Can I use these old lighted nocks?
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- Опубликовано: 10 авг 2022
- Ever open your crossbow case up and see that you have one Lumenock still kinda lit? Here's how to replace the batteries...
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Al Hayle.
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Had a pass through years ago on a doe she stood there looking at the lighted nock till she tipped over. I think she figured she got stung by a 🐝
I am sold on using the light up nocks, when your eyeballs get a little older they need a little help seeing where the arrow strikes the deer especially in low light, also very handy for finding your arrow in grass or soybean or corn stubble after a shot.
Or even at the target for me 😄
I need to check my Lighted Nocks to see if they still work. Thanks Rich
I try to get a thumbnail thickness gap between the end of the shaft and the contacts. You will be surprised how much both the shaft and nock will expand when the warmup when coming inside from the cold hunting adventure.
And when they expand they light up lol, causing that dead battery 😆
@@Deathbybunjie yup
Good to see you posting something that doesn't require me to break out a calculator. Let us know how you do with the cheap nocks and good luck this season.
Great video Rich!
Learned something new and exciting thank you
I didn’t even know that the batteries could be changed! Wow I threw one them away last year thinking it was bad.☹️
I've been there lol
Only issue I've had with them is my bolts, albeit eventually, seem to start lightly cracking/splitting where the little wires are. It's definitely not immediate, but it seemed to be a regularity for me. That was with an old Horton Legend. Changed my setup entirely a few years ago. No noticeable issues with the new stuff.
Now that’s a video I needed!! My light up knocks get used more in route then after a shot! I didn’t know you could buy replacement batteries, so I’ve just been buying new units!!!🤯🤯🤯
Save them all, reuse, you're all set!
16$ I think I paid for 6 China ones (red) they have little button string hits and a little screwdriver to shut off ,fits right in carbons and they work everytime I can actually say I'm impressed.100yard target shots at dusk and dark with lighted knocks is awsome!!!!
Great bit of information Rich, Excuse me i'm a little slow lol, I always thought theses types of nocks, worked like the plunger style. Bolts i have purchased before were already set up with theses nocks, Thanks good stuff
The string pushes them in to contact the arrow and they turn on...pretty simple really, wish I had thought of it 😄
Definitely good idea changing out batteries. The cost of replacing luminocks is outrageous.
I never have luck doing this, but after watching, I'm going to try again
Good luck!
Always learn something new when I tune in Rich! I've had so much trouble with lighted nocks, both Luminous from Burt Coyote and also from Nocturnal! Even had a string jump last year which missed a deer and knocked the string off the cams! I'm even going to try cheap Chinese this year, just for the heck of it, but hoping to be able to light upside arrows and put them on target this Fall!
Good luck Ron!
China ones work great for me 16$ for 6 lol
@@linescum444 Thanks I have a six pack in my desk drawer now, and it beats $10 per for the big name brands!
With a Scorpyd Death Stalker - Rex says we should' be using Snap-on nocks (that snap on the serve)... I think Lumincks are just capture nocks - not quite as accurate. I see tight groups with the Snap-on nocks. I use Firenocks - they are expensive - but I like the robust electronic circuit/activator - and if they ever go bad Dorge at Firenock will replace it! Target Firenocks stay lit for like 10 sec - and then turn off - so your not wasting any battery life. They have Hunting Nocks circuits that stay on (until you turn them off) and they also have Hunter circuits that flash - to extend battery life. Expensive - but the nock stays tight in the arrow - so it is not like Luminock that requires the nock to slide a bit to get them to turn on and off. To turn off a Firenock you tap it on a hard surface and they turn off - they are awesome! They also have an internal/extreme stop insert that secures the battery in place. The Nocks from Firenock that are for the Scorpyd DS are "U-style" nocks.
I did some videos on Firenocks last year. They're not for me. This is a good video topic!
Where is Genevieve…your camera helper, right hand gal? Did she start her taxidermy school yet?
Sure enjoy your videos. I got my bow last Oct. so this will be my first yr hunting with it. Have a good season y’all.
