You're praising "smooth weather transitions" but the default weather does this so much better - no need for any "blending" and smooth transitions, you can actually see the weather you're flying in, you can see the weather fronts, you can see the different weather conditions, nothing "smoothly" just appears in front of your eyes, out of the blue, like in REX. I was a big fan of REX in P3D but if you use REX in MSFS you're not experiencing all the new advancements and improvements in weather depiction. Also, the default weather is actually pretty accurate!
After using this for a week I have found that when landing the frame rate is shocking making landing impossible. I like the product but it’s pointless if you can’t land.
At one point you looked out your window and commented that it didn't seem to exactly coincide with the product you are reviewing. I seem to remember another person's review where he said pretty much the same thing. He even said that the stock weather engine came closer to what he saw outside his window.
Tried it. Didn't like it. Framerates went bye-bye and transitions was abrupt.
3 года назад+23
Never been very impressed by REX products and fail to understand the actual reason getting this product since I find what you get with MSFS already is very good in general. Thanks for the review though!
I went with AS after using REX for so long in FSX.. True, the MSFS weather engine is pretty remarkable, but it shows little to no details li, other than 'Sunny', 'Cloudy'.. No basic METAR information for flight planning purposes.. Alas, during MSFS Tech Alpha, I tried to convey that the sim's Wx engine should be good enough that I shouldn't have to have a stand alone weather program just to get accurate weather briefs..
Strange you didn‘t notice that the live-weather isn‘t very accurate and can even vary dramatically with reality, like dense fog or heavy rain and zero visibility during CAVOK conditions…so no, the live weather of MSFS is afwul. It may look good but if live-weather isn‘t depicting the live weather it doesn‘t make sense. I really hope we will have same good weather tools as for P3D and XP.
3 года назад
When I've been flying where I know what the real weather is like, it's mostly been quite accurate. I also heard how both SU6 and 7 will include updates for the live weather. So I won't bother with REX at this time anyway. In my experience, REX has always been very good with marketing and putting out nice looking screenshots. That's about it.
Same feeling here. Their texture products were pretty good back in the day, but not the weather replacements. Lots of marketing and snazzy interfaces, but poor results in my experience. In MSFS the situation may be better (Froogle seems to like it), but the default MSFS weather depiction is good and varied enough (i.e. natural-looking), even if the actual conditions by way of a 'derived' METAR are not available except from ATIS. I believe MSFS is starting to use METARs with SU5 to some extent; at least the last patch notes mentioned this: "Fixed abnormal temperature spikes over airports when the Metar data was not updating often enough". This suggests it uses a global weather model (Meteoblue) with localised weather near airports for better matching with the live METARs now? Just a guess, but no doubt it will continue to improve with time.
I would argue MSFS live weather is better because the REX Weather force sets and transitions the *global* weather, whereas with MSFS live weather you can see different weather fronts approaching in the distance as they are tied to a physical location.
That’s the issue, the MSFS weather is NOT live. It’s model data. Being model data, on the smaller scale it can often be wrong. E.g. The mode may forecast a front to move through at a particular time, say midday, but in reality the front moves through 1-2 hours later. Another example. Models can often under or overdo convective storms. The model may break out thunderstorms over a large area whereas the reality is clear blue skies.
@@hodgeheg480 It’s half and half. Wind, temps and altimeter setting are pulled from METAR data, but clouds, visibility and precipitation come from forecast data. Often they will be similar but of course not always.
@@tjfSIM the metars are often way off, like dense broken clouds, heavy rain and 200m visibility when the actual metar reports visibility 10km+ and just a few clouds. Do you see the prolem?
@@frankbyte As I said, cloud and precipitation come from forecast data, not METARs. So they won’t always be accurate. If REX fixed that problem in a good way then I’m all for it, but from what I’ve read the transitions and weather changes are not handled well, and are causing performance issues. For me that’s too big a price to pay just to have the right cloud formations when you look out of the window.
Yeah, very true. That transition thing kills frames like crazy. I used to know a special setting for REX that would cure that issue. I don't remember what it was though. Still searching.
