GAME SINS | Everything Wrong With Stranger of Paradise: Final Fantasy Origin
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If you watched the first trailer for Stranger of Paradise: Final Fantasy Origin you already had as much fun as you can possibly have with it, because the game's entertainment value peaked with everyone memeing on Chaos.
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"Summarize the game's plot in one sentence" Simple: People, Jack in particular, want to kill Chaos.
Nomura does a Kingdom Hearts story in a Final Fantasy world for once.
Find Chaos > Kill Chaos > Become Chaos.
I think we can omit a few words there, let's see..... we get rid of "Jack", "particular" and "in".
We can also get rid of "want", "people" and "to"
Oh, and "kill" can go to
Yep, that's it, that's the game, just.... chaos
He said “in under one sentence” which confuses me
Wake up, eat, chaos, repeat.
Man. SOOOOO many people thought the Bullshit scene was an edit. It was always funny seeing their reactions to it.
That was one of the most memable moments in gaming history. Thats up there with "Wipe this meme from the face of the earth"
I got bored of the dialog and came to the comment section to read your comment.
As soon as i read yours and wondered when id be hearing this part...i heard it.🤣
Jack interrupting monologues is hilarious
And there's the one sentence summary for the game!
>Blasts Linkin Park
>Refuses to elaborate further
@@mariokarter13 its not linkin park
@@mrsgamer9218 it’s limp bizkit
@@Hexados-666 its not limp bizkit either. Its confirmed a japanese band. Look it up.
"After playing most of From Software's Dark Souls games, I've grown accustomed to the plot being none of my damn business." 🤣🤣🤣🤣 this right here needs to be on a shirt or something
idk I understand the stories of all the Souls games after watching Vadividia. its not that hard to understand once its all summed up.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 right thats the point, vidya does all the heavy lifting for you
@@inebriationconversation4526 Not my fault. I dont have a playstation, and even if I did I dont hate reading. Regardles, Souls game lore never leaves me feeling bored.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 You forgot to mention the big gaping hole that is the majority of the plot being pure speculation. Vaati has a great perspective on it, but he's mostly just making up stories based on the tidbits we're given in the games, nothing he's ever said is set in stone, and he's had the games contradict him as DLC and new entries come out -- remember the old "Harvest Valley is the remains of Anor Londo" theory he tossed out early on?
Don't get me wrong, the whole reason we get so little actual confirmed fact is specifically to facilitate this sort of thing, and it's great, but... you can't summarize it all when there isn't even enough hard information to summarize. The best you can do is theorize about what actually happened based on these little snippets. In other words, the plot is "none of our damn business," we just decided to force the issue and come up with stuff to fill in the (massive) gaps.
Yeah, without there being really a plot to make them different, it's almost surprising how Dark Souls fans are willing to just keep buying the exact same game over and over again. Then again, Call of Duty fans exist and have made that normla long ago, now i't's just the same thing but with a different series name.
Jack better be in kh4. He can teach Sora a thing or 2, like "F*** you darkness"
Yozora can just be the Jack really. Although it’s probably going to be used for self aware jokes where Yoroza says something logical, and Sora and co are like “Hey man lighten up have some fun” in many instances
He can just be a random NPC in Quadratum and that would be enough for me.
@@chrisdaughen5257 random NPC? Try Summon!
I see him in KH3: "Xehanort: Explains plan" Jack: Bullsh** Xehanort: Explodes
i agree. then we finally have a kinda good written character in that franchise *hides*
The spaceship thing and robots isn't a sin. In the original Final Fantasy on the NES, flying fortress was an actual space station and you did have robots as enemies there, but in the subsequent remasters of FF1, they changed flying fortress to be just that, a medieval fortress that hovered in the sky with waterfalls, even though that wasn't the original design.
BRILLIANT
Thank you for posting it. Took the words right out of my mouth.
The original NES and PS1/GBA remakes the flying fortress was futuristic, robots, the whole 9. I also was shocked at the sin, considering the original game.
That being said......I am 43, and that original game came to the US when I was 13. Sooooo 30 odd years ago.
I am certain this guy is not that old.
@@bahamutskingdom Almost 42 here
It was my first game after SMB3 bundled in the console
XD
FF8 had spaceflight too.
@@russellvitranoiii3504 FF VIII was set in a futuristic setting though.
Jack wants to kill Chaos so bad you mine as well call him the God-Emperor of Mankind.
