1 - An overcoat is *traditionally* worn under a suit. If you do not intend to wear a suit the coat, you have the option to go for a slightly smaller size if you have problems with sleeve length, or its just your preference. 2 - Ashley is somewhat correct in saying that the shoulder width should end just past where your shoulders do. The exception to this is an overcoat with a dropped shoulder. 3 - The notch lapel is default, but peak lapels are also a great style for an overcoat, and pairs wonderfully with a double-breasted coat.
Tommy in Peaky Blinders looks awesome in long overcoats. By the way, traditionally overcoats are below knee level because people usually walk in the colds and a long overcoat will provide more warmth. I wear a long overcoat below the knee and it never gets nasty, dirty or something messy even if I walk through the rain.
Totally disagree with the long overcoats pass the knees. Although it is harder to maintain I love how I feel and the looks that I get with my longer Pea coats
I'm sorry about the current style of men's topcoats measuring, especially if it's a dress or a more formal style topcoat. You are correct about the chest measurement, however, the length is what makes the difference. You need to take a look at what Brooks Brothers, Men's Warehouse or any major Retailer of Menswear clothing is selling. The longer the coat whether it's a long peacoat or a Chesterfield Dress topcoat the better the look and feel of the coat. When most men purchase a topcoat they do not want it to be confused with a jacket. A topcoat in which its length is behind the knees is actually at the knee. Most men 6' taller and above do not wear a topcoat cut off at the knee
+H8tthis You are right that there is no problem with a peacoat on a suit, blazer or sport jacket in terms of register, except for the really formal occasions. For everyday suits and especially blazers, it's perfectly fine. HOWEVER, a well-fitting peacoat will usually not have enough room for a thich jacket and unless your jacket is fashion-forward i.e. too short, the peacoat might not cover it. So the video is correct about these practical issues. But in terms of style, there's certainly nothing wrong with dressing down a suit or blazer outfit with an informal coat - that's generally how you do it, dressing down "from the outside" (rather than, say, those hideous t-shirt+blazer combos you see on TV). tl;dr: get a slightly longer and roomier peacoat if you want to wear it over a jacket.
Looks very good! It's hard to judge, but is the peacoat slightly longer than usual (i.e. than the US navy model which I've only seen pictures of) and the suit a little shorter? It's definitely doable, just not with every jacket and suit (a traditional suit goes over the bum) and you probably want a few centimeters' "safe zone" to cover the jacket. But your pictures demonstrate that there's no problem in terms of class/formality with a peacoat, unless you're going to a formal/evening occasion. In business and day events, it's very classy.
Overcoats look much better when the length of the overcoat past the knees, that is the classic way, and have to be roomier because you are wearing a suit under the overcoat. If you are not wearing a suit, I recommend wearing a peacoat instead.
I'm 20 and I bought one. Looks great. Doesn't make me look like a kid, but it also doesn't make me look out of place at my college like I'm some sort of Professor.
How does that answer alpha's question. Iam 5'7 as well. Just really stocky. I hoover between 185-188 late spring and summer. 190-195 fall. 198 in winter.
It's so hard to find a peacoat/trench coat in the States that has a flattering fit. Everything is so boxy here. I just ordered a top coat from J Crew and am keeping my fingers crossed that it fits. If it doesn't, I'm going to have to buy one when I visit the UK again. I'm 5'9, 127 lbs btw.
I have seen this pics on internet in which overcoats are not necessarily used with blazer. Of course its with fashion purposes, but still looks good, is there a way to achieve those looks once in a while ? what would be your suggestion for those cases ?
Who's making these rules?...I always get my overcoats slightly bigger so I can wear anything I want underneath (Sterlingwear website also recommends getting bigger size for this reason)...and my USN Pea Coat is long (46L) too...Sterlingwear pea coats are labelled 'L' and 'S' which I believe is long or short and not large or small as that size is already in the chest measurement...Point being is that if you like it then wear it irrelevant of what someone says it should or shouldn't look like...Thems my rules
It depends on how you intend to wear it. For more casual outfits, camel and light grey will be the easiest to dress down (in that order). For more formal outfits, opt for black, charcoal grey or navy blue (again, in that order). Charcoal grey, brown and navy blue represent middle-of-the-road "business" look.
