I remember when Ronnie Scotts used to be in Gerrad Street. Turn left down a cul-de-sac beside Ronnies in Frith St., and you come to the back door of what used to be The Marquee. We used to park the van here while we unloaded/loaded our equipment to gig the place. About 50 yards from the front door of The Marquee was another coffee bar called Le Bastille. They had one of the first discoteques in the basement. On Oxford Street, just east of Soho Square, and almost opposite the 100 club, was another club called The Tiles. Another basement club, but had a mock Victorian street with small boutique shops in it. I have no recollection of the Ham Yard place, though. I worked for a while in a music shop in Denman Street, and used to cut through the car park and through Ham Yard to get to a sandwich bar in Gt. Windmill St., but never realised there was a club there. That was in 1965/6. Weird. I helped Kieth Moon carry a drum kit from our shop around to a photo studio in Archer Street, which Kit Lambert rented from us as Keiths kit was being set up for a gig they had that night at the Hammersmith Odeon. He said he'd phone me when he'd finished and we'd carry it back together... But he never did, and I had to get them back myself. Cheers, Keith. Of course, it's all changed now. The music shop I worked in is now the entrance to Ham Yard mall. The Musicians Union which stood in Archer Street has gone. Another Mod venue of the time was the Bag 'O' Nails club in Kingly Street - parallel to Carnaby Street but before Regent Street. You gained some brownie points if you ever got in there as it catered to the rich & famous celebs. I'm well into my 70's now, but I still keep the flag flying. I can't ride a scooter or drive since my stroke, but I've got a mobility scooter - bedecked with whippy aerial, flags, and the obligatory fake fox tail, parka , pork pie, whistle... But you can't get the Ravel shoes of the style anymore. Thanks for the trip down memory lane. 👍🛵
Great memories ! Yes, I worked in Oxford Street, commuted through Berwick Market, Saw the Who at the Marquee also Action, Mark Leeman Five, Yardbirds etc, and The Scene with Guy Stevens in HamYard. and friendly with the Who when they were the Detours. Hair cuts at Sweeney Todds in Kingly Street ( and Glints in Sth.Moulton Street ), the Princes Club ( rogue drinking club off Regent Street ) and The Hansel next to the Palladium and Shakespeare Head in Carnaby Street. Cuban heels fron Anello and Davide in Oxford St. My stag do at Paul Raymonds Revue Bar. The Macabre Coffee Club in Meard St. Joined a police lock-in at The Pillars of Hercules in Soho. In Verrys Wine Bar in Regent Street and drank and snogged Barbara Windsor - and met many 'celebrities' during that time including Albert King, Bob Todd, Keith Emerson, Daley Thompson, Edwin Starr, Dawn French, John Cleese etc, etc. Happy days !
@@tolfan4438 Nah. Sadly my health issues deem that I'm not a particularly happy sight (I never was much to look at, anyway), and my 'performance' days are long gone. But thanks for the thought. 🙃
What an ace video .Eddie got to the juggler early in that he put The Scene club in its rightful position as the cradle of mod fashion and music in those few exciting years .Along with that iconic venue i still remember places like the coffee bars The Freight Train and Coffee Hand .Later i loved The Last Chance as it had moved on fashion wise and played great music .
good to see the "chance" gets a mention jimmy i practically lived in there in late 64/65 went to the freight train on berwick st , the coffee-ann in excel court and the macabre on the corner of meard st and wardour st what great times we had shame it didn't go on a little longer !
Had a walk round Soho today, activating the memories of my wonderful miss spent youth. The Flamingo's gone the Scene gone but the times are vivid. The week end was here The Scene was Friday and Saturday with a bag of chemical friends, the come down took you to the Flamingo Sunday afternoon where Mr Fame eased you back to work Monday morning along with an ulcerated mouth, and guess what same again next week. Have it.
Walked through carnaby st last year,its finished,like most of London,nothing but a nostalgic fantasy in people's minds,looks like any other bland,awful,overpriced global corporate high st.
