Some people hate the fact that Thabo Mbeki is a highly disciplined leader and member of the ANC who is still in the ANC even after they have humiliated him with the hope he will disappear so that they can destroy ANC and SA without disturbances! Also, the same people hate the fact that this man has always been honest about the rot in the ANC regardless of how the criticism will be received by theif in the ANC. People have heartache with the fact that this man is the best African President we have ever had. He is the best because he recognises his failures and mistakes and take responsibility, unlike others who have always projected themselves as victims. I'm talking about O " wenzeni U Zuma". In 2012 this man warned the country about future it's fading future and now all government entities and departments have collapsed. In 2017 he further told ANC that the membership is weak, they don't know ANC. Hence urgent implementation of ANC renewal.
Mbeki shame what did he do during his reign? You will fool those who do not know you. Nothing good came from you that’s why zuma chase you from the office. Bla bla bla to hell
Thank you eNCA for a fantastic interview. Thank you President Mbeki for staying true to serving South Africa and your honest and, not so easy to admit, truth that you seek and speak. As always your advice is pragmatic and clear. I sincerely hope our current leadership takes your advice to heart and acts on it. I am confident an Arab spring will never happen here.
Is this the same Mbeki that told Eskom to take a hike in 1999 when government was informed that the grid needs to be be upgraded and nuclear power plants needed to be built ASAP?
Guma i agree with you his educated Politicus the Country would be going better with Président Thabo Mbeki sure God Bless him open yours eyes in the future better innovation leaders succes 🤞🙏❤
That is a serious analysis through what I have read. It tells me that, you have the rear ability of understanding when institutional memory translates to individual responsibility. You read a book of Individual and Collective Responsibility: Massacre at My Lai. That is the in between between management and leadership.
he is amongst the reason why the ANC is on its death bed. His neoliberal policies has failed south africa and yet he want to speak as moral authority, can you point out any policy that has worked under Mbeki?
Kgabo, You have freedom of speech. What you just said is your opinion, you are entitled to your own opinion and in essence I am very much entitled to mine.
YES with the media! I don’t understand how people reason nowadays. Instead of doubting or taking my word for it, just research! Search for it. I don’t get why people make statements without any attempts to find out the information. TM had media talks always. Whether it is for TMali, or in some corporate events. He always has Q and As. Some are hours long. Just because you haven’t come across them doesn’t mean they aren’t there. Again, you can do a quick search and find them instead of doubting or debating it. 😂😂🤦🏾
I think Mr Mbeki understands that the country has and will always respect him, so by him telling it like it is is not problematic but holding Leadership accountable, simple.
This is actually the culture of the Anc, to speak your mind freely and to challenge leadership without fear or favour. This extends to any imstitution that the Anc may be in charge of such as Government. He is being a true cadre of the movement.
Love this interview especially with one that also wore the shoes of President... however, as youth, the ANC is in trouble as we vote ANC due to the way we were raised by our parents, ANC gave our parents freedom that they fought for hence u will find our Gogo's voting ANC and telling their children to do so aswell, but now we are living in different times, and our now struggle is different from those that came before us. The ANC is now comfortable since they won the struggle to liberate, but if they don't restructure and listen to the youth,our struggle will now become the ANC and ours will be won when we take them out of our way...just my opinion
Remember former president Mandela said if the ANC does not deliver do to them what you did to the Apartheid regime. So your opinion couldn't be further from the truth. Get your friends and take action.
You saying alot of true statements. But also it can be said ...How many young black people or Youth are interested in politics. We can still have a black president which will be great but just not from the ANC. Imagine a new Black president who truly cares for his people. Wow that would be great.
As a child in the early to mid 2000s I remember in Thabo Mbekis tenure as President we had a very healthy dollar to Rand exchange rate and a very good level of standard of living... Thabo Mbeki is intelligent and wise, If the AnC were to be audited we'd probably be taking the first step towards a good direction
Edzani i agree with you its now a bitter peper with these leaders Thabo Mbeki his educated politicus and honesly he wás following Mandela to be a Good Président for SA sorry its never happen maybe in the future better innovation leaders we hope so stay safe 🤞🤞
Edzani yes Thabo Mbeki he was following Mandela to rulled the Country good as possibly a politicus with brainstorm they hád Vote him out as Président and choose Zuma he made a biggest mess óf Country escape with Billions its bittere pillen we 🤞🤞 for the future hoping that people open their eyes and have seen the colapse economie and environment all disappear now take care 🙏
@@anelenyokane555 Anele i agree with you maybe in the future better to choose Good Leaders Who can rulled the Country a have a peacefull living as we can see everything is down down then before think about succes stay safe 🤞🤞🙏
Clyde you have a Good memories about Président Mbeki yes i agree with you educated politicus with brainstorm for his Country now is a bitter peper with these leaders succes in future Vote for better SA stay safe
I hope his comrades are listening that the "National Development Plan" is just a vision and not a concrete plan. They must go to China and Singapore and see what plans looks like, they have targets and dates and take maximum of 5 years to implement.
Mbeki was our waiter in Spur the other day. It shows that no matter how wealthy the man is, he is still about serving the people. I hated working at Spur myself.
