Over a decade later and he's still absolutely spot on. In Ireland today, even if you're lucky enough to get a good education and a job, if you earn less than 40 grand a year, then you're choices are either emigration or living in your parents gaff until your 30's. Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil have run the country into the ground time and time again and somehow people keep voting for them
ryan turbidy doesnt know what its like to be a normal person eamon dunphy is spot on and he really sticks up for the ordinary guys in this country good on you eamon dunphy
@Willem theDragonmaster With a name like Willem, I'm guessing you're not Irish... the fact that an Irish complaining about migration being utterly ironic is just another clue... 🤦
You can argue Ireland is a kip, but if it's a kip now, then it was always a kip. Let's not pretend it was all sunshine and rainbows in the 30s/50s/80s.
It's a very insecure little nation, everyone just wants to be liked and do the acceptable thing. Even drinking, if someone stops drinking they are "making a statement" but they aren't, it's just everyone's insecure about someone being happy not to drink that they round on them, and its like that with everything. No one is allowed to think as an individual and individual's are the people who lead the way. Teamwork's there sure, but teams don't have ONE clear vision, everything gets clustered.
That's actually insightful. But no one has a vision because we rule ourselves through mutually understood contracts of unmitigated greed (unionised politics). That's the vision - self-enrichment no matter how much the collective rots away in the centre.
I left same year and your right it hasn't changed and worse still. Sons and daughters of the government when we left running it now and it's got worse. Class system runs the state and still does.
He only speaks the truth! He is in touch with reality, Tubridy is not he is a "dunce" and a knob head! Just because he is on a big salary does not mean the country is not a "kip" or dump, because it is. Greed has brought us down and bad govering or the lack of it! I am sick of hearing about all these new charges, people are driven to depression and suicide, this will only rise! I for one will not hang around for that! I love Éire as a country but not how it is run or what it has become.
Not Dunphy's biggest fan, but he hits the nail on the head here. As for that streak of piss foolishly trying to pin him down with silly questions: a fourteen year old could have done better, yet he's payed the bones of €€€half a million!!!
I live in a rural area and most of the young people I know who have a high standard of education have all emigrated and those that have stayed are planning to leave too. The reasons are many but mostly its the housing crisis. People in their 30s who have had to move back in with their parents because they can't afford to pay rent.
Dunphy is 100% right. Look at the Gombeen politicians we elect in, a huge majority are teachers. What the fuck is a primary school teacher doing running the country.
I couldn’t agree more Eamon, You said exactly what most of us think, thank God, I have another country to escape to! This used to be a country I was proud to be from, not anymore!!
Dunphy should run for office He would make a good T-SHOCK And he is right PARISH PUMP POLITICS AND GOMBEEN MEN The 3 H's Housing Homelessness Hospital overruns - over two BILLION for a Childrens HOSPITAL
Eamonn is on the ball on this one have to hand it to him. I know it's not nice hearing your county being describes a kip, but it is. I have traveled over 50 countries and there are very, very few of them where I dont fell safe walking around on my own at nigh. Most places in Dublin sadly fall into that category, including many 'posh' south side districts. And as for regional towns, many are just as bad. Greed, alcohol abuse, lack of respect for fellow humans, lack of social skills.
This idiocy of 'talking up the country' both avoids ever changing anything and also leads to a lack of confidence and belief, because not acknowledging what is wrong just makes our establishment look both corrupt and incompetent. 'Putting on the Green Jersey' does in reality mean taking a very long and hard look at ourselves and stopping all the behaviours that don't work and never will work.
Ok, he may not be 100% correct, but he has made some valid points to be fair. Teachers and politicians - there's a lot to be said on that point alone. It's quite funny how politicians lecture us on how we should live our lives - well, isn't that what teachers do - lecture us? For example, we are constantly lectured about driving our cars too much, but why don't they lecture themselves on the subject of proper planning and the merits of serious rail investment - ah no, they'd rather not put their money where their mouths are and instead just make us cycle (cheap isn't it) - after all, aren't they the teachers and aren't we supposed to do what we're told??? I think not!!! Then there's the cost of living and the quality of services and on that point, this country is quite a dump. The question is, how do they get away with it??? Apathy and selfishness is the answer! I for one am not proud of this country and the people who died in 1916 would be turning in their graves - the Irish people are collectively a disgrace and do not deserve their sacrifice!
