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- James Hogg reports on the mod revival currently taking place in London. He interviews Ian Page - the vocalist with the new mod group Secret Affair - and John Entwistle of mod's elder statesmen The Who. Is the mod rebirth just a flash-in-the-pan, motivated by money, or is there more to it than that?
The whole affair is regarded with some amusement in Yorkshire, where the mod scene never really went away, and where there are still several thriving scooter clubs. What do these veteran mods make of what is happening down in London?
Originally broadcast 13 September, 1979.
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For some of us, it never went away. We were into northern soul and scooters and so were called mods. We went along with the mod revival, 40 plus years on, im still into northern soul and scooter's and so are many of my friends from the late seventies and early 80's. The scene is still thriving. Who would have thought that when this BBC documentary was made. Some gave it 3 months some a year.... not us lads from Yorkshire, we gave it a lifetime
"flash in the pan"? My goodness, todays fashions still hark back to the mods
Holy crap, the Nationwide feature from the archive. The earliest surviving film of Squire? Amazing, love it!
I saw Squire at the moddy kid saturday lunchtime club called La beate route in Greek st in 1981.Same jackets.
“Great dirties I tell thee”
Fantastic. God bless the Yorkshire men!!!!
What a brilliant slice of history of popular culture this is and a great forecast this Secret Affair fella makes.
I'm just an American Anglophile enamored with accents, but good God, there's English, there's British English, and then there's Yorkshire English! Phrasebook anyone, please? :-)
@@roughcutguitarsI’m from Manchester, the right side of the Pennines, and only a couple of hours from Yorkshire and I could barely make out what those lads were saying.
The Mod scene was huge in the ‘80’s in my hometown of Belfast. I wasn’t a Mod myself but I have friends from that time who were, and they are still friends. Mods have had a huge influence and their traces can still be felt.
And then 2 tone was the massive thing of late 1979 .brilliant times
I was at secondary school frm 79-84 all my friends were Mods .. I still am !
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Same years as me , but it was more New Romantics and skinhead and a few goths .
78-83 lol 😂 😂 still love wearing me suits lol 😂 😂
79-83 Got my 50 special in 82 as soon as I turned 16 in Nov. Bought with Newspaper round and a Wycombe Wanderers Scratchcard round! Paid £100 for it. In 1983 I got my PX150 regd as a 125 by Ron the Con in West Drayton!
I remember this revival , I was born in 63, and was in the thick of 79 , I saw secret affair at liverpool uni mountford hall 28 nov 79 happy days 😢😢😢
I'd never heard of Ian Page (Paige?) before. Damn sensible and eloquent young guy. Not a mention of The Jam struck me as funny.
Secret affair lasted until the early 80's then Ian page left the music industry until returning in '99 with his own group and then reforming secret affair later on in the 2000's touring mostly and producing a new album in 2012 and touring mainly since then before the pandemic
Listen to Time for Action a classic mod anthem by them
The date of this piece was 13th September 1979. At that time Secret Affair's debut hit Time For Action was just climbing up the charts. They had a second Top 20 hit the following spring,called My World which is well worth a listen too.
The jam was the biggest band in England ,, secret Affair was a good band , but not in the same class as the jam best wishes from Durham England
Weller was cynical about the Mod revival and slagged off Secret Affair and Quadprophenia. If he was asked to take part in this, I'm guessing he refused.
No Weller or Jam? That year they had a massive hit with Eton Rifles, and four months after this went out Going Underground went straight in at number one.
Squire, Purple Hearts, Secret Affair, The Lambretta's etc..were all good revival bands not just the jam.
Jam were New Wave. They looked like Mods But The music was more punk. Real Mods listened to black American soul music.
@@original.dwornboy Well the original mods listened to rhythm and blues, the mod revival scene actually came from punk as you can hear in the revival tunes. Respect 🙌✌️
There was another group around at the time called The Merton Parkas. Paul Weller later broke up The Jam, to form The Style Council with one of the Merton Parkas, Called Mick Talbot.
