Gen Z: The Toolbelt Generation?
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
- Stranger things have happened! With universities long gone as bastions of anti-male, woke, Studies studies majors racking up a quarter-million dollars of student debt for useless degrees, many young men are looking at technical and trade careers -- and are liking what they see.
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A good heating and air conditioning repairman is worth five hundred gender studied professors.
5000 ! 50,000 !!
I hope not. The value of a gender studies professor is negative.
@@jimnagel5611 Considering the fact that gender studies is completely worthless we're both giving too much credit to them. Lol.
@@j.r.warren5794 TRYING TO BE AS TOLERANT AS I CAN YA KNOW
@@jimnagel5611 With the left it's difficult to be kind sometimes.
What`s always amazed me, if an 18 yr old walked into a bank and ask for a $200,000 mortgage loan to buy a house, they would be laughed at. Let that 18 yr old walk in and ask for a $200,000 college education loan with no major specified because they haven`t decided yet, and sure here`s the money!?!
That’s part of why I advocate for abolishing student loans and likely do student loan forgiveness. The system is a scam. It’s the reason education has exploded in cost, and there are virtually no consumer protections or standards for student loans compared to any other form of unsecured loans. It’s a predatory system…plain and simple.
That is only possible because the government got into the loan business. Before the government got involved, Universities had to keep tuition such that most people could work their way through a degree. Once the government got involved it was basically writing a blank check for the universities because there were no reasonable limitations on how much of our money the government would be willing to spend.
@@TheJeep1967 nailed it... "Higher Education" has just been the wanton expansion of socialized usury by the "progressive" left from their ivory towers in Universities across the land.
I had a plumber fix a broken pipe in my office. It took an hour and cost $400. When I told him my doctor didn't charge that much, he replied, "Neither did I when I was a doctor."
hear hear
Yeah, I'd be leaving bad reviews for scam pricing.
When I was a doctor .....Ha Ha Ha He became a plumber to actually make a living.
DEI = "Didn't Earn It".
Definitely applies to the entire boomer generation on down.
So what can we say CRT stands for?
I had a sawzall in my grandson's hands at age 10. He loved it. Then, an AXE! I let him cut a few junk trees down. At 11, was splitting wood.
I had my son using a circular saw at 15. When he bought his 1st home, I showed him how to hang & finish drywall & he now does all of his own home remodeling, while being a salesman. That works.
I've Also been helping my daughter remodel/ improve on homes. She's getting the hang of it & loves it.
Great job Man!
Making bread and pastries has been in our family for 50 years. Heading into the 3rd generation. Seeing people enjoy what we have prepared for them is a reward in itself.
If by any chance you run Porto’s, would you please build one in the Inland Empire? I’m tired of driving 45 minutes to get my pastries.😂
I "do stuff" for a living...automotive for nearly 27 yrs...mechanic, paint,car stereo/security, 2 way comms...i i have rarely been unemployed for more than a week...when automotive finally burned me out I used my experience to get a job in an ammo plant...as a hobby or out of necessity i learned carpentry,plumbing,gun smithing,electrical and many more...life is never dull when you know how to "do stuff"
Especially for a side hustle on top of my full time gig...
It works. I did it. Master electrician. 32yo. Easiest way to make money in the world and it has been sense the dawn of man. Get good at something other people don't want to do. The better you understand it, the more people will be willing to invest in your skill.
Well said 💯👍👍
My oldest brother (RIP) was a Local 3 electrician in NYC, he would often have apprentices that were so bad that my brother volunteered to teach the apprentice class.
@@jeffb5785 sorry for your loss. Unfortunately that is the nature of unions. I did 2 years in local 429 (Nashville). It has turned into a bureaucracy and it's a shadow of it's former glory. All the education that I got that has served me the best I got from a few good journeymen. People who really knew what they were doing and taught me. From there I deep-dived into RUclips videos and articles to better understand electricity fundamentally. I learned all the things I felt like I was weak on and I did it on my own. I've had zero classroom hours but I can diagnose and repair any circuit you put in front of me faster than anyone else you put beside me.