What follows is my take on our problems. some are not of our making but most are. If I look at it, the main problem we have in this country is that we are not capable of taking responsibility for what and who we are - we have to blame others. We have developed a drink 'culture' to accompany this irresponsibility. Not only that but we don't even recognise that we have character defects as people. We can't honestly see what is wrong with us. Island mentality pervades here. Our historical narrative is that we are victims of Britain and ultimately everything wrong with us is their fault. Yet we have been 'free' for close on a hundred years and our country is as Dunphy describes - a total kip. Why? Since independence, political ineptitude and greed and shortsightedness delayed the creation of a working economy. we had no intellectuals ready for when the Brits left. Greed took over. The worst part of what we are as a people took over in devalera and Fianna Fail and filled the moral and political vacuum and this in my opinion was the beginning of the end of us - the enemy within has been FF and we still can't see through them. Since we had no plan made out for independence, no economy except agriculture, our people remained very poor and only the lucky ones finished primary school. There was no secondary school as such and therefore, our people were not capable of developing a healthy intellectual elite to critique political and religious corruption so endemic in our society but completely unchallenged effectively until the late eighties.The continued drain of our youngest and brightest people to emigration means those who could/would bring in change, slowly but surely didn't have the sense of patriotic pride to create a decent country, but gave their talents to other counties. throughout our hundred years freedom, only cute hoors have put themselves forward for election, but being a parochial, tribal country, we didn't recognise or question the values essential in good politicians - if we had done this, we would have elected better people. Our values as a people have ultimately turned out to be nothing more than pure materialism - as soon as we got money, we threw God out of our lives. Too few people have any sense of faith or belief in God and barely anyone practices. We believe in money, stuff and generally are very self-centred. When our ancestors were persecuted for being catholics, they didn't desert their faith. But us? Our generation is a whore. Nothing more. So, to summarise what is very complex, I believe that we need to question our historical narrative more - the enemy is within. It's not the Brits and never was (although they were admittedly brutal and heartless.) We need to recognise that our greed and selfishness define what we are today. Just look at what we do to asylum seekers and there you have us. Look at the model of secondary education we inflict on our teenagers. Look at the bloated salaries teachers expect for little over 22 hours. Look at how unions are destroying us - they run this dump into the ground year on year and get away with it because we don't have even one single politician who actually cares about us. Not one. No, I've decided that it's not all of them. It's me. It's us. we are all the problem. Would appreciate your thoughts. Show less REPLY
I usually hate Dunphy but he's spot on here. The only problem I have with him is that he is great at spotting the flaws and handing out the critisism, whether it be the Irish national squad or the government. Why the fuck doesn't he enter the race? President of Ireland or manager of the national team. Let's see if he can do a better job. We've nothing to lose. Fuck it, he can bring fat Liam Brady as his right hand man. In the government too!
Civil unrest will not sort the basic problem in Ireland. People in Ireland think that the government should do everything. Provide them with free education and Health care. Yet these things are not free they have to be taken of the workers and entrepreneurs and then given back to them at a tenth of their value. No amount of protests will change this.
if he went on the radio everyday giving out shit about Ireland he would have been sacked fairly quickly I'd say, and if not, someone who is not an "expert" on such subjects people dismiss so he would have had no listeners. He;s not an economist or a politician but he talks a lot of sense.
I didn't imply that. what I said was that why ireland seems to have a low maternal mortality rate is because thousands of irish mothers leave their country every year to have abortions abroad and if they die in the process in those places it does not reflect back in ireland's statistics. also the statistics themselves have recently come under question for other reason and it turns out lots of deaths were not reported but it turns out it was from suicides, pig flu, cardiac arrests ect.
Compared to life now in 2024 lreland,,,,,,,,,,back in 2012 lreland was paradise ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,We still have bigger Dunces today,,,,,,,,,,,Matin still here
The bit where you imagine Irish women go abroad to have babies. Ireland has the lowest infant mortality rates. You seem to think abortions are counted as deaths.
Eamonn can be annoying regarding football but I actually loved this he is so right and not afraid to say it - thankyou Eamonn Dunphy for standing up for those who have nothing -
I have to agree with you. We're doing something economically stupid (yet again) and there isn't even a new political party on the horizon. The majority of people are sleepwalking through it all: they don't want to know.
Well why was he not talking about this 10 years ago. People like him were well aware of what was happening in Ireland and said nothing. Well Dunphy may have had a few words but not loudly enough.
cutting communion and confirmation grants? This is hardly the most important thing. Think about it people are working 40 hour weeks and then paying some of the highest taxes in europe and this was pre collapse. And then the government gives the people grants back from the taxes. This makes no sense at all. Ireland current tax intake from vat and income tax is about 21 billion and this amount of money is worth about 1.5m jobs and there is 500,000 unemployed.
What follows is my take on our problems. some are not of our making but most are. If I look at it, the main problem we have in this country is that we are not capable of taking responsibility for what and who we are - we have to blame others. We have developed a drink 'culture' to accompany this irresponsibility. Not only that but we don't even recognise that we have character defects as people. We can't honestly see what is wrong with us. Island mentality pervades here. Our historical narrative is that we are victims of Britain and ultimately everything wrong with us is their fault. Yet we have been 'free' for close on a hundred years and our country is as Dunphy describes - a total kip. Why? Since independence, political ineptitude and greed and shortsightedness delayed the creation of a working economy. we had no intellectuals ready for when the Brits left. Greed took over. The worst part of what we are as a people took over in devalera and Fianna Fail and filled the moral and political vacuum and this in my opinion was the beginning of the end of us - the enemy within has been FF and we still can't see through them. Since we had no plan made out for independence, no economy except agriculture, our people remained very poor and only the lucky ones finished primary school. There was no secondary school as such and therefore, our people were not capable of developing a healthy intellectual elite to critique political and religious corruption so endemic in our society but completely unchallenged effectively until the late eighties.The continued drain of our youngest and brightest people to emigration means those who could/would bring in change, slowly but surely didn't have the sense of patriotic pride to create a decent country, but gave their talents to other counties. throughout our hundred years freedom, only cute hoors have put themselves forward for election, but being a parochial, tribal country, we didn't recognise or question the values essential in good politicians - if we had done this, we would have elected better people. Our values as a people have ultimately turned out to be nothing more than pure materialism - as soon as we got money, we threw God out of our lives. Too few people have any sense of faith or belief in God and barely anyone practices. We believe in money, stuff and generally are very self-centred. When our ancestors were persecuted for being catholics, they didn't desert their faith. But us? Our generation is a whore. Nothing more. So, to summarise what is very complex, I believe that we need to question our historical narrative more - the enemy is within. It's not the Brits and never was (although they were admittedly brutal and heartless.) We need to recognise that our greed and selfishness define what we are today. Just look at what we do to asylum seekers and there you have us. Look at the model of secondary education we inflict on our teenagers. Look at the bloated salaries teachers expect for little over 22 hours. Look at how unions are destroying us - they run this dump into the ground year on year and get away with it because we don't have even one single politician who actually cares about us. Not one. No, I've decided that it's not all of them. It's me. It's us. we are all the problem. Would appreciate your thoughts.
