Anti-Materiel Rifle! The Mojave Meets the Commonwealth - Fallout 4 Creation Club Update
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The creation club gives us so much NCR gear but they just won’t give us the damn veteran ranger armor! (I said this like 2 years ago I played on PS4)
There's a free mod for it in the nexus
Fellow Crusader, deus Vult! Maybe if they did on creation club though there would be a whole lot more detail though
@Gyvs7 it sucks to be on PS4
There are things called mods
Bethesda:fallout 4 belongs to us and no one else!
Obsidian:hold my sunset sarsaparilla
The book said that Zane will be assassinated by someone who had the "mirror". Well that is true, because Zane had a "mirror" and he killed himself.
The devil...is in the details!
Reaver Fang
The devil _is_ the details!
Thats what i thought
Aaaaahh! Nice
"...But when he read the words and discovered *_the hunter_* had a mirror of their own..."
Idk but to me it seemed clear to me the book was referring to someone OTHER than zane, as in the person apparently coming for him (the bounty hunter- You) so he killed himself first to keep that satisfaction for himself :p
Anti material rifle in FNV: tears deathclaws in half.
Anti material rifle in fo4: is chewed on by deathclaws as a snack.
The one in fo4 feels like a plastic toy, like a nerf gun or something
And left sided bolt. wtf lol
Anti-Material Rifle to Material Rifle.
@@grupdivision1226 I believe what you were trying to say is that it went from an anti-material rifle to an anti-rifle
@@grupdivision1226 anti-material rifle to.... *rifle*
Richtofen: Any book that rewrites itself can be rewritten...first rule of interdimensional travel
As in Edward Richthofen?
@@dixieland8900 yes. It's clear as crystal.
True
The act of reading the book changes what's written. It's almost the same as time travel. Traveling back in time changes history because of the act of doing it. The past is the future, the future is the present, the present is the past.
I heard his voice in my head reading this comment
New Vegas won't go quietly, Bethesda can count on that.
Because NV players are always right! /s
I wish they would add the service rifle and/or marksman carbine they were dope plus I would want more use for all the 5.56 I got(20k) rather than just using it for the "Assualt rifle" or December's Child
Muttzy95 how about adding the ranger armor
The Last Space Wolf Yeah that would be dope also or even the variants from the Lonesome Road DLC
Muttzy95 i know a mod by the same name on nexus but i need to check the mod list because i am on mobile right now
Oxhorn, you misunderstand the concept of the book. It is a mirror, as in, a mirror to the person who reads it. The same page you read that spoke of zane killing himself is the same page that Zane read, that would have shown something else to his eyes. Its an 'eye of the beholder' sort of thing. The writing on the page changes to REFLECT the current situation, and the consqeuences of your actions. You would never be able to read what Zane or connor of the others read, because you are not the mirror of them. The page is your mirror, just like it is their mirror. A mirrors image changes depending on who is looking into it.
This reminded me of a 'Welcome to Night Vale' episode called 'A Story About You'.
My thoughts exactly. Still, it's a damn fine gun, as usual for asXas. (He seems to have even restrained himself on that damned blue tape compulsion). Not sure if it's $4 fine, though.
Phade102 I think this is meant to be the most likely of infinity many outcomes
Joshua Tercero yes because it IS elder scrolls quest
@ Joshua Tercero - By the same token though, if the Krivbeknih was a mod rather than part of the fallout universe, then i'm sure the same argument would be made about that as well.
I wonder if maybe the Dev team has a somewhat different vision of the game than the players seemingly do, because to me this fits perfectly in line with the themes of Krivbeknih, the Cabot family and Dunwich Borers.
Oxhorn: complains about magic factor
Museum Of Witchcraft: Am I a joke to you?
Ro n the museum of witch craft had no magic, the noises were the deathclaw
Christopher BM day that again but slowly
Ro n do you know the history of Salem? It’s a irl place where Witch trials were held and inocents were killed. So stop being such an ignorant asshole.
@@ghost-dg6tj Well... Mabye they had one actually magical item in the lore of this game. It woudn't be too odd by Fallout standards. There are the mother of the fog the aliens and that greepy statue/visions in that one mine.
yeah, but dunwich is completely cool with him.
I like how there is a note saying that its super effective agains power armour yet he never tests it
Maybe Preston Garvey wrote the story, but he forgot to add the part where you have to gave save a settlement.
Holy shit that'd be amazing. You'd pick up a Note and I'd just read "Another settlement Needs our Help" over and over again for like 6 or 7 pages. XD
Rusty Boi Do you know Preston? He would never forget.
Another settlement needs your help Rusty boi
I have the anti-materiel rifle
God damnit that's what I was gonna say
The magical book pages are the exact pages you pick up, the implication is that they change from person to person, the book doesnt tell the future, it mirrors the present. thats what i got out of it anyway
so did i
i am stupid he did mention point look out book of dead i mistake it for the knife
Nope, he totally mentions the Krivbeknih at 24:03
shit your right i was thinking off the knife
I actually like the quest, I’m willing to suspend my immersion for a little bit for a fetch quest that’s told in an interesting way. I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t interested and compelled to see what the others had written on their pages
For anyone reading this, the rifle is FREE today
Sadly I wasnt playing 6 months ago
Damn, 6 months late
Well sh*t i missed it :(
Sadly I missed it 6 months ago
Dammit! Missed.
They could have made a Quest involving a NCR soldier coming to the commonwealth or something.
Voodoo Baby To be honest, your idea sounds way more interesting than what we got here.
Christian Garcia thank you!😊 I would think that would be the most logical to bade a queston.
Voodoo Baby You're welcome :) Who knows, maybe our NCR soldier came out to the Commonwealth to be a weapon smith/vendor (this would add the old guns from FO:NV) but he did not sell the AMR, instead he sent you on a quest to get the parts for him/her. Things like screws, gears, metal and stuff like that for the actual parts of the gun (stock, muzzle, barrel etc.) And as you got the parts he/she would tell you a little bit about serving for the Mojave and end up sharing a little bit about their personal life, all leading up to them being your companion (with an added affinity system) once the AMR is complete.