I completely disagree about wearing long overcoats because the rationale given could be used to argue against wearing pants and leather shoes as well. I don't care about what stains might be left on the longer coats if it keeps me warm. After all, I can just get them dry cleaned and be done with it.
Same. I always wear long overcoats below the knee, gives me the most warmth. And I never experience it being dirty even if I walked through the rain. So I don’t know why she said it’s a no no. Honestly long overcoats looks more elegant/stylish. Look at Tommy in peaky blinders.
@Ashley Weston Where can I buy quality overcoats that are below the knee in length? I have asked numerous reddit pages and searched dozen of fashion webpages yet to find an overcoat that is below the knee, in Business style black wool etc. Is the only answer going bespoke?
I want to buy a peacoat from sterlingwear online but I'm really worried about the fitting since I won't be able to try it on before I order it. How do I compensate my measurements for the space the blazer/suit will take up inside the coat?
I like to get an overcoat or pea coat a little big. If they are too small they will wrinkle your sports coat. Pea coats are inexpensive, a fellow could even have 2. One for wearing with a sports coat and one for not.
100% wool is the most luxurious material but wool blends give the fabric some structural properties that the pure wool doesn't have (less piling, more abrasion resistance). If opting for a blend, the ones containing nylon are usually better because nylon is the softest synthetic fiber.
In your video, you make it seem like you HAVE TO wear a suit/blazer with an overcoat. IMHO, that not true at all. Overcoats still look nice with simply a buttoned shirt underneath. But of course, the fitting will be different.
Am I the only one that finds that peacoats just make you look smaller?! I think it's a very bad recommendation for shorter guys to get a peacoat... I think it's just a false stereotype that shorter guys should wear shorter clothing... For me, a topcoat (instead of a peacot) will make you look taller i think...
This woman has little knowledge about classic mens wear. This is the third video where I just click off when I see her face. The comment section knows what's up. This content creator does not.
Why is a woman telling men how to dress when women are wearing gross 80s mom Jean's and terrible baggy shirts? Girls 80s Jean's are not attractive at all.
1 - An overcoat is *traditionally* worn under a suit. If you do not intend to wear a suit the coat, you have the option to go for a slightly smaller size if you have problems with sleeve length, or its just your preference.
2 - Ashley is somewhat correct in saying that the shoulder width should end just past where your shoulders do. The exception to this is an overcoat with a dropped shoulder.
3 - The notch lapel is default, but peak lapels are also a great style for an overcoat, and pairs wonderfully with a double-breasted coat.
Tommy in Peaky Blinders looks awesome in long overcoats. By the way, traditionally overcoats are below knee level because people usually walk in the colds and a long overcoat will provide more warmth. I wear a long overcoat below the knee and it never gets nasty, dirty or something messy even if I walk through the rain.
I'm not a native English speaker but your pronunciation is so good to understand. Thanks Ashley!
Totally disagree with the long overcoats pass the knees. Although it is harder to maintain I love how I feel and the looks that I get with my longer Pea coats
Love the intro music! It's the first movement of Beethoven's String Quartet No. 6 if anyone's curious :)
If only you were on the Obama meets Italian PM video I want to know that song lol
I'm sorry about the current style of men's topcoats measuring, especially if it's a dress or a more formal style topcoat. You are correct about the chest measurement, however, the length is what makes the difference. You need to take a look at what Brooks Brothers, Men's Warehouse or any major Retailer of Menswear clothing is selling. The longer the coat whether it's a long peacoat or a Chesterfield Dress topcoat the better the look and feel of the coat. When most men purchase a topcoat they do not want it to be confused with a jacket. A topcoat in which its length is behind the knees is actually at the knee. Most men 6' taller and above do not wear a topcoat cut off at the knee
That blond hair color is perfection !
Thanks girl, winter has come and we need to get clothing.
Hey Ashley, love your work with Darren Criss! Tasteful, fashionable and perfectly proportioned.
Nope on the pea coat with suit. People can be too rigid with what is formal/casual wear.