I did electric engineering but work on components instead. Reason is I cant squeeze into tight spots to reach wires or outlets. I envy those like you that can. So I instead repair and design alternators, regulators, harnesses, pcbs, etc... It's honest work.
I wish the young men I knew would go into the trades. It's a no-brainer. Good for you!
I have worked for a remodeling company for years and I have always told people they should get their children into the trades and they have always looked at me like I was crazy and it seemed so common sense to me. I am glad it's finally catching on.
A lot of kids grew up playing Minecraft, which is built around gathering, crafting, and building. I wouldn't be surprised if that has an influence.
Maybe. All my Gen Z nephews played Minecraft for years and most are doing C++ software engineering and only one is going into construction trade.
our gen not theirs
Since I was a little kid in the 1970s, I wanted to know how things worked and why. What was the process behind everything? Thats what did it for me. I am big into cars and other machines, have been a machinist, mechanic, did logistics in the USAF, construction, and a lot more.
I meet kids all the time who want to know, they want the cool old car and they want to build it like I do. At car shows I let them sit in my 65 GTO or 70 Cuda, and you can see how much they enjoy it. Boys want to know these things.
Not only do I build cars, I built my house, the shop where I build cars, and the PC I am using to write this. I am not taking cars around to shops and saying I built it, I did not hire a contractor to come out and do the work for me.. I BUILT IT with my hands... and I like to teach others how to do the same thing.
Boys are geared toward doing the things I do, from computer games to racing cars and flying airplanes. All they need is a mentor to get them started doing it themselves.
20 years ago I showed a 19 year old guy in my car club how to rebuild a transmission for my 70 GTO. He saw how simple it was and I said, go to school to learn how and all the small stuff you won't pick up by watching me, and you will do well. He owns six transmission repair shops now, all because I encouraged him and gave him that little bit of information that he wanted to know. He is closing in on being a millionaire and he isn't even 40 yet.
@@g.r.odenbach6541Something tells me they really got into designing and programming things with red stone when they played.
My son believes that he shouldn’t have to work again since he spent all those years building things in Minecraft. He does nothing every day while waiting for his first social security check to arrive at the ripe old age of 21.
Good work ethic is helpful too. I youngest son graduated welding school in December and is now working in a fabrication plant. His perfect attendance and hard work was noticed by every employer that came to the school.
I'm one of those "knuckle-draggers" and have been most of my life. I've built several houses and have done a lot of remodeling work and for twenty years I built movie and tv sets, so when I want to see some of my work, I can watch one of the 70 projects I worked on on the tv!
Any chance that I’d recognize some of your handiwork?
@@colincopland3665 Pirates of the Caribbean, Species, Men in Black - too many to list
@@questfortruth665 Mmmm, Species, me and a bunch of buddies saw that one in the theater. I'll gladly give Natasha 3 thumbs up.
Yay for them! Glad to hear it.
I have a degree in Art and also studied theater and I have spent almost 40 years in the building maintenance trades. My education always got me good assignments and I've spent half my time in art museums and concert halls. Good to see young guys coming into the trades!
Right now, I'm driving a truck. It pays double what my job at an aerospace company as head of marketing did.
I had a few drinks at a college bar in Iowa about 15 years ago when I was 45. I'm a blue-collar guy, but I did spend some time in college when I was young. I overheard a couple of haughty talking young men who thought they had the world by the balls. I listened and discovered that their majors were not good majors for gainful employment. I started talking to them, let them know that I was a working-class man. They sort of got a bit like they were several levels above me and attempted to brow beat me. So, I asked them what kind of employment they expected to obtain after they graduated with their majors. They told me that they were going to get their master's degrees and then their doctorates and become professors. So, I asked them: When you go to a class where it's a professor giving the lecture, how many other students are also attending this lecture? They said that it was about a hundred other students. I said, so there is one professor lecturing to a hundred students, now what makes you so sure that you are going to get a job just like that professor has. They didn't have an answer. They quickly finished their drinks and left.
