Teachers hate me because I want to go too much in detail. I just hate how teachers and students try to convince me that understanding the theories behind everything is useless just because I'm not being assigned on it. When did learning become sole about what the exams are testing?
Think it in this perspective, not all the people love the knowledge as you do, for example maybe you consider party all night like something useful, but for other people, the party is fundamental, for you, knowledge is everything is fundamental but for others is useful, don´t let you down with that comments, keep learning is fun =D
I love your INTJ videos. I have struggled in class due to lack of structure, fast pace teaching, and trying to learn EVERYTHING thoroughly. I also, did not ask help from my classmates.
I like structure but only as long as it works. Few things are more frustrating than me watching the teacher more or less clumsily and cunningly trying to use a structure that doesn’t lead anywhere constructive by means of sloooooooow methods. So many times I got the ideas, I saw the goal of a class from the beginning… and then, out of sheer atrocious boredom, I spent the time analysing the teacher’s method, amusing myself by predicting what his/her next move was, how my colleagues would react, noticing all the cracks in the wall and scribbles on the desks etc. And I’m not a genius by any means- imagine how dreadful teaching must have been! 😄
About asking for help from classmates… if they know and can help, yes. Have you ever found yourself in the situation in which you feign ignorance and ask questions reflecting not your own thinking but what your colleagues wished they had the courage to ask, only to speed things up a bit? Some teachers just cannot read the audience and are totally oblivious to loose ends and important questions that hover above everyone like a dense fog. I asked many questions like this that caused some chuckles in my colleagues who were relieved and irritation in the teacher. No, teacher, no, don’t get irritated. You are way too oblivious and too slow. Now, I’ve been thinking long and hard about a few questions to help both my fellow students and help you to move along because I know where you want to get. Yes, I am impatient. Needless to say, I’ve been perceived as arrogant and a pain in the neck. I’m not proud of it, but it was necessary for the lesson and for the preservation of my mental health.
I feel a little less weird about having a learning journal. I have probably written a small library of personal research. I've written hundreds of dissertations and thousands of pages of notes on topics like science, technology, philosophy, economics, and politics as well as others.
me too!! but I think the idea is to share because as INTJ we assume that everybody can see the world like us, and that's not true, share our analysis to other people really help
I have quite a few traumas. The absolute horror when I was told something like ‘You don’t need to understand the whole system, just pick the ideas in the selected pages of the selected books of the selected authors and put together a compelling argument’. I thought I would die that very instant. How can you talk about something you don’t really understand?! The second worst was when I had used other books outside of the selected reading list, only to be told that it was a no-go. Also, I was told that I was too European- ‘We don’t do continental thinking here’. I’m surprised they didn’t fumigate incense (maybe they did after I left 😄) as I was the devil herself threatening the sanctity of their dogmatic, plain nonsense. A few times, they looked at me with suspicion ‘Where did you read that?’ Well, nowhere, I just thought that to be the case. What? Do I look that stupid that you’re surprised at me producing an idea? It was a very frustrating compliment that felt like an insult. One tutor had a word with me. ‘What do you really want?’ My reply was ‘I want to find, not to reproduce and rearrange what others said. And I need to understand properly what each of the authors thought’. ‘Well, in that case this is not for you because we expect that those to whom we give the degree are doing the job to certain specs’. I am paraphrasing, but that was the essence of it. I wanted to say, ‘I am nobody’s monkey to train to do the expected tricks to your specifications. Goodbye’. Only the goodbye part was audible. It’s been an utter nightmare. Give me a system; I will dismantle it and put it back the way it should be. I will explain why one doesn’t work and why the other does work, using all the sticky notes and all the crayons in the world. The reality is that that proved to be too challenging for the others who presented their counter- arguments which were so ghastly that not even them believed what they were saying. So, I was just sitting there, not knowing exactly what to do, but desperately wanting to leave. Others had been saying to me ‘Yeah, you’re right, but it will be rejected. And you will ruffle some feathers’. Well… my teachers were not my friends, and I thought that the whole purpose of the educational endeavour was to learn, discover, invent or at least innovate, not pat each other’s backs whilst talking platitudes and downright nonsense. I’ve learnt the hard way that there’s no point in arguing with fools, but somehow they take offence even when my silence is followed by ‘You’re right. May I go now?’ They probably sense the look in my eyes even though I am keeping them down as a sign of submission in hoping that they will just leave me alone and spare me their presence.