Only if it's low key stuff. The clumsy Mod look looks cheesey as hell IMHO. Very cliched at this point. But the principles of Mod never go out of fashion, even if the 'uniform' does.
Love it, Eddie...;) I am the one running The Pink Panther Modcab (rickshaw) and you may well remember our chat awhile ago; Goodonya for an excellent piece...;)
Also, by mid 60's, the vent was quite long. And despite what the lads here are saying, it was, 'always. sometimes, never' around my manor. Different strokes etc.
I'm interested in the historic links between Mod and Northern Soul. Pillar is clearly a Mod from the 1950's Jazz lineage, but I'm interested to better understand how the taste in American Jazz music traversed into a taste for Soul Music. Something Pillar said earlier about London Mods going over to the States to check out the new Jazz sounds was interesting, cause the Northern Soul boys were doing the same in the late 60's and 70's to discover the latest soul sounds. So how did Mod and NS crossover ? 60's London Mod music was the Pop music of the day (bands like the Small Faces), but Northern Soul was far more underground than that, and has remained so. As a mature PhD student studying the psychology of popular culture and a big fan of Northern Soul music, I would love to hear other peoples thoughts ?
Jazz wasn't an agenda in the north.we seemed to go straight into soul music,Manchester twisted wheel,oasis clubs,lots of American soul acts in Manchester,and of course,a mix of bands like the who,faces etc,of course the mod scene was an explosion of a culture that only lasted a few years,this then seemed to diversify into northern soul.total difference in the music was predominantly black American,the centre of this was the Wigan casino.
nice to see the scene gets a mention let's not forget la discotheque and the last chance saloon ,they were just as popular back then , just the same as the scene but for some reason dont get mentioned as much
I was a barrow boy in Berwick st 1981-1983. Great atmosphere in Soho then. I don't really see myself as a follower of fashion but on the other hand l wear Fred Perry's, have had 3 lambrettas and like the Who, Kinks. Small faces etch and now at 55 l drive a mk1 cooper s with a very discreet target on it😀
Interesting little feature and finally something presented by someone who knows what they're talking about. I remember seeing Eddie Piller in an article in I think the Daily Mirror in about 1979 before he became a mod institution lol.
Nice vid Eddie, I remember you knocking about in loughton/Woodford way back in the day,also bit later Vicky with the red PK..Keep on keeping on young man.😎
I helped build the cubicles in the Scene Club, my reward I had first choice of the spent 45's. The manager was Lionel. We wore three ply tonic mohair suits and full length suides and leathers. Plus brogues from Raoul (Later Ravel).(I had a Vespa GS 160 with Chrome everywhere) Contact me if you want to know more...
Ah the scene ,what a place especially when the stones were playing , you forgot the whisky a go go on top of the flamingo as well .. for upper class mods . La discotheque where it all really started . .. those were the days I was working at Covent Garden market then , straight out of the clubs and walk into work home by 10a.m to sleep before going out again .. we used to travel in them days to the Ricky.tick and crawdaddy clubs out in the sticks were cool to ...miss it so much where’s 50 + years gone
If Alfa Romeo designed a scooter, it would look exactly like a series 3 Lambretta LI 150... and if Carlsberg designed a scooter it would look like a piece of shit, like one of those mobility scooters parked outside Wetherspoons.