I agree with most of what you said, but I think you forget that the majority of Irish people do have a sense of ethnic solidarity with one another. There are numerous traitors among our ranks who will sell us out and are doing so right now for their own greed, and this has always been the case throughout our history, but I think for the most part Irish people aren't as apathetic as you think. Sure we may not have the protesting culture that exists in France as an example, but I believe that the Irish people are being fed lies by the established media, such as RTÉ, Newstalk, The Irish Independant, The Journal.ie, etc. It's unfortunate that we do give idiots more consideration than they are worth, but I think there is a silent majority out there that are watching and waiting. Unfortunately watching and waiting for a moment that may or may not come seems like it will be our downfall. The last election showed us that the Irish people were not sure who to vote for, and I think that it will be the same case this time around unless a new party appears. That may seem short sighted, but I think that more Irish people are becoming awoken everyday of the lies in which or national media tell us in order to sow the seeds of division among our population. I have to say that this country is a kip and I agree with everything you said but I disagree with the fact you said that the people are the problem when it is in fact the diss-information and lies that's the problem. Would also love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks senzer69. What lies are we being told by the media for example? What I remember about the last twenty years is this: when i was 17 I got a waitress job at the start of the Celtic tiger years and all I remember is the overcharging that went with mediocre food and poor service. It was standard, like an entitlement mentality to do that - no one in the business thought anything about the morality of it or said anything. No one dared or had the courage to rock the boat and call it out for what it was. Incidentally that was one such fancy restaurant built specifically to 'welcome' rich Americans and is now boarded up, no doubt in Nama and guess what? The ripped off Americans haven't returned - once bitten and all that. Overpriced bubble buildings flying up everywhere but no planning no care as to the environmental impact, no standards. No one raising questions. Everywhere people buying overpriced clothes and getting into so much debt having to be like everyone else. Now we know the reality. our country is destroyed and what was it all about? It wasn't the greed of a few - it was all our greed and materialism. The real god we always believed in was finally being worshipped by all of us. It all ended up being the god of self and mammon. Why do I really think that? How many people were warning the politicians to put away money and focus on long term infrastructure projects? People didn't care a jot for any of that because they were getting bags load of money for no extra productivity and were able to go to Gran Canaria and buy apartments etc. The reality is that we had *one* or two at most economists amongst hundreds of overpaid lettered college folks warning the govt of the bubble and we know what happened next. Since then, have we looked into ourselves and questioned why this happened to us? Has one person stood up and said it to the Irish people as it was? Not one. A million Prime Times and Vincent Browne shows all about blaming the Central bank, Neary, Ahern, EU, ECB, IMF, but never questioning ourselves and our greed. Enda Kenny suggested we 'went mad' a few years back and he wasn't wrong, but of course he was lambasted for it. The same thing is happening now except we are 200bn in debt, have thousands homeless, overdependent on American multinationals and again all this shows that we haven't learnt a single thing. Everyone else continues to be the fault. I don't see that every changing. We are not 'good' or moral. Too much selfishness still and to have a decent society, people need to be thinking of ways in which to make the lives of their own compatriots better by staying, contributing here and changing but even though we pay for doctors to train, they go off elsewhere same with nurses. teachers are pretty much the biggest fraudsters going with their contracts - no one wants to reform in the public sector. They all want want want but there is no give. Politicians don't want to challenge because their gravy train beats them all..we are greedy senzer and we will never change. IT's too late.