Besides the political, economic and social policy blunders which were designed during Thabo Mbeki's reign that are too numerous to mention here( Moeletsi Mbeki points too these eloquently elsewhere), the ANC has no discipline and some of these policies like BEE, Cadre Deployment and the electoral system are the root causes of their failure and a recipe for corruption. The narrative that the ANC is good at diagnosis is misguided. The ANC is quick to point to the symptoms and admit they are responsible but never to the causes which are systemic.
How I would have Loved to see “eNCA speaks to current President Cyril Ramaphosa" instead of former President Thabo Mbeki...... I think as a Nation we deserve a President interview or a Press Conference more especially after they just had a National Policy Conference.
I believe they do if everyone votes. Truth be told, people love ANC. I wish PAC was the main opposition party. They also fought very hard, may be harder than the ANC for our freedom. In that way we would have a choice just like the US and the UK has. Who else can we vote for. Please don't mention EFF we all know that their purpose is to avenge themselves not to better us. They will fail dismally to half the things ANC has done. That is my opinion don't shoot me please 🙂
There’s a reason why late President Mandela had Mr Mbeki has his deputy and later his successor. He may have made a few mistakes just like any president, including the likes of Barrack Obama but Mr Mbeki is still a highly principled man who wanted to serve his people to the best that he could and the type of president South Africa needed and still needs today. Never forget that Mr Mbeki was one of many who saw Zuma’s true colours very early and as a result dismissed Zuma as the deputy president after his first corruption allegations emerged but unfortunately the cancerous and greed fuelled Zuma allies within saw that the corruption taps would soon run dry after Zuma’s departure and they would soon starve. Thuus they made it their vindicated mission to get Mr Mbeki out of power and put Zuma back into power but this time as the president, so that those very same corruption taps would flow again and the rest is obviously the history of state capture as we know of it today.
I remember Mr Mbeki as a young child when my parents attended meetings in Lusaka. He is highly principled and the policies he put in place have been trampled on. We will regret this forever
He traded those principles for power and BEE. He was the architect of GEAR, he allowed the flight of mining capital, he was responsible for the trickle down BEE model policy, the Arms deal corruption which all resulted in the highest inequality in the world. All this can be traced back to Thabo Mbeki's rule. Go check his own brother Moeletsi Mbeki's analysis if you don't believe me. As for Chucks he himself is uninitiated and lacks understanding.
@@YepTextPromoCode Yeah Right so all his policies resulted in the Most UnEqual society in the world, LMAO!! Come bro that’s a legacy of apartheid, and being dealt a terrible hand in the negotiation of economic deleveraging from white Monopoly Capital there after. Matter of facts BEE should have been looked at as a frame work precursor for reparations instead of finished and polish article of latter, Man did wonders during his tenure, sure his not perfect, but the best post apartheid President by far.
Come now bro you're going to defend him at all costs. Apartheid legacy is a default shield! In fact on the contrary the ANC won hands down in the negotiations. Why do you think the Nationalist party no longer exists - all opposition was decimated by the ANC. You yourself have praised Thabo for achieving economic growth, where was Apartheid legacy when he did that? Matter of fact, BEE was a recipe for disaster, remember that when Thabo was challenged about the potential problems of BEE he argued in favor of trickle -down economy taking care of Apartheid legacy that you now invoke as a defense. As for the DA they have been too happy with ANC policies until the ANC went too far with corruption. Theirs was just to give the ANC a semblance of democracy.
You can summon them all to speak all kinds of things. There is no will in Afrikans to take self responsibility and shame destiny into our own hands. We keep waiting for some wishful messiah to lie to us eloquently. What is it that a politician can do for you that you cannot do for yourself?
Nahana just to be in lieu with you....it's the lieing part for me hey...I can't and won't lie to myself but on the other hand I have the politicians to lie to me...hahaaaa Lmfao LOL 🤣 😆 😅
It's tough to deal with because you built an organization that depended entirely on graft, vote buying and horse trading and ideology is stopping you from fixing it. Self delusion in practice.
How many attempts do we give to the ruling organization to prove that it has the vision and capacity to achieve it ? In sport it is only 3 if I am not mistaken. So, may be it's time to replace the present team and give chance to those who has not only a vision but a detailed 5 years effective plan of development for South Africa ?
Hey, you all knew Zuma was a corrupt character who was going to be a a big problem, but you courted him to get the KZN vote. So you put party before country even way back in 1994.
If anything, Mbeki was opposed to Zuma's election and it was the RET faction in evidence today, along with the idiot Malema (then an ANC member who claimed he would die for Zuma), who authored and backed Mbeki's removal. Let's stick to facts boet. Zuma was initially a stalwart and got to lead in KZN because of his service. It was a mistake way back then, but Zuma only proved to be the doos he is in later years. Power corrupts and it started corrupting Zuma while he was in KZN leadership. A weak and greedy Ahole
ANC must be voted out and cannot be given another chance.That would be playing with our lives and the lives of our children and grand children.Going forward whoever forms government must devolve services including police, planning,rails so that services can resume and so that locals can eliminate criminals among them that are out of control..Provinces should be allowed to restore the death death sentence if they so deam fit to root out crime in their neighborhoods.
If ANC has shown us hopelessness thus far, then I think any Party that you think can do better by giving it the benefit of the doubt, then choose that party bcos it has not proven itself to fail, after a lot of chances, you should be right in your decision for any other party.
Former president is very intelligent. He makes it simple. He says the vision is with Ramaphosa but the know how is with social partners. They should come on Board and stop treating the process as a bargaining council. He is a deep thinker, one of the best leaders that ANC has ever produced.
