. thanks for telling me! now i know why people are typing "L" everywhere
+Carole Lim
No lie. It felt like she was attacking in a very subtle way
I think the interviewer is low key jealous of the guy.
Yo is this guy still available for my SAT or nah?
mbj920 No lol
I wish
You can probably get him to tutor you for SAT testing
Do they seriously have to be hancuffed? They didnt kill anybody smh...
+prinsen115 LOL, he is obviously dangerous. Who knows what else he might do with those hands he used to write the SAT many times with?
+prinsen115 And they took offense like he committed murder, yet in reality he is helping good people who suck on SATs pass. Also, why must colleges rely on this SAT/ACT testing? bad enough they gangrape you if you need a student loan and they make money off of you for parking, living, eating, and reading at their stupid campuses(not counting credited classes and books). Don't get me started with the SAT is your life thing since every teacher(where I live) encourages you to get tutors and books, which don't even help that much since they randomize the test each time and guarantee a few points on the test(I've done SATs numerous times and only got a 1080, yet a 3.4 GPA throughout high school).
+prinsen115 I think its for psychological effect not because he's dangerous. Put someone in cuffs and force them to do the walk of shame with all those reporters taking pictures is super degrading and that is the point.
ptm374 If I were that guy, I would've hid my part of my earnings somewhere where the police can't find, and get the best lawyer to bail my ass out or least reduce the sentence from this bullshit if I get caught.
This guy isn't a real criminal. Just like those guys on Wall Street.
Strangely enough, I'm mad at the kids who hired him, because it was cheating and wrong, but not at Sam. In fact, I applaud him. He had a skill. He turned it into a business. And I kind of think his whole operation was genius. Say what you will about him, he gets a nod from me.
+javalin597 I honestly don't blame the kids. The SATs are (somehow still) important to getting into college, despite the awful requirements. The short time limits, trick questions, how they score wrong answer, and a lot more bullshit. If you were told by your friends that a perfect test taker that takes the SATs all the time for kids so they can get the grades to be on the top picks of colleges so you don't end up working at McDonalds & you didn't have to take a several hour long bullshit test, why wouldn't you take that offer? If the US wanted to get their shit together, they would have already discontinued this test or improve the test where you don't pay and have no time limit.
Hmm, you do make a good point actually. Yeah I would definitely agree that the US's outdated system is at the core of all this. I think Jon Oliver did a segment arguing that very thing as well.
+javalin597 I dont think you can blame the kids either. They used their own advantages to the fullest. Namely, they had money and they used in a certain way
The real crime is having 40 minutes to do 75 questions
Metkel Samuel wait what I did not know that I’m a kid
Jassiah Thompson lol it’s not true just an exaggeration
Antroicz oh
Antroicz it is true have you taken the ACT English section?
Lmao his client's colleges never got notified, talk about money well spent
This is the worst part of the whole issue.
Christian Aliferis If they're performing good in college then is it really?
AlexTheGamer97 Positive results for a group doesn't overrule ethics.
I know this is old but, these reporters and media members are just the worst non-criminal in the world. Self-righteous and looking down on everyone in almost every story.
CJHarvest774
They are pathetic. They don't challenge the broken system but viciously attack the people fighting against the broken system. Every important event in US history happened with a fundamental change in the system, for good and for bad.
Shark Wave These people aren't activists! They're not trying to fix the system; they're just trying to cheat it for personal gain.
Christian Aliferis But their actions do prove a point about how the US education system works
Exactly. I was dissapointed when teh kid said he felt bad. There's absolutely nothing to feel bad for.
He looks so proud of himself, this guy is going to keep doing stuff like this...
He just wants to make money, the other people are at fault. They'll be the ones that go corrupt, not him.
The R6 Fighter Pilot no, look at his eyes man, he's excited by the rush of possibly getting caught, not only that, he thinks he's smarter than people, the kids cheating end being losers or killing themselves when they are not performing well. He on the other hand likes being the smartest guy in the room. with his talent, he could intern or get a good job, he's choosing something that has risk, because he gets off on it
On top of that, he doesn't show remorse, he's justified that these people should get opportunity, because they have money... If that's not a sign of sociopathy... Idk what is
+Spider-manana it isnt that serious man
John Johnson Haha for real. He's getting paid to take a test. He knows how life works. You have to cheat your way sometimes to get money. You can't be the guy that lives a normal life and expect to be rich. You have to go do the work. And that's all this kid was doing.