John Stephen started Carnaby Street? Hmmmm.......... thought it was Vince for Men?? Stephen served his apprenticeship for Bill Green at Vinces. Great film though!! Nice suit too but......... me, I would have had a slightly longer jacket back then with a deeper vent but, well, that's how we wore 'em in Donny!!!!
he is wrong about the buttons, it is always middle, never bottom, sometimes top... unless this is a mod thing, but the rule is the way I have said it not the way he did
Another repro no count who wasn't there at the time as usual , no such thing as a mod in the 50's never mind a modernist ,keep on cashing in on the fantasy mate lol Working class teenagers on a fiver a week , living in digs and running a scooter ......yeah we were really into spending our cash on imitating American rich kids and middle aged jazzers lol cost nothing to have a rumble at Brighton...Jackanory again
So right, I'm a skinhead and from way back, this is bollocks... suits shite, shoes are all wrong...... anyway who gives a fuck. let em waffle on. Might want to wash his hair
@@johngodwin4586 How should the suit and shoes be instead? I'm getting into the style and culture but haven't invested in suits or dress shoes yet. Just sharp shirts, jumpers etc so far.
@@benelliot2214 Just by reading your comment I think you should give up this dream right away. If you have to come to a RUclips comment section for style advice you're fucked mate!
Pillar the back rest breaker . Him and mike hung around a lot together. Piller was a piss head in the eighties like the rest of our scooter club. NW Kent zodiacs we had 120 members
I remember when Ronnie Scotts used to be in Gerrad Street. Turn left down a cul-de-sac beside Ronnies in Frith St., and you come to the back door of what used to be The Marquee. We used to park the van here while we unloaded/loaded our equipment to gig the place. About 50 yards from the front door of The Marquee was another coffee bar called Le Bastille. They had one of the first discoteques in the basement. On Oxford Street, just east of Soho Square, and almost opposite the 100 club, was another club called The Tiles. Another basement club, but had a mock Victorian street with small boutique shops in it.
I have no recollection of the Ham Yard place, though. I worked for a while in a music shop in Denman Street, and used to cut through the car park and through Ham Yard to get to a sandwich bar in Gt. Windmill St., but never realised there was a club there. That was in 1965/6. Weird.
I helped Kieth Moon carry a drum kit from our shop around to a photo studio in Archer Street, which Kit Lambert rented from us as Keiths kit was being set up for a gig they had that night at the Hammersmith Odeon. He said he'd phone me when he'd finished and we'd carry it back together... But he never did, and I had to get them back myself. Cheers, Keith.
Of course, it's all changed now. The music shop I worked in is now the entrance to Ham Yard mall. The Musicians Union which stood in Archer Street has gone. Another Mod venue of the time was the Bag 'O' Nails club in Kingly Street - parallel to Carnaby Street but before Regent Street. You gained some brownie points if you ever got in there as it catered to the rich & famous celebs.
I'm well into my 70's now, but I still keep the flag flying. I can't ride a scooter or drive since my stroke, but I've got a mobility scooter - bedecked with whippy aerial, flags, and the obligatory fake fox tail, parka , pork pie, whistle... But you can't get the Ravel shoes of the style anymore. Thanks for the trip down memory lane. 👍🛵
Great memories ! Yes, I worked in Oxford Street, commuted through Berwick Market, Saw the Who at the Marquee also Action, Mark Leeman Five, Yardbirds etc, and The Scene with Guy Stevens in HamYard. and friendly with the Who when they were the Detours. Hair cuts at Sweeney Todds in Kingly Street ( and Glints in Sth.Moulton Street ), the Princes Club ( rogue drinking club off Regent Street ) and The Hansel next to the Palladium and Shakespeare Head in Carnaby Street. Cuban heels fron Anello and Davide in Oxford St. My stag do at Paul Raymonds Revue Bar. The Macabre Coffee Club in Meard St. Joined a police lock-in at The Pillars of Hercules in Soho. In Verrys Wine Bar in Regent Street and drank and snogged Barbara Windsor - and met many 'celebrities' during that time including Albert King, Bob Todd, Keith Emerson, Daley Thompson, Edwin Starr, Dawn French, John Cleese etc, etc. Happy days !
lmao....the thought of your MOBILITY SCOOTER with 6 or seven wing mirrors...fog light...AND CHROME BUBBLES ...Stay well my friend
@@thomasfisher5742 Sorry... No chrome bubbles.
