HILUX MODIFICATION REGRETS
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- HILUX MODIFICATION REGRETS
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I totally agree with the tyre size, gearing comments. Having gone big, it's a never ending rabbit hole of modifications to never get back what you've lost.
Good video.. Not many blue singlet 4x4 drivers will admit they actually want or need smaller tyres.. or don't need a locker.. real world advice for real world people.. cheers
Really glad you mentioned the 33" tyres and the negatives.
I couldn't agree more.
Makes a 100 series 1HD-FTE a gutless slug compared to standard...
Fuel went from 11km/100 to 13.5km/100.
Braking is worse.
And it doesn't get me any further in the bush...
And you'll be changing wheel bearings more often
More comfy off-road though. Go for the Raptor Ranger BF AT’s, narrow and capable
@@reubs91 Got Toyo AT in a 285
Honestly, pig of a tyre for 98% of the driving the vehicle does.
They heavy, Slippery on wet bitumen.
But it's the rolling mass of a 33" that's the single biggest issue and it's made 1st too high for hills
Yeah noticed that when I put some 33s on my HDJ79 Ute, it was fine with 32s and I’ve been many tracks in that car eg CSR, Simpson desert on 32s so I’ll leave them on my 76 series
Go for skinny 33s. Not gonna feel the difference from the 32s. (255/85/16)
@@Arda86ca 100% thats the tyre every 70 series should be fitted with
Great video, you can certainly tell youve given these things a lot of thought. Im surprised the blower worked that well for preventing dust. I wouldve thought an inflating seal for the tray would've been a more practical solution, but the blower looks a lot simpler to implement.
Nice work!
Also yes, A solar panel is a must for aaaaaany camper in my humble opinion. I cant express just how much I love knowing that I have virtually unlimited power for all the toys (Granted its a sunny day and my van is parked in the sun, which is also a downside to a perma-mounted panel).
Have you thought about going to a pizza cutter size like 255/85r16 or 255/80r17? I love it on my Tacoma. I have the diff clearance of a 33” without the unnecessary width and weight. Great for an overland/tourer vehicle!
Seems to be the consensus that these are too rare of tyre sizes in Austrialia too use(and 17x7 wheels), the best solution would be 285/70r17 Yokohama Geolander MT G003 tyres, they weight 3kg/6.6lbs less per tyre or 15kg/33.1lbs less for a set of 5 tyres. 12kg/26.5lbs of that weight will be contributing to better fuel economy and a smoother ride from less weight to control and less stiff sidewalls. And Ronny Dahl dosen't have to go to All Terrians(has said that he prefers MT tyres) and no need to go down to 265/70r17 tyres(and narrower wheels for lip protection?).
Great update episode and very useful advice. I was lucky enough to pass the 79 a couple of weeks ago and it's looking great 🍺🍻
good content Ronny, I bought a Hilux just as you started the Hilux mod series, just for reference I have done done a fair bit of the vic high country with 32's and never got stuck, just the occasional scrape on the rear diff or bashplates. If your not looking for the tough tracks you don't need bigger tyres.
Love all the videos Ronny but really found this one useful re: the negative effects of bigger tyre size. Cant wait to see the new 79 futout too!! Few sneak peaks of the interior looks epic
Ronny I think it is worthy that you do a more in-depth video on planning a build; Laying out the goals, restrictions, needs and desires from the outset. The money wasted to find out 33's aren't the best for your use (or any individual doing one) and the associated ongoing cost like fuel,drive ability on and offroad, body mount chop, UCAs (although you may have ended up doing these when you needed to replace the upper ball joints), engineering and certification is massive. I know I have been there to and its now rinse and repeat with more thought into the actual required uses, abilities and fit out requirements. Good to see more honesty in Offroad Social media . The BS out there is incredible.
Been following you for a long time now, and the quality of your videos is just in another level. I remember watching the first videos and thinking about the always excellent content, but felt I was looking about videos from the 90s, now is just in the future.
Machines are amazing.
Even your look on this video rocks, you look younger and full of live, that also provides feel that material is current.
Best wishes and keep it up.