British Isles it's not too late. I think you hit the nail on the head when you said that we are overdependent on American multinationals to prop up our economy at the expense of Irish small and medium enterprises, and our economy is effectively built on sand because of this ( As an aside I think our economy will crumble when these companies pull out of Ireland during the next big global crisis). However, I agree with what you have said about the public sector, the unions, the greed, all of the above, but that is a top down problem. I too have first hand experience working in the public sector and seeing the waste and sheer greed of some of the people working there. But this is a top down problem. Take Britain for example, sentencing a politician to prison because he falsely claimed expenses for around €2500, that would never happen here. I hate the fact that in this country, we have a 'sure that will be grand' attitude, and this comes for the top down at all levels. From what you have written above you seem to be referencing 'Crony Capitalism', that's when you have far too much government interference in the markets. Ireland has a crony capitalistic mindset because of big government, that is interfering far too much in the economy. Take the housing bubble for example that's being caused by government interference. Our dependance on American multinationals is caused by government interference, just look at the Apple case for instance and their special treatment. The fact is that the Government is interfering far too much in our economy and society, and is allowing this cronyism to foster at every level. Real capitalism is the answer, letting the free market decide in order to lower prices and get a better quality of life. We have lost our faith as a society and that is a shame to see, but right now it's a race to the bottom caused by government interference on a local, national and european level. British Isles I do not think it's too late, something will give, maybe it's because I'm an optimist or just stupid. But this is a top down problem, I'm not looking at someone to blame, we as a society are to blame.
Interesting thoughts. Have never really considered this crony capitalist thing to be honest and if what you're saying is in the line of Michael O'Leary's ideas about letting the market drive then I'm with you. I'm no economist me. Just wondering if we are too small and parochial a country to have a purer capitalist model? Is this why we have such a bloated ineffective, lazy and greedy public sector, which functions for they in jobs and not the taxpayer who pays for it? Look at health, education, garda siochana and civil service - these are not administered for the public welfare and top down require root and branch reforms with stringent accountability attached but the govt won't touch that or any other measure which will address these - because these measures may have to include their own accountability. We need a leader in the line of Thatcher yet there is no recognition of this, no one who seems to understand this here. We need a type of person we seem not to cultivate in Ireland - people whose studies and intellects are formed by higher moral order (conscience? ) reasoning. I can't think of even one person in Ireland that inspires me with hope. that's why I feel so negative to be honest. But then again this reminds me that we are less than 100 years old and maybe we can start that new political party or something - if I'm the problem, then I'm the solution...thanks..
I'm not talking about white rich men, I'm talking about the average person in Africa has an awful life compared to average people in modern Ireland and we have have people who take it for granted and also do a lot of complaining without actually doing anything about it but in fairness, I do agree with you a bit. I think some things here are not as good as they could be, like there's barely nothing here for mental illness and hospitals are not that good but good luck to you.
Dunphy has the balls to speak the truth and Tubridy doesn't like that
@ Theo McDonald
He was attacking politicians, not teachers.
Just another establishment hack
@@paulmccarthy3547 The teachers in this country suck too.
Easy for Tubridy on a half a million a year to quibble.
Put him on €200 pw for a year, he'd soon change his tune.
Eamon is all talk. Armchair general
This is one of the reasons Eamon was sacked from rte, you can't be telling the truth on tv
I agree with you on that point but to describe one's country as a dump and a kip is totally disgraceful to the extreme
Over a decade later and he's still absolutely spot on. In Ireland today, even if you're lucky enough to get a good education and a job, if you earn less than 40 grand a year, then you're choices are either emigration or living in your parents gaff until your 30's. Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil have run the country into the ground time and time again and somehow people keep voting for them
You'd be lucky to get a job even paying 40k. Plus you'd need far more to afford a mortgage
ryan turbidy doesnt know what its like to be a normal person eamon dunphy is spot on and he really sticks up for the ordinary guys in this country good on you eamon dunphy
He's not wrong.
And he's still not wrong
@@alanmonaghan30 yep
And years later it's as big a kip as ever.
@Willem theDragonmaster With a name like Willem, I'm guessing you're not Irish... the fact that an Irish complaining about migration being utterly ironic is just another clue... 🤦
Much bigger kip
Going from bad to worse
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out
Dissent is the highest form of patriotism!
Ten years on and nothing has changed.Everything Eamon said there was spot on and all the issues he pointed out there are still there today.
its worse then ever
@@declanmurphy417 And his comments regarding teachers are more relevant than ever.
@@dMoniker correct
You can argue Ireland is a kip, but if it's a kip now, then it was always a kip. Let's not pretend it was all sunshine and rainbows in the 30s/50s/80s.
It's a very insecure little nation, everyone just wants to be liked and do the acceptable thing. Even drinking, if someone stops drinking they are "making a statement" but they aren't, it's just everyone's insecure about someone being happy not to drink that they round on them, and its like that with everything. No one is allowed to think as an individual and individual's are the people who lead the way. Teamwork's there sure, but teams don't have ONE clear vision, everything gets clustered.
That's actually insightful. But no one has a vision because we rule ourselves through mutually understood contracts of unmitigated greed (unionised politics). That's the vision - self-enrichment no matter how much the collective rots away in the centre.
@@tomgallagher7870 one or seven points there i wouldn't argue with.
I take it you quit drinking. It's been 8 years since your comment, how are things?
Sometimes Dunphy is spot on the money. He should have asked Tubridy if there is a meritocracy at RTE while was at it.
Tubridy is such a plonker, towing the party line. Dunphy, love him or hate him, is bang on.
I left in 1985 and never came back. Dunphy is right. And will you listen to Tubridy - "I hate hearing that". Do you, yeah. Well it's fucking true.
I left same year and your right it hasn't changed and worse still. Sons and daughters of the government when we left running it now and it's got worse. Class system runs the state and still does.
