The Bureau of Standards: The True Power in the Galaxy

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  • Опубликовано: 2 янв 2025

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  • @rexlumontad5644
    @rexlumontad5644 2 года назад +772

    "Enter the bureaucrats. The true rulers of the Empire. Wait a minute..." - confused Palpatine.

    • @Mechadondada
      @Mechadondada 2 года назад +70

      If Palps gets visibly confused, nobody in the room would live to tell ⚡️⚡️⚡️

    • @TY-PO
      @TY-PO 2 года назад +17

      @@Mechadondada UNLIMITED POWER

    • @Mechadondada
      @Mechadondada 2 года назад +6

      @@TY-PO ⚡️⚡️⚡️ ☠️

    • @tylerromero1
      @tylerromero1 2 года назад +29

      I mean he could force move a bunch of objects to cobble together a weapon the size of a room. But the bureaucrats can wave pens and build a death star

    • @hypothalapotamus5293
      @hypothalapotamus5293 2 года назад +15

      Coruscant is based on the planet Trantor (from Asimov, not Apple+). The planet Trantor was the nerve center of the Galactic Empire, its entire surface used to house its bureaucracy. Fleets of ships from 20 agricultural worlds supplied its inhabitants with food daily... This scale made Trantor vulnerable and, as the empire eroded, Imperial policy became increasingly focused on keeping Trantor's shipping lanes open.

  • @LOVEMUFFIN_official
    @LOVEMUFFIN_official 2 года назад +216

    As a real-life engineer, I can’t begin to describe how absurdly important and necessary a “Bureau of Standards” is for the proper and functional order of the world (galaxy).

    • @Exhausted_737
      @Exhausted_737 Год назад +8

      I agree. People have no fucking idea.

    • @darkmatterhafnium1522
      @darkmatterhafnium1522 11 месяцев назад +9

      ugh, yeah. Can’t believe some people getting angry about this stuff being added to star wars
      sure, not flashy. But going to need a lot of this shit even for just one star destroyer

  • @AliothAncalagon
    @AliothAncalagon 2 года назад +488

    I love how this show gives the foundation of the empire more "meat".
    One dictator isn't going to run a galaxy wide empire on his own.

    • @jedironin380
      @jedironin380 2 года назад +8

      He has people for that. ;)

    • @Feargal011
      @Feargal011 2 года назад +1

      @@jedironin380 And he will have spies watching them for any sign of 'rebellion' (initiative, resourcefulness, popular support) and spies watching the spies. A dictator must be paranoid to survive, so the empire must be, at its heart, inefficient, wasteful and smother innovation.

    • @midgetydeath
      @midgetydeath 2 года назад +2

      In the Dark Empire, Palpatine did so via mind-control and brainwashing with the Dark Side.

    • @kevinbrown4073
      @kevinbrown4073 2 года назад +1

      No dictatorship runs everything without the support of the bureaucracy

    • @stevemcgroob4446
      @stevemcgroob4446 2 года назад +8

      Makes me think of people like Anakin, who's frustrated by democratic bureaucracy only to go on and create an even more bureaucratic authoritarian regime.

  • @celebrim1
    @celebrim1 2 года назад +759

    The Bureau of Standards building is modelled after the original US pension bureau building, which had that large open air layout in order to make the building tolerable to work in DC's scorching hot summers. Ironically, the real building is one of the most beautiful in the world, although the invention of things like elevators and central heating and air has rendered it obsolete.
    Combining something like the US pension bureau building with the modern idea of a cubical farm, and then scaling that up to galactic scale feels real and grounded in a way that Star Wars usually doesn't. One thing I really like about 'Andor' is its starting to make the Galaxy feel big again, which during Disney+ era it just has not.

    • @maximusstarblazer
      @maximusstarblazer 2 года назад +36

      That's really interesting, thanks for sharing that bit. I also agree with you on how Andor makes the Star Wars galaxy feel so vast and populated. I am really excited with the visuals from the different worlds and the nitty gritty details and architecture of all the different places we get to see. Even all the little props and costumes are fantastic to see and the interaction of the characters in thier living and working environments.

    • @marsbase3729
      @marsbase3729 2 года назад +11

      @@maximusstarblazer dude, totally agree. I remember watching Star Trek as a kid, which I loved, but always wondered what life was like for the average everyday people. Andor really answers that question well. Excellent world building.

    • @views4rmthasix596
      @views4rmthasix596 2 года назад +6

      Yes I like that andor shows what the galaxy & empire are like without the Force, Jedi & sith. It’s makes sense since this is post order 66 & only the Jedi really knew palps was a Sith Lord. Most ppl couldn’t use the force n there were only 2 sith & 10,000 Jedi in the whole galaxy

    • @benjaminrees6665
      @benjaminrees6665 2 года назад

      Well said start to finish

    • @QuintusAntonious
      @QuintusAntonious 2 года назад +5

      The building also reminds me of Frank Lloyd Wright's Johnson Wax Building. The open work plan for clerks and the way that hierarchy was built into the very architecture so that those in higher corporate positions were literally above those below them is all here. The building is even Brutalist on the outside, which is not quite what Wright's Prairie School style was, but definitely a cousin to it and something very common in government buildings in the real world.

  • @jepprey4953
    @jepprey4953 2 года назад +584

    Cyril is going to turn into an insider threat and mess with blaster standards ever so slightly so that stormtroopers won’t be able to shoot straight

    • @celebrim1
      @celebrim1 2 года назад +20

      lol

    • @GenerationTech
      @GenerationTech  2 года назад +151

      Or that might just correct their terrible aim and do the opposite

    • @Lobsterwithinternet
      @Lobsterwithinternet 2 года назад +50

      @@GenerationTech Maybe he's why the Empire was competent for a few years before Yavin 4.