Awesome! Great topic! Was always in 2 mines about larger , wider wheels( diameter). As much as want to go 4wd driving the tough stuff, I’m setting my vehicle up primarily for off road touring eventually towing a camper trailer. Thanks Ronny, your video answered a few of questions I was asking myself about how and what to add to my triton
One suggestion I will make regarding your comment mate. If towing a camper try and have the same sized & style wheels & tyres on the vehicle and trailer. It means extra Spares if something is to happen.
@@OnCountryWithMick Yes, several people have mention that to me, cheers for heads up.
Hey Ronnie. Question regarding tyre size and fuel economy: Did you factor in the odometer not being calibrated after changing to 33''s? In my case, doing the math with gps readings I found out that there is a difference of 0.8l/100km (12.2l/100km to 11.4l/100km). It is of course not going to be as low as when it was stock, but it is not as bad as the vehicle computer displays. This is in a Ranger PXII going from 265/60R18 HTs to 285/75R16 MTs. (Measured from a total of 5000kms of highway trips for consistency)
I have 32" A/Ts on my MQ Triton on a set of 16s (and also a spare set of 17s). I nearly went 33s, but a more sensible head prevailed considering my rig is primarily a tourer. I have a Brown Davis long range tank, so sticking to 32s I get really good range. If I went to 33s, my range would have been reduced by too much to make 33s worthwhile. The key is to stick with the intended use case for your build and try to not make too many compromises for the 'look'.
I have a winch, maxtrax and 3x diff locks so I can get to most places other utes can on 33s anyway - get out and drive your rig!
Your Luxxy looks pretty tough, Ronny. Nothing wrong with changing up some of the mods as you know more about what you need. Cheers mate.
Having personally owned Hilux’s for over 30 years I can confidently say 32” tyres and a 2” lift is all you need.
I would also black out those chrome door handles, remove the rear bar that’s on the tub as well, will look much cleaner.
in regards to the dust buster. In the US, they use a similar system for their offroad trophy truck racing, like Baja. Except its used in the cab, keeping dust out for the driver and navigator.
I like the modifications you have made and a definitely have a suggestion for the tires. If you are wanting to go to All terrains but perhaps dont want to go down in tire size(even i dont like doing that) might I suggest the Firestone Destination XT? I have it on my 2019 Ford Ranger here in the states in 285/70-17 and to say the least I love it!! It is also much lighter compared to other tires including the BFG K02 and others that are the same load rating. I didnt take the fuel hit like others with the Ranger running 33's either. That would be my recommendation to you!!
Haven't seen anyone mention the negative impact of large and heavier wheels on braking. There is also greater stress on drive line components. Becomes important on long trips carrying weight. Personally I went from 265/65x17 to 265/70x17 which corrected my speedo and gave a little extra clearance. Suspension lift also and rarely have any issues with clearance.
Have you thought about skinny 33s? 33/10.5/15 (will not fit to the new hilux most probably) or 255/85/16 (I guess this wheel diameter is already possible). People say that fuel usage is considerably lower with these.
I remember you were very happy about mt772 maxiss. They do exist in skinny sizes.
That is my plan to try with an old 7g hilux. Most probably I will have to change gearing after that .
Another great video Ronny mate, me personally I don't see some mods as regrets where as they are more like learning curves that make 4wding more enjoyable 👍
As always, thanks for informative varied content. You do mix around so I appreciate this. I ordered a fortuner based on your impartial sensible comparison you did with Prado. I am still waiting and hope I made correct comprinused choice and compromise was justifying additional cost to Prado and the space in back when removing rear seats that I don't like. If at all possible if you could do more on Fortuner, like a project mods on other people something please as I think there are quite few people out there with Tunas.
Now the engineering and certification will be interesting! Nobody shows that process nor admits they are likely not legal so well done for doing it. I’ll be keen to learn the process!
I am so keen for this episode
I'm keen as to see the process
419K subs mate, getting there! Thanks 😊 for the content! Strength to your channel!
I'm running 235/85/16 BFG ATs on my 4x4.
I think that this tyre size is very underrated and would suggest it be something you consider.