@@gerardhackett4845 Thanks for not coming back! 😗
@@BerghemDeSura And when you arrive?
@@BerghemDeSura And when did you Arrive to judge me .
well said eamonn...i totally agree.....
He only speaks the truth! He is in touch with reality, Tubridy is not he is a "dunce" and a knob head! Just because he is on a big salary does not mean the country is not a "kip" or dump, because it is. Greed has brought us down and bad govering or the lack of it! I am sick of hearing about all these new charges, people are driven to depression and suicide, this will only rise! I for one will not hang around for that! I love Éire as a country but not how it is run or what it has become.
Hes right about teacher's running the place,Could you imagine if Michael o Leary was minister of finance the amount of waste that would be cut out!
The Ireland I grew up in the 1990s use to be nice Ireland is not a nice country anymore
Not Dunphy's biggest fan, but he hits the nail on the head here.
As for that streak of piss foolishly trying to pin him down with silly questions: a fourteen year old could have done better, yet he's payed the bones of €€€half a million!!!
Not any more 😂
@@jdig1984 Thankfully.
Fair play to you Eamonn it is a dump
Leave then...
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I live in a rural area and most of the young people I know who have a high standard of education have all emigrated and those that have stayed are planning to leave too. The reasons are many but mostly its the housing crisis. People in their 30s who have had to move back in with their parents because they can't afford to pay rent.
BRILLIANT ! ! ! Dunphy tells it as it is - again.
Eamon dunphy is right tho
Dunphy is 100% right. Look at the Gombeen politicians we elect in, a huge majority are teachers. What the fuck is a primary school teacher doing running the country.
This man is BANG ON
He wont refuse his big fat cheques from the country refers to as a kip and a dump
when he says dump sure we all say that irish slang he loves his country just not what its become.
It's surprising RTE didn't block this!
The truth hurts
I like Dunphy, least he speaks his mind.
He isnt wrong. Country is a total joke. Soon as flights start going i will be leaving and definitely not coming back
@I ❤ M@ .. but nothing has changed...
I couldn’t agree more Eamon, You said exactly what most of us think, thank God, I have another country to escape to! This used to be a country I was proud to be from, not anymore!!
Thank goodness you've somewhere else to go Helen... don't be in any rush to come back now! 🙄
@@BerghemDeSura you've said this on numerous posts.. accept that people want better and can't get it here..
This has aged well.
couldn't have said it better myself
10 years later, what's changed?
Love Eamon. His honesty is rare. Tubridy come across as he is, a shallow gimp.
He’s speaking facts!
He is indeed Susan
Disgraceful to hear anybody referring to their country as a dump or a kip totally and outrightly disgraceful
He's right
I thought he was a prick for saying this at the time. 10 years later I wholeheartedly agree with him
He seen what was coming.
well done Eamonn...you fucking said it! but not enough people listen.
Dunphy should run for office
He would make a good T-SHOCK
And he is right PARISH PUMP POLITICS AND GOMBEEN MEN
The 3 H's Housing Homelessness Hospital overruns - over two BILLION for a Childrens HOSPITAL
yeah but the media doesnt want to publish that talk...he has the balls to say it on national television though...fair play he speaks his mind!
He was right. And it's an even bigger dump now.
2022 and still a kip .
I thought Ireland is doing quite well
He was right
Eamonn is on the ball on this one have to hand it to him. I know it's not nice hearing your county being describes a kip, but it is. I have traveled over 50 countries and there are very, very few of them where I dont fell safe walking around on my own at nigh. Most places in Dublin sadly fall into that category, including many 'posh' south side districts. And as for regional towns, many are just as bad. Greed, alcohol abuse, lack of respect for fellow humans, lack of social skills.
This idiocy of 'talking up the country' both avoids ever changing anything and also leads to a lack of confidence and belief, because not acknowledging what is wrong just makes our establishment look both corrupt and incompetent. 'Putting on the Green Jersey' does in reality mean taking a very long and hard look at ourselves and stopping all the behaviours that don't work and never will work.
He speaks the truth! Tuberty disagrees wit him there because of his huge pay he’s getting even back then! Untill now!
Fucking spot on
Ok, he may not be 100% correct, but he has made some valid points to be fair. Teachers and politicians - there's a lot to be said on that point alone. It's quite funny how politicians lecture us on how we should live our lives - well, isn't that what teachers do - lecture us? For example, we are constantly lectured about driving our cars too much, but why don't they lecture themselves on the subject of proper planning and the merits of serious rail investment - ah no, they'd rather not put their money where their mouths are and instead just make us cycle (cheap isn't it) - after all, aren't they the teachers and aren't we supposed to do what we're told??? I think not!!! Then there's the cost of living and the quality of services and on that point, this country is quite a dump. The question is, how do they get away with it??? Apathy and selfishness is the answer! I for one am not proud of this country and the people who died in 1916 would be turning in their graves - the Irish people are collectively a disgrace and do not deserve their sacrifice!