You should do your own video or at least look into a collaboration your storytelling is on point
@@tolfan4438 Nah. Sadly my health issues deem that I'm not a particularly happy sight (I never was much to look at, anyway), and my 'performance' days are long gone.
But thanks for the thought. 🙃
What an ace video .Eddie got to the juggler early in that he put The Scene club in its rightful position as the cradle of mod fashion and music in those few exciting years .Along with that iconic venue i still remember places like the coffee bars The Freight Train and Coffee Hand .Later i loved The Last Chance as it had moved on fashion wise and played great music .
good to see the "chance" gets a mention jimmy i practically lived in there in late 64/65 went to the freight train on berwick st , the coffee-ann in excel court and the macabre on the corner of meard st and wardour st what great times we had shame it didn't go on a little longer !
Always love listening to Eddie pillar,hope he does more stuff like this
Had a walk round Soho today, activating the memories of my wonderful miss spent youth. The Flamingo's gone the Scene gone but the times are vivid. The week end was here The Scene was Friday and Saturday with a bag of chemical friends, the come down took you to the Flamingo Sunday afternoon where Mr Fame eased you back to work Monday morning along with an ulcerated mouth, and guess what same again next week. Have it.
You have a lot of fond memories, it sounds like, so I'm not sure it was entirely misspent.
great stuff Eddie, more please :)
love eddie pillars mod documentaries should show them on tv he's a legend
Walked through carnaby st last year,its finished,like most of London,nothing but a nostalgic fantasy in people's minds,looks like any other bland,awful,overpriced global corporate high st.
MyFactoryModels Lol 😂
If i told you where to look , youd flood it with people ,who dont know where to look ,and we would have to move on ....
Yet more Disney London bs for the tourists.
“Take a look a the great street, it don’t seem the same...”
Love this short doc, especially the background music, just right.
the brilliant mod jazz band called the Filthy Six
@@eddiepiller2126thanks, was scrolling down to find out who it was
We mods are the coolest people in the world never look out of fashion or dirty.
Only if it's low key stuff. The clumsy Mod look looks cheesey as hell IMHO. Very cliched at this point. But the principles of Mod never go out of fashion, even if the 'uniform' does.
@@wyverntheterrible It’s all about modern clothes and looking smart . It’s cringeworthy when you see everyone dressed like Weller in the 80 s
@@Mod-rw9cwor a 60 year old still trying to rock a bowl cut 🤣
Love it, Eddie...;) I am the one running The Pink Panther Modcab (rickshaw) and you may well remember our chat awhile ago; Goodonya for an excellent piece...;)
Well, Done Eddie, you covered it Beautifully xx
Great Video but i think your find the buttons go sometimes always never. Not always sometimes never
Spot on pal.
Yeah, didn't cop that first time round.
Yeah you're right... he got it wrong, pretty embarrassing
@@jordanreynolds1498 good luck telling him that! he's a fucking ego -maniac and would never admit defeat!
Also, by mid 60's, the vent was quite long. And despite what the lads here are saying, it was, 'always. sometimes, never' around my manor. Different strokes etc.
Always, sometimes, never... love it. Makes me itch to see the bottom button done up on either a jacket or a waistcoat.
Carnaby street in the 1960s wasnt nostalgic . It was right up to the minute,
I went there a few times but I wasnt a commited mod.
Great video.
Glad to see it’s still going.
Still got my scooter, still wearing my suits and the Modernists continue.
I'm interested in the historic links between Mod and Northern Soul. Pillar is clearly a Mod from the 1950's Jazz lineage, but I'm interested to better understand how the taste in American Jazz music traversed into a taste for Soul Music. Something Pillar said earlier about London Mods going over to the States to check out the new Jazz sounds was interesting, cause the Northern Soul boys were doing the same in the late 60's and 70's to discover the latest soul sounds. So how did Mod and NS crossover ? 60's London Mod music was the Pop music of the day (bands like the Small Faces), but Northern Soul was far more underground than that, and has remained so. As a mature PhD student studying the psychology of popular culture and a big fan of Northern Soul music, I would love to hear other peoples thoughts ?