Lighter than any other 32". Long foot print instead of wide, and in all honesty, I cannot even hear them on the road.
Tony great tyre size agreed. I ran these back in the early nineties on a 60 series and they were excellent, I even compared the same vehicle with same tyres but 265/75R16 and the thinner tyres outperformed on steep muddy trails. The elephant in the room now is fitting smaller tyres on 16 on modern vehicles. They just don't fit over the brakes.
thats the tyre size I run on my 2013 hilux, damn good size
@@huntingarete9214 235/80r17 might do the trick for the brakes.
Great series and insight, live the sneaky bright orange trim on the 79
Thanks for your honesty with the tyre size brother !
It is so easy to get into an arms race with yourself. I put an amp and speakers in my bedroom to improve the sound from a TV and found myself wanting to put in a full surround system as I have one on my main TV. I had to tell myself I had the other TV for that. Eventually I got into enjoying the different systems.
The dustbuster 3000 is cool. And it will really extend the life of that ARB fridge too!
Good that you are talking a bit about everyday drives. This is the reality for most people, including me. There are compromises but you can still have a great rig.
RE tyres I came to exactly the same conclusion mate. I've gone from 33s (285/75r16) to a 32 (265/75r16) and yes it's the way forward. You'll lose so little clearance you'll never notice but you WILL notice a gain in pulling power and fuel consumption. I have A/T for daily driving and M/T for weekend playing.
God knows how my original comment got copied and pasted by a dodgy account with a g-string photo. RUclips losing the plot. Anyway... Change the tyres back Ronnie.
Hi Ronny, love your vids. I have a 2021 hilux same as yours (without the mad mods) just wondering what liters per hundred you get towing & with all the extra weight?
Nice informative video. Thanks.
In Norway we can get a hillux (and Prado) built by arctic trucks from the Toyota dealer. Choose from 32", 35" and 37" for Hilux and 35" and 37" for Prado
Got my Hilux back in Sep 2021 and got the original Maxxis (265s) you had installed on yours. Was thinking down the road to look at 285s but doing my own research,
and now your feedback, it looks like more trouble than it’s worth.
I still have some scrubbing on the mud guards but just used a hot gun and bent them back a bit. Scrubbing is only light now.
285/70r17 Yokohama Geolander MT G003 weigh 3Kg/6.6lbs less than the same size RAZR MT. Look at the tyres that you prefer and thier weight and if you can't find the weight on a Austialian website look at the brand's U.S. website.
Currently I'm running 265/70Rx17s Hankook Dynapro MT2s on my 2019 Lux which are probably the least aggressive muddies. So far so good.
Ragrats! 15amps!! haha draws more than our Caravan Dust Suppression fan haha
The Rhinohide looks 🔥! Awesome product.
Hi Ronny, greetings from the UK, been following your Hilux build from day one, interesting to hear your feedback re 285 tyres as i was considering changing to this size in the future and you've help me make a decision i will stay with 265x75x16 BF AT on my 2021 Hilux.
another mod I've done is a engine re map which i can really recommend, regards Gary
For something different with tyres Ronny: RAZR MT or AT, either will work, but consider 235/85r16. Many will balk at this size saying they’re “skinny”, but it is a size that works really well on this size vehicle. On my own MQ Triton (which is never less than 2500kg) I changed from a 265/75r16 BFG KO2’s, to 235/85r16 RAZR MT’s. To say I was astonished at the difference is a huge understatement! If you’re curious, PM me and come for a play down at Tim’s Thicket or Whitehills to see how well this combination works, even in powder soft sand. Sean.
im a 235/85 r 16 man
Very informative. Good to have feedback after you have used the “mods” for a while.
Hi Ronny! Have you tried the skinny 33s? (256/85/16) same clearance as any other 33 but the lightness and eagerness of a 32. Actually it even feels quicker than the 265/75/16.
I get funny tingles everytime I see you upload ❤️❤️❤️
I don’t know who your fitness coach is, but they are earning their keep… I gotta get back in the gym AND on the trails just to keep up!
My RLD canopy has a positive pressure door on top. A simple spring loaded door that opens and directs oncoming clean air from the top of the canopy into the truck. It works amazingly well. Same issues with human error, you have to remember to open and close it.
