I could redrill the brakes to fit 5x4, but I'd still have tires for 5x4.5. I might as well just have them both on the spacer and run longer studs. I had considered reusing the leafs diff as a center diff, but I hadn't considered using a different car's fwd transmission. That is a good idea. I'll look what I can get in my area. However, I would still have to find an lsd that can replace the open diff inside the other car's fwd transmission, because of the open diff/4wd issues I talked about. I suppose if I found a fwd manual transmission that might work if I can find the correct aftermarket parts. Otherwise, I'd have to deal with the CAN protocol of changing gears, which is possible. I just don't want to get too over my head yet haha
Oh yeah, I just remembered why I didn't go the transmission route. Because the motor was never designed for a flywheel, getting a clutch to work on this would be an absolute pain. I'd have to go clutch-less, which has its own set of issues. I did consider buying a blown motorcycle engine and salvaging the transmission from that since the clutch is a separate chamber technically and would be a lot easier to deal with. But even if I did that, I'd still have to deal with a center diff again. A lot of trade offs between ideas. I'll make sure to make a note of all them to compare.
Did you look into ATV/UTV differentials and transfer case? I wonder if they would be feasible for an application like this, probably the perfect size but not sure if they’ll be able to hold the weight & power.
I did, so much so I decided to do a whole project around one. Currently on this channel I'm working on 2 projects concurrently. This one called "Visceral" and the other one "Venture". Venture is an atv with a motorcycle engine swapped in it. Another video will be released on it this coming Monday. After reading a lot about the load capabilities of these atv parts, I was worried about it standing up to the torque. Since in the world of atvs a lot are 2 stroke the rpm wasn't the issue. But yes, it was considered, because they are small and light. I just didn't want to build the whole frame around parts that I was unsure of holding up
Actually that was the original plan. Have the motor put in sideways with the axles going to the diff inputs. However, since the leaf has a built in 8.3 to 1 and the diffs being 4.3, that would be a 35.7 to 1 ratio which is extremely slow considering overall it should be about 8.3. So yes I did consider that. Additionally, theres the issue that the leaf diff is open. Meaning either if the front or rear slip then you lose power on the opposite side. I'd have to weld the leaf diff, essentially making it 4wd and as explained thats an issue with steering. But yes, great question, it has been considered
Yep, with both front and rear diffs upright they will move the car in the same direction, even though one is turned around. If for some reason it didn't, turning a diff upside-down would swap its direction. In case the motor is spinning the wrong way, that can be changed in software to spin the other way instead
I think you said front/rear diffs are from a BRZ. If so, they're Torsen T2 diffs. They don't have clutches. How do they work? I don't fully understand, I can only assume it's black magic.
You know what, I've never questioned if they were clutch based. I just assumed they were after finding out there were not VLSD. After reading up on torsen style diffs, your absolutely right on them being black magic. That's cool to find out!
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just make it all square /paralell , starting out with rectangle of welded box frame might help get things started
Yep sounds like a good idea for before the axles get shortened
Man, just make it do what it do! 😂
Redrill the brake disks. Use a fwd transmision as a centrediff, the motor will then be longitudal, and you have a choice of gear rayios.
I could redrill the brakes to fit 5x4, but I'd still have tires for 5x4.5. I might as well just have them both on the spacer and run longer studs. I had considered reusing the leafs diff as a center diff, but I hadn't considered using a different car's fwd transmission. That is a good idea. I'll look what I can get in my area. However, I would still have to find an lsd that can replace the open diff inside the other car's fwd transmission, because of the open diff/4wd issues I talked about. I suppose if I found a fwd manual transmission that might work if I can find the correct aftermarket parts. Otherwise, I'd have to deal with the CAN protocol of changing gears, which is possible. I just don't want to get too over my head yet haha
Oh yeah, I just remembered why I didn't go the transmission route. Because the motor was never designed for a flywheel, getting a clutch to work on this would be an absolute pain. I'd have to go clutch-less, which has its own set of issues. I did consider buying a blown motorcycle engine and salvaging the transmission from that since the clutch is a separate chamber technically and would be a lot easier to deal with. But even if I did that, I'd still have to deal with a center diff again. A lot of trade offs between ideas. I'll make sure to make a note of all them to compare.
Did you look into ATV/UTV differentials and transfer case? I wonder if they would be feasible for an application like this, probably the perfect size but not sure if they’ll be able to hold the weight & power.
I did, so much so I decided to do a whole project around one. Currently on this channel I'm working on 2 projects concurrently. This one called "Visceral" and the other one "Venture". Venture is an atv with a motorcycle engine swapped in it. Another video will be released on it this coming Monday. After reading a lot about the load capabilities of these atv parts, I was worried about it standing up to the torque. Since in the world of atvs a lot are 2 stroke the rpm wasn't the issue. But yes, it was considered, because they are small and light. I just didn't want to build the whole frame around parts that I was unsure of holding up
have you considered using the original nissan leaf differential for the center differential?
Actually that was the original plan. Have the motor put in sideways with the axles going to the diff inputs. However, since the leaf has a built in 8.3 to 1 and the diffs being 4.3, that would be a 35.7 to 1 ratio which is extremely slow considering overall it should be about 8.3. So yes I did consider that. Additionally, theres the issue that the leaf diff is open. Meaning either if the front or rear slip then you lose power on the opposite side. I'd have to weld the leaf diff, essentially making it 4wd and as explained thats an issue with steering. But yes, great question, it has been considered
Verify that everything will rotate in the proper direction as desired before committing to anything.
Yep, with both front and rear diffs upright they will move the car in the same direction, even though one is turned around. If for some reason it didn't, turning a diff upside-down would swap its direction. In case the motor is spinning the wrong way, that can be changed in software to spin the other way instead
@@mechanceism I was wondering if turning the diff over would change its direction of rotation.
I think you said front/rear diffs are from a BRZ. If so, they're Torsen T2 diffs. They don't have clutches. How do they work? I don't fully understand, I can only assume it's black magic.
You know what, I've never questioned if they were clutch based. I just assumed they were after finding out there were not VLSD. After reading up on torsen style diffs, your absolutely right on them being black magic. That's cool to find out!
@@mechanceism Just a heads up, the viscous in the G35 is a sealed unit. People say it has a tendency randomly unlock when run hot
@Wigwhom86 Wow that's quite an odd flaw. I didn't know that. Thanks for the heads up!