This is great news. We need to get our children and our treasure out of the public and state indoctrination centers. I hope these young people have tons of success and make America great again. Love from Texas ❤
I work with one of the best automobile body shops in a major metro area in the Southeast (where, drawing on my background in mechanical engineering, I do custom design work and fabrication). The owners / management have been trying since 2016 to hire entry-level young people to train to do the kind of high-quality work they made their reputation on. Nobody. Zero, zip, nada one. The restoration / hot-rod shop I also work with, exactly the same deal. We can't even get anyone under 40 to sweep the floors and clean parts right. Twinkie-dinks come in, think it's all going to be like some stupid reality show, find out it's demanding WORK that takes a helluva lot of skill to do RIGHT, then spend the days hiding, playing on their phones until we send 'em home to mommy. A COMPETENT autobody tech or mechanic can make well into six figures, but NOBODY WILL PUT IN THE EFFORT TO ACHIEVE COMPETENCE...and THAT is reality. EDIT: AND...the schools are doing such an abysmal job turning out HS grads who have reasonable READING-COMPREHENSION skills and an understanding of BASIC ARITHMETIC, both absolutely necessary to achieve competence in ANY PHYSICAL "doing stuff" SKILL, the situation looks pretty hopeless from my perspective. Try to get a kid to look up procedure or specs in the online or printed manuals we supply, and all they'll do is try to find a RUclips video about it, and then argue about doing everything WRONG because they think they've become instant experts. EDIT 2: Make "must be able to read and understand written instructions, and must be able to work with fractions and percentages" hiring criteria, and your potential candidate pool drops to nothing.
This is good news because as a boomer myself I know of a lot of young people that never worked with tools, built anything or fixed anything.
In the 80’s I wanted to be an electrician; there was a 7 year wait. Today, you’ll enter immediately with a sign on bonus. Missed the boat on that…
Great news... Relief is needed! Trucker age was getting ridiculous!
My son and daughter-in-law laid all their own flooring and backsplash kitchen tile, they did a great job. He helped his Dad split wood when he was a teenager. He can shoot a deer and butcher it. My husband grew up on a farm and he and his Dad taught our son how to butcher and wrap pork, beef, chicken etc. He loved taxidermy, went to school for it and beside his regular job, does beautiful taxidermy for many people. My son-in-law, on the other hand, is very book smart and intelligent (not saying my son isn’t) but if we ever have to live off the grid, I want to be with our son.
Good for Gen Z! Us Millennials were raised on the mantra of "go to college and study what you love and the money will follow". Well, the money did NOT follow for most of us, and most of my cohorts eventually ended up settling into normal careers eventually. The smarter among us course-corrected while still in college, while others took a bit longer. In my middle-class high school the trades were not even considered as an option, we were all "too smart" for blue collar work. (Early 2000s) Well the joke is on us now lol.
I'm an ironworker. I felt the same as your son did in school back in the 90's I love it. I build the rides at Disney and universal and you literally get to see what you've done at the end of the day. It's awesome.
More and more jobs will be outsourced to India. Also, AI will do a number to White collar jobs. It will be a while before robots take over blue collar jobs that require thinking. The cab driver will be replaced by robot. The car mechanic will not. I hope more young people go the blue collar route. And I hope the Republican Party becomes the blue collar party.
I spent 20 years in the Navy doing a job for which I would have had to have had a Masters degree in the civilian world--weather forecasting. I have worked side by side with National Weather Service forecasters, and they tell me that unless a person was planning on going into research, the degree is totally useless, that a trade school approach would be sufficient.
But, when do we reach the point when we can't afford those who "do"?
We Google it, and do it ourselves.
Yay!
-- Texas
Yay! Finally spelled correctly -- D I E. Go Steve go!
Always pointed students to the trades. Good money and satisfaction in a job well done.
The Blue collar (and no collar) worker's made this Country, the White collars just took the credit.
Remember Obama " you didn't build that"? At the time I was a Heavy equipment operator. I said back to the TV " I did Build that"!.😮
It's great that kids are going to trade schools. What people don't realize is that trade school is the ground floor in learning the trade. You'll learn ninety percent more when you get into the trade. That'll take another ten years for most trades. You'll become a master in the trade when you realize how much you don't know. Another problem is that a lot of the great masters have already retired or are dead. I've been saying for years that people going in the trades have to be smarter than the people going to college because of the technology needed to be in the trades.