Regarding the solar, I've watched another youtuber test and use a bonnet mounted panel from Cascadia 4x4 in the US, I'm honestly surprised that it's not a more common route in Australia, considering how much real estate is taken up by a permanent mount.
I liked watching this, I am still looking for my travel vehicle. The positive air pressure was a neat solution, I wonder if the placement of the fan would be affected by vortices of air swirling around the back of the cab when travelling at speed? Could it be roof mounted and ducted? great stuff to think about.
Haha, just yesterday I was looking around and was like "man, I guess there aren't going to be any more Project Luxy episodes," and then bam, a new one drops.
Love seeing videos like this with honesty on what is right & wrong with mods. Also love that you mentioned tyre size. I recently released a video discussing what tyres I use and why and discussed fuel usage etc and right away everyone is saying I need to go bigger. I'm only running stock 265/70/16 on my Pajero and everyone keeps saying I need 33's and what you have said is exactly why I don't want to go bigger, or at least that much bigger.
I run 33s on my pajero. Currently at 2.8T daily. 15-16L/100km in my diesel haha yes, diesel
@@ninja.darkhorse I average 14-15L/100km in my 3.5L v6 around 2.5t with my fat ass in it. I've recently done a video myself discussing what I run and why I have chosen to run them. Not everyone will be the same, some want bigger, some want MTs and of course some want more known brands but they do me.
I run the stock 265 65 17 on my 2014 bt50 and it's gotten me everywhere I need to go. I get 9l/100 sitting at 2.3t daily driver weight. Once I load it up with my dual battery, awning, fridges, solar, water it gets noticeably heavier and uses more fuel, so I've designed the ute to have everything bolt in with ease. Takes about an hour to have it from stocker to camp ready.
@@turbostyler I've done similar with the Pajero. Drawer system & fridge remove in minutes to allow full access in the back of the Pajero. I haven't taken it out since I set it all up though except for a deep clean.
very good work - great idea 👍
32 inch tyres are the go, I went with those over 33’s and so glad I did on the 15 inch rim. The 32’s were a 6.8% increase in diameter I think 33’s were more than 10%. The performance with 32’s on my 1994 import 78 series Prado with the little 3.0 TD is hardly compromised and with 2 inch lift it gives good clearance. and the economy is good, 9.8l per 100 on the open road.
Got tiny 30.5s on my Jeep Grand Cherokee, and it has gone everywhere that big mud tyred defenders and landcruisers have gone without breaking a sweat
@@benbirch2393 there is a very old black and white video online of a T model ford driving through mud and rocks on solid tyres about 2 inches wide and it keeps on going, sure it is very light too. the wider the tyre the more resistance.
@@roscored1000 I think weight has a lot to do with it. My Jeep when fully laden for a trip weighs 2.4 tonnes on a lorry weigh bridge. I think a landcruiser probably weighs that when unladen!
The 33x10.50r15 Maxxis Razr MT weighs .5kg less than the 32x11.50r15 tyre size ( as a side note 15x7 wheels weigh 1kg less than 15x8 wheels). So I would choose 33x10.50r15, made in AT and MT by multiple brands.
Hi Ronny , l’m tour overlader 30 years in Australia l drive now fourth Toyota Prado and only on factory size, but only all terain tire and 2 inch lift thats all. I’ll never do front locker or change tire size because it’s unnecessary. You came to the common sense. Cheers.
Nice video
Great to hear your thoughts Ronny, as, like you say, you can tweak a vehicle to suit your needs and environment...or if you just think something looks good.
Speakin of lookin good, you been workin out, or you been packing/unpacking the truck a lot?! 😄
Hi Ronny,
Thanks for your video, I’ve really enjoyed watching your video, thanks for sharing your experience, a quick question regarding bull bar! I have been trying to find some information regarding Hamer king plus bull bar with the 3 loops, what I have found that they will have probably another 4-5 months for rogue 2022 wide body, but I can’t find information regarding quality, appreciate your help if you have some opinion to share,
Cheers,
Might as well put the Maxtrax on the tub lid, and a solar panel on the roof rack. Straightforward solution.
