Finally we met Solitär, one of my favorite demon! Also I'm impressed you remember Omniscient Schlacht. He addressing Frieren directly is one of the goosebumps-inducing moments in this manga.
@@theblekedet6467I'm not very big into 40k either (I played Fantasy in Highschool and GW literally killed my best friends faction when they ended that setting), but I have enjoyed several instances of fan art crossovers of Warhammer and Frieren. The Frieren/Doom art is better tho.
My favorite, imo the best demon in the series so far, she kinda reminds me of the Joker, she never outwardly shows aggression, in fact she's smiling most of the time, shes very unsettling the more you think about her.
19:25 in this moment, when Schlacht is saying "demons will be fighting for their survival in a thousand years from now", he's not talking about the current timeline, but rather FAR into the future, because remember, in this flashback they were just about to face and kill the Hero of the South, and when Frieren met him, he said to her "one year from now, I'll lose my life at the hands of Schlacht the omniscient" and he also said "soon, a young hero will visit you" talking about Himmel, which means Schlacht flashback in Macht's memories takes place around the same time the Hero Party gets formed, which happened around 90 years ago from current timeline. And that's the scary thing about it all, because if Schlacht was able to see that far into the future, everything that has happened so far were all calculated as part of his mastermind plan for demons survival... And over 900 years from now, they'll come to fight for it.
Crazy how all these chapters are so compelling back to back to back... It just doesnt stop. We finally meet my favorite demon Solitar. The comparison of demons and humans to whales and fish just makes so much sense. Schlatt talking to the camera addressing Frieren gave me goosebumps. And Gluck... really the perfect match for Macht. This arc is too good
The story of Macht and Gluck turns the "make a deal with devil" trope upside down. Both are fascinating fleshed out characters. The story of ch 90 could be a hundred chapter story arc in another manga. Ch 89 twisted my brain. First was the use of foresight to talk to Frieren directly, but then the little reveal about the Demon King. What was the Demon King? The most powerful demon, the only one perceptive enough to see Frieren's suppressed mana and the one who taught a reclusive researcher about the idea of convergent evolution? He is truly an enigma. And the full package of endgames bosses. All stats maxed out.
@@theblekedet6467I don't think so. The only evidence is that he had a theory of evolution... And he could have come up with that himself, considering how old he was he might have even been able to directly observe some of it.
I think I slightly prefer the Goddess Monument arc. Seeing the growth of particular characters in that was very satisfying. Please no spoilers about it tho!
This was a great reaction - your enthusiasm for these chapters is contagious. So many great moments and personally I think the way the narrative is structured here is super clever and fun. Reading a Demon's memories but the Demon who sees the future knew this would happen so he used powers to induce amnesia on his Demon ally beforehand - eat your heart out Togashi! :D
19:41 well, Macht DID know about her name and we already know this, when he asks Denken who she is and Denken says she's Frieren, Macht comments that Denken always loved to hear the adventures of the party of heroes. So he knew the "name" Frieren, but he didn't know who the elf standing in front of him was. Frieren herself is the one who says that he forgot about her (chapter 86, page 11) and you can clearly see there Macht is a little confused.
Hey you finally here, Macht and Gluck dynamic is one of the hightlights of the arc. There is a small detail on the bracelet while you are having different theroies, remember how they found out the magic is still working? Yea the wording has the obvious loophole, but thats also the testament Macht needed, if he cant harm the city? Then he knows he successed.
Solitar is my favorite demon. She’s so close to being normal even her design is just the tiniest two horns, but she’s not. She’s the realist against Macht idealism. She’s right as well. Macht clearly doesn’t succeed in feeling malice.
The monstrous inhumanity of these two learning about humanity and how it applies, one hand we have Macht who does seem curious but Soltar just sends the brain signal to run the hell away from.
Solitar studies humanity the way a scientist might study ants. The type of scientist who would pull the legs off an ant, one at a time, to see how many you have to pull before the ant's running speed slows down.
The Convergent Evolution bit is to draw a parallel with Humans and Deamons. There's also a question about how the DK knew evolutionary theory. Was Truck-Kun involved? Personally I think not. It seems more likely that the DK was ancient and intelligent enough to have learned it, possibly by watching it happen.