Former Chief Justice Mogoeng is the right man for the job.This country deserves a hardcore brave ethical classical leader. Maybe ANC must employ him for presidency.
I hear you but I don't think so. I think we are desperate for good leadership and we tend to choose someone who was good at something and put our hopes on them, whereas they are only good at that one particular thing. That is my opinion. I still believe that Ramaphosa is a good president it's just that he came in when we are tired of ANC promises 😴 and the looting that happened under Zuma is not helping the situation. We now owe R400B because of Eskom. This debt happened under Zuma.
Somewhere somehow it evokes the curiosity and temptation to ask the question "was the ANC really ready to govern" as stated back in 1994? Com'n. The difference between Vision and the Plan? With so many billionaire members? Or maybe ba thutse ke chelete?
Some might argue, within the corrupt members within the ANC, they are the "people". To say, they are the people who need to be served. This distinction of defining who the "people" are, is the key to understanding the ambitions and objectives of the members within the organization & aligning interests.
One of the many blunders the ANC made was getting rid of you Sadly and your recent statements is spot on if the ANC doesn't wake up and clean up 2024 will be a huge wake up but Sadly to late for mama
i was young during his presidency, but all i remember was just how hopeful and positive people where back then, the future was looking good. Mbeki was by no means perfect, and had made alot of mistakes, however he was competent and everyone felt secure under his leadership. Now its different, now we're bitter, distrustful and resentful of each other. seems like the rainbow nation left with him.
Mbeki Mboweni Manuel etc sold out the revolution in Zambia in 1986, with secret meetings with Apartheidists. The ANC offered Apartheidists Sunset clause without asking for it. Know your history jita. Read books. "The road to democracy in South Africa" " The story of Afrika" "History of all Nations" etc.
Self Employed businesses is an important sector for employing the population. The education of South Africa needs to be transformative. Not just to maintain Apartheid policies. ANC lacks the long game approach to policies #ubuntu is absent…
Mr Thabo mbeki is just the right person to take South Africa forward out of this mess we all are facing Crime.. Corruption.. NO SERVICE DELIVERY.. they voted him out because they knew he won't tolerate any Nonsense. . I Salute him 🇿🇦
# History reapeats itself,let us face the economy facts about Tatu Thabo Mbeki.#ECONOMY WISE=THE RAND WAS BECOMING STRONGER EVERYDAY.#DO TO OTHERS.................GOD IS DOING WHAT THEY DID TO TATU THABO MBEKI.#LONG LIVE SPIRIT OF TATU MBEKI,LONG LIVE.#HEY NANA ENKLEK LITLOFELA KAIII.#SOUTH AFRICA HAS BECOMING ETHOPIA.#NO JOBS,NO SASSA R350 INCREASEMENT,FOOD PRICE IS HIGH AS WELL AS PTROL.OUR RAND IS BECOMING NONCESE.#WHERE IS FREE ELECTRICY AND FREE EDUCATION.#VOTE FOR ANC WE WILL OFFER FREE ELECTRICITY,WATER,FREE EDUCATION.WISHED I NEVER MOVED OUT FROM DIEPSOWETO.NO ESKOM CAR ROAMS AROUND THERE EVEN WATER MUNICIPALITY.#DIEPKLOOF HAS TURENED TO BE THE BILL PAYMENTS FOR SOWETO.#TO HELL WITH GOVERMENT WE AS BLACK PEOPLE WE DONT LOVE EACH OTHER.WHITE PEOPLE ARE PERI PERI IN OUR LIVES.BRING BACK WHITE PRESIDENT SO THAT WE CAN ALL WORK.STOP CHOWING MONEY THAT OUR BLACK PEOPLE WORK FOR EVERYDAY HARDER.#HEAVEN IS NOT FOR RICH PEOPLE AND NOT EVERYONE WILL SEE HEAVEN.HOW MANY PEOPLE WHERE THERE BEFORE SEEING THE PROMISE LAND?HOW MANY PEOPLE SAW THE PROMISE LAND?BILLION OF PEOPLE WHERE THERE BUT 2 PEOPLE SAW THE PROMISE LAND.
There are people who know the word government ,but lack understanding of what is a government. Government is by the people ,for the people and to the people not by the governors,for the governors and to governors.
I appreciate background in understanding how things came to be, that allows us to get into solutions, which was the presidents point. I didnt appreciate the dismissive tone and saying its the past to an ongoing issue.
The ANC works really hard on saving the ANC!!,since its birth the ANC has been saving the ANC!,if you ask them to save the Country!,they will tell you to wait!,cause they have to save the ANC first!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
At the end of the day poverty is personal, you as an individual do some introspection and ask yourself if you're okay with being poor and keep ANC in power so that they can steal & enrich their associates in your expense or you want a clear chance of soft life?
ANC just need a reset by being voted out of power..... People within the ANC are hungry for power and self enrichment and it will be impossible to fix the ANC while people are on a high horse.....
This is one man that can bring restoration and dignity back to our beloved country. Only if ANC could allow the veterans to give them guidance a lot of problems we are facing today could be fixed. Media tried in this interview to play dirty however I adore how smart the former president is he did not become impulsive to retaliate when they bring the loadshedding issue to highlight that it started from him, and he gave the context of the issue breaking it down to finer details. However, we need wise people like Thabo Mbeki to come together and address the issues of this country because our people the electors do not know they are used as puppet so when we can the public figure something will sink into both parties.