Yeah, instead of just the Bear stamped on it, I wish the story gave us more of a connection to NV and the NCR.
Voodoo Baby but why would a ncr solider go all the way to Boston
Oxhorn: I think it's over priced.
Sweets: *perfectly timed sandman kill*
This beast was my weapon of choice in NV for hunting deathclaws. I love this thing to death.
Same, even one of the gun runner guards at the 188 trading post comments "you see what those anti material rifles to to a deathclaw?"
YCS-186 is actually the best to be honest
@@PLANDerLinde99 Wild Wasteland FTW
@@PLANDerLinde99 haha NO
This + the ranger sequoia is how I killed the deathclaw mother / all the deathclaws in that cave and got that clutch of deathclaw eggs for the viper
The writer was obviously our lord and saver, The Holy Mothman
when talking about magic in the fallout universe you forgot that in fallout 2 there is a extremely rare random encounter where you find a portal and when you go in it you are transported to vault 13 after exploring for a bit you accidentally break the water chip that breaks in the first fallout which starts the first fallout game also vault 13 at that time is abandoned so you cant say that your character was just teleported to vault 13 the charterer also went back in time.
The creator said this was non canon
Ethan Jessen I would say that no creation club things are cannon because that would mess up the lore in many ways
@@riotrecker8978 x-02 flashbacks
Also are we forgetting ghosts canonically exist in dunwhich borers, and aliens are a thing, and there was a ghost kid in the Grandchester mystery mansion, am I missing any other ones?
Oh Oxhorn. 32 minutes for a rifle. That’s why I watch this channel. You just do very good commentary and lore videos, etc.
That or he is trying to get the most RUclips money lol
No offense but i have seen no 30s ads thoughout the whole video :D
@@spiralvivitt3052 get youtube red and u dont have to watch ads
KINNEY
>"The Paper Mirror"
>Quest created by Kris Takahashi
>starts by someone leaving notes that precisely describe what you just done to reach it
That wasn't just a callback to FNV and the rifle, that's also a homage to the homonym quest from Skyrim's Interesting NPCs mod, which Kris spearheaded and directed. Double nostalgia points
@The Doctor the way it was told and used was kind of stupid ye , but saying that it has no place is not really true , we have the cabot family , we had that haunted hospital with flashbacks in fallout 3 point lookout , we had ghosts in fallout 2 , and we have mama murphy , which also predicts the future.
But i think the book is meant to predict "a" future , not the future , as the description in the CC said , are we bound to a destiny?
@The Doctor I personally don’t think it was stupid.
@The Doctor out of place, yes
Stupid no
It's a ridiculous quest. Every time i play this quest. I'm like they charged 4 dollars for this rubbish.
@The Doctor ever been to dunwhich burrow?
A year later and this is now free
Yeah, I got it free too, cheapskates for the win
My shop wont load or i would have it
I know rihht
KING RULEZ yep
I’m fairly new to this game. I bought the gun for free and it’s not in my inventory. Am I supposed to do something?
I really appreciate how thorough you are in your videos. As a huge fallout fan who gets sick of some of the inconveniences of playing the game, your vids are a good substitute
His videos sure helped me find things in the New Vegas DLCs that I never noticed before. I've combed the hell out of the Sierra Madre, Zion, Big Mountain, and the Divide but there was still stuff I had missed every time. I still have never blown all the warheads in Lonesome Road nor found the Survivalist's Rifle in Honest Hearts (not that I ever use 12.7 mm guns in the game).
If I ever visit the real Las Vegas, I'd love nothing more than to do it as a fan pilgrimage. Mirroring the Courier's path (assuming you do it the "right way", as Obsidian intended), I'd start in the real Goodsprings, then go south through Primm, turn east and head through Nipton, then turn north and go up through where Novac and HELIOS One would be, then detour to Boulder City, and from there to the IRL Strip. Once at the Strip, I'd then go to the Stratosphere Las Vegas and go to the front desk. I'd ask the receptionist to speak to a Robert House, telling them that I'm a courier he hired to deliver him a platinum poker chip but got intercepted by a bunch of toughs at Goodsprings, robbed of the chip, shot in the head, and buried alive in a shallow grave. If the receptionist says there's no Mr. House, I'll tell them he might answer to Not-at-Home. I'd then visit the IRL Nellis Air Force Base, Red Rock Canyon, Nelson, etc., capping it all off with a trip to everyone's favorite Old World wall, Hoover Dam.
cantwakeup.png I agree. I very much enjoy watching his videos and I definitely like to watch his reviews before I buy any CC. Another thing I enjoy is he explains if his mods interfere with the CC. I watched another RUclips do this CC and he found a Halloween Magazine during the quest. I spent some time hunting down answers until I found a different youtuber. She went to the location and it wasn’t there, leaving me to believe it was a Mod he did not complete before “The Paper Mirror” quest.
There can only be one
Ox, remember the facts that it's from the museum of witchcraft, known for its macabre and unknown stories. I think it's a great story device, just not for this item, maybe for a new set of demonic weapons, like krymth's tooth.
PS The book is rewriting itself to fit everyone's story, that's the point if an all knowing book, not to reveal all of its secrets, it narrates how it would make sense to the reader. It would be weird if the book just ended at a blank page and wouldn't write anymore, and wi th the end of ones life the book just find a new host, someone who will have their story told. The book connects where ones story ends and the other begins.
awesome pfp
When instead of implementing content from a beloved title you just put a price on it instead.
Well, we don't want the same game over and over again, do we?
@@cirejc2235 dayum. Dissed
@@cirejc2235 well we kinda want them to Make a good game for once
I mean, we're getting new vegas remade in fallout 4
@@iRradiantRayne but that's fanmade and wont run on console.