@@DasTubemeister I'm going to find my old cassette's out and have a mod day 🤣😂.... Zoot Suit white jacket with side vents 5 inches long..... 🙌✌️
I remember my U.S parka from yeomans army store back in 85, cost 30 quid and my jam shoes were nicked off the rail out side the shop when they used to put em out in pairs. Lol. Good old days, still at school and bit later on got into the Manchester scene.
Wow!!! fantastic!!!! what a gem of a glimpse into Mod, stuff the teeth grinding Mod Revival , Retro Fashion tags, Mod has never gone away, we are the Mods!!!
Secret Affair were a great band regardless of the mod revival and should have been massive...
All my friends were mods, with various scooters running on L plates, you could ride up to 250cc, but not carry a passenger unless they had s full car driving license.
I had passed my test and rode around with them on the back.
When it was pissing down, they all got in my van.
Great video, never seen this ❤
I was a mod in '79 (age 15). My first ever record was Poison Ivy by The Lambrettas. I still have it.
I was a Crass type punk back then mate but I have to say I miss all those diverse youth cultures we had back then and we all got on great in our part of SE London.
I was a mod in the early 80’s. The best days. I still have a Lambretta today.
Good for you my friend for sure l still play my dar's old records, I love the Merton parkas and the small hours, as my dar says best days of his life.
COUNTY TIPPERARY IRELAND 🇮🇪 ☘
@@aklouslibby563 Scooby doo
@@fishermansid8861 😂
@kyfaydfsoab 😂
The original mods were mid-sixties. 1979-80 was mod revival.
What a wonderfully cynical presentation. There was a Mod gang in my little Northern town, mid eighties. They were the coolest cats. I remember 2-Tone being more about the music. Black and white folks getting together and making a new style of music. A different attitude to our parents’ old fashioned views which is what made it so cool 👍🏼
The narrator was a condescending old guard critic of (I imagine) anything that's passed him by.
Yeah Mod scene was strong in the mid 80s.
Clean living under difficult circumstances. Up the mods 😎
Walking Down The Kings Road. Mod's Mayday '79. The LP bought at the time and still played today.
Monday night in Canning Town was buzzing! Young people only go out on appointments now. One big "blowout" a month I hear
The Who are the greatest band for what will become soon over 60 years modism was a part of them but they are a rock band with a roll
5 mins in the lad with the tash what a accent! Haven’t heard anyone talk like that before. I’m from London but assume that’s a proper Yorkshire accent from days gone by. “I tell thee” that’s something from old English. If only local accents had continued
I just commented on that. I couldn’t understand a word! And they say people from donegal are hard to understand. Could you make that out?
@@williamgeorgelopezjunior8533 haha ye I was able to understand it but it made me really focus! The Yorkshire accent is a strange one it has a lot of Scandinavian influence from my understanding, there’s a great video il link you that shows a interview with a much older man who I couldn’t understand at all and was a older version of this accent
@@williamgeorgelopezjunior8533 ruclips.net/video/ScELaXMCVis/видео.htmlsi=vJOf1A07P2qNrA-T
Anyone out there who attended la beat route in greek st London in the early 80s.I saw Squire , RSG and 007 there plus loads more .I never realised then that I would be in a 60s band years later as a bass player myself on a ricky 4001.
Also saw Small world at the 3 rabbits in forest gate , steve marriots local.
15 when this film came out, still remember the revival from Sunderland.
Yeah I was too young for the 79-84 years but knew I lad called Stu who was in that scene and now or did works in M&S in the town.
this is wonderful being a yank i wish we had something like this.. something to hold on to
We are the mods! We are the mods! We are, We are, We are the mods!
Cool Documentary. Long live Rock.
"I'm a mocker."
Guitar bands are on the way out
Ringo Starr
We are the mods we are the mods 👍
I love watching this, inspired me... class -
I was a mod over here in the states in my late teens to early 20s without realizing I was mod, lol.
A great time to be young ,got a vespa 50 special in 1979 , loved being a revival mod , at 17 got a lambretta, it was a exciting and scary time but feel sorry for today's teenager's got no tribe
MOD REVIVAL and know one mentioned Tony Class
First video of Squire from the era that I have seen but they focus on the bassist not the singer on guitar lol.