Thank goodness their old videos from the 50s-80s are still around for people to learn from.
I took a course with a range of students between physicians, PhDs, plumbers and tug boat drivers and was very impressed with the intelligence and work challenges of the trades people!
Gen z doesn't even know what a tool belt is.
Another other plus is that if, as was noted, you spend 4 years becoming a plumber or an electrician, you're working while you're learning, building your bank account rather than building your debt; this makes it possible to change your mind if you don't like it, and head into another career without the weight of outrageous debt.
I could never understand why people required a college degree when you were capable of performing the tasks, especially when you demonstrated that you were potentially capable of handling other tasks that might allow the opportunity for promotion!
“College is the place you go to make sure no one opens your mind.” The same thing can be said of the church that Scott and Bill are so fond of.😂
My oldest son went into HVAC; he was a crane mechanic, which, let's be honest, is a very high-paying job. Why? He wanted to be home because if you live along the Gulf Coast, you will almost live offshore as a crane mechanic. He went through a trade school for 9 months, got a job with a small HVAC company for 1 year, and left to go to another company that does commercial HVAC work. He now makes $35 per hour. My youngest son dropped out of engineering school to go to trade school to be a machinist. He can program CAD/CAM machines and systems and makes $40 per hour. On average, both come home every night and work about 60 hours per week, with every other weekend off. It's a sweet gig. They are both in their 30s.😎
Mike Rowe will be proud!!
My son's are gen-Z I'm pushing them to not go to college and learn a trade!
Totally Off Topic. Bill I LOVE you series Empire Of Terror. I eagerly wait for the next installment.
Love the quote "Lenin wrote thee manual, Stalin just followed it." Hope you read this 4 Thumbs Up!
Yeah, Lenin was the true, evil genius. Stalin & everyone else are just mindless, opportunistic followers.
Fixing a broken leg on a chair, or the door handle on a microwave instead of just throwing it out. really does make you feel good about yourself
Studied engineering for this reason. Never regretted.
Steven Green; Bill, Scott and I are a subset of the Boomer generation called Generation Jones. We have nothing in common to the hippy, Vietnam war protesting, feminist movement and counterculture that the Boomers who are currently in their mid 70s and 80s are known for. We grew up in the late 70s and early 80s which was a completely different era.
A lot of professional women complain they cant meet a suitable man and look at mechanics and craftsmen as beneath them or settling. Well ladies be prepared to hear "I spent 4 years bustin it in an apprenticeship program so I didnt have a 5 or 6 figure student loan debt, ain't going to marry into one!"
Just replacing the carburetor on my Stihl blower and having it work again is satisfying.
sucks starting off as a apprentice for 5 years
it's the smartest thing to do, go to trade school or get a apprenticeship. You will be happier and avoid the college brainwashing.
Not even people do not see anything tangible as a result of their hard work, but they do not even see any actual money. Our salary is transferred directly to a bank, from where it automatically goes into multiple recurring payments. Very rarely we go to the bank to pull some cash (when we are going for a trip, mostly). We are working and working and there are no visible results and no clear remuneration.
The value of a skill was instilled into me by my maternal grandfather who was a cabinet maker/finish carpenter. He told me how he earned a living during the depression because he had a skill that the people who were still affluent wanted.
As long as you can "supply" what is needed by others, you will always be in demand!
If true, will it not result in an entire generation of entitled, self involved tech and trade workers with absolutely zero work ethic?
In the last year of my doctorate, I stumbled onto the art of machining. (I was heavy into gun rights at the time, heard that guns were easy to make, and discovered a website named CNC Guns.) When I had my doctorate (and lots of debt), I was exploring other options, and I took an Introduction to Machining class. Oh, how fun it was! Oh, how I wish I had the money and time to take the Machining Certification, the Carpentry Certification, and the Blacksmith/Welding Certification! (Each program would have taken three months.)
I came away from the class, and the overall experience, thinking that *everyone* going into college should take a year learning a trade or two or three -- and maybe even use that trade to pay for college -- and if the person is "derailed" into a different career path, then so what?