If he meets a guy named horus, he should run.
The opening line, the one about Susie and her apples, that one, my man, was absolute genius and I laughed my whole ass off, lol
For me, it was the line about how he grew accustomed to the plot being "none of his damn business." I crack up every time I hear that. Hell, I'm cracking up now as I type this comment!
“Turned evil from the lack of vitamin C in his diet” is killing me XD.
12:20 - fun fact: your crazy theory for the NPC Dialogue is actually correct! That wanted it to feel as bland and sometimes bizarre as the old 8 or 16-BIT titles. I loved how Biggs and Wedge just repeat the same generic line in every chapter you can speak to people in Cordelia too, despite them showing up as new lines.
I really wish this came with a bonus round adding a sin for the number of times the word Chaos is said in the game, but that feels like it would be longer than the video itself.
I never thought I’d see the day Dartigan became a video game journalist with how much he had to compare this game to Dark Souls.
If he also tells us how swinging off ropes makes you feel like spiderman, he'll get a job at IGN.
Guys, call me crazy but I think the main goal of this game is to kill Chaos. Because Jack can't stop expressing himself with how much he wants to kill Chaos.
Having played the game i can confirm, Jack changes his mind.
*Limp Bizkit intensifies*
He wants to kill Chaos so much, That he becomes chaos himself to make it happen.
@@zachw2538 Not really. Even once he becomes Chaos, it's specifically so someone can come and kill Chaos/him
I like that you've been using the first sins in these videos to basically deliver a review of the game before going ahead with the rigmarole; the format would get kinda stale without your actual perspectives accompanying it
…well I came in to post about how I’m getting sick of him doing that, but the first comments informs me that I’m probably in the minority
…god dammit….
Agreed. It's a good have your cake and eat it too format that I grew to love.
While providing basic concepts and character designs, Nomura actually didn't write the story in this one, nor was he director. Kazushige Nojima did, and he's also responsible for the changes in FFVII Remake.
Really, interesting.
Says it all
People forget that Nomura first of all character designer and then he goes crazy with story in KH...
And overall it is not that convoluted and more of it being very BIG and COMPLEX right now... But it only happened because if KH was an Anime it would be 10th season and Episode 400. This is a problem common among long running series - try to get a newcomer into One Piece - newcomer will have fun but generally will also end up confused if he starts from One Piece's equivavelent of where KH3 placed on a Timeline in its own series - Marinford ARC and Ace's execution.
KH is a 20 years running "show" with ONE story - and state of its story simply shows the weight of going for so long.
well the ff7 changes were awesome so don't see your point
@@vincenthammons6705 Not everyone's exactly on board with the story changes in the remake. I just wanted to clarify that Nomura wasn't the one who made such changes. He actually wanted the game to be more faithful to the original, while Kitase and Nojima wanted to deviate even further from the original game.
I think it's less Square being suicidal and more Square being really stubborn in insisting they can do no wrong. Just look at how they treated Eidos during the entirety of their ownership versus their own track record with releases like the original version of Final Fantasy XIV, Final Fantasy XV (which was originally slated to be Versus XIII), and all the FF XIII related titles.
If they didn’t own Eidos, ppl probably not have a problem much with that though
The problem is Square's fanbase.
@@Virus_io. Exactly
And XII.
The reason Jack doesn’t remember his last name and Sarah does is because of the crystals. He gave her his in a previous loop, which contained his memories and gave her some protection from the world reset the next time Jack showed up in Cornelia.
Sure, but that's a weirdly specific thing to forget and have her remember.
Simply because of the Crystals. Did we ever see the origin Crystals from FF1?
I don’t think we see that yet and this game is connected to Dissidia so there is that.
Convoluted and stupid
Me playing game: "this is fun"
Me after wathching this video: "I MISSED ALL THAT?!"
"Angry post-nut clarity" is a state of life I aspire to live in.
"Chaos was the demifriends we made along OUR WAY" and this game is the phantom pain that explains ff1 powerpoint explain in the ending of timeloop that got garland rebooted and not angry and evil
the face animations, expressions, and that drop in framerate... my god this is pure chaos!
1 sentence " angry man with alzhiemers suffers PTSD so strong it breaks continuity across multiple timeliness"
15:15 To be fair, Final Fantasy 1 did have War Mech, the high level rare random encounter near the end of the game. This game looks to overdo it with the references to that one-off enemy type.