What follows is my take on our problems. some are not of our making but most are. If I look at it, the main problem we have in this country is that we are not capable of taking responsibility for what and who we are - we have to blame others. We have developed a drink 'culture' to accompany this irresponsibility. Not only that but we don't even recognise that we have character defects as people. We can't honestly see what is wrong with us. Island mentality pervades here. Our historical narrative is that we are victims of Britain and ultimately everything wrong with us is their fault. Yet we have been 'free' for close on a hundred years and our country is as Dunphy describes - a total kip. Why? Since independence, political ineptitude and greed and shortsightedness delayed the creation of a working economy. we had no intellectuals ready for when the Brits left. Greed took over. The worst part of what we are as a people took over in devalera and Fianna Fail and filled the moral and political vacuum and this in my opinion was the beginning of the end of us - the enemy within has been FF and we still can't see through them. Since we had no plan made out for independence, no economy except agriculture, our people remained very poor and only the lucky ones finished primary school. There was no secondary school as such and therefore, our people were not capable of developing a healthy intellectual elite to critique political and religious corruption so endemic in our society but completely unchallenged effectively until the late eighties.The continued drain of our youngest and brightest people to emigration means those who could/would bring in change, slowly but surely didn't have the sense of patriotic pride to create a decent country, but gave their talents to other counties. throughout our hundred years freedom, only cute hoors have put themselves forward for election, but being a parochial, tribal country, we didn't recognise or question the values essential in good politicians - if we had done this, we would have elected better people. Our values as a people have ultimately turned out to be nothing more than pure materialism - as soon as we got money, we threw God out of our lives. Too few people have any sense of faith or belief in God and barely anyone practices. We believe in money, stuff and generally are very self-centred. When our ancestors were persecuted for being catholics, they didn't desert their faith. But us? Our generation is a whore. Nothing more. So, to summarise what is very complex, I believe that we need to question our historical narrative more - the enemy is within. It's not the Brits and never was (although they were admittedly brutal and heartless.) We need to recognise that our greed and selfishness define what we are today. Just look at what we do to asylum seekers and there you have us. Look at the model of secondary education we inflict on our teenagers. Look at the bloated salaries teachers expect for little over 22 hours. Look at how unions are destroying us - they run this dump into the ground year on year and get away with it because we don't have even one single politician who actually cares about us. Not one. No, I've decided that it's not all of them. It's me. It's us. we are all the problem. Would appreciate your thoughts.
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I usually hate Dunphy but he's spot on here. The only problem I have with him is that he is great at spotting the flaws and handing out the critisism, whether it be the Irish national squad or the government. Why the fuck doesn't he enter the race? President of Ireland or manager of the national team. Let's see if he can do a better job. We've nothing to lose. Fuck it, he can bring fat Liam Brady as his right hand man. In the government too!
I totally admit Ireland is in a total mess but to describe Ireland as a, dump and a kip is disgracefull to the absolute extremely totally disgraceful
Civil unrest will not sort the basic problem in Ireland.
People in Ireland think that the government should do everything. Provide them with free education and Health care. Yet these things are not free they have to be taken of the workers and entrepreneurs and then given back to them at a tenth of their value.
No amount of protests will change this.
And it's a hundred times worse now.
if he went on the radio everyday giving out shit about Ireland he would have been sacked fairly quickly I'd say, and if not, someone who is not an "expert" on such subjects people dismiss so he would have had no listeners. He;s not an economist or a politician but he talks a lot of sense.
We have some of the most brilliant people and some of the most brilliant whingers. :)
And you Ryan typify why it is just that.
Well said Eamonn Dunphy 👍
Dead right I had to leave the country for work cause there was none there .
the best always seem to leave. Wot's never said though is - Is it the Cute Twats that stay.
I didn't imply that. what I said was that why ireland seems to have a low maternal mortality rate is because thousands of irish mothers leave their country every year to have abortions abroad and if they die in the process in those places it does not reflect back in ireland's statistics. also the statistics themselves have recently come under question for other reason and it turns out lots of deaths were not reported but it turns out it was from suicides, pig flu, cardiac arrests ect.
dead right well said
How right he was !
whats not to like when you're paid 450,000 a year !
* €495,000
hear hear
True then, true today, true tomorrow as well I reckon.
I left 3 years ago, get out of there guys you'll go mad!!!!
Don't be in any rush to come back now!
Wow he is on the money in retrospect
Compared to life now in 2024 lreland,,,,,,,,,,back in 2012 lreland was paradise ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,We still have bigger Dunces today,,,,,,,,,,,Matin still here
He's right!
The bit where you imagine Irish women go abroad to have babies. Ireland has the lowest infant mortality rates. You seem to think abortions are counted as deaths.
Imagine to refer to ones country as a kip absolutely unbelievable
Beautiful scenery but yes its a total kip dump cesspit
There's a boat in the morning...
@@BerghemDeSura I'm not aloud travel because I didn't take the convid1984 vaccines
Eamonn can be annoying regarding football but I actually loved this he is so right and not afraid to say it - thankyou Eamonn Dunphy for standing up for those who have nothing -
Why has Ireland never produced a radical Labour based political party?
dunphy is the truth
eamo is bang on and its got worse in 2023. Ryan Tubridy was always a government mouth .
Eamon 👌👌👌
Spot on eamon
Dunphy was part of the media as well.
fianna fail went back down to second in a recent poll. just saying. although, the fact that theyre second is still an insult.