I am also convinced that engineers in particular would do well to learn machining themselves -- so they don't make impossible-to-machine parts, among other things! (Indeed, occasionally engineers were referred to as "The Enemy" in that intro class.)
This is encouraging.
I grew up in a steel fab shop. I know how to do a lot of things. I have never had any problem finding work. Tradesmen are always in demand.
Men fix things and make them work. They thrive on it and get paid to-boot. What's not to like. That's WNTL for gen whatever.
I got a Master's degree and got a job at a fortune 100 company. I started at $75k/year and people in the same position as me with only a Bachelor's started at $60k/year. But they were also younger, and they probably caught up within the first couple years
Very few academic positions are available. Not many want to exist in mind and Soul numbing cubicle cages. Making something with your hands is very satisfying. My Dad was a Machinist and he keep a roof over our heads, food on the table, clothes on our backs and even managed to have a vacation nearly every year. Granted this was back in the Seventies, but you can still make a good life in the vocation trades.
DEI, always remembers none of them making the rules today would be in the positions they are in today if it was not for white men. We lower the effort and skills required to achieve success trying to make things better.
A trend I fit into. I'm a gay, conservative, gen Z equipment repair technician.
I have plaque psoriasis on my hands and can't open a water bottle without extreme pain
The thing you have to remember with the trades is that there's an expiration date on being able to do it. It's hard on your body and eventually you will reach a point where it's not possible to do it anymore. As long as you understand that and plan ahead for it, it's a great way to make a living.
I finally figured out Steve Greene's role on this channel. His former disc jockey career lends itself well to it. He is there to fill airtime with his rambling. Getting to the point and being succinct is NOT his forte.
That's only when he's not playing Devil's advocate.
@@surlyogre1476 I thought it was Scott who plays Devil's advocate.
By 1980, the trades were full up with all the men thrown out of the factories as they were moved offshore. So college was the more enticing path for late Boomers and Gen X, even Millennials. But now those men of the 1970s are in their 70s or thereabouts.
Mind and Hand was a movement in late 19th century to teach useful skills (hand) along with the academic (mind). MIT came out of that tradition, but seem to have lost the plot.
"In the light of this analysis Carlyle's rhapsody on tools becomes a prosaic fact, and his conclusion-that man without tools is nothing, with tools all-points the way to the discovery of the philosopher's stone in education. For if man without tools is nothing, to be unable to use tools is to be destitute of power; and if with tools he is all, to be able to use tools is to be all-powerful. And this power in the concrete, the power to do some useful thing for man-this is the last analysis of educational truth."
-Charles H. Ham, Mind and Hand: manual training, the chief factor in education (1900) (1886)
Funny thing I've noticed, in watching (far too many) videos of college kids in their native environment. They like to mock those who didn't go to/finish college, but the people they are mocking can recognize the difference between hurling insults at someone, and presenting a counterpoint to their argument. Distressingly few "college kids" will do the latter, if they even can.
I got a degree, finished up working for myself, doing mostly manual stuff for others... paid better than any regular job even taking into account time and expenses of running a business, meh
Mike Rowe for president!
People haven't changed, their beliefs may have become stupid, but the inherent value that people find in their lives hasn't. There is nothing surprising about this kind of news. People will never stop finding fulfillment in looking behind them at something they've done and knowing they did that and it will last.
I disagree with Scott calling DEE-EE-AI by the proper acronym DEE-AI-EE. The current state of the schools prevents those promoting DEI to notice the misspelling.
Seeds for the 4th turning are being planted.
Not exactly sure when college peaked. But it has. While it will always be around, online is making knowledge available at a fraction of the cost. Looking forward to see what Jordan Peterson is doing with online education. I can imagine a world where the lectures and study materials are online and one pays for proctored testing more rigorous than at most colleges these days so certification actually means something again because of no grade inflation. Certifications could be ranked by rigor.
People Learning how to do a Risk/Reward Calculation. That alone has value.
These are the Minecraft and Fortnite players that realized they can make a living building real stuff in the real world.
Bill Blink!
If you have trade skills you will be able to build a better box to live in.