Enzo left the following year, but great to see this early clip! I wonder if the BBC have outtakes from the night in storage...
I'm In To My NORTHERN SOUL. But This Is Where It All Started. Being A Mod was 15 At The Time. Remember seeing SECRET AFFAIR At WITHAM PUBLIC HALL With BAD MANNERS. Half The Hall Was MODS Tge Other Half SKINHEADS. Kick Off Big Time. Then I Was A CASUAL Follow SPURS. BUT Love My NORTHERN SOUL. STILL GO TO BLACKPOOL TOWER BLACKPOOL WINTER GARDENS KINGS HALL 100 CLUB BRIDLINGTON. PLOD KTF FROM SOUTHEND KOKO. BORN AND BROUGHT UP IN WITHAM. THE GOOD OLD DAYS GREAT TOWN BACK THEN. ✊✊✊✊✊
The High Numbers !!
Itailian scooters & french style 😎...
I'm sure French style/design played a part but, wasn't it about Italian tailoring and the US college look.
Italian style!
The Small Faces were genuine Mods, unlike The Who jumped on the movement with Pete Townshend calling it art.
You can listen to Squire - Walking Down The Kings Road here! ruclips.net/video/n78brkaFL6o/видео.html
We are the mods we are the mods we are we are we are the mods ❤
And then along came the New Romantics.
Love how northern Mods are much less posh than londoners
I remember seeing a documentary in which a skinhead said that northern mods were more likely to fight back than southern mods when attacked by skinheads.
@@johnnyb8825 won't doubt that 🧣
@@johnnyb8825I was a north London skinhead in 78 and everyone wanted to have a go. I got fed up of being lumped in with the stereotypical glue sniffing sieg-heiling bald vegetables that were emerging, and turned mod in 79.
Never met a posh mod in my life, north or south.
And off they went in a cloud of smoke
Awesome
Secret Affair , typical one hit wonders , manufactured for profit , didn't quite work though did it lol , now Two Tone that was a great scene
I was a eighteen year old punk at the time but secret affair were genuine about the music and were not manufactured, same for the chords , just young bands enjoying themselves.
I love The Who in terms of music from the original band & Quadrophenia is deep routed for me but let’s face it They sold out years ago & get much more credit than they deserve.
Good to see john entwistle RIP the ox
I could never understand why northern mods had moustaches 😂
Now London is londonstan
We are t'Mods!!!
a used to have a ld 150, me other mates had li a was poorer, it cost is 5 pound me mates li was 15 pound other mate had li new one, a had an accident hit a vw beetle so it ended up a skeleton scooter, me road tax was 2 pound insurance was 14, a really miss those days of fun most mates are all gone now and am just hanging on, them royal alloys look class
See that, new mods? Scoots not plastered with lights and mirrors 😏 yeah..
The nostalgis!!!!!
Mods with moustaches? WTF?!
Mods were 15 years before yet they speak about it as if it was 40 years before.
That's how fast music and fashion moved in the second half of the 20th Century. Very different from the 21st Century.
Music and fashion changed and flipped nearly every six months from 1963-85. Blink and you missed something! The 1972 film American Graffiti was nostagia set in 1962. By 1972, 1962 may just as well have been have been in another century. Just ten years and so much had been and gone.
That revival looked absolutely soulless and grim...
It was . Two tone wiped it
@@nasdkhan254 2 Tone was an important element.
at least the london Mods didnt have L plates🤣
shame there are no subtitles for when the northerners speak
Amazing how ordinary working class people were so well dressed back in the 60s.
the yorkies original northern[soul[lads ..casino.barnsley[metrodome[mcr twisted wheel
Giulio and Guido
Mods ride Hair Dryers on Wheels
Does that threaten your masculinity, Andrew?
I don't think it lasted a year! dx
Skins always been there if you look and identify...lesser numbers but original always lasts
StevenGerrard already ride a Hyundai ~ 🤪😜😝
-:you guys must never watch Liverpool match and join Mods squad while young...the reason I'm know Liverpool cause I'm riding a scooters...I'm not fans them too..