In 6 months we'll be saying elections r next yr... Let's vote ANC out and have it fix its problems aside... We living in poverty and it's real... We need someone with no problems who'll hit the ground running with no problems...
Tatu Mbeki please reflect on the root cause of this entire economic mess this country finds itself in...speak about the 1996 policies because that was the moment for capitalists, looters, corruptees, unemployment, widened inequality gap...mnxmmm.
@@sthembisomthembu395 No, but it was her who started the epidemic of corruption within the ANC. Let's not forget Sarafina 2 brother. NDZ is as much leadership material as Jacob proved to be. NOT WORTHY ...
No talks about wasting taxpayers money and being held responsible for what has happened we as taxpayers pay our electricty rates every month in full for the service we dont get we should start to pay loadshedding rates
@@nhloniphoingqwele5433 race was not a discussion the government are wasting taxpayers money by not being accountable how can one just misuse 10 billion rand and decide lets get more money because we waste the money
Voting for the ANC is the same as writing letters to santa
Exactly
No lies told here. Fat man travelling at the speed of Light to deliver service delivery, if only.
😅😅😅😅 true hey after all will be no answer 😅😅😅
We will keep writing to Santa
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Some people hate the fact that Thabo Mbeki is a highly disciplined leader and member of the ANC who is still in the ANC even after they have humiliated him with the hope he will disappear so that they can destroy ANC and SA without disturbances!
Also, the same people hate the fact that this man has always been honest about the rot in the ANC regardless of how the criticism will be received by theif in the ANC.
People have heartache with the fact that this man is the best African President we have ever had. He is the best because he recognises his failures and mistakes and take responsibility, unlike others who have always projected themselves as victims. I'm talking about O " wenzeni U Zuma".
In 2012 this man warned the country about future it's fading future and now all government entities and departments have collapsed.
In 2017 he further told ANC that the membership is weak, they don't know ANC. Hence urgent implementation of ANC renewal.
Well said sir👏
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Mbeki shame what did he do during his reign? You will fool those who do not know you. Nothing good came from you that’s why zuma chase you from the office. Bla bla bla to hell
They are all in on it together, don’t fall for it.
Well said
Thank you eNCA for a fantastic interview. Thank you President Mbeki for staying true to serving South Africa and your honest and, not so easy to admit, truth that you seek and speak. As always your advice is pragmatic and clear. I sincerely hope our current leadership takes your advice to heart and acts on it. I am confident an Arab spring will never happen here.
They are all in on it together, don’t fall for it.
Mbeki was our best president, hence they ousted him.
Is this the same Mbeki that told Eskom to take a hike in 1999 when government was informed that the grid needs to be be upgraded and nuclear power plants needed to be built ASAP?
And he is involved to all these crises we face with in this country.
President Mbeki, disappointed me when he didn't deal with illegal immigration,in the early 2000s. That could have created border law and order
I still love this man. The quality of our economy was so good in his tenure! May the good Lord bless you President Thabo Mbeki.🙏
Guma i agree with you his educated Politicus the Country would be going better with Président Thabo Mbeki sure God Bless him open yours eyes in the future better innovation leaders succes 🤞🙏❤
We should've known we are doomed when ANC forced such competence out of it's leadership.
That is a serious analysis through what I have read. It tells me that, you have the rear ability of understanding when institutional memory translates to individual responsibility. You read a book of Individual and Collective Responsibility: Massacre at My Lai. That is the in between between management and leadership.
uThabo wayekulungele ukuba uMongameli ñgoba nokuphathwa kwezimali wayekufundele pho ubuxoki base South Africa, ayi wathi anti abadle ubetroot bamkhipha bamkhiphela isizathu esincanne, weee yazini ukuthi akukho soka lingenasici nofikaphi nibakhipha nibafaka,🤣🤣🤣 nozeniphathwe uNgizwe.
@@thembekilemkhize jib
" Its a vision, not a plan..."
Can we have Thabo Mbeki back as president as in yesterday to galvanize the vision of where South Africa ought to be!
he is amongst the reason why the ANC is on its death bed. His neoliberal policies has failed south africa and yet he want to speak as moral authority, can you point out any policy that has worked under Mbeki?
Kgabo, You have freedom of speech. What you just said is your opinion, you are entitled to your own opinion and in essence I am very much entitled to mine.
Yes please.
Same what's up group with Zuma Rama Rama
They are all in on it together, don’t fall for it.
Isn't it weird that in SA it's very rare to have our former presidents and ministers engage in interviews
You spot on!!! Such interviews or discussions would take us a long way! That is the same party “ANC”!!!!
Mbeki isn't talkative. Very secretive
Do a quick search on RUclips now. You’ll easily find Mbeki interviews and Q and As. This is probably the tenth this year alone.
@@makwandechosi4945 with the media? Nah I doubt. Especially during his term he didn't talk too much
YES with the media! I don’t understand how people reason nowadays. Instead of doubting or taking my word for it, just research! Search for it. I don’t get why people make statements without any attempts to find out the information. TM had media talks always. Whether it is for TMali, or in some corporate events. He always has Q and As. Some are hours long. Just because you haven’t come across them doesn’t mean they aren’t there. Again, you can do a quick search and find them instead of doubting or debating it. 😂😂🤦🏾
I have respect for you Mr Mbeki! What a pity you are not president anymore. Thank you eANC for a great interview.