    • @wormcatman8652
      @wormcatman8652 2 года назад +92

      This actually happened in ww2 with the Germans ammo manufacturers. As it turns out using slaves (who have a vested interest in german defeat) make your weapons is a bad idea.

    • @paradoxworkshop4659
      @paradoxworkshop4659 2 года назад +16

      A dash of random to the power of pi, carry the one, aaand....
      ....sneezing powder...

  • @Lobsterwithinternet
    @Lobsterwithinternet 2 года назад +511

    Now to see the real powers behind the Empire.
    Even a lightsaber can't cut this much red tape.

    • @Blutwind
      @Blutwind 2 года назад +59

      Esp. if its blade,color and energy output are not fine tuned to the Imperial standarts for red tape cutting plasma blades!

    • @Lobsterwithinternet
      @Lobsterwithinternet 2 года назад +29

      @@Blutwind Why else do you think Palpatine stopped using one after Return of the Sith?

    • @clayblaze1327
      @clayblaze1327 2 года назад +14

      Ahh at least there’s not as much red tape in real politics, ohhhhh wait🙄😂

    • @thecoroner2650
      @thecoroner2650 2 года назад +2

      You underestimate my power!

    • @Lobsterwithinternet
      @Lobsterwithinternet 2 года назад +1

      @@thecoroner2650 Don't try it!

  • @graxon29
    @graxon29 2 года назад +246

    Imagine working in the bureau of standards and getting the memo that you have to change everything in the files to BBY and ABY

    • @Lobsterwithinternet
      @Lobsterwithinternet 2 года назад +51

      At least somebody's getting a hefty bonus.

    • @GenerationTech
      @GenerationTech  2 года назад +88

      Reminds me of y2k

    • @tba113
      @tba113 2 года назад +67

      You mean, a steady job that everyone expects to happen completely in the background, will take years to complete, makes me a low priority for rebel terror attacks, keeps me off of most bounty hunters' hit lists, and means I won't get posted to suicidal jobs like dealing with zombie bioweapons or man-eating bears?
      That's not a bad offer, all things considered. It's boring, sure, but at the same time, it's basically a slow lottery win.

    • @davechan8613
      @davechan8613 2 года назад +21

      @@GenerationTech Cyril looks like he has a case of the Mondays.

    • @smokeyhoodoo
      @smokeyhoodoo 2 года назад +8

      This is the kind of thing you write a script for

  • @Swisba
    @Swisba 2 года назад +103

    "Be aware of those who are afraid of a little disorder, be afraid of those who cannot find comfort in their own life and must intrude in others. Be aware of those who seek perfection in everything in the world around them." Damn good words GenTech.

    • @offfire2528
      @offfire2528 2 года назад +2

      unfortunately, that is a good description for me and friends.

    • @XCHDragox115
      @XCHDragox115 2 года назад +2

      This man just described my Asian parents...damn that's deep

    • @jdee8407
      @jdee8407 2 года назад +1

      Thats all around us these days. when they tell you to put on a mask and not allow people to even question why.

    • @dragonfell5078
      @dragonfell5078 Год назад

      @@jdee8407 I mean the answer to that question is obvious, to limit the spread of COVID-19. You wouldn't walk into a cloud of Mustard gas without a gas mask.

  • @joshuam.6027
    @joshuam.6027 2 года назад +132

    The worldbuilding detail that Andor's just offering alone is just intriguing and fascinating, it breaths the universe of Star Wars shed new light on it beyond the classic eternal moral conflict of the Jedi and the Sith. If they don't mind, I would love to see more of this side of Star Wars.

  • @felicitys3621
    @felicitys3621 2 года назад +358

    Man I love how much worldbuilding this show did. Beach resorts, new types of music, an inside look at The Empire, a look at the Imperial senate, news stations, 9-5s, it all feels so real

    • @brettstarks1846
      @brettstarks1846 2 года назад +42

      Likewise. We already have plenty of action-packed Star Wars movies and shows. It’s nice to have a slow burn type of show that really explores the Star Wars universe and daily life.

    • @falk2595
      @falk2595 2 года назад +21

      cool flag! what country is that

    • @vanbogan3712
      @vanbogan3712 2 года назад +3

      @@falk2595 lol

    • @rinsekai
      @rinsekai 2 года назад +33

      @@falk2595 idk but they have the prettiest women

    • @bighomieq2284
      @bighomieq2284 2 года назад +3

      @@rinsekai cap

  • @Dismythed
    @Dismythed 2 года назад +31

    "Why is everybody in Star Wars always salvaging things?"
    You have led a very sheltered life, my friend. Every blue collar worker performs salvage in some way.

  • @IsaacKuo
    @IsaacKuo 2 года назад +56

    Another detail about Ferrix ... as Luthen is traveling to Ferrix, we meet a _tourist_ ... as mediocre as Ferrix seems, by local standards it's still a cool place to visit. Cool enough to have a relatively fancy hotel.
    This goes some way to explain why Maarva and Clem decided to settle down there. Maybe it's not the fanciest place to settle down, but it's pretty fancy by local standards, and it's what they could afford with their big score.
    Of course, Cassian's big score was a lot bigger, so he thought he could bring Maarva and B2 to a much nicer comfortable save place to retire to. Cassian was so freaking happy and joyous thinking he could return Maarva's favor from back when she saved his life. He thought that he really made it. He thought he was going to make his mother so proud. And she was proud.
    But you could see Cassian's face when she unknowningly praised him for Aldani. He was expecting her to be proud of him but ... not that way.