Try to find the salient bits of information and build around them. You probably find biology easier because it’s about organic systems you can relate with more intuitively. Imagine the people who made history, personalise history, think of them as real people who met other people in battle. Imagine what the battle field looked like, what King X liked to eat, the ridiculous voice of a king you don’t like, etc. If you are visual, use visual aids and place schematics slightly above your eye line, on your dominant side. Look up the other way to check if you have memorised it. Or use sounds (cries of battle, whispers between conspirators, sounds of swords being unsheathed, cries of victory) if you’re auditive. Look to your dominant side as if you looked towards your ear. Then check if you remember by looking towards the other ear. If you’re kinaesthetic, every time you read about a war, pick your favourite party in a conflict and associate it with the hand you use most, read aloud the date and place when your party won whilst making a fist and raising it slightly. Talk to yourself and dance the information. If you do it properly and consistently your body will remember the information during the exam/ test. They say that this method is inaccurate but it works for me.
I often not satisfied from my teachers answers to my every questions. The information given to me is not detailed So I have to do my own research from other sources.
Teachers hate me because I want to go too much in detail. I just hate how teachers and students try to convince me that understanding the theories behind everything is useless just because I'm not being assigned on it. When did learning become sole about what the exams are testing?
Think it in this perspective, not all the people love the knowledge as you do, for example maybe you consider party all night like something useful, but for other people, the party is fundamental, for you, knowledge is everything is fundamental but for others is useful, don´t let you down with that comments, keep learning is fun =D
@@KotomiWolf Thank you
I can relate
Glad to know I am not alone
Same dear. It's being a struggle. Nowadays I feel like not giving a shit to the teachers. Just study by my own, damn grateful for the internet😃
I love your INTJ videos. I have struggled in class due to lack of structure, fast pace teaching, and trying to learn EVERYTHING thoroughly. I also, did not ask help from my classmates.
Hahahah same😅
I like structure but only as long as it works. Few things are more frustrating than me watching the teacher more or less clumsily and cunningly trying to use a structure that doesn’t lead anywhere constructive by means of sloooooooow methods. So many times I got the ideas, I saw the goal of a class from the beginning… and then, out of sheer atrocious boredom, I spent the time analysing the teacher’s method, amusing myself by predicting what his/her next move was, how my colleagues would react, noticing all the cracks in the wall and scribbles on the desks etc. And I’m not a genius by any means- imagine how dreadful teaching must have been! 😄
About asking for help from classmates… if they know and can help, yes.
Have you ever found yourself in the situation in which you feign ignorance and ask questions reflecting not your own thinking but what your colleagues wished they had the courage to ask, only to speed things up a bit? Some teachers just cannot read the audience and are totally oblivious to loose ends and important questions that hover above everyone like a dense fog. I asked many questions like this that caused some chuckles in my colleagues who were relieved and irritation in the teacher. No, teacher, no, don’t get irritated. You are way too oblivious and too slow. Now, I’ve been thinking long and hard about a few questions to help both my fellow students and help you to move along because I know where you want to get.
Yes, I am impatient. Needless to say, I’ve been perceived as arrogant and a pain in the neck. I’m not proud of it, but it was necessary for the lesson and for the preservation of my mental health.
I feel a little less weird about having a learning journal. I have probably written a small library of personal research. I've written hundreds of dissertations and thousands of pages of notes on topics like science, technology, philosophy, economics, and politics as well as others.
Congradulations! But. . . What have you actually done? I'm not being judgemental. Reallly. What have you done?