I think Mr Mbeki understands that the country has and will always respect him, so by him telling it like it is is not problematic but holding Leadership accountable, simple.
This is actually the culture of the Anc, to speak your mind freely and to challenge leadership without fear or favour. This extends to any imstitution that the Anc may be in charge of such as Government. He is being a true cadre of the movement.
Yes Naked Truth that cannot be DENIED.
Love this interview especially with one that also wore the shoes of President... however, as youth, the ANC is in trouble as we vote ANC due to the way we were raised by our parents, ANC gave our parents freedom that they fought for hence u will find our Gogo's voting ANC and telling their children to do so aswell, but now we are living in different times, and our now struggle is different from those that came before us. The ANC is now comfortable since they won the struggle to liberate, but if they don't restructure and listen to the youth,our struggle will now become the ANC and ours will be won when we take them out of our way...just my opinion
I couldn't have said it better 👌
Remember former president Mandela said if the ANC does not deliver do to them what you did to the Apartheid regime. So your opinion couldn't be further from the truth. Get your friends and take action.
You saying alot of true statements. But also it can be said ...How many young black people or Youth are interested in politics. We can still have a black president which will be great but just not from the ANC. Imagine a new Black president who truly cares for his people. Wow that would be great.
@@naturegreen123 black young president 👊🏽
JG Zuma could NEVER speak so eloquently.
eloquently yet saying nothing that will help us, South Africa is becoming a failed state yet people are praised for speaking eloquently
They are all in on it together, don’t fall for it.
@@kgabopeter6202 that's true we are not going to eat eloquent speaking here. We want food not speaking
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@@malixolesolani4572 well if he said "I'd rather not comment" your old ass would be on here complaining.
So good that President Mbeki had this conversation. Well done Dan on a great interview. Wish to see President Ramaphosa doing such interviews
Thanks Henna any movies on Netflix you are working on?
Hatred for foreigners now no more foreigners legal documents or not
@@aquarius1500 what’s this
What's what Thulani
@@aquarius1500 you're statement is not making sense? How/what do you mean? What's hatred of foreigners to do with the Mbeki interview?
As a child in the early to mid 2000s I remember in Thabo Mbekis tenure as President we had a very healthy dollar to Rand exchange rate and a very good level of standard of living... Thabo Mbeki is intelligent and wise, If the AnC were to be audited we'd probably be taking the first step towards a good direction
Edzani i agree with you its now a bitter peper with these leaders Thabo Mbeki his educated politicus and honesly he wás following Mandela to be a Good Président for SA sorry its never happen maybe in the future better innovation leaders we hope so stay safe 🤞🤞
Edzani yes Thabo Mbeki he was following Mandela to rulled the Country good as possibly a politicus with brainstorm they hád Vote him out as Président and choose Zuma he made a biggest mess óf Country escape with Billions its bittere pillen we 🤞🤞 for the future hoping that people open their eyes and have seen the colapse economie and environment all disappear now take care 🙏
Then we had people saying umaliwa irand sizolicola such an ignorant statement frm a leader 😂🤣😂🤣😂
@@anelenyokane555 Anele i agree with you maybe in the future better to choose Good Leaders Who can rulled the Country a have a peacefull living as we can see everything is down down then before think about succes stay safe 🤞🤞🙏
Clyde you have a Good memories about Président Mbeki yes i agree with you educated politicus with brainstorm for his Country now is a bitter peper with these leaders succes in future Vote for better SA stay safe
Thank you Dan a great interview. Thank you Mr Mbeki if only our lovely country had more leaders like you. Sharp and honest.
I hope his comrades are listening that the "National Development Plan" is just a vision and not a concrete plan. They must go to China and Singapore and see what plans looks like, they have targets and dates and take maximum of 5 years to implement.
Including his and Trevor Manuel crafted GEAR policy were never meanibgful to our plight
They are all in on it together, don’t fall for it.
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ENCA trusted u with this interview Sir u very brilliant
"To serve the people" not enrich yourself.
He’s not exonerating himself from overlooking some of the issues that were critical for the movement during his tenures
Outstanding work by Dan. Excellent questions and listening
They are all in on it together, don’t fall for it.
Supper good 👌
Mbeki was our waiter in Spur the other day. It shows that no matter how wealthy the man is, he is still about serving the people. I hated working at Spur myself.
Besides the political, economic and social policy blunders which were designed during Thabo Mbeki's reign that are too numerous to mention here( Moeletsi Mbeki points too these eloquently elsewhere), the ANC has no discipline and some of these policies like BEE, Cadre Deployment and the electoral system are the root causes of their failure and a recipe for corruption. The narrative that the ANC is good at diagnosis is misguided. The ANC is quick to point to the symptoms and admit they are responsible but never to the causes which are systemic.
They are all in on it together, don’t fall for it.
A proper Geeza!!!!Mzanzi is done with the ANC in power!!!
VERY MUCH DONE 👋 BYE. BYE 😂😂 AFRICAN..national corup
Done!
Talk.. Talk... The ANC have verbal diaree.
How I would have Loved to see “eNCA speaks to current President Cyril Ramaphosa" instead of former President Thabo Mbeki...... I think as a Nation we deserve a President interview or a Press Conference more especially after they just had a National Policy Conference.