Moustaches?
Nothing wrong with the fashion, just the transport. Give me a motorbike.
Any subculture will never be understood by piers or parents. Personally i will never understand Northerners. How this lot can say they was on trend before the Brighton/Southend/Margate and Londoners bemuses me?
Hmm the mods died out pretty quickly, the music and the fashion didnt last long where as the rockers, well the groups still sell millions of albums and pack football stadiums out throughout the world , enough said
Crap music
@kyfaydfsoab I think Willy likes Britney Spears and the Backpack kid.
If Moon was predictable Thunderfingers was *UNNECESSARY* a massive loss.... RIP John wherever you are have a drink and Jam with Keith, Lemmy, Philthy Animal and *BORIS THE SPIDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
'Unnecessary' - he was a long term drug user/abuser wasn't he? Moon's death may have been predictable but he was integral; irreplaceable. In fact all the band members were irreplaceable. One of those bands, like The Beatles or Queen, U2. Echo and the Bunneymen were never the same following the loss of Pete defritas.
@hazelwray4184 still unnecessary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like he was probably wanting help for it but loved and enjoyed partying too much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thunderfingers you were and still are *A FUCKEN AUTISTIC GENIUS AND ALWAYS MUTHAFUCKEN WILL BE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
Wimpy bikes, wimpy music, wimpy clothing I would have clashed with these guys.
Ohhhh! You sound big and scary!
@@johntate5050 yeah .......just wait till I get my time machine 👊👊
Absolute Prey for the Skinheads
That's true, Skins were the only one's I remember fighting with until casuals came along.
@@reccerat4446 oh I know..I was one of them...hahahaha! 40+ years later, my hairs longer, I own 2 Vespas and wearing monkey boots....
@@joedoomsdaypio4374 haha no hard feelings, on reflection it was a great time to be young! Better than today at least we spoke to each other before having a fight lol.
@@reccerat4446 weren't casuals a bit like Mods? - Pringle jumpers, neat looking. Was there a music genre for casuals?
@@hazelwray4184 casual's were in effect what you would call today football hooligans. I guess there was much crossover from the scooter boys, souly's (Northern soul) and the like, but casual's had their own identity derived from the clothes they wore which was separate to the normal football fan. Music didn't play as much of a role, although many English bands became associated tacitly.
My dad started the parka brand called parka London ,, I remember him being contacted by the film makers of Quadrophonia to supply all the parkas for the extras ,, I was a kid
We wore Italian army fishtail parkas or German nato boxtail parkas army surplus lol Mr parka brand should zip fully up his snorkel parka and wander across traffic with his pinnocinose 6 feet Infront lol seen some whoppers then another walks right into it my dad invented and made spirit level bubbles also tartan paint but nowadays shoots wild haggis in Highlands of Scotland lmfaooo @4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse
My 21yr old daughter & her boyfriend are both mods. I think it’s great when young people embrace a scene from the past because they keep it alive & It’s a huge compliment to those who did it first.
York lads and Barnsley Vikings,,top lads,,,,proper scooterboys.
Jesus this presenter is patronising and passive-aggressive. Just makes you realise how long the BBC has hated the working class. The snobbery and disdain oozes from this guy's presentation. Great topic though!
They still do
I reckon that was an exciting time to be young. Music, freedom and youth.
It was but we all wished we'd been around in the 60s.
.. and no social media
@@paulhanson5164 Nah never did and still don't
Shitey music
It's always an exciting time to be young. You just don't realize it at that time.
Secret Affair were brilliant and had their all too brief moment. Ian Page was located by the NME a year later working in a food packing plant.
Worked in the same office as him...felt like Jimmy coming across Sting as a bell boy in Quadrophenia!
@@mikelewis1436 You are joking, they were big in 79/80.
@@VincentRE79 yes, massive...
@@mikelewis1436 From TOTP to an office job in 18 months quite an achievement.
@@VincentRE79 no, I worked with Ian in the mid-90s when he'd been out of music for many years - badgered him to come back and like to think I sparked his long-awaited return in '99!
