The DARK SIDE of politics How Tom Mboya PLANNED to KILL Jomo Kenyatta |James Khwatenge|Plug Tv

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  • Опубликовано: 11 дек 2024

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  • @ericgillo8256
    @ericgillo8256 11 месяцев назад +17

    I love listening to your stories bt hapo kwa Tom Mboya,Ziii

    • @SSk5k
      @SSk5k 3 месяца назад

      Illiteracy makes one blind to truth

  • @saidbarawa9096
    @saidbarawa9096 10 месяцев назад +14

    He was not greedy for power,he was born with leadership

  • @isoeorora9627
    @isoeorora9627 11 месяцев назад +25

    For the first time I have heard story ya jaba from you.Ati Mboya wanted to kill Jomo!!!!!

    • @ericmayaka7040
      @ericmayaka7040 11 месяцев назад +1

      How old are you?

    • @andyandre7814
      @andyandre7814 11 месяцев назад +1

      Jaluo 😂
      Hamupendi kuambiwa ukweli
      Ndio maana hamutwahi ongoza

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@andyandre7814 Have you understood the comment to which you are responding? Have you grasped Katwenge's fairy tales and story za jaba? Then respond in English because both the comment to which you are responding and Katwenge's fairy tales are in English. And for once, be specific in your response. Instead of making Luos the object of your uncouth, unschooled and uncivilized attack, demonstrate the truthfulness of Katwenge's fairy tales by pointing to any new evidence or literature reference that might lead one to deviate from what's already known. Why would Katwenge, whose highest rank was an Inspector, have access to classified documents? An inspector of police is too low a level to access classified documents. If such a thing was ever allowed, then there would never be documents referred to as being classified. Hizo za Katwenge are just fairy tales.

    • @rustyockhamsrazor
      @rustyockhamsrazor 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@georgeodhiambo598 y all the yapping🤨

    • @chilobaba4406
      @chilobaba4406 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@georgeodhiambo598 tell him tell him, some people are rather imbecilic!

  • @jimsonmurangiri4745
    @jimsonmurangiri4745 11 месяцев назад +20

    Tom mboya killing jomo Kenyatta? That's far fetched.

    • @livewire_podcast
      @livewire_podcast 11 месяцев назад

      Ingia politics utashangaa. Ama uende upige story na Jalaas for the few months he been there.

    • @ericmayaka7040
      @ericmayaka7040 11 месяцев назад

      Tell us your side

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 11 месяцев назад

      @@ericmayaka7040 My side is the time tested side that has stood and passed the test of time. Anyone trying to deviate from that side is the one with the responsibility of coming up with evidence or literature reference to records on the murder. Just throwing empty words around while hiding under the banner of forner intelligence officer is not enough to alter anything. Mboya was killed by Jomo Kenyatta and his cronies.

    • @SSk5k
      @SSk5k 3 месяца назад

      You fool

  • @havillah6073
    @havillah6073 11 месяцев назад +9

    It was the insecurity of those who were in power that eliminated him and not his hunger for power

  • @MuthuiKim
    @MuthuiKim 10 месяцев назад +10

    Your story about Tom Mboya trying to kill Jomo is so way different with that of Lee Njiru, who served Kenyatta. Lee told us Mboya was Jomo's pointman to succeed him since he knew he was dying. Mzee's allies and kikuyu cabinet friends didn't go well with the story. They planned to eliminate Mboya. And I would go in hand with Lee's story.

    • @mosesmururu
      @mosesmururu 5 месяцев назад +2

      this is someone who was in secret service so i think he knows much more. Lee on the other hand would never show the dark side of Jomo.

  • @Zonesafari
    @Zonesafari 11 месяцев назад +6

    Its hard for mzee Oginga to have ordered for mboyas assassination,that old name wasnt used to politics of assassinations

  • @centcity3738
    @centcity3738 11 месяцев назад +28

    Being a former policeman isn't licence to lies straight faced.

    • @ogana_M
      @ogana_M 11 месяцев назад +7

      The former SB officer was a witness at the TJRC where Judges and lawyers had the chance to cross examine his testimony.Please correct the lies he has talked about by stating the correct position and your references if you have any, otherwise stop discrediting people just you don't like what they say.

    • @harrimargmediaservices
      @harrimargmediaservices 11 месяцев назад +4

      This man speaks nonosense

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@ogana_M Which judges were at TJRC? TJRC was not a court. There were some lawyers and non-lawyers but there were no judges. Also bear in mind that TJRC had credibility issues leading to some commissioners resigning (the Deputy Chair resigned) and some members refusing to append their signatures to the report. It is a document mired in controversy and of questionable value. Even the Chairman's involvement in Wagalla massacre and his suitability to Chair the Commission was a hotly debated issue within the Commussion leading to cracks in it.

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@harrimargmediaservices I fully concurr. His past where his ilk were regularly engaged to carry out dirty stuff on behalf of political class is haunting him. He is talking hogwash.

    • @la-ry1ms
      @la-ry1ms 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@harrimargmediaservicesjust say the truth is uncomfortable that doesn't necessarily make it nonsensical

  • @afrikanmike
    @afrikanmike 11 месяцев назад +12

    This DUDE Must Be SUFFERING FROM MEMORY LAPSES - NO WONDER HE WAS SACKED😂😂😂😂

    • @MAKAVELLI207
      @MAKAVELLI207 11 месяцев назад +3

      Let me guess, you don't like what he's saying...