Nice point Jonny, Truth be told, I can't answer it
Jazz wasn't an agenda in the north.we seemed to go straight into soul music,Manchester twisted wheel,oasis clubs,lots of American soul acts in Manchester,and of course,a mix of bands like the who,faces etc,of course the mod scene was an explosion of a culture that only lasted a few years,this then seemed to diversify into northern soul.total difference in the music was predominantly black American,the centre of this was the Wigan casino.
This is excellent Ed, really well presented. All the best, Welsh Pete.
nice to see the scene gets a mention let's not forget la discotheque and the last chance saloon ,they were just as popular back then , just the same as the scene but for some reason dont get mentioned as much
Sheven718 quite right sheven . And not one mention of dubbies we need a block up revival 😀
shorelineboy
ha ha hey we can dream shoreline lol
I came on the Mod scene in ‘65 and believe me it was always, very seldom and absolutely never. I loved a long centre vent as opposed to side vents.
No got be sides
Eddie @3:42....I always thought it was "Sometimes, always, never" ?
I was a barrow boy in Berwick st 1981-1983. Great atmosphere in Soho then. I don't really see myself as a follower of fashion but on the other hand l wear Fred Perry's, have had 3 lambrettas and like the Who, Kinks. Small faces etch and now at 55 l drive a mk1 cooper s with a very discreet target on it😀
sounds like you're a mod though
That was excellent and informative. 😁
Interesting little feature and finally something presented by someone who knows what they're talking about. I remember seeing Eddie Piller in an article in I think the Daily Mirror in about 1979 before he became a mod institution lol.
Loved this clip. Eddie would be great presenting a proper in-depth documentary on the scene. Get it on BBC4 or summat.
totally agree
im guessing you didn't turn on the fuel tap or put it on reserve, failing that it was flooded or not getting a spark....Just Sayin
no, truth was it was a borrowed lammy. was never going to work
Great film mate 👌🏾😎
Amazing video Eddie . Keep the faith ✊️
Nice vid Eddie, I remember you knocking about in loughton/Woodford way back in the day,also bit later Vicky with the red PK..Keep on keeping on young man.😎
As a 70s mod, that suit what he was wearing was a 'no no'
Daniel Dennis Who cares?
It was a 60's style suit. The 70's were about wide lapels, flared trousers and kipper ties. Yuk.
3:24 how to button a suit
Why Eddie Piller hasn't been snapped up by the BBC is beyond me. Already showing signs of being a top narrator/presenter !!
He's a white British male, over the age of 40. That'll be why...
Umskiddy totally agree
BBC is nothing more than a Tory mouthpiece
@@danielpatrick3761 actually, that's actually why
Bar Italia was always the best place to end up but Pizza Express Jazz Club was loads better than Ronnie's.
hang on, let me replay that back was he riding a scooter without the required safety of a crash helmet?
Finally got that LAMBRETTA started 😂 Go Vespa! 😉🇬🇧
I completely agree - i have vespas but they made me use the Lambretta for the shoot
I walked down Carnaby street with my parka on 1979 with the mod revival going on,was on leave from Plymouth when in the Royal Navy,happy days.
I helped build the cubicles in the Scene Club, my reward I had first choice of the spent 45's. The manager was Lionel. We wore three ply tonic mohair suits and full length suides and leathers. Plus brogues from Raoul (Later Ravel).(I had a Vespa GS 160 with Chrome everywhere) Contact me if you want to know more...
Ah the scene ,what a place especially when the stones were playing , you forgot the whisky a go go on top of the flamingo as well .. for upper class mods . La discotheque where it all really started . .. those were the days I was working at Covent Garden market then , straight out of the clubs and walk into work home by 10a.m to sleep before going out again .. we used to travel in them days to the Ricky.tick and crawdaddy clubs out in the sticks were cool to ...miss it so much where’s 50 + years gone
brilliant Jeff
U is the name of the tailor of Paul Weller?