+H8tthis You are right that there is no problem with a peacoat on a suit, blazer or sport jacket in terms of register, except for the really formal occasions. For everyday suits and especially blazers, it's perfectly fine. HOWEVER, a well-fitting peacoat will usually not have enough room for a thich jacket and unless your jacket is fashion-forward i.e. too short, the peacoat might not cover it. So the video is correct about these practical issues. But in terms of style, there's certainly nothing wrong with dressing down a suit or blazer outfit with an informal coat - that's generally how you do it, dressing down "from the outside" (rather than, say, those hideous t-shirt+blazer combos you see on TV).
tl;dr: get a slightly longer and roomier peacoat if you want to wear it over a jacket.
Looks very good! It's hard to judge, but is the peacoat slightly longer than usual (i.e. than the US navy model which I've only seen pictures of) and the suit a little shorter? It's definitely doable, just not with every jacket and suit (a traditional suit goes over the bum) and you probably want a few centimeters' "safe zone" to cover the jacket.
But your pictures demonstrate that there's no problem in terms of class/formality with a peacoat, unless you're going to a formal/evening occasion. In business and day events, it's very classy.
Overcoats look much better when the length of the overcoat past the knees, that is the classic way, and have to be roomier because you are wearing a suit under the overcoat. If you are not wearing a suit, I recommend wearing a peacoat instead.
As a small and skinny person, I have a huge problem finding winter clothes that fit. Do you have an article about the subject?
I'm 17 years old, and i got to ask, should i buy a peacoat? I love this style of clothing.
You should go for a kickass bomber jacket
Anthony N yes u definitely can
Anthony N Schott peacoat
I'm 20 and I bought one. Looks great. Doesn't make me look like a kid, but it also doesn't make me look out of place at my college like I'm some sort of Professor.
Anthony N I really want a peacoat for this upcoming winter but im skinny so I don't know how it will look on me.
For over coats try Grenfell.
Chrysalis.
Cordings.
Loro Piana.
Kiton.
Brioni.
Ermeneglido Zegna couture.
The old Burberrys are really good
What type of gloves do you recommend for those of us who wear either peacoats or overcoats?
I subscribed !!!! Thank you Ashley!!! ❤️
What type of winter coat do you recommend a shorter guy (5'6") wear? Is a peacoat ok? Seem to be very few options out there.
Awesome. As for coats and peacoats, how long beyond the waist is acceptable for a guy of 5'6"'? Thank you.
AlphaRed28 get a full size trench coat. I'm 5'3 and 11 and it looks great on me
Thanks Julian. That's pretty damn impressive...I've only ever worn jackets that just pass the waist... I'll have to experiment.
How does that answer alpha's question. Iam 5'7 as well. Just really stocky. I hoover between 185-188 late spring and summer. 190-195 fall. 198 in winter.
It's so hard to find a peacoat/trench coat in the States that has a flattering fit. Everything is so boxy here. I just ordered a top coat from J Crew and am keeping my fingers crossed that it fits. If it doesn't, I'm going to have to buy one when I visit the UK again. I'm 5'9, 127 lbs btw.
I have seen this pics on internet in which overcoats are not necessarily used with blazer. Of course its with fashion purposes, but still looks good, is there a way to achieve those looks once in a while ? what would be your suggestion for those cases ?
What about arm tightness in the sleeves?
Who's making these rules?...I always get my overcoats slightly bigger so I can wear anything I want underneath (Sterlingwear website also recommends getting bigger size for this reason)...and my USN Pea Coat is long (46L) too...Sterlingwear pea coats are labelled 'L' and 'S' which I believe is long or short and not large or small as that size is already in the chest measurement...Point being is that if you like it then wear it irrelevant of what someone says it should or shouldn't look like...Thems my rules
What color should you get first for your overcoat
That will match with everything
Please help
Charcoal Gray or Black overcoat
Navy, light blue, camel, charcoal, grey, and black are classics but maroons, greens, and browns can be really nice and unique too.
It depends on how you intend to wear it. For more casual outfits, camel and light grey will be the easiest to dress down (in that order). For more formal outfits, opt for black, charcoal grey or navy blue (again, in that order). Charcoal grey, brown and navy blue represent middle-of-the-road "business" look.
Overcoats are by design to protect your clothes and be warm. Sorry which celebrities did she advise?