I remember the old version years ago that you had to turn off its menu system in order for it stop making your frame rates drop on FSX. Does it still get better if you turn it off with FS2020?
@@synthoelectro There is no “menu” per se for it in MSFS 2020, just a separate window. I don’t see any difference with the window minimized or expanded but the config does let you turn off some options that help to save frame rates. Those options make it less realistic, but they do help.
@@willemp6432 I just found a video on youtube with music "Bob Ross Remixed | Happy Little Clouds | PBS Digital Studios". (I won't bother linking to it because youtube links seem to be used as a form of spam now). It would be interesting to see how Bob Ross Happy Clouds is rendered as a dynamic weather theme though. btw, many of my flights in xplane seem to result in 'happy little accidents'.
Sitting on the ramp at KCLT yesterday no thunderstorms even though the current metar and NOAA radar showed thunderstorms at the airport. I then installed Rex Weather and the thunderstorms appeared. Rex weather is much more accurate than MSFS 2020 live weather. The only issue I have is the stuttering introduced by using this. I turned Off the aerosol setting and hopefully the stuttering will go away. Before installing and running Rex Weather MSFS 2020 was virtually smooth for me. Any ideas?
Can you set high clouds to actually look like real wispy cirrus clouds? Msfs default wx makes high clouds look like nothing more than higher, smaller cumulus.
Bought and downloaded yesterday. On balance, a better overall performance from the MS live weather and worth the money. What I did notice is a significant hit on the frame rates that brings back some stuttering when the weather kicks in. Not sure if my GTX980Ti is the issue or the Rex weather. More fiddling required I guess but I too will use ISO FS2020 weather every time.
I have this and it generates amazing accurate weather, the temps are off though. The temps remains the same so if its 30c on the ground the temp will be 30c and only update evey 5000ft.
Yeah, definitely a bug. The METAR clearly shows that winds are out of 330 at 4kt before you hit VIEW. As a matter of fact, all of the winds in all the METARs shown is less than 30KTs. Does "30kts >" mean here "30 knots is greater than what I want"? Because "x < 30kts" is the same as "30kts > x"
It`s a real FLOP ... no man needs such a program ... standard Weather System is amazing & I was waiting for such a good weather machine for years. Save my money for other NEEDED things... dream along...
Bought and installed it on 7/20/2022. Ran rexaxisdesktop.exe on PC. Got RexAxis opening screen, then blank screen that says only 'REX AXIS - Desktop Edition' at the top, then nothing more? PC has Windows 10. Anybody else having same experience?
Bought it yesterday and while it booted without issue on Win11, I checked out an airport under Fiona last night (US) to find it did not inject wind after many attempts. Appears this, like any software, has its bugs/drawbacks at a price.
You're praising "smooth weather transitions" but the default weather does this so much better - no need for any "blending" and smooth transitions, you can actually see the weather you're flying in, you can see the weather fronts, you can see the different weather conditions, nothing "smoothly" just appears in front of your eyes, out of the blue, like in REX. I was a big fan of REX in P3D but if you use REX in MSFS you're not experiencing all the new advancements and improvements in weather depiction. Also, the default weather is actually pretty accurate!
I agree. This looks like a complete waste of money. And I bet it's not as accurate as he's making it out to be.
People always needs options and this is one of many
After using this for a week I have found that when landing the frame rate is shocking making landing impossible.
I like the product but it’s pointless if you can’t land.
@@birdman4274 I agree 👍
At one point you looked out your window and commented that it didn't seem to exactly coincide with the product you are reviewing. I seem to remember another person's review where he said pretty much the same thing. He even said that the stock weather engine came closer to what he saw outside his window.
I don't get it. Live weather transitions in MSFS are already smooth?
It's always a GREAT Day when Frooglesim posts a video, thanks!
Tried it. Didn't like it. Framerates went bye-bye and transitions was abrupt.
Never been very impressed by REX products and fail to understand the actual reason getting this product since I find what you get with MSFS already is very good in general.
Thanks for the review though!