The bridgehouse was a great place for live bands,the business and 4 skins played there back in the day,this is brilliant,thank you.
Got my first Lambretta in 1982, by the mid 80s over 20,000 of us used to go to the Isle Of Wight for the August bank holiday rally and some are still doing it...I'm not suggesting that my getting a scooter was responsible for the rise in scootering's popularity.
That first scooter cost me £200, if only I knew then what I know now, have you seen how much a 1960s Lambretta is worth today ?
Only Yorkshire mods manage to look scruffy
That's what I was thinking. 🤣
Ha 😃 best wishes from Durham
Aye up 👍
Moustaches!!!? What a two'n'eight, I tell ya.😅
The Small Faces are the true Mod Fathers
I thought The Who were.I `m no mod,never was,hate all that smart clothes thing and green jackets but some of the music was quite good including the Who
@@brianmorecombe2726 Daltrey was the only one of The Who even remotely into Mod.
@@brianmorecombe2726 Kinks.
@@Katy_Jones Someones understood that comment but i haven`t.Is it me that needs to go back to english classes?
Creation, The Yardbirds, Turquoise, The Pretty Things, all the Black blues artists, all the Black Soul and Motown artists.
Having lived through the 80s revival & still being a Mod to this day 2022, I can safely say it was the best time of my life
Yes it was fantastic ,,,
You see kids today, wearing tracksuits. Mods had a great style, little pieces of detail that set you apart. Proper love of clothes & Music.
We are the Mods❤️
I became so obsessed by it all. I had understanding older parents who'd already been through the youth thing with my brothers years before. They even bought me the Richard Barnes - Mods! book in 1980, bless 'em!
@@OldMod67 Hi bud I was the same , but to be true now I wish I never got involved in it all I have 2 vespa s and a lambretta ,, I never use them ,, just not in to it at all ,,,
I'm 53 and still living the lifestyle.
It never left loads of hardcore mods out there ✊🏻
@ciao214Z I am fortunate enough to have been involved in the London scene since the time of this feature. IMHO, the first flush of revival mod in the South came with The Jam, 2-Tone and Quadrophenia. My personal route in was through a love of 2-Tone and Quadrophenia and I have no problem with admitting this. We only became aware of the established Northern scene later. However, this Southern scene had begun to peter out after Paul Weller broke up The Jam and many turned to other related subcultures like Northern Soul, psychedelia, scooterist and casual. The scene was rescued by individuals who did a little more research:, started their own clubs; introduced more Rhythm & Blues, Jazz and Ska sounds from the 50s and 60s; raised enough cash to start getting their outfits properly tailored as well as more individual touches. We stopped imitating groups like The Jam and made our own scene which became (and remains) for many, a way of life. You may be short-sighted enough to consider individuals who like to listen to certain types of music and wear smart clothes imitators, however, you are ignoring what is an enduring subculture with dedicated adherents all over the world. Unfortunately, there seems to have been a section of people who, after jumping ship in the 80s and 90s, seem to have rediscovered the 'scene and used their disposable income to become something of a parody of the '79 period and built up a distortion of the original mod ethic we choose to follow, as stated by Pete Meaden of "clean living under difficult circumstances".
"Hardcore" should never be described anyone who rides a damn moped
from an era when 2 stroke smokey engines ruled the streets! waaaang waaaang ting ting ting
Plenty of scooterists around in the early and mid-1970s. They were under the media radar, so clearly didn't exist.
Peter Hook from Joy Division and New Order was one.
Forgotten suedehead cult.
Ian page and Jimmy pursey of sham 69 talking mods and rockers 1979 on the TV show Friday night Saturday morning hosted by ned sherrin would be good to see
Pete townshend said a couple of years ago the who wasn't mod they were adopted by the mods
And then portrayed as Mods for publicity.
No, they adopted the Mod style, but by that time it was all over. Mods listened to modern jazz & soul, not the Who, & certainly not the sodding Jam.
They were as mod as they come, especially Roger Daltrey and Pete Townsend. The Small Faces, the Move and the Creation were also original mod bands.
