108s in 182 here, for a free ride biased twin tip they can rally down a groomed run as long as it’s not icy and charge through crud. Glad I didn’t get an M-Pro 90.
It is a good ski if you like to alter your application of technique. It handles groomers and hard pack extremely well. Power in the tail. Easy edge set. Your comments are similar to my impressions. It is a fun ski to have. Not for everyone. 😊
I was helping a friend research skis that would be good at carving and park skiing (though only 5-10% of the time spent in the park), and these were at least on the long list of skis to look into, though the M Free 90 seemed more appropriate. I guess it's fair to say these won't be moving to the short list. The best fit so far based on demos this season seems to be the Nordica Unleashed 98.
It would be intriguing to gain your insights on the evolution of skis in recent decades. As I re-enter the skiing world after using first-generation shaped skis, a representative at REI informed me that skiing techniques have undergone significant changes since the beginning of the century. Your expertise in this area would be greatly appreciated.
Hi Elliott, this is quite off-topic but is there any interest in reviewing some of the more popular all-mountain twin tips? I understand that isn't necessarily your type of ski, I'm just curious how you would compare them to other popular models. I ski 80% on piste (European alps) and while not a freestyle skier, I like going switch, taking side hits and a spin or the other. I'd be curious what you would recommend (if any) among the more well-rounded twin tips. Personally I'm looking for a good deal of the Black Crows Captis, but there isn't enough of a rent market for twin tips so it's hard to test a range of them.
I bought a pair of Rossignol Black Ops 92 for shit conditions and I love them more than I expected. I think all mountain twin tip are a good option for more skiers than people think. Today's twin tips are good for much more than park ski.
I didn't find a lot of info about this ski, so although I'm not among those who asked for it, I'm glad you did it. I'm still skiing Legend Sultan 85s from 2011 which are nearing the end of their useful life. At the time it was advertised as a rocker-camber-rocker ski, but it looked much like a traditionally cambered ski even then and even more so today. So it's kind of funny (although I do understand where you're coming from) to see such an aggressively rockered ski being described as old-fashioned. Do you think you will have a chance to try Solomon Stance? I'm curious how it compares to your Mavericks or the Ranger 90s. Also, do you have any written content for those of us who prefer to digest information that way? Cheers!
Totally agree with you on this, I have a pair and as you stated they work well in powder but that’s about it, they are not stable at high speeds on the groomers. I have had them for a couple seasons now and ended up buying a pair of K2 Mindbenders now my Dynastar are collecting dust. So if anyone is interested in a pair I will let them go for cheap otherwise they will be at the swap this year. Good review as always.
I know it might not be your cup of tea but It’d be really interesting to see what you think of the Volkl revolt 104. It’s pretty powder/park focused but I personally love to carve on it too so would love to hear your opinion
A few thought in response. I own this ski, and I love it. But it definitely took me about 5 days on it to figure it out. Firstly, I think if you are looking for it to be a “carver” it’s not that. It’s a narrow waist directional 50/50 all mountain ski. It will hook up and carve, but it’s not going to just get on edge and do the work for you. This ski requires A LOT of input from the skier. I dare say you have to ski it “hard” to get it to light up. Secondly, it is rock solid. I think we need to define “chatter” here. Yes, at speed on a groomer the tips will flap, but that’s because as you note, they are these huge duck bill honking things out front. And they do move. But from the snow contact point upfront all the way to the back they are planted in the snow thanks to the construction. When I think of “chatter” to me, that means the ski itself is bouncing around a bit and I don’t get that at all with this ski on edge at high speed. Finally, I totally agree with your off piste assessment. I fine because of the tip it really skis a bit wider than the 90 mm waist in variable and powder conditions.
Have to respectfully disagree on a few points. I owned these for 3 seasons. I skied them in ny amd vt at over 50mph. Never found them to be chattery. The tip does move a bit, but it wasn't affecting my confidence at all. The hybrid core is a something other manufacturers are just starting to use now. They're actually a bit ahead of their time. Not long in the tooth... Turn shapes are endless. Soft snow performance is very good for a 90mm with metal. It probably doesn't appeal to you because your style doesn't jive with it. (You're not a playful skier, much more businees like. Lol) Its nothing like a Kendo, i skied both. Could see why you didn't like it
long in the tooth? --- only 1 of my current skis is younger than 2013... I still use bandits as east coast all mtn skis.on the rare occasions that I ski out here...
A Big thanks to YOU the viewer for making this demo possible! Cheers
I love the M Frees. gotta give them a try. especially the 108's in 192 (trust)
I second this emotion..... loved the mfree 99. But i'm not sure it's elliott's style...😅
I love my M-Free 108s (I have them in 182 though). They're so fun and capable and just come to life in softer snow.
Also loving my m-free 99s, great all around ski that absolutely blasts through the fresh stuff.
108s in 182 here, for a free ride biased twin tip they can rally down a groomed run as long as it’s not icy and charge through crud. Glad I didn’t get an M-Pro 90.
I will see if I can get a pair for next year when we have powder again.