She is done with the apprenticeship (was all this past year) and has her own studio! She's also working full time and has her hands full but will join me now and then!
@@Deathbybunjie That’s cool. I know your proud of her!
Off subject but, have you saw the new Tactacam 6.0?
Just wondering if it’s any better than the other one. Thanks
Yeah I saw it came out has a screen, other than that same specs I think?
Old lighted nocks 💯. I generally like to have my hunting bolts installed and ready to go. However we are all told practice what you hunt with. So make a bolt with an exact setup that you shoot. I call these replicas. They are exact weight, exact broadhed tuned and exact nocked. Why waste batter and sharpness on a bolt of its not necessary. Keep in mind if you do this and you find that when you put different vanes in the rail you get different points of impact you will have to shoot your actual hunting setup at least once each to spine tune the bolts.
But the old dim nocks doesnt change the grain weight if they stop working but the more you target shoot the more you dull your blades. So replica arrows/ bolts are the best.
Why do you call them arrows though.
I shoot the same ones I hunt with all the time. That's the only way to really know. Sharpness? I use mechanicals to hunt and practice points to practice. Batteries? Easy to replace, and if you don't shoot them in the backyard, how do you know the battery needs help? And how do you see where the arrow hit? LOL I've gotten so I will not shoot without a lighted nock, plain and simple. It'd be like watching the TV with the sound off. 🤣
@@Deathbybunjie they really far too expensive here. Even with amazon most of the time deliver fees get you. I do see the appeal to them. I guess most people do that lol, i like to use the broadheads on targets too. This way i don’t have to touch speed rings or elevations ect.
Rich did you do the arrow accuracy test that tyree appleberry did
What test is that?
Hey Rich, great video as always. I have something I've been thinking about and I'd like to share it. So I know one reason people use mechanical broadheads is for better shot accuracy versus fixed blade. Now I kinda guessed that was because there is less drag from the blades being hidden, but as you have mentioned in your videos the cutting diameter of a non opened mechanical broadhead is the same as many fixed bladed ones. So I'm curious if a 3 fixed blade and 3 blade mechanical broadhead with the same cutting diameter unopened as the fixed blade, are they very similar in performance, or is there a significant difference? I know the mechanical broadhead will open up on impact, but it is just something that I've been thinking about in terms of their accuracy
The Swhacker has the 1" cut when closed, the other 3 blade types are much more compact. The 3 blade mechanical is not as big as a 3 blade fixed when closed. You'd have to test them, but in my experience with fixed blades years ago, the 3 blade flew all over the place.
The accuracy challenges associated with fixed blade broadheads have to do with Archers paradox and the arrow leaving the bow flexed, causing the surface area of one blade to catch more air than another. Mechanicals fly better because they have far less surface area to cause that effect.
@@tythomps Oh ok, it's not the entire flight path that is causing inaccuracy. So it's when the arrow is flexing upon being shot initially causing the blades to catch air incorrectly for a brief moment which is in turn causing the inaccuracy?
@@keel3r433 yes that is the vast majority of it. Which is why really well tuned vertical bows can shoot fixed blades with nearly the same accuracy as field tips.
Look up some info on the Swat series of crossbows that virtually eliminate Archers Paradox with their enclosed barrel. They shoot fixed heads better than most crossbows because of it.
@@tythomps Awesome, I'll definitely look into that! Thanks for the info
Where do you get your spare/extra batteries from? Thanks
The ones in blue tape were harvested from old nocks that I tossed due to wear and tear. The package of new batteries was just off Amazon. 👌
Any idea on where to get the O rings? Lumenock does not supply them with the battery or sell them separately. Went to a few hardware stores without success. They have ones that small but not that thick. I emailed Lumenock several times asking about it but have not gotten a response from them. Maybe a FOB can help.
Man thats a good question...I am lucky, because I saved a lot of old Lumenoks and have these on hand...I didn't even know I'd need them lol. I'll pink this comment and see if we get responses. I hope all good with you, Meat & Greeter!
Had a hard time finding small orings I found them at bondys hydraulic ,mom and pop hydraulic cylinder repair shop .