Now if only .50 Cal guns actually did any real damage in fallout 4 like past games to make this add on worth it. Can't kill anything with snipers in fallout 4 with .50 even with the sniper and rifel perks maxed out. Unless you install a mod to up the damage
Yeah it's always disappointing to fully upgrade and then immediately put the old mod back on.
I highly recommend the manwell guns. they're 308 though
There's a thing called (perks)
@@sithis1101 there's a thing called relativity
@@coffeebreakhero3743 unfortunaly i dont know what u mean by that but mk
"With that said, I think it's overpriced"
*slice* "AUUGH!"
Lol great timing with that Sandman kill Oxhorn!
Here ya go! 31:50
Personally, a story about tracking down an ex-NCR Ranger, an outlaw that's running away from the NCR after killing a ranger and taking the gun, a traveling sub contractor of the Crimson Caravan ect. would of made a better lore friendly way to bring back a Mojave weapon.
I like this idea of a Mirrior book, but that kinda magic sounds like a daedric artifact that belongs in Skyrim not fallout.
There is a Paper Mirror quest in Skyrim, it is from the Interesting NPC's Mod
BIG IIIIIIIIIRON!!!! BIG IIIIIIIIIIIRON!!!!!
THE RANGER HAD A BIG IRON ON HIS HIP!!!!
BlazeLunaris The Cobat Family is a result of alien science, not magic.
The book in the Dunwitch building is the only thing supernatural I can think of.
I personally like to think that its actually a ranger gone rouge watching you very closely to try to make you get your hands on the rifle to continue his legacy
Funny that wardaddy made a mod with unique custom meshes and animations meanwhile the paid CC version is a lazy reskin. Weird that free mods have more effort in them than paid CC items?
I guess because BGS was adamant for creators to follow their game design
What? A reskin of what weapon? No weapon. That’s what. So shut the fuck up and don’t bite the hand that feeds you.
@@missingindy lmfao shut the fuck up bethesda boot licker
its how they make monoy
Wardaddy actually puts time and effort into his mods then theres the creation club
I think the book being “wrong” is actually just them changing their story, and thus the book is changing the story written in it to reflect that...
What I think is that the book is being written from some form of supernatural being that is bored. Like, it's saying whatever it believes will cause the most death possible
Sounds like poor writing to me.
@@tylerisadumb your name fits you
Oh hey it's the Narrator, glad to see he's still getting work.
Wish he'd come back though, it gets lonely around the office pushing buttons all day.
Stanley don’t worry Stanley the narrator will come back just stay in your office building and make sure to go through the door the narrator tells you to go through
Don't worry I am sure you won't end up in the "serious room" for infinity years. As long as you don't cheat.
i liked the reasoning the people you talked to about the story ox. I also like to think the reason why there was a page with your characters name on it in the museum, was because the book found its next 'victim' and told you where to go to 'tie' up some loose ends aka Zane. either that or end their story so i can focus on yours. to which point i care to admit that i found the story to be enticing.
The book is alive and preys on its victims similar to the Necronomicon in The Evil Dead franchise.
The book might have been made my witches and was just sitting in the museum of Witchcraft when the raiders found it. The book was demonic which made sense if demons did stuff. The only problem is like Ox said it does not fit with Fallout Lore.
Icelord02 yea ima buy for story purposes
Mama Murphy: “I’m gonna write a book”
*Watches video months after it was released*
*Thinks: Whilst Oxhorn is scratching his head and trying to puzzle this mirror book thing out, Hermaeus Mora is giggling to itself and searching for the next victim/test subject.*
The Paper Mirror is also the name of a quest inside the Interesting NPCs mod for Skyrim made by (guess who) Kris Takahashi. It follows a very similar story, and it's not like it's never shown up in history before. I've heard more than a few myths and folk-tales about a book that tells the future, but the more it's used the more you're cursed. We also have to remember that there's no shortage of insanity in Fallout, after all you can't forget the ghost in the mansion in Nuka World. She's not tied to any ancient evil deity, but she's just as paranormal.
The story reminds me of the Stanley Parable.
The quest sounds like it's an Alan Wake homage. Without spoiling too much, throughout that game you find pages of a manuscript, and the events of the game are dictated in these pages. And one of the characters (a sort of deus ex machina and MacGuffin hybrid) is named Thomas Zane, which is the raider leader's name in this mod.
J_Squatch So this entire mod was just a reference to Alan Wake? Damn, a mod in a game referencing another game.
Could be, then again, I didn't make the mod.
Or the creator got it from Future Diary.
The story should have been about how the sniper got to the commonwealth
I really love the look of the gun I just wish they made it a right handed rifle.
But don’t worry, there’s a mod for that.
I know why the fuck is it left handed that’s stupid as fuck the developers must have been high as fuck I swear 🤦♂️
@@i3ioplayer179 yeah why do they make the rifles left handed ?
@@OperatorMax1993 to avoid copy right is my guess
@@i3ioplayer179 you would be right if the weapons had real world counterparts, which none except the Thompson and deliver do.
The story i heard was that they wanted to add a “cool factor” and show off there animations for reloads.
Got a mod for the missing bipod?
In case anyone was curious the anti material rifle is a 100% copy of the FN Herstal manufactured PGM Hecate II. IDENTICAL. I like it when we get real guns. Like the handmade rifle (AKM), deliverer (Walther PP series), and submachine gun (M1928 Thompson.) The radium rifle would be a perfect copy of the Gustloff VG-1 nazi carbine if it weren't for the capacitors and wires. I cant stand how goofy the assault rifle looks lol.
Jordan Constantine Wish I could get the Anit Material Assault Rifle. With Explosive rounds.
I agree on the assault rifle. It has that giant goofy barrel cover that looks like world war 1 water cooling tech.
FN herstal out of Belgium actually
Honestly I like the look of the assault rifle but it shouldn’t be called the assault rifle. I’ve gotten a mod off nexus that changes the name to light machine gun and changes the firerate to be slower. It suits the gun better.