I went with AS after using REX for so long in FSX.. True, the MSFS weather engine is pretty remarkable, but it shows little to no details li, other than 'Sunny', 'Cloudy'.. No basic METAR information for flight planning purposes.. Alas, during MSFS Tech Alpha, I tried to convey that the sim's Wx engine should be good enough that I shouldn't have to have a stand alone weather program just to get accurate weather briefs..
Me too. Why would you want to buy this in it’s current state? Does REX depict the actual weather more accurately than the in-game weather engine?
Strange you didn‘t notice that the live-weather isn‘t very accurate and can even vary dramatically with reality, like dense fog or heavy rain and zero visibility during CAVOK conditions…so no, the live weather of MSFS is afwul. It may look good but if live-weather isn‘t depicting the live weather it doesn‘t make sense. I really hope we will have same good weather tools as for P3D and XP.
When I've been flying where I know what the real weather is like, it's mostly been quite accurate. I also heard how both SU6 and 7 will include updates for the live weather.
So I won't bother with REX at this time anyway. In my experience, REX has always been very good with marketing and putting out nice looking screenshots. That's about it.
Same feeling here. Their texture products were pretty good back in the day, but not the weather replacements. Lots of marketing and snazzy interfaces, but poor results in my experience. In MSFS the situation may be better (Froogle seems to like it), but the default MSFS weather depiction is good and varied enough (i.e. natural-looking), even if the actual conditions by way of a 'derived' METAR are not available except from ATIS.
I believe MSFS is starting to use METARs with SU5 to some extent; at least the last patch notes mentioned this: "Fixed abnormal temperature spikes over airports when the Metar data was not updating often enough". This suggests it uses a global weather model (Meteoblue) with localised weather near airports for better matching with the live METARs now? Just a guess, but no doubt it will continue to improve with time.
I don’t understand the need for this. Especially when so many people are reporting FPS issues. The MSFS weather engine works fine for me.
I would argue MSFS live weather is better because the REX Weather force sets and transitions the *global* weather, whereas with MSFS live weather you can see different weather fronts approaching in the distance as they are tied to a physical location.
That’s the issue, the MSFS weather is NOT live. It’s model data. Being model data, on the smaller scale it can often be wrong.
E.g. The mode may forecast a front to move through at a particular time, say midday, but in reality the front moves through 1-2 hours later.
Another example. Models can often under or overdo convective storms. The model may break out thunderstorms over a large area whereas the reality is clear blue skies.
@@hodgeheg480 It’s half and half. Wind, temps and altimeter setting are pulled from METAR data, but clouds, visibility and precipitation come from forecast data. Often they will be similar but of course not always.
@@tjfSIM the metars are often way off, like dense broken clouds, heavy rain and 200m visibility when the actual metar reports visibility 10km+ and just a few clouds. Do you see the prolem?
@@frankbyte As I said, cloud and precipitation come from forecast data, not METARs. So they won’t always be accurate. If REX fixed that problem in a good way then I’m all for it, but from what I’ve read the transitions and weather changes are not handled well, and are causing performance issues. For me that’s too big a price to pay just to have the right cloud formations when you look out of the window.
I own it and like it, but it kills my frame-rates during weather changes. It does that severely enough that I no longer use it.
Yeah, very true. That transition thing kills frames like crazy. I used to know a special setting for REX that would cure that issue. I don't remember what it was though. Still searching.
Exactly. Frame rate killer
I remember the old version years ago that you had to turn off its menu system in order for it stop making your frame rates drop on FSX. Does it still get better if you turn it off with FS2020?
@@synthoelectro There is no “menu” per se for it in MSFS 2020, just a separate window. I don’t see any difference with the window minimized or expanded but the config does let you turn off some options that help to save frame rates. Those options make it less realistic, but they do help.
@@Part_121 things tied to the UI always make things slow, in any software. Been that way forever on windows and linux.
Thanks Froogle, looks good. Lol @ the 'Bob Ross Happy Clouds' theme.
am I the only one and you that get it?....