It is a good ski if you like to alter your application of technique. It handles groomers and hard pack extremely well. Power in the tail. Easy edge set. Your comments are similar to my impressions. It is a fun ski to have. Not for everyone. 😊
If you get a chance to demo the free 108 very interested in that and how it compares to Qst 106..
Try the MFree 108.
I was helping a friend research skis that would be good at carving and park skiing (though only 5-10% of the time spent in the park), and these were at least on the long list of skis to look into, though the M Free 90 seemed more appropriate. I guess it's fair to say these won't be moving to the short list. The best fit so far based on demos this season seems to be the Nordica Unleashed 98.
It would be intriguing to gain your insights on the evolution of skis in recent decades. As I re-enter the skiing world after using first-generation shaped skis, a representative at REI informed me that skiing techniques have undergone significant changes since the beginning of the century. Your expertise in this area would be greatly appreciated.
Great Idea!
Hi Elliott, this is quite off-topic but is there any interest in reviewing some of the more popular all-mountain twin tips? I understand that isn't necessarily your type of ski, I'm just curious how you would compare them to other popular models. I ski 80% on piste (European alps) and while not a freestyle skier, I like going switch, taking side hits and a spin or the other. I'd be curious what you would recommend (if any) among the more well-rounded twin tips. Personally I'm looking for a good deal of the Black Crows Captis, but there isn't enough of a rent market for twin tips so it's hard to test a range of them.
I bought a pair of Rossignol Black Ops 92 for shit conditions and I love them more than I expected. I think all mountain twin tip are a good option for more skiers than people think. Today's twin tips are good for much more than park ski.
I didn't find a lot of info about this ski, so although I'm not among those who asked for it, I'm glad you did it. I'm still skiing Legend Sultan 85s from 2011 which are nearing the end of their useful life. At the time it was advertised as a rocker-camber-rocker ski, but it looked much like a traditionally cambered ski even then and even more so today. So it's kind of funny (although I do understand where you're coming from) to see such an aggressively rockered ski being described as old-fashioned.
Do you think you will have a chance to try Solomon Stance? I'm curious how it compares to your Mavericks or the Ranger 90s.
Also, do you have any written content for those of us who prefer to digest information that way?
Cheers!
He should definitely try the stance series. 90 or 96
yes would love to see the stance on here as well
Volkl blaze or new rustler 9/10 would be nice to see!
He did the new Rustler 10 a month or so ago! 🙂
Totally agree with you on this, I have a pair and as you stated they work well in powder but that’s about it, they are not stable at high speeds on the groomers. I have had them for a couple seasons now and ended up buying a pair of K2 Mindbenders now my Dynastar are collecting dust. So if anyone is interested in a pair I will let them go for cheap otherwise they will be at the swap this year. Good review as always.
I know it might not be your cup of tea but It’d be really interesting to see what you think of the Volkl revolt 104.
It’s pretty powder/park focused but I personally love to carve on it too so would love to hear your opinion
A few thought in response. I own this ski, and I love it. But it definitely took me about 5 days on it to figure it out. Firstly, I think if you are looking for it to be a “carver” it’s not that. It’s a narrow waist directional 50/50 all mountain ski. It will hook up and carve, but it’s not going to just get on edge and do the work for you. This ski requires A LOT of input from the skier. I dare say you have to ski it “hard” to get it to light up.
Secondly, it is rock solid. I think we need to define “chatter” here. Yes, at speed on a groomer the tips will flap, but that’s because as you note, they are these huge duck bill honking things out front. And they do move. But from the snow contact point upfront all the way to the back they are planted in the snow thanks to the construction. When I think of “chatter” to me, that means the ski itself is bouncing around a bit and I don’t get that at all with this ski on edge at high speed.
Finally, I totally agree with your off piste assessment. I fine because of the tip it really skis a bit wider than the 90 mm waist in variable and powder conditions.
Have to respectfully disagree on a few points. I owned these for 3 seasons. I skied them in ny amd vt at over 50mph. Never found them to be chattery. The tip does move a bit, but it wasn't affecting my confidence at all. The hybrid core is a something other manufacturers are just starting to use now. They're actually a bit ahead of their time. Not long in the tooth...
Turn shapes are endless. Soft snow performance is very good for a 90mm with metal.
It probably doesn't appeal to you because your style doesn't jive with it. (You're not a playful skier, much more businees like. Lol)
Its nothing like a Kendo, i skied both. Could see why you didn't like it
could you please review the rossignol hero master lt's?
From what I hear you say that ski might be better at the 100 mm waist width.. Maybe it is not meant for carving..
Totally agree
long in the tooth? --- only 1 of my current skis is younger than 2013... I still use bandits as east coast all mtn skis.on the rare occasions that I ski out here...
How tall are you for reference with the size ski you are on just curiosu
He has mentioned in previous vids that he is 185 cm. tall.
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More traditional type of ski.
Those binding are very heavy . They kill the performance of any ski.
Fan of the channel. Not a fan of dubstep chipmunks. There's gotta be a better royalty free genre.
You took the words right out of my keyboard. I'm also a big Elliot fan, but the chipmunks are driving me crazy... 😱
A 90mm ski that performs better in powder than on piste… definitely the ski strategy from 15 years ago ⛷️
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