    • @jeffengel2607
      @jeffengel2607 2 года назад +16

      I loved that scene. It's the only time Diego Luna has played Cassian as looking _young_.

  • @alessiodecarolis
    @alessiodecarolis 2 года назад +57

    For the first time we see(finally!) the amount of personnel needed for the "menial" dayly tasks of admistrating a star-spanning Empire. It's something that too many people forget, imagine how difficult is collecting data from different worlds. Only a psycopath such as Palpatine could think about totally control such an immense Galaxy.

  • @owenchan8431
    @owenchan8431 2 года назад +64

    I have to say moving from the bureau of standards to the theme of human necessity of freedom is very poetic.

  • @williamheath7058
    @williamheath7058 2 года назад +56

    I love how you can see he doesn't want to fall into the system he can't not be different he has to have some kind of status or job that he feels requires the best of him

    • @Wynneception
      @Wynneception 2 года назад +14

      And this is shown by that detail of him always tailoring his outfit. He’s never soulless. He has to stand out

  • @jessetkogel2603
    @jessetkogel2603 2 года назад +85

    I would literally need hours to find my working place there and imagine working side by side with others for years and don't talking to each other.

    • @Lobsterwithinternet
      @Lobsterwithinternet 2 года назад +11

      You're acting like that wouldn't be an introvert’s wet dream.

    • @pw6002
      @pw6002 2 года назад +7

      @@Lobsterwithinternet
      Introvert is the new cool, apparently…
      Kind of sad.

    • @nikoclesceri2267
      @nikoclesceri2267 2 года назад +3

      It’s just like being a goth, or quirky, an empath. It’s just a thing to say that makes you feel different and better than everyone else.

    • @pw6002
      @pw6002 2 года назад +4

      @@nikoclesceri2267
      Yeah, that’s what it seems.
      I see a lot of people online always posting memes about the fact that they would be introverts.
      Real introverts don’t brag about their « introvertness »… they just live their lives according to it.

    • @lolmeme69_
      @lolmeme69_ 2 года назад +6

      @@pw6002 I mean, I don't doubt that they are introverts. 50% of the world are introverts (and the other 50% are extroverts obviously). But yes you are right, most introverts just live their lives like any other, and are normal people. Some are even charming and social, despite, or even aided by their introversion.
      People who brag about being introverted often suffer from the same issues as extroverted people who are social outcasts. It's just that online, they are much more vocal about it and fall into a weird tribalist idea that introverts are oppressed when a. there are extroverts that are just as much outcasts as them, and b. the social system that sometimes excludes these people were made both introverts and extroverts. Introversion versus extroversion is really irrelevant, and honestly has very little bearing on someone's social status, their intelligence, their creativity, their social skills, and their probability of success.

  • @SpottedHares
    @SpottedHares 2 года назад +197

    Looking at the real world, the ottoman knew exactly how far their army could march on their show before they needed replacement. So they could calculate exactly how many cobblers they would need and how much material they would need in order to get their army from A to B. And those cobblers need to make those shoes to minimum quality standard or else that solider would be slowed or not in as peek condition for fighting.

    • @TheTrueAdept
      @TheTrueAdept 2 года назад +34

      ... and people forget that beuacracy _scales_ with the technological context to provide a baseline to a civilization. Anyone that willingly forgets this is basically out to get your rights, so to speak.

    • @cane6074
      @cane6074 2 года назад +5

      That's what made the original trilogy so great, they convey so much info yet said so little, a lot the information is mention in passing. The MCU could learn from this, but its marvel studios and by extension Disney, so no dice there.

    • @TheNorthie
      @TheNorthie 2 года назад +21

      The US during WW2 also did this with their logistics. They had to make sure whatever they sent thousands of miles away needed to work every single time. And they needed the supplies and extra parts for every tank, vehicle and weapon for their troops.

    • @nicholashodges201
      @nicholashodges201 2 года назад +20

      @@TheNorthie those extra parts were the real secret weapon. For every Sherman that got put on a chassis the were *two* more full tanks worth of parts getting cranked out next to it.
      I remember reading a German officer's memoir of the war and finding a barn Americans had been using during the battle of the bulge. He saw all the spare parts for *everything* and the drums of fuel he knew his side was toast

    • @TheNorthie
      @TheNorthie 2 года назад +7

      @@nicholashodges201 there are stories of German quartermasters and supply officers fighting over spare parts at their own depots. The Tiger gets glammed up as a great tank, but the logistics nightmare behind it was horrific. Panthers had their drive wheels give out after 400km, and that was the upgrade.

  • @rexlumontad5644
    @rexlumontad5644 2 года назад +35

    2:56 General Omar Bradley: "Amateurs talk strategy. Professionals talk logistics."

  • @cane6074
    @cane6074 2 года назад +20

    What I found interesting was soon after the Major congratulated Dedra, he told her to watch her to watch her back. That implies that despite being under the command to the major, Blevin has more power then his position would typical allow due to being backed by powerful interests, that being he is a member of powerful core world family or a has powerful patrons sponsoring his career in exchange for helping them, that means chances are good he will create trouble for her down the line, seeing her as a threat and just for revenge. It also means the major has to treat him with kid cloves despite him being technical subordinate.

    • @theempiredidnothingwrong3227
      @theempiredidnothingwrong3227 2 года назад +13

      Or ya know ISB politics tend to turn lethal especially for the newbie who just made everyone else look bad.