Correct eamon there nothing in ireland no employment no probber housing no decent education in this country
Now 2023 and even a bigger kip getting worse by the day. And they would leave anyone in here regardless
Still true in 2024... dunces in the Dáil and the poor are sleeping rough
It is a dump ..
how many years ago was this ??
Getting worse by the day too
self praise is no praise
I have to agree with you. We're doing something economically stupid (yet again) and there isn't even a new political party on the horizon. The majority of people are sleepwalking through it all: they don't want to know.
Well why was he not talking about this 10 years ago. People like him were well aware of what was happening in Ireland and said nothing. Well Dunphy may have had a few words but not loudly enough.
cutting communion and confirmation grants?
This is hardly the most important thing.
Think about it people are working 40 hour weeks and then paying some of the highest taxes in europe and this was pre collapse.
And then the government gives the people grants back from the taxes. This makes no sense at all.
Ireland current tax intake from vat and income tax is about 21 billion and this amount of money is worth about 1.5m jobs and there is 500,000 unemployed.
He's right....
But he is still living in this kip and dump why the hell doesn't he emigrate he wont refuse his big fat pay cheques from this kip
He's got a house in France, and spends a lot of time there.
Banana. Republic. End of.
Banana republic without the banana's.
What follows is my take on our problems. some are not of our making but most are. If I look at it, the main problem we have in this country is that we are not capable of taking responsibility for what and who we are - we have to blame others. We have developed a drink 'culture' to accompany this irresponsibility. Not only that but we don't even recognise that we have character defects as people. We can't honestly see what is wrong with us. Island mentality pervades here. Our historical narrative is that we are victims of Britain and ultimately everything wrong with us is their fault. Yet we have been 'free' for close on a hundred years and our country is as Dunphy describes - a total kip. Why? Since independence, political ineptitude and greed and shortsightedness delayed the creation of a working economy. we had no intellectuals ready for when the Brits left. Greed took over. The worst part of what we are as a people took over in devalera and Fianna Fail and filled the moral and political vacuum and this in my opinion was the beginning of the end of us - the enemy within has been FF and we still can't see through them. Since we had no plan made out for independence, no economy except agriculture, our people remained very poor and only the lucky ones finished primary school. There was no secondary school as such and therefore, our people were not capable of developing a healthy intellectual elite to critique political and religious corruption so endemic in our society but completely unchallenged effectively until the late eighties.The continued drain of our youngest and brightest people to emigration means those who could/would bring in change, slowly but surely didn't have the sense of patriotic pride to create a decent country, but gave their talents to other counties. throughout our hundred years freedom, only cute hoors have put themselves forward for election, but being a parochial, tribal country, we didn't recognise or question the values essential in good politicians - if we had done this, we would have elected better people. Our values as a people have ultimately turned out to be nothing more than pure materialism - as soon as we got money, we threw God out of our lives. Too few people have any sense of faith or belief in God and barely anyone practices. We believe in money, stuff and generally are very self-centred. When our ancestors were persecuted for being catholics, they didn't desert their faith. But us? Our generation is a whore. Nothing more. So, to summarise what is very complex, I believe that we need to question our historical narrative more - the enemy is within. It's not the Brits and never was (although they were admittedly brutal and heartless.) We need to recognise that our greed and selfishness define what we are today. Just look at what we do to asylum seekers and there you have us. Look at the model of secondary education we inflict on our teenagers. Look at the bloated salaries teachers expect for little over 22 hours. Look at how unions are destroying us - they run this dump into the ground year on year and get away with it because we don't have even one single politician who actually cares about us. Not one. No, I've decided that it's not all of them. It's me. It's us. we are all the problem. Would appreciate your thoughts.