We need him as a president
They are all in on it together, don’t fall for it.
Mbeki is still strong and sound
The only way Anc can cleans its self is by stepping aside, let others rule too
Do they still have a 50% Voter's support?
Very true
@@angelabaxter6298 they have less support nationally, that doesn't mean that other parties are growing, I think most people have given up on politics
I believe they do if everyone votes. Truth be told, people love ANC. I wish PAC was the main opposition party. They also fought very hard, may be harder than the ANC for our freedom. In that way we would have a choice just like the US and the UK has. Who else can we vote for. Please don't mention EFF we all know that their purpose is to avenge themselves not to better us. They will fail dismally to half the things ANC has done. That is my opinion don't shoot me please 🙂
ANC risks being in the same WhatsApp group with ZANU PF.
There’s a reason why late President Mandela had Mr Mbeki has his deputy and later his successor. He may have made a few mistakes just like any president, including the likes of Barrack Obama but Mr Mbeki is still a highly principled man who wanted to serve his people to the best that he could and the type of president South Africa needed and still needs today. Never forget that Mr Mbeki was one of many who saw Zuma’s true colours very early and as a result dismissed Zuma as the deputy president after his first corruption allegations emerged but unfortunately the cancerous and greed fuelled Zuma allies within saw that the corruption taps would soon run dry after Zuma’s departure and they would soon starve. Thuus they made it their vindicated mission to get Mr Mbeki out of power and put Zuma back into power but this time as the president, so that those very same corruption taps would flow again and the rest is obviously the history of state capture as we know of it today.
Very Powerful
Very true there Goodfella. 👌
These Zuma was biggest Egoïstisch as Président escape with Billions country destroying economie i dont want even to know about him its mess
Always eloquent. My best President 👌
I remember Mr Mbeki as a young child when my parents attended meetings in Lusaka. He is highly principled and the policies he put in place have been trampled on. We will regret this forever
Facts, yet the sad thing is the uninitiated don’t understand this.
He traded those principles for power and BEE. He was the architect of GEAR, he allowed the flight of mining capital, he was responsible for the trickle down BEE model policy, the Arms deal corruption which all resulted in the highest inequality in the world. All this can be traced back to Thabo Mbeki's rule. Go check his own brother Moeletsi Mbeki's analysis if you don't believe me. As for Chucks he himself is uninitiated and lacks understanding.
@@YepTextPromoCode Yeah Right so all his policies resulted in the Most UnEqual society in the world, LMAO!! Come bro that’s a legacy of apartheid, and being dealt a terrible hand in the negotiation of economic deleveraging from white Monopoly Capital there after. Matter of facts BEE should have been looked at as a frame work precursor for reparations instead of finished and polish article of latter, Man did wonders during his tenure, sure his not perfect, but the best post apartheid President by far.
Come now bro you're going to defend him at all costs. Apartheid legacy is a default shield! In fact on the contrary the ANC won hands down in the negotiations. Why do you think the Nationalist party no longer exists - all opposition was decimated by the ANC. You yourself have praised Thabo for achieving economic growth, where was Apartheid legacy when he did that? Matter of fact, BEE was a recipe for disaster, remember that when Thabo was challenged about the potential problems of BEE he argued in favor of trickle -down economy taking care of Apartheid legacy that you now invoke as a defense. As for the DA they have been too happy with ANC policies until the ANC went too far with corruption. Theirs was just to give the ANC a semblance of democracy.
We don’t care about ANC anymore.
Mbeki is leadership, very sharp.
I really enjoy watching this interview
I can't forget the ANC(Zuma,Malema) coup against T-bos Mbeki.What a leader.
Always enjoy listening to our former Philosopher-King
You can summon them all to speak all kinds of things. There is no will in Afrikans to take self responsibility and shame destiny into our own hands. We keep waiting for some wishful messiah to lie to us eloquently.
What is it that a politician can do for you that you cannot do for yourself?
Nahana just to be in lieu with you....it's the lieing part for me hey...I can't and won't lie to myself but on the other hand I have the politicians to lie to me...hahaaaa Lmfao LOL 🤣 😆 😅
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It's tough to deal with because you built an organization that depended entirely on graft, vote buying and horse trading and ideology is stopping you from fixing it. Self delusion in practice.
Words of wisdom from an inspirational leader. Please heed his wise words for the survival of the Organization..
They are all in on it together, don’t fall for it.
I agree with Nanoobis your so-called inspirational leader is trying to save the organization to protect his personal meal ticket.
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GOOD interview i agree ...the lesson is NEVER TAKE DOWN A FENCE IF YOU NOT SURE WHATS THE REASON FOR IT BEING THERE...
How many attempts do we give to the ruling organization to prove that it has the vision and capacity to achieve it ? In sport it is only 3 if I am not mistaken. So, may be it's time to replace the present team and give chance to those who has not only a vision but a detailed 5 years effective plan of development for South Africa ?
God bless you Mr Mbeki. You did your best for South Africa.
Hey, you all knew Zuma was a corrupt character who was going to be a a big problem, but you courted him to get the KZN vote. So you put party before country even way back in 1994.