@@fatherted776 unfortunately I play on ps4
I think the book works just fine in Fallout 4. There is a real but very limited supernatural aspect to the world it exists. Kremvh's Tooth in vanilla and Mother of the Fog from Far Harbor are both part of this universe, and considering the book in question comes from the Museum of Witchcraft, I would guess the book is one such object.
i have a holo rifle/china lake mod that would nicely explain this weapon being in the commonwealth
the Mirror is a reference to Lovecraftiona lore which is Boston friendly as well as The King in Yellow, just like Pickman's Gallery and the Cabot house are both from Lovecraft and the King in Yellow stories.
17:20 real men go for the SHELL
How is it not manly to hit the part where it hurts most
Nick.s1010 because you want your enemies to suffer not have them be ended so slowly
18:30 did you shoot your silencer off lol
This is why you need to make sure that shit is on tight.
Lol he did. You gotta screw that shit on tight.
When you try to make a perfect weapon mod but something must go wrong one way or another...
i think it just went transparent from getting too close to the camera. it looks like it shot though
@@legatomodi3522 r/WOOOOOOOOOSH
I think it would be neat if the story had you hunt down and kill a courier that was NCR and became a raider. As you followed them around you'd find iconic items from fallout new vegas, Like a .357 revolver and a set of NCR armor. Then you'd have a fight with a courier and ED-E.
You were def on drugs when you wrote that lmao
The asasanator with the "mirror" was himself
I second your complaint about the way the story fragments were written, though from my perspective, it's more a matter of the quality of the writing. The stories seem like they were supposed to be in the Third-Person, Omniscient form of narration -- a pretty common style, used across pretty much every genre and by countless authors -- but the style of the writing, the specific word choices and the sense of flow, read more like someone's play-by-play commentary by a narrator, like someone's speaking out loud just off-stage as if giving direction to an inexperienced actor.
What might've helped sell this story is if the writing from this enigmatic oracular book read like an actual story -- detailing not just the actions of the actors, but the setting, the ambiance, the emotions and perhaps snippets of inner monologue running through their heads... y'know, that sort of thing. Without that kind of care and attention, the Book feels like a decent idea that was sorely underutilized by the very people that created it, and the quest tied to the gun feels flatter and more lifeless for it -- like someone put really drab beige wrapping paper around one of your birthday presents. Presentation counts for a lot more than some people think, really.
Suppose that's a good pro tip for any mod-makers out there: if you're cooking up a quest centered around narrative material and lore entries, get someone who writes to handle those -- because otherwise, you'll end up with narrative junkies like yours truly going over the script with a red pencil and making revisions instead of enjoying your mod.
The book seems like it was written by the Stanley Parable narrator.
Who’s reading this after Christmas 2019 and bought the rifle for free?
Packing Peanuts yeah
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Yep
Think you read too much into Zane's mirror. Or not enough. I mean the implication was supposed to be that he didn't know that anyone else had one (the page that was torn out by the final gang member was done in secret). And that what he read was probably exactly what you read. That it told him what was going to happen. That he was going to get mad, get depressed, realize the only way out was to shoot himself... just as the book predicted he was going to do.
At least that's how I read it personally. He didn't negate fate. He was reading literally this book describing his reaction to something and what he was doing, unable to stop himself. It's a somewhat uncommon, but not exactly unheard of horror trope that goes on. When someone gets a prophecy they're actively reading and it basically takes control of how they respond. Not just describing events passively but describing their own thoughts and emotions. Taking away any pretext of free will and choice from the person reading/hearing it.
It's an aspect of horror I actually really like, because it's far scarier than most other things. It butts against (but predates) what people call Cosmic Horror. The idea that you're insignificant. That despite everything you claim to be. Everything you think drives, defines, and distinguishes you... you can just be turned into a mindless pawn near effortlessly.
It's what the mod seemed to be going for. Set up from the very first story that you pick up. It tells you that you're going to just leave and go find this thing. Which of course you will.
It's thematic to say, New Vegas's Lonesome Road DLC. Where Ulysses comments on the nature of the player to just follow pip boy markers and instructions. That he brought this package to the Divide and pressed a button that demolished the Divide just because it was there and he wanted to know what it does.
Similarly it's pressing against the nature of the game and the player. As much as the game calls itself open world. As much as it might pretend that you can make any character... it is that easy to control you. That something can just dictate your fate and you'll do it without question.
They wanted to do it less in a satirical meta sense however, and more like that classic horror trope. The book is the Quest Markers and Objectives. It told the man he was going to get angry, depressed, drink, and commit suicide... and he was going to. Because it said so. It didn't need more of a reason than that. And what happens in a universe where the quest marker and objective maker will force you into that?
I'm glad you acknowledged the counter-argument with this quest. Plus, you brought about legitimate problems with its execution that I didn't notice on my run-through.
Ultimately it's a quest that definitely could have been done better, even if it's fun for people who enjoy some of the more fantastical elements of the universe such as myself.
Also it makes no sense to attach the gun to a quest that is completely irrelevant to it when they could have made something to really tie into the weapon's story. Imagine how great it would be to track down the story of a former NCR ranger who made their way to the Commonwealth and succumbed to their fate. That would have been much more appropriate.
yo... that would be awesome if they had tied NV to the commonwealth with an NCR vet... escaping the fate of NV in search for a better life in whatever faction you side with...
We could have had a Randall Clark level story about the journey of an NCR vet across the wasteland but instead we had a shitty fan fiction.
Reer123 no, you got a discount SCP Tale and a Anti-Material rifle
SCP?
Reer123 SCP Foundation. Google it.
I'd just like to point out that Fallout is a celebration of vintage sci-fi obsurdity, and IMO a creepy book that explains the future fits perfectly in the game that gave us Dunwich Borers and an alien crash-landing.
I enjoyed having your level capped in New Vegas. It made choosing your perks more meaningful. You couldn’t just make your character a master in every weapon type. It was always a huge decision early on in the game to make my character energy or ballistic focused, or be better at explosives but progress slower and be limited by on the primary weapon type. Not to mention, the amazing variety of weapons in each category. Being able to change the sights/stock/receiver/etc. of a weapon doesn’t even come close to having a larger variety of different weapons.