In FF1 on the NES, flying fortress was an actual space station. In the remasters, they changed it to a medieval fortress in the sky.
There's actually quite a few robots in FF1. There's a couple you just talk to, and the Sentry along with the pallette swap of the Sentry that are also robots.
@@TheCyclicGamer that you can blame on the FF1 box art. If they didn't want it getting portrayed as a castle in the sky, they shouldn't have portrayed it as a castle in the sky themselves.
Im surprised there wasnt a bonus round: chaos counter. There would have been more sins on every time the word chaos was said than there was total in all the sins on this game.
This is not FF Origins this how the darkness from Kingdom Hearts was born and this is a prelude before KH4.
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XD
It's so weird seeing a game as phoned in as this one while Triangle Strategy was also released by SE and is a solid game.
Oh Triangle Strategy is a great game and it’s really the only new release that hasn’t been crushed by Elden Ring, mainly because it’s in a niche genre and it plays to it’s audience, it’s sold over 1 million copies so far. But even though it’s sold fairly well Square Enix will probably consider it a financial disappointment. Hell, Shadow of the Tomb Raider sold 10 million copies and they consider it a financial disappointment, they only made the game’s budget back 2.5 times
@@thedeepfriar745 of course they considere it a failure. There's no NFTs in it.
It gets even more crazy when you realize that the Tomb Raider franchise is valued at $2.3 Billion and Square Enix sold it for $300 Million. I’m beginning to think that the company is actually run by mentally retarded hamsters.
@@thedeepfriar745 square enix now is like most government, they need to squeeze the most amount of money with irrational number in their head and everything else outside their fancy garden of astronomical number is just a disappointment
To be honest the stupidity of the plot and Jack's character makes it endearing, like an high budget b movie
The way Jack dismiss everyone who are about to talk is the embodiment of players mashing skip button to get to the action.
Numetal Trivia: in your subtitles, you spelled Linkin Park as 'Lincoln Park'. That was the name the band originally wanted but couldn't use because of copyright.
Heh, neat little fun fact
Lincoln Park is a swimming hole in Michigan. It was a quarry back in the day that got flooded, leaving the quarry as a very deep, somewhat secluded swimming area with some old school and dilapidated brick structures around the surrounding woods.
I know chocobos aren't in Final Fantasy 1, but I sort of wish there was a nu-metal chocobo theme to go with 13-2's death metal one.
Thanks for reminding me of that banger, haven't heard it for way too long! :D
This has already been said enough, but main writter was definitely not Nomura for this one (though he is listed as producer). If you wanna dwelve into crazy plot territory, then you're looking at no other than Kazushige Nojima, who was also infamous for writting the FF X-2.5 ~Eien no Daishō. AKA: Titus dies
from a Blitzball looking Bomb, get's a "Golden Experience" revive, and Yuna in a crisis whether this Titus is her Titus (hence the whole vague "boyfriend" stuff that was in the extended scenario game for X-2 in the HD release).
Point being...Nojima has a knack for making convoluted shit in half the stories he's helped written & made scripts for lately (VII Remake being a notorious example ala Fate Ghosts), so this is just another example. Not to mention, awhile back, Nojima got harassed by fans for how he handled VII Remake's story, so let that sink in.
Nevertheless fun as hell video as always
I’m pretty much the only guy who knows that Nojima wrote the Kingdom Hearts series and not Nomura, but I’m not gonna complain to you and tell you that it’s Nojima’s fault Kingdom Hearts 3 was a failure… *ahem* moving on.
Even though I do think you’re right on this one, a part of me feels like something’s off. Like I don’t know, Nojima’s writing were convoluted than this game’s cringy writing.
Sophia speaks and I’m confused because Thunder Catherine from Fire Emblem: Three Houses is speaking to me, seriously Laura Post is in everything. Also is Astos wearing the Black Panther neclace? Secret Wakandan confirmed.
Actually the song that princess Shara was hearing on jack I-Pod is most likely the FF1 tune
Yeah, you hear jack humming the theme and jed asks Jack when he taught the princess that song. He then says it's a classic and everyone knows it lol. One of my favorite scenes
I feel there’s gonna be story DLC (like Nioh ) or a sequel to explain the more vague elements. The Lufenians keep talking about a collaborator in their reports, but who this is never revealed, even though they were the one who convinced them to flood Cornelia with darkness once the crystals were restored. I'd like to think Square will show what Jack wanted the warriors of light to do against the Lufenians too and give us a view of their society and overarching plan.