  • @Uberdude6666
    @Uberdude6666 2 года назад +26

    Ah yes, I hate it when I try organizing an insurrection, but then the pirates who were supposed to deliver the weapons use a different calendar than me and all the guns arrive after the rebels have already been arrested :/

    • @GenerationTech
      @GenerationTech  2 года назад +14

      Tell me about it… gotta just do stuff yourself sometimes

  • @fakenews.
    @fakenews. 2 года назад +14

    I came for the "LOL bureaucracy... am i rite?!?!" but instead got a deep, insightful, and intelligent breakdown of how societies achieve stability through bottom-up emergent order. Well done Alan!

  • @kaihinyung6230
    @kaihinyung6230 2 года назад +25

    Great video! I’ll have to say I’m one of those who is interested in the machinery of bureaucracy and administration. They are the bearings and vital components that makes machines run. I agree it’s not necessary bureaucrats to take control, but no nation/republic can run smoothly without the help of bureaucrats and administrators.

  • @ohkaygoplay
    @ohkaygoplay 2 года назад +13

    Considering it's been a nightmare for me to establish a galactic standard time in my world while taking various planetary rotation cycles into account - say you're 31 on one planet, but 28 on another, and 39 on another - This is really helpful. I didn't even think about having a dedicated organization to control various measurements, including time. You have no idea how many headaches I gave myself to come up with the difference of how GST is different from TST (terran standard time). GST is based on the main human homeworld's cycle - 28 hours in a day, 5 weeks in a month, 388 days in a year, the extra days also being holidays, naming the months so my characters have actual birthdays, ect...
    Seriously, these videos explaining general logistics I find extremely boring are really helpful in worldbuilding. Thank you. :)
    If someone says writing sci-fi of any kind (hard sci-fi or sci-fi fantasy like mine) is easy, I'd like to respectfully slap them with a trout.

  • @CrimsonTemplar2
    @CrimsonTemplar2 2 года назад +67

    I’m curious to see where Cyril’s story goes. My assumption is he’ll find some discrepancy that will eventually lead him into Dedra’s orbit.

    • @Icariusinfinium
      @Icariusinfinium 2 года назад +4

      That is what I am assuming as well

    • @airistal
      @airistal 2 года назад +6

      And then the system turns on them chews them up and spits them out. Afterward their combined experience with Casein leads them to him where they have the choice to take revenge for his involvement or work with him.

    • @jedironin380
      @jedironin380 2 года назад +2

      What if... Cyril's managing of files attracts the attention of Mon Mothma? He winds up managing files on her "innocent past-time" activities, all the while unknowingly enabling her rise to authority in the growing rebellion? 😉

    • @michaelshigetani433
      @michaelshigetani433 2 года назад +3

      Fuel purity. If I recall right, "Rebels" just stole a bunch of ships for the Rebellion. One would assume they'd steal the fuel too. It occurs to me that one way to concel fuel theft (which the Rebellion will HAVE to do, ) is to dilute it somehow. just a thought of what he could notice.

    • @Legomax18
      @Legomax18 2 года назад

      not a bad prediction

  • @celebrim1
    @celebrim1 2 года назад +12

    The thing about Palpatine is that he inherited a galaxy that was ready for a ruler and yearned for one. And he set himself up the perfect excuse for assuming rulership of the galaxy. It should have been easy to set up an empire that would have lasted a thousand years.
    Instead, it only lasted about 20 years because Palpatine was a violent sociopath that, when freed of his own fear became freed of all restraint and proved to be his own undoing. If he'd funded the COMPNOR subadult program to bring galactic wide education, the outer rim would have reluctantly loved him - while taking in indoctrination that meant their kids or grandkids would have worshiped him as a god. Instead, he put the galaxy in the hands of his spy agency and his shock troops and told them to be utterly ruthless.

    • @ladygrey7425
      @ladygrey7425 2 года назад

      Correct. Rarely are there good kings. Most are mediocre, and a few are monsters. If the galaxy had someone like Marcus Aurelius or Cyrus, that man or woman would have been revered for millenia.

    • @awicken4061
      @awicken4061 2 года назад +1

      But he could have succeeded if he'd kept to the plan despite the provocations of the nascent Rebellion.
      1: weed out Republican loyalists from the central bureaucracy;
      2: expand imperial influence regionally as planetary systems "fail" (e.g. replace company security forces company planet by planet)
      3: allow local customs and traditions to atrophy by providing secure (if dull) employment and luxuries
      4: crack down on crime to provide prison labour.
      Everything is slow, and happens to folks who deserve it (company security has unsolved murders, street criminals arrested, etc), so the bulk of folks who just want their green milk just live their lives.
      The attack on the vault provoked an overreaction that sped up the process to a noticable level. It also stressed the legal and prison areas of the bureaucracy. If the ISB had focused on integrating biometric ID systems across investigation services, local law enforcement, and the galactic prison system, he'd have been identified before mounting the escape. No escape, no Scarif. No Scarif, Yavin go boom. Yavin go boom, no more Rebel Alliance.

  • @greasehardbody4018
    @greasehardbody4018 2 года назад +6

    I'm really grateful that you made that community poll asking why people hadn't seen the show. Had I not taken the time to consider why I wasn't watching Andor and seen how high your opinion was of it, I definitely wouldn't have given it a chance, and I would've missed out on what has quickly become one of my favorite pieces of Star Wars media ever.

  • @glenn_r_frank_author
    @glenn_r_frank_author 2 года назад +57

    You would think the Bureau of Standards would realize the inefficiency of their cubicle layout could be improved greatly by simply grouping four of them together without walkway between all of them.