He's learned, that's what he's done. Possibly in-depth enough to teach others about his chosen subject(s).
me too!! but I think the idea is to share because as INTJ we assume that everybody can see the world like us, and that's not true, share our analysis to other people really help
@@KotomiWolfMost people do not want to get it.
I'm an intj I have journals for EVERYTHING
Life
Exam mistakes
Quotes
Learning
I would have more but my parents are fed up with my journal obsession 😬
I have quite a few traumas.
The absolute horror when I was told something like ‘You don’t need to understand the whole system, just pick the ideas in the selected pages of the selected books of the selected authors and put together a compelling argument’. I thought I would die that very instant. How can you talk about something you don’t really understand?!
The second worst was when I had used other books outside of the selected reading list, only to be told that it was a no-go. Also, I was told that I was too European- ‘We don’t do continental thinking here’. I’m surprised they didn’t fumigate incense (maybe they did after I left 😄) as I was the devil herself threatening the sanctity of their dogmatic, plain nonsense.
A few times, they looked at me with suspicion ‘Where did you read that?’ Well, nowhere, I just thought that to be the case. What? Do I look that stupid that you’re surprised at me producing an idea? It was a very frustrating compliment that felt like an insult.
One tutor had a word with me. ‘What do you really want?’ My reply was ‘I want to find, not to reproduce and rearrange what others said. And I need to understand properly what each of the authors thought’. ‘Well, in that case this is not for you because we expect that those to whom we give the degree are doing the job to certain specs’. I am paraphrasing, but that was the essence of it. I wanted to say, ‘I am nobody’s monkey to train to do the expected tricks to your specifications. Goodbye’. Only the goodbye part was audible.
It’s been an utter nightmare.
Give me a system; I will dismantle it and put it back the way it should be. I will explain why one doesn’t work and why the other does work, using all the sticky notes and all the crayons in the world. The reality is that that proved to be too challenging for the others who presented their counter- arguments which were so ghastly that not even them believed what they were saying. So, I was just sitting there, not knowing exactly what to do, but desperately wanting to leave. Others had been saying to me ‘Yeah, you’re right, but it will be rejected. And you will ruffle some feathers’. Well… my teachers were not my friends, and I thought that the whole purpose of the educational endeavour was to learn, discover, invent or at least innovate, not pat each other’s backs whilst talking platitudes and downright nonsense.
I’ve learnt the hard way that there’s no point in arguing with fools, but somehow they take offence even when my silence is followed by ‘You’re right. May I go now?’ They probably sense the look in my eyes even though I am keeping them down as a sign of submission in hoping that they will just leave me alone and spare me their presence.
Thank you so much for those trips. I will try it and study efficiently.
You’re welcome!
Useful, Thank you!
this is so good l learnt a lot
Came here cuz fsr I cannot retain any information for history. But fsr remember random facts (kind of random) for biology
Try to find the salient bits of information and build around them. You probably find biology easier because it’s about organic systems you can relate with more intuitively. Imagine the people who made history, personalise history, think of them as real people who met other people in battle. Imagine what the battle field looked like, what King X liked to eat, the ridiculous voice of a king you don’t like, etc.
If you are visual, use visual aids and place schematics slightly above your eye line, on your dominant side. Look up the other way to check if you have memorised it.
Or use sounds (cries of battle, whispers between conspirators, sounds of swords being unsheathed, cries of victory) if you’re auditive. Look to your dominant side as if you looked towards your ear. Then check if you remember by looking towards the other ear.
If you’re kinaesthetic, every time you read about a war, pick your favourite party in a conflict and associate it with the hand you use most, read aloud the date and place when your party won whilst making a fist and raising it slightly. Talk to yourself and dance the information. If you do it properly and consistently your body will remember the information during the exam/ test.
They say that this method is inaccurate but it works for me.
Thank You!
What i was told by my peers were *must you ask a question", why do you like arguing"
Thank you
Not me watching this because I was make my own study systems.
I often not satisfied from my teachers answers to my every questions. The information given to me is not detailed So I have to do my own research from other sources.
INTJ just sounds like everyone.
😂yas
Its a special kind of weirdness...