@@linescum444 Do you happen to know the size or part ?
@@Deathbybunjie Thanks for the help. Doing great but my back hurts from lifting the new book, or should I say tome. I think I'll save it to read during the season. Good luck to the both of you keeping those Bradford county deer under control.
@@Navigtor nope they had small bag with some ,nothing on bag (years ago)
Rich and crew … off topic question If that’s ok? I have a new crossbow and one thing I have noticed is with the bolts loaded, nocks correctly indexed, multiple bolts. I get a slight rise to the end of the shaft and field point off the front end of the rail. I just replaced my retainer spring with a brand new one and adjusted it as perfectly as possible with the set screw that adjusts the tightness. Bolts load easily and retain well in the vertical down position. Is this normal? I had to take my scope off to make the adjustments but put it back on the same rail slot and tighted back down a 1 shot due to rain was maybe 1/2 inch right at 20. Before I replaced the R spring it was sort of all over the place. I’m just trying to figure out “normal” ? I did contact the manufacturer about this. I never checked this 2 weeks ago when shooting it lights out to 30. Any constructive feedback? Arrows spin very true, nocks are indexed properly, retainer spring is adjusted I think perfectly or very close based on loading a bolt and vertical hold test. Thanks if y’all have any insight normal or not.
What did manufacturer say?
@@Deathbybunjie I’m waiting for a response after hours now. I shot about 10 more times. I think I have a flyer arrow that is messing me up so got that out of the mix for now sure does spin true though. With the 2 arrow, field point, broad head testing all look pretty close at 20. Trying to not get frustrated. Part of the reason switching from compound bow was the frustration every late summer trying to get dialed in. I will let you know what they come back with.
@@FDRGREG I hear that...that's frustrating...ihave some ideas but let me hear what they say first. I don't wanna send you the wrong way
@@Deathbybunjie thanks Rich. We will figure something out. I’m very hesitant to blame the bow at this point even though it’s pretty low cost. I may or may not have learned a lesson BUT. Let’s see what they say first. Man your quick responses … very much appreciated. I’m going on a hunt of a lifetime with this or something in November. Did I sell myself short? We will see what happens.
So RM/Feradyne CS sent my issue to a bow technician. They replied to check the retainer spring and the ADF. I checked all of that and here is my reply …. I checked all of that and reset the arrow retainer spring. Anti dry fire moves freely up and down. The lift is very slight but happens when you seat the moon nock fully into the trigger ADF and string. If I move the arrow forward off the assembly an 1/8 to 1/16th there is no lift. It’s like where the nock mates with the string the string is a little low and it pushes down slightly on the nock end of the arrow to line the moon nock groove in line with the string. I don’t know how exact this mating up should normally be. Like if you looked at the nock groove on a horizontal plane with the string center serving captured and fully cocked, the string center is a little lower than the nock groove. When you push the arrow fully against the string, the nock has to flex down slightly to mate with the nock groove horizontally with the string.
With all the test and checks the lift seems less now but it’s still just not right. I’m concerned it will not be as accurate as it should be especially if it gets worse over time. If you benchmark a couple of bows and they all are like this then I guess I’ll have to accept that as the quality to expect from a RM crossbow but I’m hoping to get it or a replacement completely flat and consistent shot to shot. This is my first crossbow but I have been shooting and hunting with compound bows since 1988. I also have been a field service technician on industrial printers since 1993 and I work on printers and all the fine tuning details daily. I’m willing to try anything else and appreciate everyone’s help there at RM/Feradyne.
I’m on a hunt of a lifetime in Illinois in November and chose this bow not because of price but the great reviews and value to price ratio. I just want a reliable and accurate meat and potatos crossbow which I believe this still potentially is. Let me know how we should proceed. Thanks again for all the help with this.
Probably too much information but I’m thinking this is possibly within tolerance and I should have bought a higher priced bow. My confidence is a little shaken now. I will see what they respond with in the next day or so. Live and learn. Maybe I’m being too picky?
First 3 days in a row lol
You got some kind of secret LOL 😆
@@Deathbybunjie
I been lucky lol