The R6 Fighter Pilot It's sad how you guys are impressed by stuff like this... making money isn't the end all be all. If you think that way (like this kid does), you'll go down a bad path. I really don't want to sit here and lecture, but the laws there for a reason and there are plenty of ways to make 2k regularly without committing crime.
6:15 they obviously edited what he was gonna say afterwards. It definitely sounded like he was still talking but they didn’t want to show him making logical sense so they cut it
Good eye
Nice catch lol
explain the difference between this and wealthy people bribing or paying their way into a school of their choosing.
Yes!
The wealthy person is paying while the SAT cheater will get tons of scholarship money or a academic full ride scholarship they don't deserve
+slick trip I'm talking about the people who pay an administrator or use their name and power to become accepted. These people don't deserve their spot on a school either. I've never heard of scholarships for sat scores.
Maybe instead of trying to change the system they should just discontinue the SAT's 😬
Emily Caja that's the stupidest thing I ever heard
Ben Solis You must've not heard of 'feminism needed in the 21st century' then
Ben Solis I was kinda joking lol. Even though sitting in a silent classroom for 4 hours while taking the test is kind of annoying
They won't do it as long as their lining their own pockets.
Emily Caja Because then all you’re left with is high school GPA and schools are of inconsistent quality. That’s why you need a *standardized* test where the results are calibrated to be consistent nationwide. It’s not perfect, but better than admitting people at random.
Well the SATs and ACTs aren't a very good way of gauging how intelligent a student is or how much they learned in HS. I had a friend in high school who had finished college-level cal 3, linear, and differentials math classes, yet she got a lower math score than I did on the ACTs, though I just barely scraped through cal 1. I have another friend who was our class's valedictorian, who is a math tutor and finished cal 3 with ease. Yet she also got a lower math score than me. Does that mean that they're worse than me at math? Not at all. It just shows that I'm luckier, maybe, or maybe I'm a bit better at taking tests. Standardized testing is riddled w faults.
that pretty much somes it up
Not only that, but based on the grade a student consistently gets throughout high school needs to play a bigger effect. If they work that hard in HS, they will in college too. It needs to be more of an overall perspective of the person. Throughout all of those years we've taken hundreds of tests. And even places like New York we need to take so many final tests called Regents just to be able to graduate. Adding in the SAT is just ridiculous in my opinion.
are you suggesting we should eliminate the one and only standardized test you need to crack and study for and just go with GPA,classes, and EA?
+Jack G It needs to play a smaller effect. And who said anything about EA?
Jonah Danny Blue need is such a strong word.... I thought school always look at your extracurricular activities for admission. Really should just stop complaining about the SAT, foreign country laugh at how easy our math section is. They even took away the writing portion lowering the score to 1600.
This is aweasome, he is a great business man. Hes probably going to make millions in the future. A smart person knows how to exploit their talents and make money out of them. He is smart
Plundering will never work...
@@wesjay7780 look at the comment above you
@@wesjay7780 Are you aware of how far some students would be willing to go for a spot in the college of their dreams, or at the very least a good test grade on their resume? Depending on his prices for SAT/ACT guides, test takers, or even more professional help, he would be making millions! In this education system, plundering would work almost _too_ well!
he owns a real estate business now and hes making bank
This dude is a badass
Asshole tho
+Jack DeRoche agreed
+Jack DeRoche not at all an asshole. the SAT is a very unhealthy way of testing that puts a lot of pressure on some students that couldn't handle it. the test is made so important that those students willingly pay someone else to do the test for them. the fact that he managed to do the test for others doesn't make him an asshole
He is a savage.
+ Jasper Kole - I agree about the pressure of these tests. The only way you can succeed is by treating it like a game. A game you can win. Once you get intimidated by the test, you have already lost.
So he got arrested for being to smart?
He got arrested for fraud, and he impersonated them, illegal.