It's really hard imagining Lufenian society when the Strangers look and act so different compared to the people giving them orders. You don't hide that from players unless you're planning a follow up.
One sentence plot summary: The most JRPG story in any non Kingdom hearts game, EVER. Also I vote for guardians of the galaxy.
In 9:55 when the king started the line about chosen heros it started to sound like the script for a new super sentai got mixed in there.
nomura just did the character design, the plot was done by the advent children team, good stuff tho
I am only half convinced the creation of this game is a byproduct of an HR therapy experiment, and I refuse to contemplate what the other half being not convinced is possibly aware of.
Jack would get along real well with Chris Redfield from RE5 and 6
I'd love for Gamesins to tackle "American McGee's Alice" and Alice: Madness Returns". Those are interesting games, but I imagine it would be really funny to rake them over the coals.
I really want a remake of those games with modern graphics, it just sucks that, from what I understand, EA has a strangle hold on the IP and has no interest in doing anything with it.
You keep blaming Tetsuya Nomura for all the writing, but this game was actually written by Kazushige Nojima - writer of FF7 Remake - and Tomoco Kanemaki, who as far as I can tell has only written novels and manga for the Kingdom Hearts series. Nomura is credited as an Artist and Producer, but not a writier.
Exactly, if anyone's a hack writer, it's Nojima. 7Remake was trash in terms of story.
People gonna blame Nomura for everything, no wonder the dudes so shy in interviews the dude never wanted to be in the spot light
Tbf, about SE's recent failures. Guardians of the Galaxy was really good
Passable, yes. ''really good'', certainly not
@@ergheiz1245 nah man, it was really good. Definitely underrated. And I hate using that word.
SE fans don't know what's good.
The plot is basically "Nobody watched The Eternals, right?"
Damn, 2 and a half minutes on the first sin. Might this be the longest one we've had so far?
“We can’t let a woman decide her own fate, can we?”
What’s with the sarcasm?
You know *damn well* that video games and cinema these past 8 years have been chock-full of girlbosses and ‘strong-independent-women who-don’t-need no-man.’
Do you have a problem with a Princess who was originally made to be a damsel-in-distress, suddenly getting winded in one punch by a big muscle man?
Don’t tell me you live by a *double-standard,* now.
he also has the powerstone or whatever that increases his strenght
Yes but when was the last time Final Fantasy had a decent female character let alone a lead. 13 maybe or 10-2 ?
@@clothar23 I mean doesn't 14 let you play as either gender?
2:55 those black things in their hands looks like the suppository Anti-Pressure Pills created by Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth from Futurama season 2 episode 12 XD
Summarize in one sentence? I can do both this game and the original:
"the main villian in the first FF game became evil so he could be beaten and restore hope, not knowing that the way he did so made it so that the heroes that beat him erase their own heroics from history"
The opening being a rant almost 3 minutes long and a jab at Nomura's needlessly convoluted storytelling process floored me.
Not even written by Nomura. This dude didn't even do his research and rushed to make a video hating on Jack, embarrassing.
@@bobkys7916 Especially since it makes Dart look like an absolute mouth breather, missing a very simple story because 'nomura bad'
Besides the graphics and price, (okay and a whole lot of jank!) I think “SOP” is a blast! Most fun I’ve had with one of Square Enix’s action-RPG/turn-based RPG hybrid combat systems! The story actually gets pretty good about halfway through and great by the end. Probably my favorite Souls-like title outside of the actual FromSoftware’s “Soul’s” series.
Same. It takes a bit of work to piece together, but once you do, the plot actually comes together rather nicely towards the end.
For those who got the ps4 version, make sure you restart your console before booting up the game and turning HDR off. If you don't, it'll be almost unplayable.
Even after all this time, are we REALLY still just going to ignore the fact that in the cutscene where Sophia is first introduced, the subtitles CLEARLY read "Mysterious *Girl*", when she's OBVIOUSLY a SENIOR CITIZEN?
This game is so amazing. Easily my game of the year for 2022, which isn't saying much considering it's been such a dull and dry year for gaming, but still a really good game
Why no "Kill Chaos" counter?
Every sin for the word Chaos
0:46 yep perfect description I didn't know this game exist, & have my mind only on Elden Ring lately.