Eddie pillar,so mod 👌
Great clip...
always went with "Sometimes, Always, Never", but maybe bc i'm American
smart vid eddie
If Alfa Romeo designed a scooter, it would look exactly like a series 3 Lambretta LI 150... and if Carlsberg designed a scooter it would look like a piece of shit, like one of those mobility scooters parked outside Wetherspoons.
made me laugh
Very entertaining. I think a Marc Powell suit starts at £2,500.
For bespoke, perhaps. But he does off-the-peg for a lot less than that (under £1000 for a three-piece, lower still for two).
Actually, from the top down, suit buttons are sometimes, always, never.
John Stephen started Carnaby Street? Hmmmm.......... thought it was Vince for Men?? Stephen served his apprenticeship for Bill Green at Vinces. Great film though!! Nice suit too but......... me, I would have had a slightly longer jacket back then with a deeper vent but, well, that's how we wore 'em in Donny!!!!
alan, thanks for putting me right. I know enough but as i was told, I wasn't there - always happy to learn - Sportique for men?
Great vid ,,,,,,such a smart look and the only way to dress in London 💥 DW
Fruit is necessary with amphetamines and vanilla hippie shakes ice cream cherry
Danny Hood oh for one more block up
bang on
Nice one 🇬🇧😉👍
Born in 1962 so technically did not experience the Mod scene at the time . Mod revival 1979 for sure
Piller what a great mod
Eddie is a mod icon ... in both clothing and music ... Broadening the spectrum with the times, which is actually the Mod philosophy ...
yes i pushed you on your Lambretta when it would not start, you don't remember that eh!
he is wrong about the buttons, it is always middle, never bottom, sometimes top... unless this is a mod thing, but the rule is the way I have said it not the way he did
DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER ZORRO RECORDS IN THE FLEA MARKET?
Bar Italia Scooter club defunct now sadly
Another repro no count who wasn't there at the time as usual , no such thing as a mod in the 50's never mind a modernist ,keep on cashing in on the fantasy mate lol Working class teenagers on a fiver a week , living in digs and running a scooter ......yeah we were really into spending our cash on imitating American rich kids and middle aged jazzers lol cost nothing to have a rumble at Brighton...Jackanory again
So right, I'm a skinhead and from way back, this is bollocks... suits shite, shoes are all wrong...... anyway who gives a fuck. let em waffle on. Might want to wash his hair
@@johngodwin4586 How should the suit and shoes be instead? I'm getting into the style and culture but haven't invested in suits or dress shoes yet. Just sharp shirts, jumpers etc so far.
@@johngodwin4586 crash helmet - you're wrong about the shoes BTW
@@johngodwin4586 btw, what the fuck would skinheads know anyway? Loakes Brogue boots
@@benelliot2214 Just by reading your comment I think you should give up this dream right away. If you have to come to a RUclips comment section for style advice you're fucked mate!
He’s not a proper Mod; he’s a pseudo Mod. We were the Mods!
To me this is Mod not rucking with rockers down Brighton
The sex,the market and the record shops,all gone
will shop where i want to thanks , i can get the same thing
s cheaper lol
Bright lights Soho, Carnaby Street, I hope I make friends with the guys that I meet. I take the pills too much.
Eddie Piller is the coolest mod i know
Pillar the back rest breaker . Him and mike hung around a lot together. Piller was a piss head in the eighties like the rest of our scooter club. NW Kent zodiacs we had 120 members
Good thing, I'm not mutt & jeff, yet!
They always looked so smart .was seeing a rocker
at the time, didn't last very long,those crash helmets
made a mess of your hair.
ironic that eddie was born in 1962 or 63 so when mod originated he was not born ,
Ready Eddie Go
Horrible shoes
An embarrassing old relic.