The different ammunition types were a lot more fun to play with too. But there is something to be said for the lack of a level cap in F:4; it's a lot more accessible for people that don't play many rpg games. That and sometimes it's fun to take an older character into completely new direction or test a new play style without going through that stupidly long tutorial. I can not, and will not, defend the legendary weapon system though.
Love how they're literally quoting the anime Future Diary
Its funny the Fallout: New Vegas dlc Gun Runners Arsenal is equal to the price of this creation $4. Yet it comes with less content. Not worth it.
Gun Runner's Arsenal
1. New weapons including Fallout 2's Bozar, Nuka Break, unique versions for the Brush Gun, Fat Man, Plasma Caster and many more respectively.
2. New Weapon Mods
3. New Achievements/Trophies
4. New Challenges
5. New Ammo Types like explosive .50 MG, Tiny Tots and Big Kid Mini Nukes. Etc.
Creation Club's Anti-Material Rifle
1. 2 Anti Material Rifles with Fallout 4's Hunting Rifle bolt animation
2. A quest that doesn't suit the franchise
3. That's pretty much it
Why are people comparing and actual DLC and a mod like really???
Out of Hell Gun When the 'mod' in question is sold, and put on display with other pieces of content that are the work of the developer themselves, a comparison to actual DLC is warranted.
+Out of Hell
The price of the mod is around the same as Gun Runner's Arsenal.
Ross Graham
But a lot of this is in the base game of FO4 itself. E.g. extensive modification, different modifications to damage inflicted like rads, incendiary, etc.
And to be honest, the GRA pack was only good for having the 3 extra ammunition types for the AMR and shotguns, because the cap pricing in game for all the modifications to your guns, and the guns, can reach upwards in the tens of thousands of caps. Really only attainable at end-game for maybe one weapon, or if you dump into barter and get enough caps.
Honestly I don't mind the quest. To me, it has a very HP Lovecraft feel with the book and all and given the Dunwich company, I think it kinda fits. But I do agree that is doesn't feel lore friendly that much.
I think it would have been better if say this was a quest with the AMR and we found it via a bounty on say, a Ex-NCR Ranger, who after say NV or maybe some time after, went AWOL and arrived in the Commonwealth with his Rifle in hand and possibly became a Raider or something.
The Wondering Storyteller i would have liked something tying in new vegas as well. Even if they took the cheap route and had an older boon that traveled to the commonwealth to retire and give up his weapon when you take care pf those tracking him. Would have been much more enjoyable
I'm disappointed in the AMR. It didn't feel powerful enough and you shoukdve had to raid a Gunner armory for it
Honestly, none of the fire arms in Fallout 4 feel as powerful as they should be. Everything is too bullet sponge-y. Thats why I play with mod weapons that let me boost the damage a bit and play on survival difficulty so that fire arms feel like a threat no matter who fires it. Ups the difficulty quite a bit, but it fits my play style much better since I play a sniper type most of the time.
@@imapopo2924 I just use the Modern Tactical Firearms mod that makes all the guns do over 100 damage half the time lol
Use the nexus one, its free and better too
@@realpatriot1769 I'm lazy and just sticking to NV
"It was a weapon that would outmatch the Bull, the Bear was proud of it..., the Bear could now bring hell towards the Bull..."
"Good luck traveling the Divide..."
I definately would have preferred a story line about gunners, raiders and such quarreling about this unique and powerful weapon, making you search for it and fight your way through untill you are ultimately confronted by the person wielding the rifle last in a difficult fight. That would have been more of a believable and engaging story than some stuff about magical books and such.
That difficult fight should be set up like MGS3's The End boss fight.
A fairly large open area but with waist high cover scattered about and about half a dozen or so sniping points that is out of VATS reach for the sniper to hunker down in and take pot shots at you, switching positions after 2 or 3 shots. The sniper would either have a movement speed modifier that turns him into Usain Bolt, or have invisibility when crouched.
How you deal with the sniper is up to you.
You can either pull out your own sniper rifle and try to find and shoot him first.
Put mines on what you think are sniping points and predicted pathways to blow him away.
Run about guns blazing in power armor and tank those .50 rounds and hope for the best.
Wait for night or take a stealthboy and sneak up on him.
Not a bad mod, but you can find a really OP anti-tank rifle on Nexus mods, its the semi-auto Soviet PTRS Rifle, and you can chamber it in 50BMG, 14.5 Russian or 20mm Hispano, with a nice selection of ammo types like armor piercing - Explosive. its huge, loud and devastating against low level mobs :D
Aussie50 who ever made this creation was reading to much SCP.
agreed. it might be the most satisfying gun i've ever fired in a game.
yeh I fully support open modding, the stuff on Nexus might be a but buggy at times, but for such a cheap monthly fee its great value
Um Nexus is completely free ??
lol i feel bad for you if you've been paying this whole time
i feel like bethesda could've taken this "mirror" idea and ran with it creating a whole in depth side quest it wouldve been really cool to have played through this mod finding the endings of more people in zane's raider gang eventually leading up to the sole survivor finding the book and destroying it getting a legendary antimaterial or harnessing its paranormal powers to give them a different legendary anti material rifle with a huge V.A.T.S. increase because V.A.T.S. can possibly be enhanced by its future seeing powers like a sharingan or something or it could give them a slow time affect or stop the game and see what the enemy is going to do without it actually happening ad would be great with seeing trajectories of grenades and the explanation could simply be that the raiders found the book in the museum of witchcraft and brought it to their lair and that the page that belongs to the sole survivor simply fell out the book from 200 years of wear and tear and the could've said that the creators of the dunwich company had roots in the museum of witchcraft
It could be kinda like the chronorium in Call of Duty Zombies storyline. The pages are always changing when you defy the book.