They should have just created a Chaos Legion remake. House of Ashes is my vote.
It could even be Astral Chain 2!
You cannot say "I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHO YOU ARE" when you literally ask everything that breathes if they are chaos. That should be a sin
Pour up (chaos), head shot (chaos)
Sit down (chaos), stand up (chaos)
Pass out (chaos), wake up (chaos)
Faded (chaos), faded (chaos)
Jack is so fucking based, I love him
Please do Guardians of the Galaxy. I would like what types of sins you find in that game. Plus I feel that you will have a really good time playing. Love you Dartigan, keep up the good work man!
26:06 I’m going to have to call you out on this one, as well as the very next sin. The song she’s listening to isn’t the nuMetal Linkin Park clone, and it’s certainly not what she plays on her lute. You missed out on a lot of context clues there, because note what she’s playing on her lute when Jack and the others see her at the beginning. It’s the FF1 theme song, and you apparently memory-holed a scene where Jack is humming that song with Jed asking when Jack taught her the song. He can’t answer since he obviously doesn’t remember teaching her, so just dodges the question by just “It’s a classic. Everyone knows it.”
As hilarious as it might be that Sarah would attempt to play nuMetal on her lute, that’s not at all what’s happening in that flashback. In other words this is just a long-winded way of saying you were being deliberately obtuse and purposely inflating your sin count.
Another video with the 1st Sin count that goes over 2 minutes, I wonder how long we can keep up this trend…?
I use his video's first sin as a review
Dunkey's reaction to the ending was priceless
It feels like SE wanted to take a shot at souls like game based on the job system so they got kei tecmo to do it, and then, completely unrelated to it, they also wanted to make an anniversary game about FF1 with a bunch of references to the main series, time loops and alternate dimensions, at some point both ideas were merged without the necessary budget to realize any one them and we got this game where none of the original concepts were realized to it's proper extent.
I still had fun with it tho.
It’s usually better to make something new rather than a remake or remaster of a game. Mostly ppl you already have a fanbase that you do anything to assure that they get the correct scenes that they want to see.
@@dale7326 Honestly, this game's ending made me want a remake of FF1 with SoP being canon. Kind of like how FF7R legitimized all of its side content. It would be strange as it would be a remake/sequel to a game where the characters swear, but this game left so much up in the air (the Lufenians, the unnamed collaborator, and Jack's plan against them) I want to see what Square has planned.
In regards to the gear system, there is a fair bit of depth to it. The game will throw a lot of gear at you yes, but the affinity it has to jobs is why you hold on to it, as the higher affinity, the better bonuses that you’ll receive when playing said job. Bonuses like WHM having an auto raise for anyone 1 time, Cyclic Warriors added Chaosbringer buff, those come in handy for fights.
And for the combat, there’s stuff there to be had, as there are quite a bit of inputs for abilities, and mid combat job switching can be beneficial in some situations. I don’t think you really have it enough credit, I wouldn’t call it a Nioh clone, rather something that strays from the traditional Darksouls formula, and actually works in some regard, as you can easily chain together casting say Diaja then quick switch to MNK and execute the Twin Dragon combo. Or stacking up on WHM buffs with Knights Blessing of Light buff and be an unkillable tank. There are a lot of different combos to experiment with in this game, and as stated previously, makes it far from a Nioh or Dark souls clone.
"works in some regard" describes it pretty well
Yet none of the combat in the game requires that sort of min maxing. Like seriously you can sleep through most of the fights and still win.
And is it just me or do the bosses go out of their way to die ? I had to put forth effort to die to them.
@@clothar23 I mean on the the hardest difficulty, bosses can easily pose a challenge, and even some optional challenges, such as the tripe boss fight one( don’t remember the name, but it’s where you fought Astos at) can give you a run for your money
It is DS clone. All of Squares recent failures was them trying to clone successful titles. This game, that Destiny clone and their Mario clone. Square only cares about profit and its fans can't see past the high quality graphics.
I enjoyed not understanding what I tried to understand about this in my misunderstanding.
Great job!
The sins around the King talking about Chaos is likely that he's referring to it as a force (emotion-infected darkness), not a monster. It's kind of the same problem with KH now that I think about it, especially since they've added a character that is literally called Darkness.
"We must defeat Chaos!" "No Jack, you are Chaos." two sentences, I know.