    • @chilobaba4406
      @chilobaba4406 6 месяцев назад

      @@MAKAVELLI207 Yes, he doesn't like lies. And the man is lying. Why would Mboya want to shoot an old man whom he claims he knew was almost dying? Why use a gunman instead of other means that could be assumed to be due to the old man's failing health?

  • @mwangimukuha
    @mwangimukuha 10 месяцев назад +1

    Plug tv ina story moto sana. Keep up! Just subscribed

  • @ayzoebrad
    @ayzoebrad 5 месяцев назад +2

    Jaramogi killing Tom Mboya? Oginga was a man of integrity who wouldn't resolve to under-hand tactics. This guy smh

  • @grambofiasco
    @grambofiasco 11 месяцев назад +4

    Story za jaba.'

    • @ericgillo8256
      @ericgillo8256 11 месяцев назад +2

      Kabisa,tena Ile fresh,zimemshika tu sana😂😂😂

  • @collinsochieng8992
    @collinsochieng8992 11 месяцев назад +7

    That’s a theory …as much as I agree “in politics we don’t have saints “ …I don’t think its true .

  • @nawazali93
    @nawazali93 4 месяца назад

    Omg this is so interesting and fascinating, I love it 💯👍

  • @PatrickIkegu-y7q
    @PatrickIkegu-y7q 11 месяцев назад +4

    Av been listening to Mr. Khwatenge for long, bt seems currently stories inaanza kua stories tu , av a sincerely question to khwatenge, apart from other people's stories, since you've decided kuwa msema kweli, hebu utuambie zako sasa zile ulifanya

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 11 месяцев назад +3

      Ndiyo! Katwenge atuambie ni wangapi alisafirisha binguni on behalf of political class.

    • @deogratiasfocus8907
      @deogratiasfocus8907 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@georgeodhiambo598😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @rbmedia4188
      @rbmedia4188 6 месяцев назад

      Now you are talking

  • @sangnicholas7777
    @sangnicholas7777 9 месяцев назад

    Can't wait to read Mr Kwatenge's book (s). Fine history you rarely get anywhere.

  • @z2orr744
    @z2orr744 10 месяцев назад +1

    The moment you said that TM wanted to eliminate JK.
    I immediately STOPPED coz nothing can be further from the truth. How can this even make sense? Nkt!

  • @fredrickmalandege4572
    @fredrickmalandege4572 11 месяцев назад +4

    This is a liar
    This guy hates . He has nothing to offer.

  • @coyoluo
    @coyoluo 4 месяца назад +1

    There is NO WAY Tom Mboya planned to kill Jomo, NO WAY.

  • @owuocheoduor5189
    @owuocheoduor5189 11 месяцев назад +9

    On that fateful day Tom never went to Panafric Hotel where he is claiming Tom met his assassin.He went to Chaanis chemist streight from his office and didn't meet anybody at Panafric Hotel.

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 11 месяцев назад +1

      Katwenge has ran mad!

    • @Ken_W254
      @Ken_W254 11 месяцев назад

      Hope you have evidence. You are trying to challenge his point out of reading books whereas the person you are challenging was working as intelligent by then. So who knows more.

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@Ken_W254 Being a former intelligence officer is not a licence for lying. Mboya drove from Treasury to Channis Pharmacy and that has never been in dispute. It is for Katwenge, the hallucinating former intelligence officer, to put forth his evidence that Mboya's trip from Treasury to Channi's pharmacy was through a longer route.

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@Ken_W254 Was Katwenge an intelligent (sic!) in 1969 when he was an 8 year old boy? Stop descending to the lousy Katwenge level of logic. Tumia akili kidogo before you post your comments.

    • @hastengo
      @hastengo 11 месяцев назад

      Were you with him?

  • @benardonyango3106
    @benardonyango3106 2 месяца назад +1

    That's total nonsense, Tom Mboya was not hungry for power

  • @francisoakmoore9711
    @francisoakmoore9711 11 месяцев назад +2

    Who is your source.

  • @givenkakambi
    @givenkakambi 11 месяцев назад +7

    How old were u at that time Khwatenge? Tom killing Jomo total lie! Tom was 2 small to penetrate in Jomo's security, this one its total lies.

  • @wuodsarahvin
    @wuodsarahvin 11 месяцев назад +2

    Huyu ameanza uongo

  • @ralph839
    @ralph839 11 месяцев назад +4

    Khwatenge is a BIG liar and this thing should be shut down, just lies and very dangerous divisive talk.

  • @barygarcia3128
    @barygarcia3128 11 месяцев назад +2

    Huyu msee is out to sanitise himself.. hawa ndio walikuwa waki torture watu. He has never wanted to discuss his dark past .. his body language has clues

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 11 месяцев назад

      Absolutely correct. He is trying to cover up his own dark past. These are the characters who were hatchet men in the evil past administrations. The ones who do the actual killings are the Katwenge's of this world.

  • @lenniefei6710
    @lenniefei6710 11 месяцев назад +5

    Kama ulichezwa na gavaa beta kubali na maisha isonge instead of concocting nonsense on the social media !

  • @victorosong
    @victorosong 11 месяцев назад +10

    "In politics we don't have saints."

  • @FestusOuma-ti3dy
    @FestusOuma-ti3dy 6 дней назад

    Wrong video title, Mboya was not hungry for power.
    Mboya was simply a selfless n visionary leader. He was a global figure. He got favour in places that even the president never managed, at the age he was.
    The world will always gve a standing ovation.
    This man being interviwed, doesn't even have facts.