"Sweets's"
"Sweets's's's's's"
this creation quest definitely falls into the "Eldritch/supernatural" side of Fallout lore, like you said the Krivbeknih or Dunwich stories and their supernatural weirdness. i think The Book's suppose to be either a book of fate or a literal mirror of fates, changing to read out what happened and has some sort of memetic properties (reading the pages messes with the reader's mind slightly) or supernatural qualities. either or, it definitely predicts the most plausible future if nothing changes and it's likely the missing pages were "Sole Survivor" pages and/or an entirely different character who set the first page in the Witch Museum. Zane least likely, maybe Connor if he read the book enough, but i wanna say the original owner of both gun and book before Zane, as if they were twisted by the book to preform the tasks before accepting their story's end.
Lore friendly? i'd say possible but only if you accept the supernatural events in Fallout's lore as a "weird" canon. by that i mean, such events that either involve aliens or unexplained powers ARE canon by means of some insane super science is happening that we just can't fathom as we are. ex: Cabot and his family, the Krivbeknih, the Ghost of She (the flaming Yao Guai you can only fight when drugged), and maybe Far Harbor's Mother of the Fog tho that might push it a bit. recently i even watched your old video on one of the many attractions in Nuka World, the Grandchester Mystery Mansion, and that even held hints of supernatural happenings tho it all looks faked up until you finally spot the girl who runs away and vanishes at the dead end along with the squatter's notes on unusual events. so "The Mirror" could be comfortable among those canon events as it's supernatural and really hard to explain without the impossible being probable.
PancorRath I agree with your thoughts.
The misterious stranger could also fall under that category. How can a man appear and dissapear out of thin air and how can it show up in ever single game spawing hundreds of years.
A killer named Zane? Maybe you should also put Texas Red in there. He killed 20 men. Maybe an NCR Ranger should go after him. Maybe with a *big iron* ;)
I dunno if Marty would play FA4 though :)
I like how Oxhorn had a problem with magic even though Fallout 4 already has canon supernatural happenings, like Dunwich Borrers and a LITERAL child ghost in Nuka World
If this quest involved a rogue NCR 1st Recon solider instead of a magic book, it would have been more lore friendly and/or maybe get a full suit of NCR Combat Armour or something like that.
thx
100% agree. The quest wasn’t necessarily Lore driven.
You could throw in a jump scare whilst reading the notes, I would fall for it so hard
Zane was angered because his story had come to an end. He was using it to see his future and avoid other hunters that were after him. His story ran out because his death was unavoidable.
Oxhorn if i am correct the legendary weapons provided by the handmade Shotgun, and Anti-material Rifle all have special appearances for unique variants. As I have an incendiary AMR with a small flame paintscheme. And I have a Nimble legendary Handmade Shotgun with yellow wings on the side, and the word nimble on the barrel.
Need to look for more information to see if it is for all Anti-material rifle variants
Here is a mod for anyone who wants to have a right Handed AMR www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/31939
H2Velociraptor [Grant P] was your incendery amr from a drop? Would love one
Max-Road-Warrior Got it From a vendor. as you can find legendary versions of the guns in Vendors, such as Arturo, KLEO, and Daisy
Ah right OK I only thought Daisy had a variant. Thanks :)
Max-Road-Warrior Be warned tho my game is kin of messed up so it may not have the skin or something like that. Idk. But you can get the base and legendary versions of the gun from many weapon Vendors. Arturo got me the incendiary.
My interpretation the quest:
I think the book was similar to the Krivbeknih, but it had been destroyed/ripped apart. Since a page of it appeared to have magic properties, it made its way into the Museum of Witchcraft (I am assuming the page had always been there and the player can't interact with it until the creation was bought, not that because the creation was bought the page was put there). I think the reason the pages were referred to as mirrors was because they only show the fate of the reader. Because of this, reading a page Zane read would not show the reader what he saw since we are "seeing ourselves" in the mirror and not Zane. I also don't believe the pages tell the future (since we can defy the pages by not killing Ivy), instead they are leading the readers to reassemble the book.
So this quest is basically Future Diary inside of Fallout 4. That's pretty lit tbh
Oxhorn: “This doesn’t make sense”
Cabot Family: *sweating intensifies*
The Magic book heard of a settlement that needs your help.
If the mod said “When Zane returned from the quarry, he came back with the book.” Then we could have had a very good explanation
Travel to the Glowing Sea. There, you and I, we can have an ending to things.
Mettaton NEO11 ok Ulysses
Fallout 4 has a free version with more variety and funny modified versions
What's it called?
Getting some Mirai Nikki Flashbacks from the story
its basically mirai nikki without the yandere
@@omarrobelli6470 Man... The yandere is the best part...
@@imapopo2924 yukki!
But the book did tell him he was going to commit suicide. Because someone was coming for him and there was nothing he could do. Remember they were written in past tense just like yours. The fact that the person coming for him also had a mirror was what made him feel the mirror betrayed him. As it was deciding it was his time to die and someone else's time to help. Hence the "it will betray you too".
Also the page he slammed on the table is that page. The one telling him there was nothing he could do. The one you just read.
Not that I'd recommend anyone actually get this. It's still just paid mods.
We know from Fallout 1 and 2 that psychic powers exist and a lot of supernatural things are implied to exist in the Fallout world.
Got a theory as to why we don't read it from Zane's point of view... We aren't Zane. It is right there when he called it a "Paper Mirror" A mirror reflects. So how could we read Zane's Story except for when we were in view of the mirror?
Oxhorn if I was writing this quest I would make a new NPC that would be a NCR ranger and if you killed him you’d get the veteran NCR ranger armor
Or a companion
Too lore breaking , why would an NCR Ranger come randomly in the commonwealth ? It would make more sense if he isn't an NCR Ranger but just some guy wearing the armor , maybe make em an ex NCR Ranger
@@LordTrashcanRulez Its not too lore breaking. Example: Kelogg he was born in the NCR.