What if he just stacked the Maxtrax and put the panel beside them??
@@shanevillis4079 because of his ocd towards aesthetics and balance haha
@@shanevillis4079 Wouldn't look good.
Saw one guy had them bolted onto the tailgate
Or put the solar panel on the tub lid… less wiring to run and neater , especially if the dc/dc or charge controller is in the tub
Completely agree with tyre size! In saying that on my manual 2018 Hilux 33's worked well now with a 2020 auto Hilux have just upgraded to a 32 and it's rubbish. I will be going back to a standard size.
I really recommend Cyclone Prefilters. They really increase the life of the filters.
I’ve got an old 85 Mk Patrol, little shorty. 32” Maxxis MTs on a 15” alloy has treated me well. Tbh I think it’s a bit heavy for the old girl, I reckon 32” AT will be my next set. Otherwise I’ll go full grandpa and back to the 31’s eventually lol
I’d love to see an episode about insuring modified 4wd. How do you start to shop around when the car has lots bolted on? What do you include? How do you guys do it? Would be some interesting discussion I’d imagine.
Do a test run with DGA. I'm just shopping around, they're pretty good.
Great story, what size 18 inch tyre will you be going to?. Cheers
Ronny, that fan that you bought is the same exhaust fan you find in above the range microwaves. You can probably find a free microwave on Craigslist. Tear it apart and grab that fan and throw away the rest of the microwave. i know this because I've ripped out two of those fans in junk microwaves.
Would it be possible to mount the Dustbuster 3000 to the underside of the lid? I would do this on my load lid but wouldn’t want the big box on the top.
Hi there. Possibly answered elsewhere but will ask anyway. I worked for a large facilities company in Sydney that refused to fit Roobars/bullbars to their Ute's even in rural areas. They claimed there are insurance issues (I think) but main reason was they said it affects safety like airbag deployment and crumple zones. What is your opinion on this? Thanks
For the dust buster, you could potentially put a relay in circuit and have the 4x4 signal turn the fan on, whenever you're off-road/driving in a dusty dirty environment you should be in 4x4.
What about beach driving or slower sandy track driving? The dust buster can take a rest. So an overide switch as well.
Ronny I'm both fascinated and pleased to hear you're going down a hair in tire size and keeping gear ratios. I've got a Chevy Colorado (like a Holden of the same name, I guess?) and all my American cousins (I'm in Canada) are all about 35s and 4.10s, but it's got to still be matched to the engine, gear box ratios, and size of the vehicle. Good sensible advice from you!
Have a Ranger with pre-rego agm and certified for 33" tyres. Regretting it now (added about $1800 to the certification/engineering costs) and I'm going down to 32's. Good choice for a tourer with occasional rock-hopping...
You've got me re-questioning the tire size & locker install to my pajero. Even though i drive off-road and through shallow water almost every day, it's not crazy enough to where the winch & traction boards couldn't get me out on a mostly stock set up
P.s. Looking like a badass out of a Vikings series these days :D
@@randindragonheart4558 A point not mentioned in the video a 285/70r17 Maxxis Razr MT weighs 3kg/6.6lbs more per tyre than a 285/70r17 Yokohama Geolander MT G003(dosen't weigh as significantly less in all sizes though).
Does it come in under GVM? What are the weights?
Hello from Canada... Any regearing options for your diffs, compensating for the bigger tyres?
Hey Ronny, please can we have your thoughts on having a forward facing Snorkel against having a rear facing Ram/snorkel. Please if you can review the performance difference.
Amazing look...
Ronny why dont u put the solar panel on the the ute master tub lid?
Not gonna lie my guy Ronny looking clean and jacked up
Noticed the Toyota snorkel, whats your opinion of that vs Safari ? cheers
Solar panels for your hood (bonnet) are another great option since its unused space and doesn't take up roof rack space. I have one from Cascadia4x4 (Canadian company) and it is awesome.
Just get a standard 3mm thick flex panel, and use magnets and double sided tape for mounting. Works great on my '20 np300.