  • @chrisogonas
    @chrisogonas 11 месяцев назад +6

    Tom Mboya planned to kill Jomoooo??? That's a totally new perspective and theory from Kwatenge. I wish he could demonstrate that more concretely.

    • @ericmayaka7040
      @ericmayaka7040 11 месяцев назад

      If he got enough time...he has explained it well in his RUclips channel

    • @afrikanmike
      @afrikanmike 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@ericmayaka7040- Remember this man read what others wrote Because when Tom MBOYA was Assassinated this man had not been absorbed I n to the Special Branch Department

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@afrikanmike And Mboya file isn't likely to be one of those files that could be accessed by every Katwenge, Dick and Harry. Why would he have been allowed to access such a a highly classified file? Katwenge is just being haunted by his dark past in the Special Branch. Let him candidly talk about his past.

    • @bladetvke
      @bladetvke 11 месяцев назад

      It's true, even former West Mugirango MP Mr Morara bumped into Nashon while in Zambia, and yet the government of Kenya announced that he was dead.

    • @chrisogonas
      @chrisogonas 11 месяцев назад

      @@ericmayaka7040 "Explained well..." where? Please, share the specific link. Thanks

  • @zmm5489
    @zmm5489 11 месяцев назад +2

    Khatwenge, put down that glass of changaa. It is making your lips red and also affecting your thinking. Leave Mboya alone

  • @Mkenyamwangi
    @Mkenyamwangi 13 дней назад

    Uyu Mzee anakuwanga na uongo😅

  • @francisoakmoore9711
    @francisoakmoore9711 11 месяцев назад +1

    This guy should confess his atrocities against Kenyans.

  • @Dennis_Okelo
    @Dennis_Okelo 11 месяцев назад +8

    Man this is so true bro. He told it to Haile Selassie who informed Kenyatta. On coming home from Ethiopia he was a marked man.

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 11 месяцев назад

      Plans to eliminate Mboya were set in motion soon after he had played the biggest role in sidelining Odinga. Kenyatta was never at any time comfortable with either of them. He used Mboya to sideline Odinga and set in motion plans to eliminate Mboya. Firstly, Mboya's security guard at home shot at his car in 1967, and it was later explained that the guard had lost his mind. By 1968, plans were underway to displace Mboya from Nairobi politics and the Kiambu Mafia was setting up and funding candidates to rock Mboya's trade union base. Soon after his political base was under attack from the same sources. By early 1969, there were whispers in Nairobi about plans to assassinate him. His very close American friend Scheinnann proposed to hire additional security guards because of loss of trust in Govt provided security. Mboya's killing was not a spur of the moment kind of thing. Kenyatta had a well laid out plan for it. Get yourself a copy of the book, "Tom Mboya: The Man Kenya Wanted to Forget" by David Goldsworthy". It is one of the most authoritative and detailed books ABOUT Mboya. And it brings out key details about the environment he was operating in at every stage.Then you might appreciate the depth of the conspiracy.
      Mboya was killed just a day or so after he returned from Ethiopia so conspiracy to kill him could not have been a 24hr event! You are not making sense.

    • @SP1-media
      @SP1-media 11 месяцев назад

      Was he that dumb?

    • @Dennis_Okelo
      @Dennis_Okelo 11 месяцев назад

      @@SP1-media At times you can trust snakes. I have never been a lover of Haile Selassie since I knew that

    • @SP1-media
      @SP1-media 11 месяцев назад

      @@Dennis_Okelo Wah. This is a lot of new information that I didn't know.

    • @ErickOkwach
      @ErickOkwach 11 месяцев назад

      Those are rumours. Mboya was killed by people who did not want him to rise. There are better information about this than this.

  • @abelmakori
    @abelmakori 11 месяцев назад +5

    Tomboya planning to kill Kenyatta? Now that's new😂

  • @obaraokech8804
    @obaraokech8804 5 дней назад

    Hapo nayo umetudanganya

  • @ogana_M
    @ogana_M 11 месяцев назад +7

    All the people commenting negatively about Khwatenge cannot come up with their own versions and their sources other than what they read in primary school history lessons.Nobody is forcing them to watch his interviews.If you don't like his interviews you can keep off or start your own channel or ask for interviews and let us see whether you can attract even 500 views or 1000 subscribers.

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 11 месяцев назад

      Is your understanding of Mboya's killing limited to primary school education? Didn't you go beyond primary school? There is so much credible and peer reviewed literature on Mboya so that anyone coming here as an intelligence officer with questionable stories will be questioned and critiqued loudly and clearly. Katwenge is well know for posting even self-contradictory reports to attract views. He is on record as having stated that JM's murder was accidental. That there were no plans to kill him! And in the same report he stated that the bomb that had exploded at OTC a few weeks before the assassination was targeting JM, which was correct. He went quiet when I asked him to clarify the contradiction. Why was that killing an accident yet they had wanted to kill him a few weeks earlier?
      Za Katwenge ni story za jaba!

    • @abbidad3054
      @abbidad3054 11 месяцев назад

      Not their version,the truth is Tom mboya wanted to hit JK

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@abbidad3054 What's the basis of your truth? Your information base about Mboya's killing is limited to Katwenge's narrow thinking. Other than Katwenge's hallucinations, which other literature or information source are you basing you conclusion on?