If you suck at school, just work in a state or federal prison like I did for 25 yrs. I retired at 50 y/o with a 6 figure pension w/COLA & med/den ins for life. My pension would've cost me $2.7 million had I worked in the private sector & bought an equivalent annuity. I'm on path to earn 6 million dollars in my lifetime, more than most post graduates. My pension pays midway btw an Army Lt Col & Col. Not bad for a guy who barely graduated HS & flunked out of college.
If I had to work in a prison, I’d prefer federal. Seems like a higher class of criminal.
Impressive stash
Trade schools..are the best..
I'm hoping this means that our current hard times *are* making hard men. It may be just in time to salvage our nation.
College debt? The government got you covered. 😛
It's not a total surprise to me, some of the young men I have been running into. Don't like the crap that is going on or the mountains of debt they are expected to take on going to College. They are graduating from HS soon. What I find interesting is that these young men are already redpilled. Being old has been, as made me a bit optimistic about the younger generation that is entering the workplace. One of them is looking into saturation diving as a career path. The kid is in the gym every day after school doing serious workouts. So you are going to the Navy? I asked, and he just smiled; no doubt in my mind, the Navy is going to take him and teach him that skill.
Question: What are you going to do with a degree in philosophy?
Answer: "Think deep thoughts about being unemployed."
Bruce Lee
Scott, you can't undo then tighten 4 bolts on a shock? I am pretty sure you are capable if you set your mind to it.
If AI can put you out of work you were obviously not necessary to society.
Education for the sake of Education is not a bad thing, but 'degrees' like Fine Arts & Theatre is fluff for the sake of knowledge, not a career choice.
Santaclause😮 must be divorced
Women likes college.
They get lots of attention and emotionel support.
They party like its 1994 and dismiss all men " below " them.
They will be presented for a rude awakening.
Patrying on tax dollars, not ok!!
Get off the drugs, Andrew Tate's teeny weeny & go to school because your logic & spelling is atrocious.
Are you kidding?
Gen X to Gen Z. What happened to Gen Y?
Gen "Y" are the millennials.
Gen Y is too woke to be concerned with the practical, can-do, roll up your sleeves working ethic of the 'little people.'
We dont talk about that here ...
🗽USA❤🤍💙
Your full of it...text schools
Have been the better choice. As back to the early 70s
Whittle appears to be on an acid trip. What's with the eyes?
Not only will kids who go into trades have minimal school debt, a job that can't be overtaken by AI, but they can also save money because they don't need to pay someone else to do things for them. I don't pay anyone to repair my vehicles, I do it. I built my house, hired two guys to help put the roof on, it was a lot cheaper investing my time in it. Same with my shop, I built that too. That includes the plumbing and wiring. It was ME and yeah its all to code. Additionally, I build my PCs like the one I an using to write this.
That $1200 brake job you have to pay for, costs me less than $200 for the parts. That $10k engine rebuild you would have to pay for, costs me $3,000 and I get a lot better engine from building it myself than you can by buying it and having it installed. I can repaint my car for less than $1000 and it will look great, thats what the materials cost me.
People call and ask me how to do things, and to get information needed to do things, its rare I call someone to find out how to do it. If I do call someone, its because its a specific vehicle I have not worked on before, or a certain part of it I haven't done yet.
Yeah I went to a VoTech school back in 1993 after my first enlistment in the USAF ( where I loaded cargo planes). I tested out of almost everything too. I had been working on my cars for ten years at that point and I built an old 79 Firebird that ran 11.40s in the quarter for less than $4000, with a Pontiac 455 in it that I rebuilt for $2700, half of which was getting the heads CNC ported. They saw how well it ran and signed me off on engines, tuning, etc. Just had to pay for the credits.
Only thing I learned in class was transmission rebuilding and running alignment racks. I thought I needed the paper to get paid more.. It made zero difference in how much I got paid working in shops. I got one student loan, for $2000, and I worked full time as a CNC programmer/machinist while going to school for 12 credit hours so I could get the GI Bill I had paid for.
From what I have seen, yeah we blue collar types are usually smarter than the university degree types. I made engineers look silly all the time when I was doing the machinist thing.
Insurance companies rule the world. Why do you think all these businesses require college degrees? Because they get a lower cost for their business insurance - right?