    • @StoriesByDighe
      @StoriesByDighe 2 года назад +12

      lol that’s what we do, right? God I hate cubicles

    • @theempiredidnothingwrong3227
      @theempiredidnothingwrong3227 2 года назад +24

      He says as if massive bureaucracies are known for being efficient.

    • @thuranz2773
      @thuranz2773 2 года назад +6

      @@theempiredidnothingwrong3227 and this is an Imperial bureau on top of that.

  • @m8_flicks
    @m8_flicks 2 года назад +1

    "Fun" fact: The National Bureau of Standards (USA) had an 'Advisory Committee on Uranium' during WW2 that had the task of investigating whether Uranium could really be weaponized. So they were also participants in laying the institutional framework of the creation of a super-weapon. (National Bureau of Standards - Advisory Committee on Uranium -> Office of Scientific Research and Development ->S-1 Executive Committee---->Manhattan-project)

  • @MarcoCarag
    @MarcoCarag 2 года назад +8

    Brilliant video on the precarious balance between predictable and reliable order, and the intrinsic freedom of tolerating diversity. I came here expecting a deep dive into Andor's unparalleled level of detail, and am walking away with a refreshed worldview and an even more amazed impression of what this show has been giving us.

  • @legendtrainerdj0427
    @legendtrainerdj0427 2 года назад +14

    Always love y’all’s takes and info! Thanks for making these!

  • @chrisaguilera1564
    @chrisaguilera1564 2 года назад +9

    For the first time I feel that this is the first real representation of real world aesthetics that I've seen in Star Wars since the prequels, sequels completely ignored it. If this isn't real Star Wars then what is?

  • @multipass113
    @multipass113 2 года назад +15

    Syril Karn has been the hardest character to read so far.
    Now in that sea of BoS cubicles, he’s also gonna be harder to find.
    Dammit.

  • @TheAJP
    @TheAJP 2 года назад +19

    Anyone notice in episode 7 before we see Andors mum for the last time she is holding a blaster. Could mean she died shortly after Andors departure

    • @ironfist7789
      @ironfist7789 2 года назад +4

      Nah she won that fight ;)

    • @NoRedFear
      @NoRedFear 2 года назад +5

      She had the blaster near herself at night when he visited and I think in the first arc the blaster wasn't so far either

    • @MingOnUTube
      @MingOnUTube 2 года назад +9

      @@NoRedFear No shots are wasted in this show. She might not die right after but she probably will die later fighting the empire.

    • @NoRedFear
      @NoRedFear 2 года назад +1

      @@MingOnUTube agreed, i would bet on before rogue one, otherwise before the empire strikes back that's for sure
      I just wanted to point out thar her having the blaster would necessarily mean death but active fight instead of just protecting herself

    • @thitran1362
      @thitran1362 2 года назад

      @@MingOnUTube in the trailer we see that the locals are protesting/fighting against the imperial troops. So that is where his mom will die.

  • @yo_boi_john4471
    @yo_boi_john4471 2 года назад +14

    Thank you for explaining the standards of time and date.

  • @wahn10
    @wahn10 2 года назад +3

    The most intelligent and interesting Star Wars-related RUclips channel I've encountered.
    And an amazing that this show can make the inner workings of a bureaucracy into great storytelling and world building.

  • @Bob-ct7zt
    @Bob-ct7zt 2 года назад +23

    The bureau of standards invented BBY way before the Battle of Yavin actually took place

    • @airistal
      @airistal 2 года назад +7

      He said that BBY/ABY was standardized after the restoration of the republic. It's only recognized before hand on our end.

  • @johnmccarron7066
    @johnmccarron7066 2 года назад +2

    You mentioning how we only see people scrapping things in the Star Wars universe actually tweaked an interesting parallel I saw in Andor; The only place in the series where we see people producing something is in a prison. The only industrial people we see on the outside who are only able to make a living by scrapping things. The prison was where things of 'value' were produced, while the 'free' people we saw were only able to survive by destroying things other people produced.

  • @MegaWizard79
    @MegaWizard79 2 года назад +30

    If I ever watched this show, it would be solely to watch scenes dealing with the hard numbers and how the bureaucracy works in the Star Wars universe.

  • @skturbo107
    @skturbo107 2 года назад +2

    “Sergeant Tactical Blueberry”
    Oh my god, he *does* look like a tactical blueberry.

  • @TheNorthie
    @TheNorthie 2 года назад +11

    This is me when I explain why the logistical systems of countries in WW2 led to their inevitable defeat or victory.

  • @human151
    @human151 2 года назад

    Any RUclipsr that can make an almost 13 minute video about the fictional bureau of standards has talent but one that can keep it interesting is an amazing storyteller teller. Thank you for this.

  • @AGrumpyPanda
    @AGrumpyPanda 2 года назад +2

    The reason we see so many people scavenging is because if they were part of the developed regions of the Empire, they'd just be buying those same components from your local Palp-o-Mart. Even in my current job (drone maintenance) we do a lot of salvaging because if the parts from two broken drones makes one working drone plus spares, that saves the company a $50 purchase.

  • @lsemaldokhar4154
    @lsemaldokhar4154 2 года назад +3

    What if Dedra ends up being a turncoat? She understands how the rebels think, so it wouldn’t be a stretch to think that thru working for it, she may start to realize the system she is a part of may actually be the problem rather than the solution. She would be the perfect mole for the rebels if she did, with expanded access to military assets she could be how the rebels get their capital ships. Or perhaps she is the reason the Empire loses a large number of ships to the rebels at once, or even better she anticipates the attack and actually uses her new access to its full extent. Her thread has me hooked right now, I can’t wait to see where it goes.