    • @alextercisio
      @alextercisio 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@georgeodhiambo598 your name betrays u

  • @MohamudHirey
    @MohamudHirey 7 месяцев назад +1

    But Tom mboya was killed by known person named JENGA from central kenya kiambu then took exile to Ethiopia

  • @frankohabil
    @frankohabil 11 месяцев назад +38

    With time, your stories are becoming more and more Jaba house inspired. Avoid chewing that thing.

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 11 месяцев назад +2

      Yenyewe, Katwenge amefuta bangi.

    • @frankohabil
      @frankohabil 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@georgeodhiambo598 kwanza zile sugu za kutoka pale Luanda.

    • @felixwagai2168
      @felixwagai2168 11 месяцев назад +5

      Since you know very little, some of these things might sound to you like stories za jaba

    • @frankohabil
      @frankohabil 11 месяцев назад +2

      @felixwagai2168 And what do you know, Mr know it all?

    • @ogadamesoesq.6917
      @ogadamesoesq.6917 11 месяцев назад

      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @tomwalalo2230
    @tomwalalo2230 11 месяцев назад +8

    Khatwenge was hardly 10 years old when Tom Mboya died. Therefore he definitely was not directly privy to intelligence matters at that time. It blows my mind that despite numerous accounts of the era from historians and journalists, this is the first time somebody is stating that Mboya wanted to kill Jomo. I can understand Mr Katwanjo's desire to get traction for his youtube channel. However, decency requires an acceptable level of truth in presenting matters with such historical significance. I guess he has to put food on the table by all means

    • @heraldloshi1864
      @heraldloshi1864 11 месяцев назад +2

      There are intelligence files in the restricted archives. He may have had access to them.

    • @ogana_M
      @ogana_M 11 месяцев назад +3

      Has it not occurred to you that as an Inspector at the SB from 1982 to 1993, he interacted with Senior officers in the Agency who were his bosses and who may have passed over the information to him or that he had access to classified files that not all SB officers had?

    • @ericmayaka7040
      @ericmayaka7040 11 месяцев назад +2

      He was an intelligent officer and probably he has gone through numerous files ...Mboya was not a saint...

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 11 месяцев назад +2

      Katwenge's are just cock-and-bull stories, otherwise referred to in Kenya''s parlance as story za jaba.
      These are the fellows who were doing the dirty work under Jomo Kenyatta's and Moi's of this world. His conscience is just eating him up and he is probably trying to clean up himself through these stories za jaba. I even spotted him stating somewhere that JM's killing was accidental. When I pointed out that there had been a bomb explosion at OTC on a bus in which JM was to travel to Mombasa, and therefore the intention to kill JM had been put into motion long before the fateful day, he went mum. Katwenge is either senile or he is being eaten up from within himself.

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@ericmayaka7040 Neither is Katwenge. His stories don't add up at critical points. He has stated elsewhere that JM's killing was accidental. That there was no intention to kill him on that fateful day. I asked Katwenge how one could reconcile the so-called accidental killing with the fact that few weeks before the killing, there had been a bomb explosion in an OTC bus, a bus which JM had booked to travel on to Mombasa but which he cancelled in the last minute. Then Katwenge went mum on the subject. Katwenge should stop throwing around words without substantiation under the veil of former intelligence officer. If he wishes to debunk any records regarding Kenya's dirty past, he ought to do so with some evidence.

  • @janenduta6409
    @janenduta6409 2 месяца назад

    They 're people who believed they can't be ruled

  • @jamesawanga4360
    @jamesawanga4360 3 месяца назад +1

    On Tom,you are making up the story to achieve your objective

  • @sundaytsuma6601
    @sundaytsuma6601 11 месяцев назад +2

    For this am sorry, ni story za jaba to access those files is not eaay

  • @mwangimukuha
    @mwangimukuha 10 месяцев назад

    The bombshell dropped here is crazy 2:17 ! What😮😮😂😂. I don't know what to believe next in this story 😂😅

  • @abelmakori
    @abelmakori 11 месяцев назад +5

    And I think he's talking too much,especially about Jacob Juma and Chris Msando, this matters are still fresh and probably the cases are still in court.

    • @ogana_M
      @ogana_M 11 месяцев назад +1

      To the best of my knowledge, nobody has ever been arrested regarding Msando's death while while the lady who was last seen with Jacob Juma was held briefly for questioning and then released.

  • @davidokello8171
    @davidokello8171 11 месяцев назад +1

    Timing suspect. Nia na madhumuni ni dhahiri

  • @Micasasucasa23
    @Micasasucasa23 4 месяца назад

    Which hunger for power. ? The government of the day was not comfortable of Tom mboya's smartness

  • @michaelnyangi4459
    @michaelnyangi4459 11 месяцев назад +1

    Tom Mboya was killed inside Channis pharmacy he was not meeting anyone else, i think this guy is being paid to misinform and distort history. i have listened to him and whatever he says any intelligent person can actually deduce and make an informed conclusion. Let him stop

  • @kevinmary7129
    @kevinmary7129 Месяц назад

    Uongo uongo uongo cooked data uongo za kitoto kabisaaa

  • @priesthood2431
    @priesthood2431 7 месяцев назад

    Wacha kundanganya wakenya please

  • @murigukabugi
    @murigukabugi 5 месяцев назад

    When he says "They" who does he refer to?