26:15 she can’t love a song like that? If anything that adds way more personality to her bland ass character. It’s funny, but it’s not impossible that she would have an interest in that genre of music.
he had her listen to the Theme of Final Fantasy, though
@@UnicornStorm so he took the scene out of context to make a joke is what I’m hearing.
You mention not many publishers making a good Dark Souls-esque game. Have you not heard of Gunfire and Remnant: From the Ashes? Also known as "Dark Souls with guns". It's honestly a pretty fun game if you have 1-2 friends to go through the campaign with, and a lot of people have noted it's difficult, but somewhat more fare than Dark Souls since you CAN conceivably figure out the bosses and beat them quickly if you're skilled and observant, whereas Dark Souls games tend to...require you to die a few times to figure out mechanics (though the endless minions in boss fights for "challenge" in multiplayer can be a smidge annoying...it also ensures you never run out of ammo, which is a plus)
Yes, another Dartigan video. Life is good. Do Sleeping Dog's. ☺️
He already did that one
You’re in luck!
"I dare you to summarize this in one sentence."
Me: Can summarize this in one word: Chaos.
Excellent video! Your humor is what makes these videos so fun. My vote for next game to be sinned is House of Ashes!
LOL so like I thought from my first impressions, this really is a Nomura-like KH game X°°°D Awesome work as always Dart! :D
You know there’s something endearingly charming about how utterly nonsensical the plot of this game was.
Most games nowadays try to be ironic or tongue in cheek, but this game is completely sincere and there's something admirable about that.
It's like watching a puppy who can't get its head out of a cereal box.
@@JABRIEL251and while you laugh at the puppy, he's plotting on how to rob you while you sleep.
The plot can to be summed up in 1 sentence. Hell, 1 word even.
Nomura
I don't care what anyone says I genuinely loved so much of this game it might be my favorite title this year if not the last couple years
As usual, I am astounded by the sheer length of the first sin. I swear it gets longer every video.
I came to see if CHAOS exists in this video...
Has anyone seen Chaos
"What kind of person wants to get their ass kicked instead of a conversation?"
Video game NPCs. It happens all the time.
I almost like died for real coughing with the Susie and John analogy. So freaking accurate!
Guardians of the Galaxy is one of the best linear single player action adventures made in the last decade..
It could have been a good game if the protagonist added "cares" to his sentence at 16:27
How to describe the game in one sentence: Nomura style retcons.
Oh, nice, a game I’m not playing/going to play, so I can watch this this week. Score.
26:43 you realize that’s how Princesses are in old stories
Take a shot every time CHAOS is said! 💀😂
Guardians of the Galaxy was great!
Im so glad to finally hear someone else recognize Nomura for the incoherent charlatan he is. That superfluous ruffian implodes anything he gets his hands on with convoluted time space dimension shenanigans.
I feel like he read that FFI had time travel and he just went nuts with it in this.
Like he did with the cannon ghost execution in ff7 remake. Litteraly killing the phisical representation of FF7 ps1 cannonical story beign respected. Breaking the 4th wall and pissing of all FF7 fans.
Oh you'll love dinkey then
@@alfasilverblade lol FF7 fans arent pissed. Its a great direction they are going with the remake.
@@maxsmith746 also, now it takes 20 f-ing slash with cloud massive buster sword to cut down a tiny gun dude who just ignore your attack and shoot you while your slicing him with a sword bigger than his whole body. And they badly incorporated FF13 Stager in FF7.
"Angry post nut clarity" is my new favourite thing
One day soon, Dartigan's video will be made up of only one long first sin!
Is it just me or do you also find the animations and overall lack of polish amusing? Its so wierd how we went from 7 Remake to this, its actually so bad that its just straight up part of the charm.
I'm surprised there wasn't a grunt counter bonus round😅
1:45 YES! This is exactly what I've put together myself; but don't have the diligence to criticize. Having a world with both future & past technology confuses me on what the rules r, therefore I can't engage or care about the story..
Dude, FF7 had both future and past technologies and everyone loved that game. The fuck is different here?
Also, FF1 NES, Flying Fortress was a space station. A space station, in a medieval world, let that sink in.
@@TheCyclicGamer 1st of all: I was talking about modern JRPG's, not past; Tecnically all Final Fantasy games have Sci Fi Tech or High Tech, but in FF4 the Futuristic Technology is learned by you & the people of the world along the way, (Its not all available at the opening of the game).. So it gives you time to adapt to the elements outside the genre/setting.👍😎
@@zeableunam Ok, but here's the thing.