@@willemp6432 I just found a video on youtube with music "Bob Ross Remixed | Happy Little Clouds | PBS Digital Studios". (I won't bother linking to it because youtube links seem to be used as a form of spam now). It would be interesting to see how Bob Ross Happy Clouds is rendered as a dynamic weather theme though. btw, many of my flights in xplane seem to result in 'happy little accidents'.
@@weswheel4834 🤣🤣 You just made my day...Thanx.
You didn't mention the settings needed to cure the frame rate issue with REX during weather transitions.
Hi, you mind sharing those setting changes that need to be made. I'm running an I9 and GTX3080 and its unbearably terrible framerate hits.
I had Rex Weather Force but had too remove due to FPS issues
I got this recently but I can link with with my sim. I turn the live weather off and put the sim to clear sky
Thule is an Air Base in Greenland. FYI
Lately on Weather Injection I can get silent crash to Desktop Since the September 2022 MSFS Update.
Does this addon insert the different cloud types and layers in the chosen area?
Sitting on the ramp at KCLT yesterday no thunderstorms even though the current metar and NOAA radar showed thunderstorms at the airport. I then installed Rex Weather and the thunderstorms appeared. Rex weather is much more accurate than MSFS 2020 live weather. The only issue I have is the stuttering introduced by using this. I turned Off the aerosol setting and hopefully the stuttering will go away. Before installing and running Rex Weather MSFS 2020 was virtually smooth for me. Any ideas?
Can you set high clouds to actually look like real wispy cirrus clouds? Msfs default wx makes high clouds look like nothing more than higher, smaller cumulus.
is this still worth it given FS2020 Game of the year weather update?
Bought and downloaded yesterday. On balance, a better overall performance from the MS live weather and worth the money. What I did notice is a significant hit on the frame rates that brings back some stuttering when the weather kicks in. Not sure if my GTX980Ti is the issue or the Rex weather. More fiddling required I guess but I too will use ISO FS2020 weather every time.
Hi what settings do you have to make it looks so real please help!!! Thanks
Great review… I’m sold!
I definitely have to get this one!
I bought this about 6 months ago and use it all the time
Thanks Froogle.....That was a good one.....👍
Awesome Video Froogle. Did you Move back to The UK? Thought you were in Florida.
Love the program but it slowly takes my fps down.
I got it but it's not injecting any weather into the Sim
Thule AB ... Northern Greenland
I have this and it generates amazing accurate weather, the temps are off though. The temps remains the same so if its 30c on the ground the temp will be 30c and only update evey 5000ft.
Hey Froogle, that airport is pronounced Toole and is in Greenland. It's a military base.
would have loved to the in-sim comparison of real world weather w/ and w/o weather force
hey froogle! Hope you are well! thanks for the awesome content! One thing, god where is that GZo7? he is kinds dead from the meme world of things
Yeah, definitely a bug. The METAR clearly shows that winds are out of 330 at 4kt before you hit VIEW. As a matter of fact, all of the winds in all the METARs shown is less than 30KTs. Does "30kts >" mean here "30 knots is greater than what I want"? Because "x < 30kts" is the same as "30kts > x"
Nice One - Thank you
No dynamic real life weather and the persistent weather sounds like a try to make it look like dynamic weather.
Shame since SU5 it no longer plays well with inbuilt ATC!
First! Thanks a lot!! Great video
This was good when the weather would constantly break, but now they fixed that in update 5 and this is useless.
Everything default within MSFS sucks, thx Froogle
The significant drop in FPS makes it useless, unfortunately
It`s a real FLOP ... no man needs such a program ... standard Weather System is amazing & I was waiting for such a good weather machine for years. Save my money for other NEEDED things... dream along...
MSFS is very pretty. But it’s airplane Modelling is terrible.
lol how
Bought and installed it on 7/20/2022. Ran rexaxisdesktop.exe on PC. Got RexAxis opening screen, then blank screen that says only 'REX AXIS - Desktop Edition' at the top, then nothing more? PC has Windows 10. Anybody else having same experience?
Bought it yesterday and while it booted without issue on Win11, I checked out an airport under Fiona last night (US) to find it did not inject wind after many attempts. Appears this, like any software, has its bugs/drawbacks at a price.