That's kind of my guess too. Natural selection and such is like, something that can be put together with enough observation. Alfred Russel Wallace came to basically the same theory as Darwin in the same time in a similar situation (round-the-naturalist trip). They did have some different views (for example, Darwin thought that humans could be explained entirely through just natural seleciton, Wallace thought more had to be there), but it was still there. And in the 700s there was an Arabian guy who had a very primitive version. So yeah, the Demon King just kind of figuring it out, especially with like you said, able tos ee some of it happening in "real time" more easily, makes sense. The use of convergent evoltuion is probalby just so us modern readers can understand it quicker.
@@blaqueup indeed. It also possibly contrasts with Serie, who is possibly even more ancient and seems to have learned little beyond just magic. Of course her intuition being so strong may be her massive weight of experience, it just isn't as simply framed as Solitare or the DK references are.
@@ObiwanNekody Kind of a funny bit with that, this is a bit why I think Frieren keeps going for chests even if they're mimics. If it is 1/100, it'll come up every once and awhile and she's probably rolled the dice enough times to feel it's worth the try. (This is stupid, but this is also Frieren here.)
@@blaqueup mhmm. Frieren has definitely rolled that Gatcha enough to get some wins. Honestly the cost is just a bad hair day, which is hardly anything for her.
Too bad my comment on last video was too late. Though I doubt it would have made understanding easier... We finally meet the most awesome Solitär. One of my favorite character ever.
24:50 yes, that seems to be the case. A few readings ago I marked a spot for undeclared reasons, and it's because what you said then was very close to this.
Totally understable to read one more. In this flashback over chapters to get a good stop point is hard. 19:41 "So Macht totally knew what her name was at least!" - Well no. Everything about the fight against HotS and this conversation leading up to it is erased by Grausam, or in other words everything that hints at "Frieren" is memory to much, what Edel would have read. So to speak Macht has zero clue about Frieren. You made it to my favorite female demon, if one can say so. Well Glück. I hope the tong twister is not to tiresome. Wahrheit pronunciation is both thumbs up. Stay for Solitair with what you had at 2:02 what you said it is not, but it is :) - close enough is pronouncing it like the word at the end "air". Even closer is the beginning of the word "terrace" just used as the ending from "Soli-ter", which uses the loneword terra for earth from Latin and is in German and English super duper close in pronunciation .
The scariest part of the manga, the entire manga, is that Schlacht has that brief aside to Frieren. This strongly suggests that everything that has happened is within his expectations for the future he wished to come to be. Of course maybe he just says that to everyone before they get memory wiped, just in case because Frieren is that scary to him... I want to say more but I can't remember if you have read something yet so I'm not going to at this time.
The interesting thing is that the Hero of the South has the same power as Schlacht, and they are said to be equals. So every future Schlacht as seen, the Hero of the South has also seen, and every act or manipulation Schlacht has done to try to push the future in a certain way, the Hero of the South has also seen, and decided "that's ok, I can allow that." And it's all supposed to come to a head in some event 1000 years in the future that will determine whether demonkind will survive or be exterminated. Schlacht has bent all his efforts, up to the sacrifice of his own life, to ensure that demons do survive (or so he says). But what did the Hero of the South see? What has he done, if anything, to push the future in a direction HE wants, and if he did, what direction is that? Who between them, in the end, has seen further?
@@adamwu4565 it's problematic because while their powers are said and seen as equal, Schlacht references timelines further along than the Hero of the South, so he maybe made better use of that power. Their goals also may not have been directly in opposition... We will have to see.
Oh. Oh my. My money is on the Hero of the South being a golden statue hidden somewhere. 4th time I have been throught this bit and just realized that now.
I would guess not. I would imagine Macht acts as area denial that HotS would have to completely avoid. Using his foresight, he could easily avoid him, but he’d be pressured into moving into one place.
@@andrewli6606it's more because of why it was so important that Frieren didn't get to see the fight... The sages and their capabilities are known to her at this time, so there has to be some other aspect of the fight that would be problematic for her to have knowledge of. The post fight condition of those who took part in the fight seems to be the most likely motivation. It's also possible that he foresaw the anime and wanted to save on budget by not having the Hero of the South's last battle be animated.