I went with the Utemaster Centurion Canopy and cantilever rack. The Utemaster tub lid is very limited in space and weight considerations.
Only thing that I don't like about overlander ute's is that the facilities seem a bit "temporary" - like you've just chucked a fridge, cooker and swag in the back.
I'm not really keen on canopies either but I'd like to see a ute build that somehow manages to integrate the facilities into the vehicle more elegantly.
Course, if you intend to build a full-on overlander then you're probably going to go for a wagon or fit a canopy.
The whole point of a ute-build is probably that you CAN empty the back and use it as a work truck when required.
Spot on. My hilux is my daily driver and my tourer. Needs the ability to be emptied easily.
Cool haircut Ronnie 💪
Have you checked out Lensun hood solar panels? 100W available for the Luxy, and would not affect roof weight.
The Dustbuster3k is genious👍. I hate dust.
How do you attach the patches to the headliner?? 🤷♂️
Taking notes as I plan my Tacoma build
fair play admitting your regrets, much respect
Has anyone gone with no hard lid/tonneau cover? Just curious, I have an EGR canopy with a rooftop vent, works well
Oh, you're serious! ... I thought you were parodying something 🤣🤣🤣 Guess those "wind curtain" door devices can be adapted to the purpose; great out of the box thinking, bravo! 🤗👌👍
Hi from South Africa, great videos all in allIs it personal preference or is there a reason you never fitted a canopy (RSI for example...and we have lots of dust in SA especially if you travel through Namibie and Botswana) that can be made totally dust proof and would definitely allow enough space that you could add solar panels on the Hilux as well?
I liked the idea 💡 of the fan in the rear cover of the helux.
Did you try reversing the blower to create positive pressure in the tub to save on filters?
Hey mate I remember you saying that parabolic’s was your best mob on the cruiser.. terrain taimer do them for the hilux aswel.
Waiting on delivery of my 22
Model Hilux and definitely only going 31.6 on 17’s 👍
I’ve got 32in ATS on my 2021 fortuner Ronny
Still bags out off road and can still get 8.6L/100 cruising at 100kph. Sits on 12l/100 around town.
There is a company in the US, which sells solars for the bonnet installation. Besides the fact that they are semi flexible, they put a layer, under the panel, to avoid the heat from the solar affect the paint work. Plus it is mat, so there is no glare from the sun hitting your eyes. Look for it
Noctua has a range of industrial computer fans that might suit the dust buster better. Each one does 100 cfm, has good static pressure, 0.2 amps each, completely water and dust proof, 6 year warranty, 12v and they’re about 60 bucks each.
I'm so interested which AT you going to wear! In my country GoodYear Wrangler Duratrac is most popular, and now the Nokian Outpost AT presented, which have same tread depth and distance between lugs.
Do you have any experience with the Dust Buster 3000, regards to keeping rain out? I would love to hear about that! (I am more likely to have to deal with rain compared to dust, as I am in the north-east of USA)
good work Ronnie, I often wonder about peps putting 35" mud terrains and 6" lift and say'n its a touring rig?
And a leveling kit to a 4 inch lift depending on the vehicle(a RAM 2500/POWERWAGON needs a leveling kit(upgrade some of the componants ,etc.) and a 79 Series needs a 4 inch lift) for 35's. I saw a French RUclipsr put a 6 inch Rough Country lift(cheap) and planing to run 35's on a RAM 1500 4X4 made me shake my head, but his replacement for the stock muffler was a good choice, the end result wasn't to loud and had very good tone.
Saw this Hilux today...SOR in Perth.... Very nice...
Could you fit the the 33” spare in the space under the tub?
Yeah it fits.
The dust particles collected on your filter can be used as samples by scientists if your fitted the GPS as well to trace where they came from.
Been running 225/75/16 A/T tyres on my 2006 D4D 3.0l diesel Hilux for years. Never needed anything else to tour all over.
Have you talked to anybody comparing fuel consumption of your set up vs 235/85r16 tyres and a 1 inch lift. Any words of wisdom to share?
As all men know: beer cans are the best relative reference for anything. Be it money, volume, Kilowatts, anything really.