  • @JohnYohannanOsundwa
    @JohnYohannanOsundwa 11 месяцев назад

    Respect our fore fathers TOM MBOYA KENYATTA ODINGA AND ALL THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE NATION BUILDING . IF YOUR CLOUD CHASING PLEASE FOCUS ON YOUR GENERATION MUSICIANS AND OTHER CELEBRITY OTHERWISE BEFORE YOU GET A LAWSUIT OF SLANDER . LEARN FROM MAIN STREAM MEDIA BEFORE INTERVIEWING MIGUNA THEY ASKED HIM TO SIGN A CONSCENT .

  • @margaretmbae1928
    @margaretmbae1928 11 месяцев назад +5

    Story of Tom Mboya planning to kill Jomo?a new theory not well explained in this story😢

    • @Mzalendo2295
      @Mzalendo2295 11 месяцев назад

      Lol. This theory has been there. You need to do some digging into the history of kenya.

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 11 месяцев назад

      @@Mzalendo2295 Where has it been? In which document was it ever covered? This was one of the cover up and responsibility transference attempt by Kenyatta Govt in the very early days after the assassination. Immediately after the assassination, and even before the identifying or arresting the killer, Moi rushed out with the first Govt concocted story that Mboya's killing was the work of communists! Just like he did when JM disappeared and he told Parliament that JM had travelled to Zambia! In the case of Mboya, there was an uproar by Parliament and the story died out. Provide the source of this Katwenge story. It is actually a stupidly concocted story. How could events that had taken place in Ethiopia a day or so earlier lead to killing of Mboya on 5th July? A high level assassination takes some scenario planning because of potential backlash. Plans to eliminate Mboya commenced in 1967 soon after the common enemy that was the glue holding Kenyatta and Mboya together ie Jaramogi, had been sidelined.

  • @KahushG
    @KahushG Месяц назад

    Interviewer hajai skia izi story ama anastuka nini

  • @alfredmoti3542
    @alfredmoti3542 11 месяцев назад +3

    He is too old he should retire peacefully without more lies

    • @susannasusan
      @susannasusan День назад

      Becuos your saint,luo never kill he knows what he is saying am old enough to say he is speaking the truth

  • @ronaldrigz123
    @ronaldrigz123 11 месяцев назад

    In politics we don't have saints

  • @fredricknoel392
    @fredricknoel392 11 месяцев назад +3

    Dead men tell no tales

  • @fredrickowiti8939
    @fredrickowiti8939 11 месяцев назад +1

    So also Subans hunger for power?.

  • @georgeodhiambo598
    @georgeodhiambo598 11 месяцев назад +2

    The West would not allow what? Tom Mboya was eliminated by Kenyatta and his cronies. Kenyatta and Mboya were on the same ideological wavelength. Their strong differences arose from local political struggles, particularly with the common enemy (Jaramogi) having been sidelined.

    • @edwinndirangu659
      @edwinndirangu659 11 месяцев назад

      Ideologically they differed quite a lot. Mboya had Socialist leanings, though not the communist kind that Jaramogi was into.

    • @ogana_M
      @ogana_M 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@edwinndirangu659 .That is very much inaccurate. Tom Mboya was the darling of the Americans, while the British preferred Jomo.Both were capitalists to the core.Tom Mboya had no socialist leanings .Never.

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@edwinndirangu659 You are absolutely wrong. I know that you, just like most have watched Mboya in some you-tube video clip extolling virtues of AFRICAN Socialism. That video was recorded in 1965 when Africa was becoming the playground of East vs West. This was the counter narrative to Socialism that was spreading across Africa like wildfire. Every leader was outwardly acting as a communist or a socialist to appear to be standing apart from capitalism whose bearers had just been thrown out of Africa. To claim to be a capitalist was tantamount to be siding with former colonialists/oppressors. It couldn't sell. Africa was an ideological battle ground and Kenyatta Mboya wing could not claim to be the capitalists that they were. At the end of that heated debate Kenyatta tasked Mboya, Kibaki, Njonjo to develop a sessional paper for presentation to Parliament. They were assisted by a bunch of American economists.The document was the famous Sessional Paper No 10 of 1965. The document was launched by none other than Jomo Kenyatta who declared that with its launch, the ideological debate raging in Kenya was expected to come to an end. It was one of the most hotly and ideologically debated documents in Parliament.
      The same document formed the foundation for Kenya's capitalistic and centralized development that changed only a little after the country adopted Sessional Paper No. 1 of 1980 by Robert Ouko, that brought in some element of DISTRIBUTION with growth.
      Jomo Kenyatta is the one who tasked Mboya and group to lead the ideological battle against Jaramogi and group in the political and economic direction the country was to take after independence.
      And he put everything into it ending in the sidelining of Jaramogi.

    • @edwinndirangu659
      @edwinndirangu659 11 месяцев назад

      @@georgeodhiambo598 Thanks for the clarification. Funny enough I have a Tom Mboya book at home which I struggled to read because the editors did not do a good job with it. As the economic ideologies exist on a spectrum, it is safer to say Mboya was more free-market oriented and leaned more towards Kenyatta's political and economic view. I wrongly assumed that because of his pan-Africanist views similar to people like Nyerere, Nkurumah and Gaddafi that would automatically have their socialist tendencies. What do you suppose were the local political differences that would lead to his eventual assassination?