@@ObiwanNekody It seems unlikely it would be a budgetary reason; it's almost certainly a story-related reason. I mean... think of it this way. Let's assume Hero of the South is a golden statue. Frieren finds him and is able to dispel the curse. Now we have a hero stronger than Serie and Stark. He's a storybreaking power. His foresight is way too powerful. It would make more sense that Schlact and Hero of the South killed each other to get rid of each others' foresight. I could come up with another reason. Perhaps Schlact used a power taught by the Demon King or something that would be very bad to have Frieren witness in the future.
@@andrewli6606 the budget reference was a joke... Frieren (the anime/manga) doesn't have a level of insecurity with having it's viewpoint characters needing to be the most powerful, and is very capable of telling a great story for them even with someone as powerful as the Hero of the South in play, if he could be revived from being a golden statue.
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Finally we met Solitär, one of my favorite demon! Also I'm impressed you remember Omniscient Schlacht. He addressing Frieren directly is one of the goosebumps-inducing moments in this manga.
@@theblekedet6467 Omnissiah... Someone has 40k on their mind and in their autocorrect. 😊
Omniscient Schlacht is what you meant, slightly different.
@@ObiwanNekody woops, and I don't even following 40k that closely 😂
@@theblekedet6467I'm not very big into 40k either (I played Fantasy in Highschool and GW literally killed my best friends faction when they ended that setting), but I have enjoyed several instances of fan art crossovers of Warhammer and Frieren. The Frieren/Doom art is better tho.
Oh, also, his addressing Frieren in the memory is indeed terrifying. Or silly, if you think he does that before every mind wipe, just in case...
My favorite, imo the best demon in the series so far, she kinda reminds me of the Joker, she never outwardly shows aggression, in fact she's smiling most of the time, shes very unsettling the more you think about her.
19:25 in this moment, when Schlacht is saying "demons will be fighting for their survival in a thousand years from now", he's not talking about the current timeline, but rather FAR into the future, because remember, in this flashback they were just about to face and kill the Hero of the South, and when Frieren met him, he said to her "one year from now, I'll lose my life at the hands of Schlacht the omniscient" and he also said "soon, a young hero will visit you" talking about Himmel, which means Schlacht flashback in Macht's memories takes place around the same time the Hero Party gets formed, which happened around 90 years ago from current timeline. And that's the scary thing about it all, because if Schlacht was able to see that far into the future, everything that has happened so far were all calculated as part of his mastermind plan for demons survival... And over 900 years from now, they'll come to fight for it.
Crazy how all these chapters are so compelling back to back to back... It just doesnt stop.
We finally meet my favorite demon Solitar. The comparison of demons and humans to whales and fish just makes so much sense.
Schlatt talking to the camera addressing Frieren gave me goosebumps.
And Gluck... really the perfect match for Macht. This arc is too good
Also Glück my man, he passed a speech check against one of the most powerful demons. Truly one of the politicians of all time. 😂
The story of Macht and Gluck turns the "make a deal with devil" trope upside down. Both are fascinating fleshed out characters. The story of ch 90 could be a hundred chapter story arc in another manga.
Ch 89 twisted my brain.
First was the use of foresight to talk to Frieren directly, but then the little reveal about the Demon King.
What was the Demon King? The most powerful demon, the only one perceptive enough to see Frieren's suppressed mana and the one who taught a reclusive researcher about the idea of convergent evolution?
He is truly an enigma. And the full package of endgames bosses. All stats maxed out.
How, exactly, did I not think about how this is a refresh of that trope until reading your comment?
@@ObiwanNekody That is why it is so freaking good.
I have a wacky theory that the Demon King is a person Isekai'd from our world 😂
@@theblekedet6467I don't think so. The only evidence is that he had a theory of evolution... And he could have come up with that himself, considering how old he was he might have even been able to directly observe some of it.
Best Arc of Frieren no doubt, really can't wait for this arc in season 2
I think I slightly prefer the Goddess Monument arc. Seeing the growth of particular characters in that was very satisfying.
Please no spoilers about it tho!