It seems to me that the London mods were fashionistas and music fans some of whom had a scooter.
The northern Scooter boys loved and cherished their Lamrettas and some of whom liked mod music.
Also as you could see many Scooter boys were highly talented customisers and very often bikers just bought from a dealer.
Yes Scooter Boys, not Mod, which was all about sophisticated high fashion & began in London. The Northern scooter boys were not true Mods. Not the originals at all. Scruffy oiks who had no idea how to dress. Scooters were for cruising around Soho looking cool, not crossing the f'ing Pennines.
Nothing ever started before London Mods who had all the italian labels well before anyone else infact every label Ben Sherman etc. To suggest anything else from up north is frankly ridiculous. Ben Sherman by the way was founded in Brighton.
No mention of The Merton Parkas. Paul Weller was so impressed, he split up The Jam to form The Style Council with one of them, Mick Talbot.
I'm from merton and never heard of them.
But then again I was never a mod
Punk, Mod, New Wave, 2-Tone and Teddy Boys. The late 70's were a great time for the 3 minute heroes. Or 1 hit wonders.
I say the moment Punk hit in 1976 but the charts didn't get good until 1977 right up till the end of 1982 with The Jam's last year but even after that loads of good youth scenes underground like the Scooter Boys, Reggae, Jazz and Psychobilly etc before the Acid House thing.
@@chrisr5499 I was describing the youth on the streets Saturday afternoon in the town centre in the City I dwell. I would have added football fans but they were driven by the team not music. I should also have mentioned rockers, there were a lot of them.
No Skins.
@@CARLIN4737 I always thought Skins were political. Not music driven. Old school Suede heads and Skinheads were music driven. Times were changing fast in the 1970's in to the 1980's.
Barnsleys finest. They're all still at it now. Loved that quadrophenia vespa when I was a 10 year old in 79.
Movie "Quadrophenia" in 1978 was a big revival influencer, I remember kids in the suburbs of Preston circa 1982-1986 with scooters and those green 'fish tail' long coats with the mod / circular R.A.F. like stitch badge on the back !
They are still here in Preston now. A girl I know loves it and has a fishtail.
Quadrophenia was released at the end of 1979. Fantastic film, but l could never get the album.
I saw the film and had the album. Groups of revivalist Mods suddenly sprang up at my school in the autumn of 1979. There were already a few diehard Rockers. 2 Tone was getting big at that time,as well.
October ‘79
@@shack7631 Still have the original double album (pre the film).
First their was punk 👍🧟, new wave , new romantics and the mod revival fantastic times great music
So there they are in thier Yorkshire Sunday best looking absolutely immaculate not a hair out of place ….then comes your big moment with the national news reporter who doesn’t understand you as you sound like an extra for all creatures great and small !!! 😂😂😂😂classic!!!
A nice, albeit cynical at times, little film. I liked the Mod purity spiral at the beginning and the one that sounded like Chorlton from Chorlton and the Wheelies. I think the take on the Mods v Rockers thing was a bit one sided. I don’t think the Rockers were always the innocent victims; they have as good as they got. And great picture quality too. Film - even 16mm shot on the fly - holds such lovely detail, colour and atmosphere.
Chorlton and the Wheelies was made in Chorlton. One off the animators was a yoing scooterist called John Squire, who played guitar in some local combo...
I remember this first time around. Northern clubs never gave up on the scooter scene.
Back in the day I didn't really rate the new bands, they were sort of Punk music in suits. I only realised how good the Jam were later in life, it was all about emulating the 60's look and collecting as many classic records as possible and finding the fashions in old Oxfam shops to recycle to look authentic. You could pick up a Scooter fairly cheap then and getting an SX200 was really easy cos there was always an old boy down the road who had one in a shed. Happy days.
You just about summed it all up for me.
I recall Paul Weller once saying, Ian Page was a one time failed Punk, now trying his hand at mod.😂
Looks like Ian succeeded at that. Secret Affair are up there with the best of the 1979 revivalists.
Time has proven Weller was a fake "substitute" sums him up by the who
Pots n kettles?