I agree with most of what you said, but I think you forget that the majority of Irish people do have a sense of ethnic solidarity with one another. There are numerous traitors among our ranks who will sell us out and are doing so right now for their own greed, and this has always been the case throughout our history, but I think for the most part Irish people aren't as apathetic as you think. Sure we may not have the protesting culture that exists in France as an example, but I believe that the Irish people are being fed lies by the established media, such as RTÉ, Newstalk, The Irish Independant, The Journal.ie, etc. It's unfortunate that we do give idiots more consideration than they are worth, but I think there is a silent majority out there that are watching and waiting. Unfortunately watching and waiting for a moment that may or may not come seems like it will be our downfall. The last election showed us that the Irish people were not sure who to vote for, and I think that it will be the same case this time around unless a new party appears. That may seem short sighted, but I think that more Irish people are becoming awoken everyday of the lies in which or national media tell us in order to sow the seeds of division among our population. I have to say that this country is a kip and I agree with everything you said but I disagree with the fact you said that the people are the problem when it is in fact the diss-information and lies that's the problem. Would also love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks senzer69. What lies are we being told by the media for example? What I remember about the last twenty years is this: when i was 17 I got a waitress job at the start of the Celtic tiger years and all I remember is the overcharging that went with mediocre food and poor service. It was standard, like an entitlement mentality to do that - no one in the business thought anything about the morality of it or said anything. No one dared or had the courage to rock the boat and call it out for what it was. Incidentally that was one such fancy restaurant built specifically to 'welcome' rich Americans and is now boarded up, no doubt in Nama and guess what? The ripped off Americans haven't returned - once bitten and all that. Overpriced bubble buildings flying up everywhere but no planning no care as to the environmental impact, no standards. No one raising questions. Everywhere people buying overpriced clothes and getting into so much debt having to be like everyone else. Now we know the reality. our country is destroyed and what was it all about? It wasn't the greed of a few - it was all our greed and materialism. The real god we always believed in was finally being worshipped by all of us. It all ended up being the god of self and mammon. Why do I really think that? How many people were warning the politicians to put away money and focus on long term infrastructure projects? People didn't care a jot for any of that because they were getting bags load of money for no extra productivity and were able to go to Gran Canaria and buy apartments etc. The reality is that we had *one* or two at most economists amongst hundreds of overpaid lettered college folks warning the govt of the bubble and we know what happened next. Since then, have we looked into ourselves and questioned why this happened to us? Has one person stood up and said it to the Irish people as it was? Not one. A million Prime Times and Vincent Browne shows all about blaming the Central bank, Neary, Ahern, EU, ECB, IMF, but never questioning ourselves and our greed. Enda Kenny suggested we 'went mad' a few years back and he wasn't wrong, but of course he was lambasted for it. The same thing is happening now except we are 200bn in debt, have thousands homeless, overdependent on American multinationals and again all this shows that we haven't learnt a single thing. Everyone else continues to be the fault. I don't see that every changing. We are not 'good' or moral. Too much selfishness still and to have a decent society, people need to be thinking of ways in which to make the lives of their own compatriots better by staying, contributing here and changing but even though we pay for doctors to train, they go off elsewhere same with nurses. teachers are pretty much the biggest fraudsters going with their contracts - no one wants to reform in the public sector. They all want want want but there is no give. Politicians don't want to challenge because their gravy train beats them all..we are greedy senzer and we will never change. IT's too late.
British Isles it's not too late. I think you hit the nail on the head when you said that we are overdependent on American multinationals to prop up our economy at the expense of Irish small and medium enterprises, and our economy is effectively built on sand because of this ( As an aside I think our economy will crumble when these companies pull out of Ireland during the next big global crisis). However, I agree with what you have said about the public sector, the unions, the greed, all of the above, but that is a top down problem. I too have first hand experience working in the public sector and seeing the waste and sheer greed of some of the people working there. But this is a top down problem. Take Britain for example, sentencing a politician to prison because he falsely claimed expenses for around €2500, that would never happen here. I hate the fact that in this country, we have a 'sure that will be grand' attitude, and this comes for the top down at all levels. From what you have written above you seem to be referencing 'Crony Capitalism', that's when you have far too much government interference in the markets. Ireland has a crony capitalistic mindset because of big government, that is interfering far too much in the economy. Take the housing bubble for example that's being caused by government interference. Our dependance on American multinationals is caused by government interference, just look at the Apple case for instance and their special treatment. The fact is that the Government is interfering far too much in our economy and society, and is allowing this cronyism to foster at every level. Real capitalism is the answer, letting the free market decide in order to lower prices and get a better quality of life. We have lost our faith as a society and that is a shame to see, but right now it's a race to the bottom caused by government interference on a local, national and european level. British Isles I do not think it's too late, something will give, maybe it's because I'm an optimist or just stupid. But this is a top down problem, I'm not looking at someone to blame, we as a society are to blame.
Interesting thoughts. Have never really considered this crony capitalist thing to be honest and if what you're saying is in the line of Michael O'Leary's ideas about letting the market drive then I'm with you. I'm no economist me. Just wondering if we are too small and parochial a country to have a purer capitalist model? Is this why we have such a bloated ineffective, lazy and greedy public sector, which functions for they in jobs and not the taxpayer who pays for it? Look at health, education, garda siochana and civil service - these are not administered for the public welfare and top down require root and branch reforms with stringent accountability attached but the govt won't touch that or any other measure which will address these - because these measures may have to include their own accountability. We need a leader in the line of Thatcher yet there is no recognition of this, no one who seems to understand this here. We need a type of person we seem not to cultivate in Ireland - people whose studies and intellects are formed by higher moral order (conscience? ) reasoning. I can't think of even one person in Ireland that inspires me with hope. that's why I feel so negative to be honest. But then again this reminds me that we are less than 100 years old and maybe we can start that new political party or something - if I'm the problem, then I'm the solution...thanks..
I would consider looking into the Nationalist Party you can find their speeches here on youtube.
2022 over a thousand families homeless.
I'll check it out
Yeah, and a Northern nationalist is gonna look at this basket case of a country, and vote Yes on a border poll for the love of a flag?!?!
I think not.
He's right, place is a kip,
Totally disgraceful to describe onws country as a dump or a kip unbelievable
Those who can do- those who can't teach
Its now the 21/4/2025 and nothing has changed only worse
I'm not talking about white rich men, I'm talking about the average person in Africa has an awful life compared to average people in modern Ireland and we have have people who take it for granted and also do a lot of complaining without actually doing anything about it but in fairness, I do agree with you a bit. I think some things here are not as good as they could be, like there's barely nothing here for mental illness and hospitals are not that good but good luck to you.
Sorry if my fact hurt your feelings