If anything, Mbeki was opposed to Zuma's election and it was the RET faction in evidence today, along with the idiot Malema (then an ANC member who claimed he would die for Zuma), who authored and backed Mbeki's removal. Let's stick to facts boet. Zuma was initially a stalwart and got to lead in KZN because of his service. It was a mistake way back then, but Zuma only proved to be the doos he is in later years. Power corrupts and it started corrupting Zuma while he was in KZN leadership. A weak and greedy Ahole
Go tell the police with your evidence stop making noise on RUclips ramaposa is destroying the country wena you're telling us about Zuma
That's the problem in this country money and party before country
@@zodwagumede5700 eish are you super mampara?Don't you know the history of Zuma..pre 94...are you a born free
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ANC must be voted out and cannot be given another chance.That would be playing with our lives and the lives of our children and grand children.Going forward whoever forms government must devolve services including police, planning,rails so that services can resume and so that locals can eliminate criminals among them that are out of control..Provinces should be allowed to restore the death death sentence if they so deam fit to root out crime in their neighborhoods.
So which party do you think can do better so that we vote it in
If ANC has shown us hopelessness thus far, then I think any Party that you think can do better by giving it the benefit of the doubt, then choose that party bcos it has not proven itself to fail, after a lot of chances, you should be right in your decision for any other party.
Former president is very intelligent. He makes it simple. He says the vision is with Ramaphosa but the know how is with social partners. They should come on Board and stop treating the process as a bargaining council. He is a deep thinker, one of the best leaders that ANC has ever produced.
I didn't know load shedding started in 2007 and Mbeki was in office thank you bro Den for great interview I Will make sure I don't vote for anc
Former Chief Justice Mogoeng is the right man for the job.This country deserves a hardcore brave ethical classical leader. Maybe ANC must employ him for presidency.
I hear you but I don't think so. I think we are desperate for good leadership and we tend to choose someone who was good at something and put our hopes on them, whereas they are only good at that one particular thing. That is my opinion.
I still believe that Ramaphosa is a good president it's just that he came in when we are tired of ANC promises 😴 and the looting that happened under Zuma is not helping the situation. We now owe R400B because of Eskom. This debt happened under Zuma.
I always get Informative and fresh news
Somewhere somehow it evokes the curiosity and temptation to ask the question "was the ANC really ready to govern" as stated back in 1994? Com'n. The difference between Vision and the Plan? With so many billionaire members? Or maybe ba thutse ke chelete?
I like the former president he always on point we need the peoples like him in this country and Africa the continent
I just like the way Former President Mbeki explained the vision and the plan of the ANC government and regain the support of people.
Some might argue, within the corrupt members within the ANC, they are the "people". To say, they are the people who need to be served. This distinction of defining who the "people" are, is the key to understanding the ambitions and objectives of the members within the organization & aligning interests.
One of the many blunders the ANC made was getting rid of you Sadly and your recent statements is spot on if the ANC doesn't wake up and clean up 2024 will be a huge wake up but Sadly to late for mama
They are all in on it together, don’t fall for it.
Fantastic interview from eNCA and Dan!
Huge respect for President Thabo Mbeki...
i was young during his presidency, but all i remember was just how hopeful and positive people where back then, the future was looking good. Mbeki was by no means perfect, and had made alot of mistakes, however he was competent and everyone felt secure under his leadership. Now its different, now we're bitter, distrustful and resentful of each other. seems like the rainbow nation left with him.
Mbeki Mboweni Manuel etc sold out the revolution in Zambia in 1986, with secret meetings with Apartheidists. The ANC offered Apartheidists Sunset clause without asking for it. Know your history jita. Read books. "The road to democracy in South Africa" " The story of Afrika" "History of all Nations" etc.
Easy on the ear, not complicating things brief and concise
Self Employed businesses is an important sector for employing the population.
The education of South Africa needs to be transformative. Not just to maintain Apartheid policies. ANC lacks the long game approach to policies #ubuntu is absent…
Mr Thabo mbeki is just the right person to take South Africa forward out of this mess we all are facing Crime.. Corruption.. NO SERVICE DELIVERY.. they voted him out because they knew he won't tolerate any Nonsense. . I Salute him 🇿🇦
They are all in on it together, don’t fall for it.
You have nailed it.
@@nanoobis you a NOOB! Read my friend, READ!!!!!!!
We don't ñeed them let's see other parties the DA or actionsa pls
At 80years Mr Thabo Mbeki still looks well and healthy,it shows that the man has invested a lot in himself and he's not a controversial figure
I thought there is a snake in my speaker 🤪🥴
# History reapeats itself,let us face the economy facts about Tatu Thabo Mbeki.#ECONOMY WISE=THE RAND WAS BECOMING STRONGER EVERYDAY.#DO TO OTHERS.................GOD IS DOING WHAT THEY DID TO TATU THABO MBEKI.#LONG LIVE SPIRIT OF TATU MBEKI,LONG LIVE.#HEY NANA ENKLEK LITLOFELA KAIII.#SOUTH AFRICA HAS BECOMING ETHOPIA.#NO JOBS,NO SASSA R350 INCREASEMENT,FOOD PRICE IS HIGH AS WELL AS PTROL.OUR RAND IS BECOMING NONCESE.#WHERE IS FREE ELECTRICY AND FREE EDUCATION.#VOTE FOR ANC WE WILL OFFER FREE ELECTRICITY,WATER,FREE EDUCATION.WISHED I NEVER MOVED OUT FROM DIEPSOWETO.NO ESKOM CAR ROAMS AROUND THERE EVEN WATER MUNICIPALITY.#DIEPKLOOF HAS TURENED TO BE THE BILL PAYMENTS FOR SOWETO.#TO HELL WITH GOVERMENT WE AS BLACK PEOPLE WE DONT LOVE EACH OTHER.WHITE PEOPLE ARE PERI PERI IN OUR LIVES.BRING BACK WHITE PRESIDENT SO THAT WE CAN ALL WORK.STOP CHOWING MONEY THAT OUR BLACK PEOPLE WORK FOR EVERYDAY HARDER.#HEAVEN IS NOT FOR RICH PEOPLE AND NOT EVERYONE WILL SEE HEAVEN.HOW MANY PEOPLE WHERE THERE BEFORE SEEING THE PROMISE LAND?HOW MANY PEOPLE SAW THE PROMISE LAND?BILLION OF PEOPLE WHERE THERE BUT 2 PEOPLE SAW THE PROMISE LAND.
