Why "Das Boot" Became Germany's Most Expensive Film
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- This video dives into Das Boot (The Boat), a 1981 classic WWII U-Boat film. It explores the humanity of the German crew while acknowledging the historical context. Expect claustrophobic tension, impressive practical effects, and a thought-provoking look at war.
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Stating "They're Nazis" was ridiculous. We simply have no idea if many of them joined the party or were simply naval men doing their duty.
The term Nazi has a very different meaning when comparing the different perspectives. The German view is much more nuanced when classifying someone as a Nazi hence putting a lot more meaning to what the term actually means. Much like the 1st Officer is portrayed in the movie perfectly fits the German interpretation what a Nazi is, in stark contrast to most of the other crew. From the allied perspective it's a very broadly used term as in "Nazi Germany full of Nazis" much like all of "Russia is full of communists". From the German perspective you might as well say that for them all Russians were communists or bolsheviks at the time without having any nuance at all.
Das Boot, if you are willing to get over the broad stroke term of Nazi, offers great insight. But I understand that for somebody from the US you first an foremost watch a movie with Nazis in it and it's really not an easy thing to sympathise with those guys.
1. As we know, not all men are bald. Likewise, not all German soldiers were Nazis. A soldier is a soldier, and a Nazi is a Nazi. Sometimes the two things came together and sometimes they didn't. Many soldiers were criminals, many Nazis were not. Likewise, not all Americans supported slavery. Life is not black and white.
2. Initially, the Kriegsmarine had an order to rescue enemy survivors and provide them with assistance. Usually, the enemy was informed that his ship needed help and the location was given, life rafts were made available, and sometimes the wounded were taken on board (then such boats could not submerge). However, the Americans (and the British) had a different policy. Instead of saving their survivors, they attacked and sank German boats that were helping the drowning. In this way, the Germans lost many submarines. Therefore, Admiral Doenitz issued a complete ban on providing any assistance to enemy survivors or revealing their location. It was a nightmare for every sailor. And this scene is shown in the movie.
"Das Boot" plays in 1941, the laconia incident (US bombed helping german u-boats with life-rafts in tow) was in 1942 - only then the order was given bei Doenitz. So, U-96 did not act on the DΓΆnitz Order, it did not yet exist. What remains is, that u-boats can not really take on prisoners while on patrol, but the could have dropped at least a few life-rafts, that u-boats also carry. The burnt sailors would not have survived either way, but not all of them were burnt.
The Ship you was talking was the Bismarck. And yes the Rudder was hitten by a Torpedo and the Bismarck couldnt steer, but not from a little Submarine rather from an old double decker Plane
It was also made as a tv serie witch is even longer
Das Boot is one of my favorite movies. Here's a minor correction and some trivia:
No real subs were used in the movie. All were wooden replicas - which had been driving production cost. Even the outside shots cruising on the sea used a full-scale swimming replica.
The "sea-worthy" replica broke and sank late in the production. It was salvaged and patched for the final scene (arrival in La Rochelle). Some shots reveal patches. But the intended look of a battered ship, returning from a tough fight, helped covering some of the damage from the mishap.
Das Boot was not just a movie. They also shot a longer version for a TV-mini series, which was aired 4 years later and was super successful (a "street sweeper" as we say in German: no one on the streets while an episode aired). The extra footage from the TV series was what allowed them to make the extra long "director's cut movie" version more than a decade later.
yes, it is such a good movie...
Das Boot and Paths of Glory are the top 2 war movies/anti-war movies i've seen. There's a 6 part miniseries of this too. I've not seen any versions of this for a long time. I cant remember much about the miniseries, if it included the Directors Cut plus extra bits or not? Near where I live in UK we have the RN Submarine museum which is an amazing day out. Its main attaraction, HMS Aliance was designed during ww2 but not completed until 1946 I think? Its so much more spacious and comfortable compared to this Uboat class. HMS Holland 1 is another fantastic restoration there. built in 1901.
The first submarine to be used in combat was during the American Revolutionary War.
They wanted to let go the journalist and let the leading engineer go back home before the Gibraltar crossing. Sorry, but did you even watch the movie?
The engineer was down with his nerves and at the point of time the captain judged, that he is of no real use anymore because of his worn down nerves (he was wrong about that, but nontheless). Because one guy on a journey though Spain was difficult and because the journalist was useless for them anyway, he wanted him to accompany the engineer on his way back home.
In a podcast about Das Boot you don't even know important details about the movie anymore?
Hmmm...
PS: The oily rag incident didn't happen under attack. They weren't fighting for their lives at that point of time. They greased in the torpedoes as a part of the normal daily routine on a normal day without any tension or threat for their lives. But the journalist was simply getting on their nerves with his constant photographing and wanting them to pose for photos in the middle of them doing an annoying and work intensive, dirty job.
Again: This is a podcast episode about the movie Das Boot and you aren't even remembering that movie properly anymore?
PPS: U-571 was a cringy, very bad made & written, very bad copy of Das Boot with very bad, wooden "action movie"-gung ho-dialogues. You enjoyed that ultra-crappy movie?
I see....
Wow der Typ tut ja so als wΓΌrde er sich super auskennen und der Interviewer weiΓ nicht mal ob das Nazis sind? Like in the first sentences? π ein bisschen peinlich
Ich glaube die Frage zielte eher darauf ab, ob man deutsche Soldaten im Zweiten Weltkrieg pauschal als Nazis bezeichnen kann. Aber darΓΌber kann man ewig diskutieren und es Γ€ndert so oder so nichts an der Vergangenheit.
@@carador9286 an der Zukunft aber
1. As we know, not all men are bald. Likewise, not all German soldiers were Nazis. A soldier is a soldier, and a Nazi is a Nazi. Sometimes the two things came together and sometimes they didn't. Many soldiers were criminals, many Nazis were not. Likewise, not all Americans supported slavery. Life is not black and white.
2. Initially, the Kriegsmarine had an order to rescue enemy survivors and provide them with assistance. Usually, the enemy was informed that his ship needed help and the location was given, life rafts were made available, and sometimes the wounded were taken on board (then such boats could not submerge). However, the Americans (and the British) had a different policy. Instead of saving their survivors, they attacked and sank German boats that were helping the drowning. In this way, the Germans lost many submarines. Therefore, Admiral Doenitz issued a complete ban on providing any assistance to enemy survivors or revealing their location. It was a nightmare for every sailor. And this scene is shown in the movie.
The laconia incident