  • @Snipe4261
    @Snipe4261 2 года назад +2

    I think that people generally severely underestimate the importance of bureaucracy because they don't understand it and dislike it. That's understandable, but consider: bureaucracy is the only means by which a group of people which is too large for individuals to know one another personally can still work effectively together towards a common goal. Bureaucracy is 100% necessary for civilization to even exist. As a matter of fact, the ancient Sumerians invented bureaucracy immediately upon inventing written language and that enabled them to build their cities in Lower Mesopotamia into the largest in the world, with tens of thousands of people living and working together - during the stone age. People seem to equate bureaucracy with corruption, which is understandable because a poorly functioning bureaucracy can allow corruption to exist, and corruption is the cancer that will kill any system, be it a government, company, or other organization. But it is corruption that destroys, while bureaucracy is an inherent and necessary component of a complex system.

  • @KingCobraLolcow
    @KingCobraLolcow 2 года назад +7

    Interesting, never thought of it that way

  • @SubtleArboreal
    @SubtleArboreal 2 года назад +1

    "The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers"

  • @Farlomous
    @Farlomous 2 года назад +7

    speaking of Chancellor Valorum, would have been awesome if he was the friend that Mon Mothma was speaking to at her dinner? party and then been the one to secretly help fund the Alliance

    • @karlrovey
      @karlrovey 2 года назад

      Except he as assassinated during the clone wars (arranged by Palpatine).

    • @Farlomous
      @Farlomous 2 года назад

      @@karlrovey do you know what episode, I've looked all over for his death, and haven't been able to find it. the only thing I have found was the Yoda went to him looking for information on Sifo-dyas.

    • @karlrovey
      @karlrovey 2 года назад +1

      @@Farlomous I believe it is officially legends now. If they really wanted to, they could bring back Valorum, but it would be better if he stayed dead.

  • @MrHereWeGoYo
    @MrHereWeGoYo 2 года назад

    Man, you are an endless well of lore and insight. 😎 Thanks for helping tie all this stuff together.
    We were also treated to more great character interaction. Cassian and Maarva, Cassian and Bix. Mon Mothma and Tay. The ISB briefing where Meero has her moment. All extremely well-written. Especially Mon Mothma & Tay. Can't forget Luthen. The way he jumps in and out of character is a joy to watch.

  • @views4rmthasix596
    @views4rmthasix596 2 года назад +8

    I knew an optimistic character like Nemik wouldn’t live through the heist. But how & when he died was shocking N sad. I really wanted the kid to live tho I knew he’d become a martyr for the rebellion.

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 2 года назад +1

      He was otherwise a perfect person for the rebellion. He was interested enough intellectually to write a manifesto. He was interested enough to learn how to shoot. He was otherwise competent. And unsecured credits killed him before the rebel forces congealed and took off as shown in Rogue One. That should not have been how he went out.

  • @charlesshirk8699
    @charlesshirk8699 2 года назад +1

    I really liked this. I can relate. I have worked in a city refuse dept keeping track of the amount of waste and cost to dispose of it for over 30 years. I am happy in my job.

  • @1dgram
    @1dgram 2 года назад +1

    For some the Bureau of Standards would be a fascinating place to work. The importance of the bureau should not be understated. But it's clearly not the place for many.

  • @zachbeaudoin4884
    @zachbeaudoin4884 2 года назад +2

    “Sgt. Tactical Blueberry” lmfao

  • @joshelguapo5563
    @joshelguapo5563 2 года назад +1

    Im from Colorado and have had a few professors work at NIST, a lot of it involves getting precise measurements of fundamental constants which can be exciting work. They are a science lab as well so they do experiment on a wide variety of topics. I would actually love to work for NIST, I would imagine the bureau of standards would be a good job too. Probably super easy, well paying, and you don't have to worry about your boss shooting you in the back of the head

  • @ahmikjones
    @ahmikjones 2 года назад +2

    I am a relatively new subscriber and just wanted to say that I have been really enjoying your videos.

  • @ronniabati
    @ronniabati 2 года назад +5

    Interesting analysis… the Empire micromanaged itself to an inevitable collapse 🤔

  • @andrewshandle
    @andrewshandle 2 года назад +2

    Cyrill is such a stickler, you think he might not only like the role, but excel at it because he finds it rewarding. He'd be the kind of guy who puts 110% into the job and be promoted in a few months. I'm curious how they will take his story because clearly that wouldn't work for the narrative.

  • @davidfoster7034
    @davidfoster7034 2 года назад +2

    The shear amount of scrapping in starwars speaks to the odd economy of the starwars universe. Where it seems not nearly enough civilian craft are made to meet market demand. Perhaps this is intentional.
    Shipyards create military craft to add to the massive number of extant military hulls and are sold to rebels, pirates, secret armies, planetary governments or galactic militaries the ship sees some service but it seems in all likelyness that the real profit lies in selling and scrapping the ship and selling the components to maintain the massively underserved civilian market.
    Arguably this serves the needs of the galactic economy by supplying a large sectory employing people well beyond what a few civilian craft factories might provide.

  • @bigcazza5260
    @bigcazza5260 2 года назад

    love how u fuck with us on the intro to keep us on our toes, this channel is the best star wars channel, star wars theory is great too but i prefer allan's presentation style, and the editing here is top notch

  • @KrazyStargazer
    @KrazyStargazer 2 года назад

    A little bit of chaos, spontaneity and freedom can go a long way.
    Trying to organize everything down to the most minute detail hardly ever pans out.