In FF7, Midgar is the most advanced civilization in the whole game, quite cyberpunk, and at one point it was at war with Wutai. Wutai, from what I could tell, was entirely a Japan Edo-period civilization, I don't even recall if they had guns or not.
Somehow, Wutai not only managed to prevent themselves from being wiped out by a nation miles ahead in their technology, but didn't actually bother to research said technology to improve themselves. That's terrible worldbuilding.
Stranger of Paradise actually gets this right. Cornelia was at war with Lufenia, a highly advanced civilization, and if you look around the town of Cornelia itself in the game, you'll notice Neon Signs, Electric Lamposts, Hand Scanners, etc.
Meaning that while Cornelia was fighting Lufenia and even losing, they were still researching and applying their technology, even if the final result was still quite limited compared to Lufenia's.
Also, and this is explained in the Fools Missives, Lufenia has been taking locations from other FF games and porting them over to the world that SOP takes place in. So the "Advanced Sci-fi in Fantasy Setting" thing makes sense. Inb4 you say "Well why didn't know one else in the world notice this?!" It's the same reason you don't go walking into a hungry bear's cave, these places are inhabited by dangerous creatures and monsters.
Plus, if we're being honest, most FF games have terrible worldbuilding.
Literally been there since FF1.
@@TheDapperDragon ?
CHAOS
The John & Susie joke was fucking hilarious
Man you brought up Kingdom Hearts a lot in this video 😂😂😂😂
25:46 I laughed before you actually said that because yep that’s basically it lol
The plot in one sentence: "Jack wants to kill Chaos so bad he even becomes Chaos so other people can kill him instead"
I might have missed all the aliens and darkness and Nomura parts, but who cares? IT'S ALL ABOUT CHAOS BABY! THE TRAILERS DIDN'T LIE!
19:01 not a sin, but a funny joke, I’ve been thinking about this for a while now but why not a joke counter? Since sins are meant to be for the title “Everything Wrong With *insert game*”
Idk, you’re the content creator here, just an idea is all. Could be a way to pad out the video if you want it over 20 minutes anyway
EDIT: so everyone will shut the hell up about this, I KNOW this channel is based off cinemasins, but Cinemasins model is heavily flawed anyway that’s not a point against this comment. If you bring up “this is based off cinemasins” again in my replies I’m not responding.
This is the same thing that gets cinema sins a ton of shit
these videos are meant for fun and light critique, they are almost never seriously trying to criticize a product.
@@BrianBrianBrianBrianBrian the problem with cinemasins is that he actually gives real criticisms to a product and masks it behind “oh it’s just jokes” when even if you look at the sins from the perspective of just being jokes they’re just bad because they have no basis in what’s actually happening on screen. So when he says “oh it’s just jokes” it rings hollow because the joke itself doesn’t make any sense since it’s ACTUALLY criticism of the film done poorly
Hell they actively manipulate scenes just to make a “sin”, that’s not a joke that’s just blatant getting information wrong on purpose
This Series is based on CinemaSins. I think that explains it
@@JakeTylenol this is what I'm talking about though, it isn't genuine critism. It's nitpicks for the sake of entertainment. The jokes are almost always relevant (I won't lie and say they are all the time, but it's nowhere near as bad as you say). It's fine for you to not like his content, I myself don't really enjoy it. But it's important to recognize what his actual goals are.
there have been times when he tried to give genuine critism but most of the time its just family guy reference humor "this shot is the worst thing I've seen since (blank)".
@@BrianBrianBrianBrianBrian I don’t really see it that way, he actively uses the sins to pick apart scenes, I know he nitpicks in his videos but there are a lot of times where he’s actually criticizing the movie after manipulating a scene in editing so that it doesn’t make sense to his audience. If you want an example of this, go watch The Birdman videos if you haven’t and you can see all the examples.
But beyond that I can see this argument just going in circles if I haven’t broken through now, which is fine I don’t mean that with any disrespect,
I just personally find Cinemasins very disingenuous
With the talk about Chaos and Warrior of Light this sounds like the recycled "story" of Mobius FF - Warrior of Despair
Why is my tea not boiling fast enough? Darkness.
These videos kill me 😂