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@edwinndirangu659 Exactly. Mboya and Kenyatta were very similar in political and economic thinking. The only major characteristic difference between Mboya and Kenyatta was that Kenyatta was a kleptocrat to the core, while Mboya had a very dim view of the practice of stealing of public resources.
      Nkrumah and Nyerere were their ideological opposite.
      I am not certain how their political differences arose but I have read from other sources that right from the time Kenyatta,Mboya and Odinga started interacting closely, Kenyatta was uncomfortable with both Mboya and Odinga. But he was aware of some simmering low level rivalry between Mboya and Odinga. With Odinga the differences were ideological because Odinga was leaning towards the East. But with Mboya, it was his sheer brilliance and eloquence which bothered Kenyatta. Kenyatta's plan was to develop a strategy to eliminate/sideline BOTH of them. To him the most immediate danger was posed by Odinga. Therefore he deployed Mboya to lead the charge in sidelining Odinga, which Mboya executed pretty well. Kenyatta's second strategy was to eliminate or sideline Mboya. A sidelined Mboya could still have been a danger to Kenyatta due to Mboya's organizational powers, wide support across the country and vast international connections. So eliminating Mboya became Kiambu Mafia's choice.
      The plot to kill Mboya commenced in 1967, hardly a year after he had led the charge in sidelining Odinga. The sentry at his Nairobi home fired at his vehicle only for the Govt to explain that the sentry had temporarily lost his mind. Kenyatta and his cronies were also uneasy with Kenyatta's dwindling health and succession politics. Such were the dynamics in local politics that led to Mboya's killing.

  • @mentuhotepii2641
    @mentuhotepii2641 11 месяцев назад +1

    UONGO!

  • @jaredomondi8551
    @jaredomondi8551 11 месяцев назад

    Two things which are NOT factual is Tom wanting to kill Mboya and saying he's Abasuba!

  • @patrickokemba6534
    @patrickokemba6534 11 месяцев назад +3

    NONSENSE in Capita LETTERS

  • @minorainvestments4234
    @minorainvestments4234 11 месяцев назад +3

    Bwana Khwatenge please on such sensitive matters please you need to be factual and quote the source of your information. You seem to be knowing everything, surely it is not possible. Where you are asked a question and you don't know you can just say you don't know. If you are not careful you will outlive your usefulness and become irrelevant. On Tom Mboya wanting to kill Kenya please prepare another video with facts and clear this.

  • @vitalisodera9909
    @vitalisodera9909 11 месяцев назад +1

    That is very strange. Tom was planning to kill JK. Then somebody betrayed Tom. Luos don't easily plan assassin

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 11 месяцев назад

      It is only strange to those who are thick enough to believe Katwenge's fairy tales. Mboya had no plans whatsoever to kill Kenyatta. Decision to kill Mboya was not made abruptly at a zebra-crossing. Evidence of such plans appeared immediately after Kenyatta and Mboya wing had sidelined their common enemy ie Jaramogi. His sentry fired at his car and later the govt explained the incident as a case of temporary insanity. By February 1969 (the month when Argwings K'Odhek died in a mysterious road accident) it was already in the public domain that Mboya was a target for assassination. He shared his concerns with his close friends including Scheinmann. Read widely and stop following Katwenge like a blind man. Katwenge is also blind. He can't guide you to any destination, for he too, cannot see.

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 Месяц назад

      There is no evidence anywhere that Mboya planned to kill Jomo. It is just an outburst by Katwenge who is just being haunted by the many crimes against humanity that he, together with his colleagues at Special Branch visited upon Kenyans. The man is hallucinating. Damu ya binadamu ni mzito.

  • @drip_edboi3984
    @drip_edboi3984 6 дней назад

    Tom mboya was given presidence by the colonial ..crazy story, guess work

  • @emilyrissling9703
    @emilyrissling9703 11 месяцев назад

    God knows all

  • @teacherbenjamin7569
    @teacherbenjamin7569 11 месяцев назад +1

    No way

  • @johnkn12
    @johnkn12 10 месяцев назад

    That was Mathenge who slapped Moi. Not Njenga.

  • @priesthood2431
    @priesthood2431 7 месяцев назад

    Which kikuyu was killed apart from JM

  • @obitifineartacademy4999
    @obitifineartacademy4999 11 месяцев назад

    Camera inatetemeka ...check out on it bro next clips

  • @maranathaafrica
    @maranathaafrica 11 месяцев назад

    Who is they?

  • @geoffreywanjala5257
    @geoffreywanjala5257 11 месяцев назад

    Two boys were playing duo football,a vehicle with whites and black driver came over speculate turned south east to a bridge, vehicle turned back, football still on . Thanks Whites for book,plus family....1969

  • @m-slopes-media
    @m-slopes-media 11 месяцев назад +1

    This guy amechomeka lips , ni kanuthu, his mind inaradarada sana, ati his prime alikuwa na memory poa sana , but alcohol ni mbaya it destroys only the best minds

  • @ngeshui
    @ngeshui 11 месяцев назад

    He seems like he had something he needed to say about Dedan 🤔

  • @georgeopiyo9282
    @georgeopiyo9282 11 месяцев назад +2

    Here you are lying,Mboya was not killed at the statute,he was killed as he walked out of the chemist.
    Mboya was killed by Njonjo not even Kenyatta

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 11 месяцев назад +1

      You are very correct on where Mboya was killed. He was shot at the door of Channis chemist as he was walking out, then pulled back into the chemist shop as he collapsed.
      But I differ on your assertion that Mboya was killed by Njonjo. There is a concept of the bearer of maximum responsibility for a crime. Neither Njonjo nor Kenyatta fired the shot that killed Mboya. Assuming Njonjo is the one who planned Mboya's killing and assuming that Kenyatta was not a part of it, then Kenyatta ought to have caused Njonjo to face the law. He didn't. Kenyatta cannot escape bearing the maximum criminal responsibility for the many political assassinations that took place during the 15 years of his blood thirsty and murderous regime.
      At each stage, he covered the murder planners because he was at the head of those assassination plans.