@@caillou1172 Well, given how long it talk to travel from west to east coast, I don't know how long it would've taken for this guy to get there, and not potentially die of old age or other circumstances, soooo.....
@@retrogamelover2012 well, a veteran ranger would be able.
I find that games very rarely get Lovecraftian style horror right. Lovecraftian horror focuses on a single character facing unknowable horrors, and leaves the reader wondering if it was a tale of the supernatural, or a tale of madness. Fallout doesn't leave you wondering at all; what happens is definitely supernatural. You pressed the Krivbekneh into the obelisk, and it let out an unearthly scream, killing any surviving ghouls. Lorenzo has lived well over 300 years because of the power of the crown, and can grant you a serum from his blood that makes you a berserker. The mirror tells the story of everyone who reads it, including their end. There is no illusion of the supernatural or threat of madness, it's all there.
Lorenzo's crown is from aliens though, isnt it?
I use the term "supernatural" as a broad spectrum term, including ghosts, gods, cryptids, and ancient aliens.
Spyglass i completely agree man, its all very out of place and unfortunately it just makes the overall immersion aspect of fallout 4 even worse than it already is...
I agree with your first thoughts on the quest. I wouldn't have finished reading the first note and only "read" the others to get the quest to move forward.
A good quest II can think of for 2 versions of the same weapon is have it based on 2 choices. Make the one you get in the quest have a unique legendary effect(different effects can be had) and overall better stats and the one you get from a vendor has a random vanilla effect with maybe less accuracy or range. Quest scenario... you find a note on a bulletin board asking for help retrieving something. Yes a fetch quest. So you talk to the quest giver and she claims her now ex had stolen a ring that's important to her when he left and she wants you to go get it. So typical fetch quest you go find the "thief" and have a choice of ask nicely as threateningly. Both get the same response of "I didn't steal her ring she gave it to me for our 1 year anniversary." If you asked threateningly he gets all angry and demands to fight you, which you pull out your gun and he immediately changes his mind on the fight gives you the ring and swears she really did give it to him and it's not worth the trouble. If you asked nicely he tells you the same story but instead of getting all mad he wants a bottle of booze for it and since you are in a bar there's booze to be had. Turns out the ring has a -5 luck legendary effect and is called Unlucky Ring. Now you go to deliver the ring.
When you give her the ring she tells you a sob story about a boyfriend that beat her once and she would like you to teach him a lesson, since she lied before you may not believe her but you do go confront him. When you come across him he is in a bank behind the window and there's a locked door to the right that requires a key which is hidden in the room you are in. You have a choice of being threatening or ask nicely about the incident. If you ask nicely he claims she slapped him so he left her. If you confront him he admits it and leaves by a back door which by the time you get through it he is long gone. So you return and she asks you to give the ring to someone she likes.
This ones simple, deliver the ring, but you get a choice on what to say to the guy. Choice A is "Brenda asked me to give this to you" Choice B is "You have an admirer who wanted you to have this." A he gets all the hell no's rolling, he saw how she treated his friend (first person). If you choose B he says thanks but no thanks his girlfriend would make him sleep on the couch for a month. So you return with the ring. When you arrive at her door you hear the second guy yelling at her and accusing her of stealing his "lucky" ring and thanks to her terrible bounty hunter she sent after him he was reminded of her existence. So you go into the room and he sees you are wearing the ring because as the quest designer I kinda equipped as you entered the room lol. He tells her he will deal with her after dealing with her new boyfriend/girlfriend that she gave his ring to and he draws the weapon with the legendary effect your choices set him up with and it's a fight to the death. Remember you have a -5 luck effect and he has a badass gun lol. So in the first part of the quest it was which weapon he will have, Second was to introduce the bad guy, third part was to get you out of the house and need to return as well as set the legendary on it.
In the end she sees the ring and gets scared because if you did unequip I the quest maker equipped it again and she tells you the ring made her steal it the first time and made her lie to you about her ex stealing it, and she doesn't know why she wanted you to confront the man she stole it from because that happened 10 years ago and she deserved it because she kicked him in the groin for forgetting her pork and beans and the ring made her do that. As for giving it to the other guy... she doesn't like him, he smells funny and his jokes are bad. She wants you to destroy the ring and heard Saugus Ironworks has a working smelter... only way to be sure. So you go toss it into the smelter/get a chance to play with your new toy and return for a cash reward, a safe place to sleep for the night in the spare bedroom, and you can get a home cooked meal once a day from her.
To tie the ring into Fallout lore, if you looked carefully at it you would have seen the name of the Dunwich exec/owner/family member mentioned in Fallout 3 on the inside of the ring. If you choose not to destroy the ring and lie to her and say you did, the next time you visit her for a meal or sleep(this will happen if you did "destroy" it but the third time you visit) she will be dead, mining gear is all over the house, and the ring is in her inventory with a note signed by the Dunwich person named on the ring... Turns out according to the note she is a Dunwich and she died because she denied her heritage and refused to do what was demanded of her through the ring. New quest begins and that's to destroy it for real this time, and once you do the quest sends you back to her house to bury her in her "garden". When you get to her house... Surprise!!!! she is there asking if everything is alright, you tell her that you didn't actually destroy the ring the first time(you realized you really didn't do it the first time once you did it the second time) and you visited this morning/yesterday/whatever and she was dead with the ring so you did take it and destroy it and you were returning to do a funeral. Shje says you did show up looked at her without really seeing her, mumbled something incoherent and walked out. Since you never asked before you ask if her last name is Dunwich and she says that was her mothers last name. And after a few thankfully the ring is finally gone bits the quest ends for good with a new note in your inventory saying "There are others. Kill her. Kill HER! You will deliver me to the others and if they accept me you will serve them." incoherent scribbles followed by... "No, No way. I cant kill her, I wont! You have no hold on me... this time I will destroy you." signed by you.
Now that's how you make a quest that's not just go here, kill that. You get creative.
That is very creative and well written. I would like to see a quest like that
@@erict3728 Thanks.