He might be captured yes syavuma but the guy is always objective, strict and solution oriented...
There are people who know the word government ,but lack understanding of what is a government. Government is by the people ,for the people and to the people not by the governors,for the governors and to governors.
This was the last president we had
The last President who's brain cells are working
Malema kicked him out
They are all in on it together, don’t fall for it.
Great interview! Hope this switches on/jumpstarts this old ANC machine 👀
They are all in on it together, don’t fall for it.
The only Man That can revive the ANC.
its too late, baba
He is telling the truth, my mother said she will stop voting until the Anc corrects itself.
Learnt a lot...
They didn't gave chance baba wethu president Mbeki I'm sure you were against their corruption
Great interview bro Dan
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Our sense of hopelessness suggests that the ANC cannot be rescued.
Quality of the Leaders! AFRICA UNITY
Every word he says also brings the ANC further down.
The truth is even worse 🤦🏻♂️
President Mbeki looks great and much younger.
I appreciate background in understanding how things came to be, that allows us to get into solutions, which was the presidents point. I didnt appreciate the dismissive tone and saying its the past to an ongoing issue.
That is the truth right there.
Good interview
Too bright for ordinary SAns lotata
You are wrong
My favourite South African statesman of all times
To Little To Late!
This guy is far ahead of Zuma and Ramaphosa combined.
The information tape should describe His Excellency as the Former SA President, not Former ANC President - it's not proper.
Simply put the ANC must move from the Vision of tomorrow to the plan of Now.
When are we dealing with the foreigners issue taking our economy and owning our businesses??!!!
The ANC works really hard on saving the ANC!!,since its birth the ANC has been saving the ANC!,if you ask them to save the Country!,they will tell you to wait!,cause they have to save the ANC first!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
At the end of the day poverty is personal, you as an individual do some introspection and ask yourself if you're okay with being poor and keep ANC in power so that they can steal & enrich their associates in your expense or you want a clear chance of soft life?
The guy who is heavily breathing in this video needs to see a doctor, please do us a favor.
It's the devil on his shoulder
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ANC is decided first thing first make peace with everyone including the issue of former President I assure you people will be united
ANC just need a reset by being voted out of power..... People within the ANC are hungry for power and self enrichment and it will be impossible to fix the ANC while people are on a high horse.....
This is one man that can bring restoration and dignity back to our beloved country. Only if ANC could allow the veterans to give them guidance a lot of problems we are facing today could be fixed. Media tried in this interview to play dirty however I adore how smart the former president is he did not become impulsive to retaliate when they bring the loadshedding issue to highlight that it started from him, and he gave the context of the issue breaking it down to finer details. However, we need wise people like Thabo Mbeki to come together and address the issues of this country because our people the electors do not know they are used as puppet so when we can the public figure something will sink into both parties.
Organisations get audited. Likewise, parties & their members must be audited. The career criminals have long captured ANC.
Only president we had
My president.....should still be there
In 6 months we'll be saying elections r next yr... Let's vote ANC out and have it fix its problems aside... We living in poverty and it's real... We need someone with no problems who'll hit the ground running with no problems...
ANC must be voted out and cannot be given another chance.That would be playing with our lives and the lives of our children and grand children
Tatu Mbeki please reflect on the root cause of this entire economic mess this country finds itself in...speak about the 1996 policies because that was the moment for capitalists, looters, corruptees, unemployment, widened inequality gap...mnxmmm.
Looting started since the arrival of Jan Van Riebeeck. Britain, USA, Europe, etc - The above countries are wealthy because they looted from Africa.
He should tell us about the children denied life saving Medication too... Diagnose that
In other words WE HAVE FAILED we took in the likes of NDZ and we cant get rid of her and her extended family till today
So its her who hid the money under the mattress
@@sthembisomthembu395 no she and her ex husband send the mattress to Dubai
@@sthembisomthembu395 No, but it was her who started the epidemic of corruption within the ANC. Let's not forget Sarafina 2 brother. NDZ is as much leadership material as Jacob proved to be. NOT WORTHY ...
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No talks about wasting taxpayers money and being held responsible for what has happened we as taxpayers pay our electricty rates every month in full for the service we dont get we should start to pay loadshedding rates
All citizens are tax payers. You're white tax payers not special
@@nhloniphoingqwele5433 race was not a discussion the government are wasting taxpayers money by not being accountable how can one just misuse 10 billion rand and decide lets get more money because we waste the money