  • @djculture254
    @djculture254 11 месяцев назад

    These stories keep changing. Who's telling the actual story?

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 11 месяцев назад

      Anyone throwing around stories based on speculations like Katwenge is just engaged in story za jaba. Truthful stories are backed by evidence or reference to credible, named sources.

  • @chilobaba4406
    @chilobaba4406 6 месяцев назад

    Tom Mboya was not a Suba. So the informed SB officer with all the information we are told they have doesn't know this? I am beginning to take this guy's stories now with lots of pinches of NaCl!

  • @sospeterojowaoloo
    @sospeterojowaoloo 11 месяцев назад +1

    So do you mean to say Tom Mboyas Ambition was criminal whose Penalty was Death. 😮

  • @kennedynyaminde5661
    @kennedynyaminde5661 11 месяцев назад +1

    Hehe.

  • @TheVadFamily
    @TheVadFamily 11 месяцев назад +5

    Don't twist history kindly

    • @stux1143
      @stux1143 11 месяцев назад +2

      He is not, just saying the truth

    • @stux1143
      @stux1143 11 месяцев назад +2

      You are comfortable with what you were made to believe, be open for new info.

    • @livewire_podcast
      @livewire_podcast 11 месяцев назад +1

      do you think they could teach that in school. do you think they could teach you that kenyatta betrayed mau mau.......

    • @livewire_podcast
      @livewire_podcast 11 месяцев назад +1

      if you think he is lying go and continue reading your class five social studies book

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@stux1143 If Khatwenge wants to deviate from recorded history, then it is upon him to bring in the evidence to discount what's already recorded. You can't just go around throwing words aimlessly in the name of new information. T the time of independence and soon after, many young Kenyans were sent to foreign countries to learn all sorts of skills. They were not sent out there to come back as tools of those who sent them. Mboya oversaw the famous American scholarship program. Beneficiaries of those programmes did not become Mboya youth wingers. Nahashon Njenga was a Nairobi Kanu Youth winger and was among the many beneficiaries of Odinga's Eastern program. Others found their way to Israel. Nordic countries too. This senile Khatwenge should be more serious.

  • @kipchorngwonektiroto457
    @kipchorngwonektiroto457 14 дней назад

    This man does not mention Kenyatta and Mt. Mafia by name.He relishes mentioning Moi on the other hand.When it comes to the former he uses "THEY" Hiyo ni nini?

  • @thatguycmk7548
    @thatguycmk7548 10 месяцев назад

    what kind of journalist doesn't know what a populist is?
    😳

  • @mjelombilini7628
    @mjelombilini7628 7 месяцев назад

    I disagree, it was not hunger for power, people should learn to be analytical about a genuine man's conduct, that will prevent fatal consequences.

  • @ErickOkwach
    @ErickOkwach 11 месяцев назад +2

    It is wrong to claim Mboya wanted to kill Jomo. That is far fetched. Mboya was killed by Kenyatta and his inner circle who were threatened by Mboya's rising star. Those are rumours that have never been established. We love your page but it would be prudent to talk of things that happened when you were a cop. Mboya was killed by Njenga and the circumstances surrounding his death are well known.

  • @paulolungae8857
    @paulolungae8857 8 месяцев назад

    Oginga Odinga had no capacity to organise anyone's death.Ingact it's said that he had warned Mboya that he would be killed.
    This guy is a liar who is looking for mileage.
    Mungai was not a simple police officer.He was in charge of the Rift Valley.....

  • @BernardJumah
    @BernardJumah 11 месяцев назад +1

    J think he is speculating so he is not be affirmative, he has very little information j believe the Tom Mboya's assassination require less than ten minutes to narate.

  • @visita4588
    @visita4588 11 месяцев назад

    Kuna majina za kucheza nazo kaka.

    • @michaelkamau8421
      @michaelkamau8421 11 месяцев назад

      Acha kimbembele

    • @visita4588
      @visita4588 11 месяцев назад

      @@michaelkamau8421 wewe shika kinyuma nyuma. Fala wewe

  • @SSk5k
    @SSk5k 3 месяца назад

    Look at luos defending their own, politics can make you do bad thing

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 Месяц назад

      You know nothing. Luos and everybody else indeed have every right to call out the Katwenge of the discredited Special Branch. If you have more accurate information that could counter what has been stated, then lay it bare right here for scrutiny. Stop operating on Katwenge's story za jaba wavelength that lacks credibility in every way.

    • @SSk5k
      @SSk5k Месяц назад

      @@georgeodhiambo598 😂

  • @walterapiyo3442
    @walterapiyo3442 21 день назад

    Kwatende,Please please, STOP this dangerous misinformation:-
    : Tom Mboya wanting to kill Mzee Kenyatta?
    : Jaramogi wanting to kill Tom Mboya?
    Go tell these rubbish to the gullible birds

  • @keananyanchiri1166
    @keananyanchiri1166 11 месяцев назад

    JM not Tom Mboya.