He feared the sole survivor with the page becouse the sole surviver would be able to see every rhing he tried to do to prevent being killed
To be honest, I was very hyped when I heard they were bringing this gun back in F4 from FNV and I was "Oh, this could be interesting!" When I bought it, I immediately began doing the quest itself and I was enthralled by the storytelling. I then wanted to find out more about the mystery surrounding the quest...like what is this book they are talking about? How did the Anti-Material Rifle found its way from the West Coast to Massachusetts? And most importantly, how they found the book? When I completed the quest, I was disappointed because they left alot of plot holes in the quest itself that just didn't really make sense within the context of the Lore and the characters who were shown in the creation itself didn't support that. But the gun itself is very awesome. Now to me is it really worth the 400 credits? Well, here's my advice. I am someone who likes to find out about lore-sophisticated story's in its world but when I played the quest I didn't enjoy the story itself but I did enjoy the Storytelling in it. So...If you are person who is a gunslinger and simply enjoy guns...then yes, it is worth it, but if you are someone who is a lore seeker then you,re gonna be disappointed but hey it's your money... That,s just my advice. I still believe that some of the creators in creation club can make a really good creation and we already seen the evidence that they made like the Tunnel Snakes, Captain Cosmos, etc...But It's just that some moments presented in the creations are "paint by numbers" and for me I would give this creation a 7/10. So if you just want the gun then buy it but if you are here for the quest then well... you decide. Oh, And I love your videos Oxhorn! 😊
Tbh, I did it for the gun. The quest was fun though, despite it's plot holes.
why not just find a free mod and do that. because around 4.00$ for one fucking weapon is the dumbest shit I've heard.
UnDeadBobus There's a mod that fixes that.
UnDeadBobus So the gun is not that great then? The western revolver from Nuka world is much more powerful than the regular .44 wich means that gun is a hell of alot more powerful than this anti material rifle with its .50 caliber rounds... Seriously the revolver from NW is ridiculosly powerful.
Mr. Crispy Fingers asXas fuck up on that. still waiting for the royal armory pack tho, it feels like asXas does a bad job intentionally for the cc
Only thing I learned is how merciless you are to raiders ox
I'm not sure if anyone else has mentioned it, but the story told, is in itself, an Easter egg. If you have ever seen the Jim Carrey movie, "The Number 23", this whole story is a parody of the main plot of that movie. The movie is based on a book found, which is exactly the same as the mirror book in the game.
I actually really like this story, it reminds me of something that would be in Wild Wasteland of Fallout 4 had it. I think Fallout 4 needed more weird quests like this.
I notes in the quest reminds me of the anime " The Future Diaries " in the show each main character getting a text telling them about what would happen next. But each one does it in a slightly different way
But sense fallout doesn't have smartphones or even working house phones I guess they just used a magic book.
CaseyGivans Collins that's what I thought of too
CaseyGivans Collins- Me Too!
I thought of Death Note
Damn witches and their anti-material rifles...
The story/quest reminds me of what Doc Brown (Christopher Lloyd) said in Back To The Future part III, “It means your future hasn’t been written yet. No one’s has. Your future is whatever you make it.”
Those pages and how they are written remind me a lot of Alan Wake and the manuscript pages you find throughout that game. There is even a character in those games named Thomas Zane that Alan Wake just refers to as ‘Zane’. Maybe the quest designer was inspired by that game. Can’t say for sure though.
I was thinking exactly the same
Isn't that the point of having a magical book? What you were reading wasn't the same as what Zane was reading? As in, the words change depending on who is reading the book? Like a mirror... just as the omnipotent narrator relates to the book as "the mirror".
Kinda unrelated, but a sentinels walking cane is the most ironic thing ever. He picked one off of a dog at around 25:00
ACWPS I’ve gotten a cripples/crippling
@@anonanon9535 crip's cane lmao id rename it to "Irony"...
* hits raider with it, it breaks his leg* "Oh whats wrong? Need a cane to lean on while you limp to the nearest stimpak?" * continues to beat him to death with it* 😁
@@anonanon9535 matter of fact now i think of it theres a lesser legendary that is called "kneecappers" and specifically targets the legs, much like the Dart Gun from FO3, you can find a unique bowling ball launching fat man with it in Far Harbor :)
That Quest reminds me of the anime called The Future Diary I'm betting the creator that made this Quest took some inspiration from the anime
I think the book is from skrim, it shows the reader’s destiny.
Actually its not a raised grip on the silencer. It's been knurled. Its a machine operation on the lathe pushing out the metal this does raise it but it leaves the dimond pattern behind for grip. There are other knurling patterns as well but cross hatched diamonds are the most common.
I use parallel knurling wheels for really thin surfaces where cross hatching may not be as neat or effective, but its rare, cross hatch is most common as you said, great for large grip surfaces.
Aussie50 the real question is how did they do it? I always thought silencers were thin metal tubes stuffed with cloth to absorb the sound beacause if it was just metal it would only magnify the sound. So if the tubes have thin walls then the pressure caused by a knurling operation would almost guaranteed deform the tube, no? Thats the big risk with knurling even solid stock. Although i guess it was likely faced, turned down to size' knurled, drilled, bored then parted in that order (oh and threaded to attach to the gun)
One simple answer is that the tube might be thicker than you'd expect. Another explanation is that the knurling would be done close to the threads of the suppressor. The area where the threads has space taken already by the "nut" that threads on, so that area isn't very spacious for the gas expansion anyway. It could be solid material or just much thicker than the rest of the suppressor tube, so knurling it there wouldn't be a problem.
I think they put the bolt on the wrong side of the gun. Not unless it was custom made for a left-handed shooter...???
Amber Martens that's a commin fallout 4 problem
Thanks for this video Oxhorn! I always come here for advice whether to buy a CC creation or not
Answer is: never fucking ever buy from CC
johan13135 unless it's free
Must've been mama Murphy going on an absolutely MASSIVE drug trip
This whole quest concept would make a very great book, one i would definitely buy.