  • @adgreenfield
    @adgreenfield 2 года назад

    Old guy here; the TAXI reference gave me a legit lol. Love the channel!

  • @an0gr0br
    @an0gr0br 2 года назад +2

    I get strong “Central Bureaucracy” from Futurama vibes from the good ol’ Imperial Bureau of Standards

  • @Т1000-м1и
    @Т1000-м1и 2 года назад +1

    Footage of Orwellian systems is always interesting to watch. It has the shock value, but also peacefulness on different levels

  • @AceSpadeThePikachu
    @AceSpadeThePikachu 2 года назад

    I do love how that Bureau scene felt like a subtle homage to the movie Brazil.

  • @Interitus1
    @Interitus1 2 года назад +2

    Can we talk about how much of Canada you annexed in that map?

  • @K_LeShaeya
    @K_LeShaeya 2 года назад +1

    Honestly when Mon Mothma said "people will suffer for this" when talking to Luthen, I was like ... "People have been suffering for years at this point in Andor, and now you're gonna worry about it?"

  • @miguelpadeiro762
    @miguelpadeiro762 2 года назад

    Whenever I heard "Uncle Harlo" I for some reason couldn't stop thinking of Uncle Leo from Seinfeld
    A little part of me wanted him to go "Syril...he-llo!" in his debut scene...I still do since we haven't seen him yet

  • @kivimik
    @kivimik 2 года назад +2

    Do I detect a possible influence from the film, Brazil, in Andor?

  • @fdsajfldaskjf
    @fdsajfldaskjf 2 года назад +52

    THE EMPIRE WILL FAIL. Return of the Jedi already showed us why.

  • @ADavid42
    @ADavid42 2 года назад

    Nice work as usual. It's fantastic how the GFFA is now so incredibly close to us.

  • @SunWarrior155
    @SunWarrior155 2 года назад +2

    Describing the Kaminoans as "bipedal dolphins" was lowkey brilliant.

  • @jedironin380
    @jedironin380 2 года назад +1

    Without the Bureau of Standards the whole dang opry would fall apart! :D
    Having worked in a "cube farm" for a few years, I feel they vastly misrepresented the floors of the Bureau, though. There are ALWAYS people talking to others in other cubes, always people moving around on various errands, and a general hum of activity overlaying the whole thing.

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion 2 года назад +5

    Why Palpatine tried to put Sith ideology into the Empire's population, especially within the military? Didn't he know that he should kept his beliefs in the Sith just between him and his apprentice?

    • @delta.6160
      @delta.6160 2 года назад +1

      I don’t know if Palpatine did that deliberately. It might’ve happened slowly over time due to the galaxy being forced to live under autocracy for many years. People might’ve slowly started to distrust each other more since their previously trusted institutions (the senate, chancellor, jedi, multi planetary corporations etc) made it ever clear they weren’t out to help them. (The Jedi we’re the best intentioned but they were somewhat elitist, insular, and overly loyal to the corrupt republic and military establishment. And they were framed by Palpatine so most of the galactic population began to hate them by the end of the clone wars).

  • @thomasglieden171
    @thomasglieden171 2 года назад

    Thank you for doing this video and explaining what we saw in the show and how also relates to our real world.

  • @onetruekeeper
    @onetruekeeper 2 года назад

    I believe that in a scene in Star Wars episode 3 , General Taggi at a meeting with Gov. Tarkin and the other officials at that big round table at the Death Star, when informed by Tarkin that the Imperial Senate was dissolved by the Emperor Gen. Taggi wanted to know how the Emperor could maintain control without the Bureaucracy. Gov. Tarkin explained that Regional Governors will have complete control over their territories.

  • @donaldfarquar
    @donaldfarquar 2 года назад +1

    Kind of assumed the battle of yavin was for our reference.
    Not sure the Empire would reset the whole calender because some kids and a wizard blew up a space station.
    Also always found it odd it wasn't the battle of endor used, which had a far bigger and longer lasting impact.

  • @RoyCyberPunk
    @RoyCyberPunk 2 года назад +56

    Its quite amazing how Palpatine was a genius in how to seize power for himself but a complete 0 to the left in maintaining his own empire.
    Like his mind was only focused on seizing power but after he got it he had no plans besides being a man baby with too much power and not really knowing what to do with it besides his own short term ambitions.

    • @amilcaraguirre6600
      @amilcaraguirre6600 2 года назад +33

      Which is kinda the point of the Dark Side

    • @CedarHunt
      @CedarHunt 2 года назад +26

      Makes sense, the skills and drivers that are needed to seize power are almost never the skills and drivers needed to govern effectively. It's one of the reasons that the revolutionaries are often the first against the wall after a successful coup.

    • @Knightwolf1994
      @Knightwolf1994 2 года назад +1

      So he's basically every dictator in history. They're good at machiavellism and gaining power yet terrible at actually governing.

    • @RoyCyberPunk
      @RoyCyberPunk 2 года назад +11

      @@Knightwolf1994
      Arguably Pinochet did succeed in making Chile an economic juggernaut. And Marcus Aurelius was called the philosopher king for a reason. But yeah those are the exceptions not the rule

    • @ladygrey7425
      @ladygrey7425 2 года назад +7

      Hence why he never chose an heir. He was so fucking convinced that he was going to become God that he neglected his own legacy and that of his forebears, and it all crashed down around his wrinkled head.