  • @ongesobrian2493
    @ongesobrian2493 3 месяца назад

    I started by doubting this guy's Tom Mboya Narrative, but it seems to be true considering the story around the Bulgaria trained guy. His name is Nahashon Njenga. Guys you can google this guy. He is the reason George Morara Kebaso, MP of North Mugirngo dies afyter giving a 48 death altimatum. His grandson is the morara Kebaso we are seeing today. One of the witness to the case (Njenga case) was Mary Njeri, a cleaner at Kamiti prison that had met Njenga at a bar in Ngara. She wrote a statement at the police that Njenga had said, Tom Mboya was a very bad person. To make things interesting, Njenga was spotted two year later sipping beer in Lusaka Zambia yet he was supposed to have been hanged at Kamiti. Gius, gistory that we know, might not be the history that is TRUE. Also, however good a person his, his intentions are not always outright. So to learn be open-minded. You never know what Tom Mboya was thinking.

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 Месяц назад

      Read widely and keep clear of Katwenges story za jaba. Njenga was sent to Bulgaria together with many others at around the same time of independence. That's public knowledge. And it was a part of the group that were sent through Odinga's patronage. Read widely my friend.

  • @franklinmwirigi4196
    @franklinmwirigi4196 11 месяцев назад +1

    Tom Mboya was a CIA operative

    • @afrikanmike
      @afrikanmike 11 месяцев назад +1

      So he wanted to kill KENYATTA 😂😂😂😂??

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 11 месяцев назад

      You are wrong, but he was aligned to the West, and in particular US. Kenyatta too was aligned to the West. Ideologically they were on the same wavelength. Their differences arose from local power struggles. And with hindsight, it can be concluded that Kenyatta had plans to eliminate/sideline both Mboya and Odinga. It was just a question of timing.

  • @edwinnyakoyo4671
    @edwinnyakoyo4671 11 месяцев назад

    Full of inconsistencies.

  • @gakana100
    @gakana100 11 месяцев назад +1

    The best that could have happened to this country was Tom Mboya succeeding Jomo. With Jaramogi aligning with USSR ended his ever ascending to power. The West would not allow it.

    • @ogana_M
      @ogana_M 11 месяцев назад

      Tom Mboya was never going to succeed Jomo.Those around Jomo had ensured that by constantly increasing the minimum age for one to run for President to lock him out. His frustrations must have led him to contemplate killing Jomo and taking over the presidency with American support.

  • @collinsochieng8992
    @collinsochieng8992 11 месяцев назад +1

    In retrospect…was Tom Mboya working for the CIA ???

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 11 месяцев назад

      He wasn't working for CIA. But Mboya, among many others were getting support from CIA, just like Eastern leaning politicians were also getting support from Eastern countries. True non-alignment was just on paper. All Govts, and all significant leaders in Africa were aligned to one side or the other. If you were aligned to a country, be it in the East or in the West, you ended up getting into the network of their secret agents. CIA was abundantly present in Kenya.

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 Месяц назад +1

      Jomo Kenyatta, Tom Mboya, etc who were leaning to the West were working with (not for) CIA. Africa was a battle ground between the Russia KGB and USs CIA. There wasn't much space left for fence sitters. Mboya's killing by Jomo was not based on ideological difference because they were on the same wavelength ideologically. Their differences arise from local political squabbles.

  • @luobaba9193
    @luobaba9193 11 месяцев назад

    Moi killed him not his power hunger

    • @georgeodhiambo598
      @georgeodhiambo598 11 месяцев назад

      Moi had no capacity to kill Mboya and get away with it if Jomo Kenyatta hadn't approved of it. The buck stopped with Jomo Kenyatta.

  • @ogutumichael4778
    @ogutumichael4778 11 месяцев назад +1

    He was not a Suba. He was a Luo.

    • @ericmayaka7040
      @ericmayaka7040 11 месяцев назад

      He was from Mbita...the Mbitas are Subas

    • @carolinendege3590
      @carolinendege3590 11 месяцев назад

      Luo Abasuba yes

    • @ogutumichael4778
      @ogutumichael4778 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@carolinendege3590 There is nothing like Luo abasuba. You are either a Luo or a Suba. The late was a Luo.

    • @afrikanmike
      @afrikanmike 11 месяцев назад +4

      H​@@ericmayaka7040- Tom MBOYA'S father moved from Asembo Kanyigoro to Rusinga in 1915 - he was a pure LUO not a Suba

    • @josephombewa9828
      @josephombewa9828 11 месяцев назад

      ​​@@afrikanmikeI even asked his brother who was in US and confirmed Mboya was 100% Luo

  • @felixnyatete6152
    @felixnyatete6152 11 месяцев назад

    This man Khwatenge who doesn’t know whether he is a Kikuyu or a Luhyia is just a rumor monger. He is trying to narrate the story of the infamous assassination of Tom Mboya when he actually knows nothing about it. It is laughable that Mboya planned to kill Jomo and at the same time Jaramogi wanted to kill Mboya and finally Jomo killed Mboya. This is a fable fit for kindergarten children. There is no credibility in the story. He needs to do proper research before going crazy with stories he has no idea of.

  • @robertkyalo5328
    @robertkyalo5328 11 месяцев назад

    Fabricated story! I have not listened, reading the title was sufficient

  • @maryanneakiny9546
    @maryanneakiny9546 3 месяца назад

    Huyu storia teller is very confused Toma Mboya was AN Afrikan MENTOR like Patrick Lumumba Kwami, Nkruma, Abel Nassar ecc. So what you are saying about Mbboya to killer Kenyatta is not true. Those were the true founder of PANFRIKANISM....