Coffee Impersonated them with their consent tho
Olaf That doesn't really matter, you can't stab somebody with their permission, and they BOTH committed fraud by letting him impersonate them.
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Taking the SAT for someone else is illegal.
Man, I love this guy, although on the surface he may just look like a deluded guy with no integrity, he really is helping to expose the propaganda behind standardized test, and unmasking how corrupt standardized testing is to students who deserve a chance. I don't condone cheating, but I do condone exposing a corrupt system.
Amen to that
If only I knew about him sooner...
Imagine my test scores.
dude id be at harvard
Lmao
I wish high schools would offer an elective class that will teach you how to take the SAT/ACT rather than paying a shit ton for a private class. Since they don't have writing section, they should make you take 2 math and 2 cr sections as your monthly exam and give you a grade equivalent of what you score on it. Like 1000 = C, 1100 = B-, 1200 = B+, 1300+ = A
Some schools do. Your school just sucks!
Probably no budget for the little schools to do that. Good idea though.
BRBallin1 My school does but why would you take it? There are so many valuable courses I rather take. The SAT course will not help me raise my GPA.
BRBallin1 Some high schools do offer an SAT prep class but they aren't as helpful as the classes that you have to pay for. Also, the scores that you matched up with to the grades doesn't even make any sense. A 1300 should be almost equivalent to a D- considering the maximum score of the SAT is a 2400 (which would be an A+), divide that by two and you get a 1200 (an F).
Jeesoo Lee They are changing back to 1600 format so I used that :)
My question is why do collages want a sat / act score, when they have 4 years of data collected from 9-12 when the sat is only 3-4 hours.
I8THEmagictoaster it's a way to see what you've learned and remembered throughout the years. It also sort of is like a placement test to see where you stand as some colleges are more difficult.
True, the test can be biased because of anxiety etc therefore a 3-4 hour test is not proven to be accurate. However... That being said may highschools are at different levels. One highschool's A might be different from anothers highschool's A and their tests might be totally different. Therefore 1 standardised test across every highschool *can* be seen as advantageous. Not that I agree with standardised tests but it has it's perks.
Some High Schools are more academically rigorous than others. The SAT/ACT gives you a look at their performance on an even playing field.
Another problem with looking at just High School is that you can have "Study Wonders" who get high grades because they put in a lot more time studying than most of the other students. It's good they're so dedicated, but being a Study Wonder won't help them as much when they have to deal with the more challenging material and heavier course load in college. The SAT gives you a good idea of their true scholastic aptitude.
That’s not really fair either. One of my friends is truly quite dumb but his GPA is 4.0 unweighted because his school makes it so easy! My school on the other hand is IB and academically challenging so someone getting a 3.7 here would count for more. Therefore the SAT which is the same for everyone will showcase that the “friend” is actually a worse student than the one in the IB school.
M G Most colleges look at your grades in relation to your high school's averages. So if your friend's school really does give A's to everyone, then the admissions department is aware of that.
God damn where was this guy when I was taking the SATs
King Jordanii their colleges didn't get notified and they're still in college so if they did get in trouble it wasn't that bad
King Jordanii it says it in the video? Did you even watch it?
King Jordanii they said in the video that they can't legally do anything about the people who cheated. Again apparently you didn't watch
Girl you’re hot
Keep up the good work Sky
It's not that deep, these kids just want to go to college. I ain't mad at it
Does anyone know if this dude is still in the business?
bihh jus study , BOFL
Watch the video they literally say he got arrested and they are interviewing him
Fr nigga according to my state, I'm retarded (Christmas tree every test) yet back when I did try in 3rd grade I had a highschool+ reading level, 😂😂😂i can probably pass that shit
+FLA SHIT cool
+FLA SHIT youre so cool everyone wishes they were you
That plea deal is the best joke I've heard all day.
Tutoring how to take SAT. They got the legend to teach kids LOL
Maybe if these tests weren't so hard, people wouldn't do this. These tests determine a person's success in life and that just isn't fair.
Taking a college spot from someone who deserved it??? What a joke.
Lol true
Is it?
Spoken like a perfect Republican from PIGLANDIA.