  • @nonagrey3422
    @nonagrey3422 2 года назад +1

    Kleya looking amazing in that crimson cloak

  • @robertcain4320
    @robertcain4320 2 года назад

    A long time ago, I walked into the Defense Logistics Agency (a weird replica for the Empire's Bureau of Standards). I remember having my soul ripped out of my body, and felt a continuous sinking into the mire of 'quality control'. It took years to rip myself from the system, and now I am happily retired. If a medical office asks me to fill out a form with info that I gave the last time I visited, I just put nonsense into the spaces. NO ONE LOOKS!!!!!!!!!!! One office wanted me to snap my photo with their ipad, so instead a gave them an image of a hand puppet. DEATH TO THE EMPIRE...even it is in small ways and purposeful mis-directions.

  • @ThatCaymanGuy
    @ThatCaymanGuy 2 года назад

    Very cool and informative! Thanks Allen!

  • @Subject82
    @Subject82 2 года назад

    The Bureau of Standards and Syril's story line gives such a Matrix/ Sci-Fi/Cyberpunk/Blade Runner vibe.
    Imperial Coruscant also gives a very Blad Runner feel and the brutalist architecture gives a very totalitarian vibe.

  • @thearikes
    @thearikes 2 года назад +4

    My biggest takeaway from this episode is that Jewish moms are a universal constant!

  • @wahn10
    @wahn10 2 года назад +1

    Calling Emperor Palpatine "super toxic" was a good belly laugh. Cuz really, he is. 🤣

  • @sydt7104
    @sydt7104 2 года назад

    4:08 possible Thrawn to the left?
    or just blue lighting?

  • @johannesbowers7467
    @johannesbowers7467 2 года назад

    "How Hermes Requisitioned his Groove Back" ~Futurama~
    Karn inside the Central Beuraucracy is juuuuust poetic.

  • @VictorSanchez-eu7sk
    @VictorSanchez-eu7sk Год назад +1

    I got more of a dystopic vibe in the Bureau of standard, than I did on Neomos

  • @mackenziebeeney3764
    @mackenziebeeney3764 2 года назад +1

    That ending was way too on point and poignant for this channel. I approve.

  • @potato88872
    @potato88872 2 года назад +1

    Don't forget how much of a number you are when you work there
    No wonder he become so obseded with cassian andor

  • @milotura6828
    @milotura6828 2 года назад

    the comparison of the corporations to healthy bacteria was great.

  • @michaelmcclaryjr3752
    @michaelmcclaryjr3752 2 года назад +1

    one person's thankless dead end job is a nother bill paid. he should be grateful that he has a job

  • @craig.a.glesner
    @craig.a.glesner 2 года назад +1

    I play and write in the TRAVELLER science-fiction TRPG who have as a major part of its empire the Office of Calendar Compliance so this shit is right up my ally. It helps to have Bureaucracy-4. :) Digging the breakdown, keep it coming.

  • @shewmonohoto
    @shewmonohoto 2 года назад

    There is an old saying, 'Those that can, do... those that can't, teach...' life experience has taught me that there is an addendum to the idiom , 'those that can't think, become Bureaucrats' ....
    Cyril failed as a bureaucrat, simply because he can 'think', and he actually can 'do' (though those qualities seem to work against each other for him, most of the time).

  • @donaldsmith8648
    @donaldsmith8648 2 года назад +3

    My favorite channel and I'm generation tech

  • @Henry_Varro
    @Henry_Varro 2 года назад +11

    Alright you convinced me I'll watch Andor. Disney has really killed my once beloved interest in Star Wars starting with the new trilogy and their projects beyond other than Clone Wars of course. However the grounded view, and feel along with all the intrigue plus the cat, and mouse feel I get from the few Andor videos I've watched of yours I'll give it a chance.

    • @GenerationTech
      @GenerationTech  2 года назад +7

      gooood (Palpatine voice) no seriously this is a great show

    • @lamarravery4094
      @lamarravery4094 2 года назад

      It moves kinda slow, but it grows on you and winds up being really really good.

  • @aoconnor2933
    @aoconnor2933 2 года назад +1

    First job in the Marine Corps was metrology (not to be confused with meteorology), and this is exactly the type of stuff we'd focus on among many other areas of measurement 😅 ...a few years later I ran to the infantry. ...twice. I'm an idiot lol

  • @natalieable8463
    @natalieable8463 2 года назад

    This is one of the best Star Wars analysis videos I've ever seen. Excellent insight on the empire, all of its agencies and its eventual demise. Great comment on how the republic lasted for so long because it was laissez-faire.

  • @cjgonz2004
    @cjgonz2004 2 года назад

    The way I understood "A New Hope", it seemed the Emperor was turning the Empire into a feudal system. With the Death Star, he planned to keep the local systems in line without the main bureaucracy.

  • @hellfish2309
    @hellfish2309 2 года назад +4

    “Tantalizing video”? What do you think this is? ‘Weights and Gauges’?

    • @Lobsterwithinternet
      @Lobsterwithinternet 2 года назад +1

      Well, it sure isn't IEEE Communications Standards Magazine. Or even something sexy like IAEI ( International Association of Electrical Inspectors) Magazine. 🦞😎

    • @GenerationTech
      @GenerationTech  2 года назад +4

      This comment will be forwarded to the department of redundancies and verification

  • @lukedalton
    @lukedalton 2 года назад +1

    Nice taxi reference...but now i feeeel old

  • @TheHonoredMadman
    @TheHonoredMadman 2 года назад

    I was trying my best to wait for the whole season to be out but I caved haha

  • @caplevi148
    @caplevi148 2 года назад +3

    Love the politics so interesting helps ground everything