This was a great reaction - your enthusiasm for these chapters is contagious. So many great moments and personally I think the way the narrative is structured here is super clever and fun. Reading a Demon's memories but the Demon who sees the future knew this would happen so he used powers to induce amnesia on his Demon ally beforehand - eat your heart out Togashi! :D
19:41 well, Macht DID know about her name and we already know this, when he asks Denken who she is and Denken says she's Frieren, Macht comments that Denken always loved to hear the adventures of the party of heroes. So he knew the "name" Frieren, but he didn't know who the elf standing in front of him was. Frieren herself is the one who says that he forgot about her (chapter 86, page 11) and you can clearly see there Macht is a little confused.
Hey you finally here, Macht and Gluck dynamic is one of the hightlights of the arc.
There is a small detail on the bracelet while you are having different theroies, remember how they found out the magic is still working? Yea the wording has the obvious loophole, but thats also the testament Macht needed, if he cant harm the city? Then he knows he successed.
Solitar is my favorite demon. She’s so close to being normal even her design is just the tiniest two horns, but she’s not. She’s the realist against Macht idealism. She’s right as well. Macht clearly doesn’t succeed in feeling malice.
omg we have 3 chapters this week again. Lindsay feeds us well.
Gluck really talked no jutsu Macht into becoming his servent on the verge of death lol 😂 a true politician
Yesss the introduction of Solitär!!
Seriously awesome video. I love reading along with you. How have you been enjoying this arc so far?
YES!! it’s been soooo good it’s been blowing my mind
The monstrous inhumanity of these two learning about humanity and how it applies, one hand we have Macht who does seem curious but Soltar just sends the brain signal to run the hell away from.
Solitar studies humanity the way a scientist might study ants. The type of scientist who would pull the legs off an ant, one at a time, to see how many you have to pull before the ant's running speed slows down.
I find the conversation with Solitär intriguing
Hey Thank You!
My only "complaint" is that you only read 2-3 chapters a week 🤣
This is a narrative masterpiece 🙌
The "I want to keep going" is why I ended up reading this whole arc thorugh even when I found out the anime season 2 was coming around here.
Season 2 is gonna be so good and this arc has so much left. It’s peak frieren
The Convergent Evolution bit is to draw a parallel with Humans and Deamons.
There's also a question about how the DK knew evolutionary theory. Was Truck-Kun involved? Personally I think not. It seems more likely that the DK was ancient and intelligent enough to have learned it, possibly by watching it happen.
That's kind of my guess too. Natural selection and such is like, something that can be put together with enough observation. Alfred Russel Wallace came to basically the same theory as Darwin in the same time in a similar situation (round-the-naturalist trip). They did have some different views (for example, Darwin thought that humans could be explained entirely through just natural seleciton, Wallace thought more had to be there), but it was still there. And in the 700s there was an Arabian guy who had a very primitive version.
So yeah, the Demon King just kind of figuring it out, especially with like you said, able tos ee some of it happening in "real time" more easily, makes sense. The use of convergent evoltuion is probalby just so us modern readers can understand it quicker.
@@blaqueup indeed. It also possibly contrasts with Serie, who is possibly even more ancient and seems to have learned little beyond just magic. Of course her intuition being so strong may be her massive weight of experience, it just isn't as simply framed as Solitare or the DK references are.
@@ObiwanNekody Kind of a funny bit with that, this is a bit why I think Frieren keeps going for chests even if they're mimics. If it is 1/100, it'll come up every once and awhile and she's probably rolled the dice enough times to feel it's worth the try. (This is stupid, but this is also Frieren here.)
@@blaqueup mhmm. Frieren has definitely rolled that Gatcha enough to get some wins. Honestly the cost is just a bad hair day, which is hardly anything for her.
Sort of a paralel between Frieren and Match, both trying to understand more about humans but with complete different consequences
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Hell yeah, Solitär!!!! We love women in STEM. 😆💜
STEM - Solitär Totally Eats Men
I can fix solitar. She can break me. No, I am not downbad.
I got my eye on you 🫣
@@GardeninT00l she's much more interesting than Übel... And probably much more likely to kill you.
She's much more interesting than Übel, but also much more likely to have you for dinner and display your skeleton in her personal museum.
Too bad my comment on last video was too late. Though I doubt it would have made understanding easier...
We finally meet the most awesome Solitär. One of my favorite character ever.