Idk why something about this comment slightly irks me
@@williaminus6545 spamming the same reply to everyone doesn't make it more true.
i hate exam based school. they say they're preparing you for the real world but in the real world your boss isn't going to hand you a piece of paper and say here take this test so our company can make more money. school should be project based because that's a more realistic representation of a real life scenario
I️ agree with you god, schools need to be more creative and realistic as to what life is going to be like
It would just be a lot harder to make the SAT project based. You can't expect a project to be finished in a single testing block, and if you let them do it at home, then they can easily have someone else do it, and students are more dependent on being able to spend money on materials, etc. SAT and ACT are the best we've got at the moment.
God - Your inability to use punctuation properly or to capitalize the beginning of each sentence only weakens your argument.
This shows how fucked the school system is. It's so much pressure on young people and only a number chooses the rest of your life. Maybe at that time you aren't as smart or you aren't mature enough and it just chooses the rest of your career and what you do in life it's really fucked
Koto Español - No, it only shows how lazy kids are and how unwilling they are to do what it takes to achieve success. Paying somebody to take your college entrance exam only serves to indicate that you don’t have what it takes to tackle the academic rigor of a top notch college or university. Besides, kids can skip the ACT/SAT and go the community college route instead and be just as successful, so it’s not like they don’t have options. I would say that these kids are trying to take the easy way out by getting somebody else to do the hard work for them. That right there is not the fault of our school system.
If the SAT/ACT didn't exist in the first place, many people would be much happier. The system is to blame, not this kid.
Are u stupid... The kid did a crime.. He is to blame... SAT test are used for colleges.. They are not stupid they have a purpose.. I do agree tho that they need to make it impossible to cheat on them
SAT and ACT are poorly-constructed, money machines anyways. The kid is to blame in this situation though.
How can a college fairly assess someone based on a gpa the school system is corrupt the sat fixes that problem
Thomas Williams Nah, the SAT asks too many one dimensional questions (plug in numbers, basic sentence structure, etc) and doesn't test a lot of important skills that are useful to college students. Most good universities have mechanisms for gauging how good your score is relative to others in your high school.
A kid that smart could probably escape prison.
This kid is a fuckin hero
Jack Murd I agree, and way he speaks on why he did it at 5:40 is great. Makes me think he's some kind of academic Robin Hood.
Jack Murd The funny thing is, Great Neck NY is also the area where infamous Jordan Belfort started up his firm at Lake Success and began making millions.
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Jack Murd This boy deserves a medal, and a cookie, and a trophy, fuck it, give him a crown!!!!!
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The SAT doesn't measure intelligence. It only measures how well you can take a test.
Mark Brown Untrue.
Shakespeare no... not untrue
Hello :) It doesn't necessarily determine how well you can take a test. You can't be an idiot and expect to do well on the SAT. You have to have some higher brain functioning to answer certain questions in the amount of time given. You may be able to get away with a high writing or math score, but you can't learn the rules of effectively reading and comprehending; that's directly related to intelligence.
Shakespeare You're stubborn. Of course anyone who's intellectually disabled, such as an autistic kid with an IQ of 70, wouldn't prove successful on the SAT. But the fact of the matter is that the overall test scores of those with an average IQ wouldn't show any correlation between level of intelligence and success. It should be obvious, the SAT is based on curriculum, it's not a test for aptitude.
It tests your intelligence, logical and conceptual applicative skills.
The SAT does not test knowledge. The SAT tests your ability to take the SAT. The math, reading, and writing on the SAT is not what students learn in schools. You could be a stellar AP trig student and do poorly on the SAT, and your chances of a good college are out of play. That's why this system must change.
PillowNinja99 theres also people like me who suck during tests. For some reason I always managed to no do well on test like the SAT. I believe its like you said that the test is not really what you learned in school. Thats why you have all these companys making practice tests and flash cards to memorize this specific test.
U sucked on it didn't u lol
His jump shot is wack
Hahaha!!!
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"Isn't that kid taking the spot of someone who deserves that"
"Idiot really care about that"
Fucking savage
I dont
WHy shoud he think about them?
I don't not idiot...