I completely disagree about wearing long overcoats because the rationale given could be used to argue against wearing pants and leather shoes as well. I don't care about what stains might be left on the longer coats if it keeps me warm. After all, I can just get them dry cleaned and be done with it.
most of the dirt can be brushed out anyways as soon as it is dry
Same. I always wear long overcoats below the knee, gives me the most warmth. And I never experience it being dirty even if I walked through the rain. So I don’t know why she said it’s a no no. Honestly long overcoats looks more elegant/stylish. Look at Tommy in peaky blinders.
why are peacoats more preferred than say, trench coats, bridge coats, overcoats or duffel?
Do you know where I can find a white peacoat? I've been searching for years and never seem to come across that colorway.
online
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@Ashley Weston
Where can I buy quality overcoats that are below the knee in length? I have asked numerous reddit pages and searched dozen of fashion webpages yet to find an overcoat that is below the knee, in Business style black wool etc.
Is the only answer going bespoke?
llIH combant gent !
or you can get a Miltec German navy greatcoat, check it out!
I never wear suits but overcoats look sick should I get one?
Nice video, Ashley! Can't I wear a sports jacket underneath an overcoat? 0:22-0:31
Sir Kurokodairu
Well that's what she said. Wear a Suit Jacket or Blazer (which is a Sports Jacket) underneath it
I agree that hes being pedantic, but a blazer and sport coat are not the same.
Classic trench coat is better than the new one.
And longer than to the knees ☺
I want to buy a peacoat from sterlingwear online but I'm really worried about the fitting since I won't be able to try it on before I order it. How do I compensate my measurements for the space the blazer/suit will take up inside the coat?
+Ashley Weston Sure thing! When will you post that exactly? Wouldn't wanna miss it.
+Ashley Weston Ok thank you. Could you please just give me a short answer right now? It's really troubling me.
Prince Charles has two overcoats that go way PAST his knees and they look great. I think he knows a bit about clothes.
Plz answer:
Can I wear a scarf with a pea coat?
It should look good,I feel.
Of course you can, it’s a nice accent if you do it right
Does anyone know the name of the navy blue pea coat the model is wearing in the video? It's not any of the recommended ones in the link.
Thanks Ashley! I get a lot of flak for dressing fashionably. That is, until my friends and I go anywhere ladies frequent ;) Haha, keep it up!
What is the brand of the last overcoat (black one) i really like the style
It was a pea coat style without anchor buttons.
Wow you're the Best!
The problem is :
Lesser visual display and more talking doesn’t help .
Use some model beside you to explain 😁
I like to get an overcoat or pea coat a little big. If they are too small they will wrinkle your sports coat. Pea coats are inexpensive, a fellow could even have 2. One for wearing with a sports coat and one for not.
You should not wear one with a sports coat though as they are not overcoats.
Thx Ashley, what is the music?
I like how bubbly you are it's charming :) btw what kind of material should I look for/avoid? I'm guessing wool blend is the best?
100% wool is the most luxurious material but wool blends give the fabric some structural properties that the pure wool doesn't have (less piling, more abrasion resistance). If opting for a blend, the ones containing nylon are usually better because nylon is the softest synthetic fiber.
Nice, good tips. but you can get the fit that you want. And hard to get perfect fit
Is she overlooking at the pictures in this video?
Peter Parker Wore it Better. GREAT VID.
In your video, you make it seem like you HAVE TO wear a suit/blazer with an overcoat. IMHO, that not true at all. Overcoats still look nice with simply a buttoned shirt underneath. But of course, the fitting will be different.
If your overcoat doesn’t go past your knees, it’s waaaay, waaay too short.
Am I the only one that finds that peacoats just make you look smaller?! I think it's a very bad recommendation for shorter guys to get a peacoat... I think it's just a false stereotype that shorter guys should wear shorter clothing... For me, a topcoat (instead of a peacot) will make you look taller i think...
Walid Sabir If you want to appear tall you need to make your legs look long.
tell me y does it look like there trying to steal doctor who style 1:11
10 doctor by the way
No thats not what to do you can wear it without a suit jacket
This woman has little knowledge about classic mens wear. This is the third video where I just click off when I see her face. The comment section knows what's up. This content creator does not.
good info but your uptalk dictation is brutal.
Why is a woman telling men how to dress when women are wearing gross 80s mom Jean's and terrible baggy shirts? Girls 80s Jean's are not attractive at all.
Is she married
No I no trust you
Rubbish
An American spoken of style,jesus please