24:07 You really understand how macht was gonna do on point
Can't wait to check this out later ☺
The next 2 chapters will be a ride. The story of Weise is my most anticipated part of the upcoming season 2 :)
Thank you for sharing 😊
good stuff as always
24:50 yes, that seems to be the case. A few readings ago I marked a spot for undeclared reasons, and it's because what you said then was very close to this.
Remember how Macht speak with Denken (Gluck foster son)
Totally understable to read one more. In this flashback over chapters to get a good stop point is hard.
19:41 "So Macht totally knew what her name was at least!" - Well no. Everything about the fight against HotS and this conversation leading up to it is erased by Grausam, or in other words everything that hints at "Frieren" is memory to much, what Edel would have read. So to speak Macht has zero clue about Frieren.
You made it to my favorite female demon, if one can say so.
Well Glück. I hope the tong twister is not to tiresome. Wahrheit pronunciation is both thumbs up. Stay for Solitair with what you had at 2:02 what you said it is not, but it is :) - close enough is pronouncing it like the word at the end "air". Even closer is the beginning of the word "terrace" just used as the ending from "Soli-ter", which uses the loneword terra for earth from Latin and is in German and English super duper close in pronunciation .
Insta Like for that "One more chapter. LETS GO!". 😉
Also you got to the 5 thousand ;)
The scariest part of the manga, the entire manga, is that Schlacht has that brief aside to Frieren. This strongly suggests that everything that has happened is within his expectations for the future he wished to come to be.
Of course maybe he just says that to everyone before they get memory wiped, just in case because Frieren is that scary to him...
I want to say more but I can't remember if you have read something yet so I'm not going to at this time.
The interesting thing is that the Hero of the South has the same power as Schlacht, and they are said to be equals. So every future Schlacht as seen, the Hero of the South has also seen, and every act or manipulation Schlacht has done to try to push the future in a certain way, the Hero of the South has also seen, and decided "that's ok, I can allow that." And it's all supposed to come to a head in some event 1000 years in the future that will determine whether demonkind will survive or be exterminated. Schlacht has bent all his efforts, up to the sacrifice of his own life, to ensure that demons do survive (or so he says). But what did the Hero of the South see? What has he done, if anything, to push the future in a direction HE wants, and if he did, what direction is that? Who between them, in the end, has seen further?
@@adamwu4565 it's problematic because while their powers are said and seen as equal, Schlacht references timelines further along than the Hero of the South, so he maybe made better use of that power. Their goals also may not have been directly in opposition... We will have to see.
Oh my god!!!!!! LETS GOOOOOO
18:54 see! SEE!!!! 😂😂😂
I’m not even mad we didn’t get to see this probably awesome fight.
Solitar the goat
Oh. Oh my. My money is on the Hero of the South being a golden statue hidden somewhere. 4th time I have been throught this bit and just realized that now.
I would guess not. I would imagine Macht acts as area denial that HotS would have to completely avoid. Using his foresight, he could easily avoid him, but he’d be pressured into moving into one place.
@@andrewli6606it's more because of why it was so important that Frieren didn't get to see the fight... The sages and their capabilities are known to her at this time, so there has to be some other aspect of the fight that would be problematic for her to have knowledge of. The post fight condition of those who took part in the fight seems to be the most likely motivation.
It's also possible that he foresaw the anime and wanted to save on budget by not having the Hero of the South's last battle be animated.
@@ObiwanNekody It seems unlikely it would be a budgetary reason; it's almost certainly a story-related reason. I mean... think of it this way. Let's assume Hero of the South is a golden statue. Frieren finds him and is able to dispel the curse. Now we have a hero stronger than Serie and Stark. He's a storybreaking power. His foresight is way too powerful. It would make more sense that Schlact and Hero of the South killed each other to get rid of each others' foresight. I could come up with another reason. Perhaps Schlact used a power taught by the Demon King or something that would be very bad to have Frieren witness in the future.
@@andrewli6606 the budget reference was a joke...
Frieren (the anime/manga) doesn't have a level of insecurity with having it's viewpoint characters needing to be the most powerful, and is very capable of telling a great story for them even with someone as powerful as the Hero of the South in play, if he could be revived from being a golden statue.
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