I didnt study for mine.. I didnt think it was that important. I still got in the colleges I wanted. Fact is this SAT is not a good indicator of intelligence or even smarts.
I dont really care that someone along me in college cheated on their SAT, college and work will expose them if they continue. Really at the end of the day can you do the work, are you competent, and so on that matters. There are plenty of people who did better than me on SAT but they couldnt do what I do.
+vysoc Than I, not "me".
It mostly matters for huge state schools. And if you say it doesn't count for them then you are wrong
MrWolves321
I did well enough on the sat and act despite not getting ready for it in any way to, and I got into some great colleges. I am not saying you shouldn't study to do the best you can, just because it worked for me doesn't mean it will work for you. Tests is what we have on mass scale, we just have to go by it. Generally people who do extremely well on exams like sat and act are pretty smart though. These exams just point to the fact that there is a good chance one is fit for higher education.
+vysoc Yes you got into your school of choosing, but with a perfect SAT score you would have been able to go there on a full ride.
+Simi Tometi Choice.
Damn these kids for wanting a higher level of education!
Is it weird that I find him attractive after learning about this?
No it's not. Your question answers the question of why deathrow inmates get letters from women all over the country that love them...a criminal they don't know. If that doesn't say that human nature is twisted I don't know what does.
Jim Kline I don’t see him as a criminal just a guy who is very smart and athletic. Football and a talent for acing tests including the Sat. I’m mean wowz.
Ah...got ya
@@mclilzenthepoet2331 no, he's not a murderer. Just a low level felone. It still raises the question why she finds him attractive AFTER finding out about his crime.
This is how big business owners started
Ha ha so funny
MattMoans thats actually true they exploit the system first then when they get rich they will do something for the poor to put the people on their side.
Hey Here's a simple fix, don't make high school kids take the Act
Why would that fix the SAT?
Christian Aliferis you’re obviously not in high school
This guys literally a real life Mike Ross
Just get rid of the SAT and ACT. There's no freaking point anyway like seriously. I get 4.0s but when it comes to the standardized testing I bomb it every time. There's no real point to it. It's telling that teens are worried and upset enough about 1 stupid test and the impact it has on their future that they'd hire someone else to take it for them and do well on it.
They didn't hire nothing.
Mommy and daddy did.
You have to have $$$ to hire stuff out. :)
That could just mean your school doesnt teach to the standard of the SAT. Sat and act sucks but it can really show the difficulty of your school. 4.0 at one school can translate to a 3.5 at another
This Journalist is frustrating. What is with the faces she's making. She looks like a judgmental PTA mom, except the man she's playing holier than thou with is a genius.
How can she be so condescending when she's talking to a genius
I bet she one of those people who support Black Lives Matter.
Someone chose a WOC to interview him for a reason.
dropped out of school now we dumb rich
YASSSS lmao
That sound like some 4301 shit
+Weston Pringle turn My birthday in to a life style
+Zackarias Strindlund shit*
Pinksparklees holy fuck i was saying this line way before even watching this video . this comment blew my mind, lets fuck
He know he should feel shameful, but deep inside, he takes pride.
I would be flattered if I were him. Now everyone knows he's a genius
Why ask him the simplest of questions? This interviewer expects only one answer, and pushes him to it. It gets really annoying. Yes, what he did is unethical, but he is likely smarter than you academically, should the interviewer really find it necessary to force an apologetic reply out of him? Already, with his prior answer, where he mentions saving several kids, you can tell he knew what he was doing.
+John Trollinski (SalvadorSTM) He is only acting like he is sorry. Because he plead guilty and is probably in probation or bail something. If he said anything like I don't care, he will go to jail again. The kid is smart
+John Christian He wouldn't go to jail for saying he that he doesn't care. Kid is smart, but he isn't acting that he's sorry.
Fabian Aguilar in US, the court gives sentences based on what the Jury says. So if he acts like he is sorry, the jury will be soft on him.
+John Christian Depends on the state you live in. Most states the judge imposes the sentence. Also he has already been convicted so he could say whatever he wanted and they could not try him again. He is most likely just trying to save face so that he doesn't look like a bad guy. What he did just shows what US colleges are really like.
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What a hero. He’s not exaggerating when he says he saves lives