They always responded within 24hours. It was mostly disappointing they send me the wrong unit with incorrect instructions. Now that it's working, I really like it.
Bennie, this was fantastic. Thank you. I have the exact same 2007 LS460 with 204000 miles and still like new. I installed my Grom last week. Love it..same as yours with car display, but it is so good for all that it brings to the car…now in the 2023 electronics with Grom Vline2
I brought my LS460, 2008 new and have just over 47K miles and I thought about adding that device. But, after watching your video I might just keep wiring my phone to get those figures. Great video thanks for doing it. Post any future issues you have with the LS460. Take care
Forgot to thank you for the idea to put the Grom box below the glove box. It fits perfectly like it was made for it above the trim panel. The wiring run was also easy compared to putting in Glove box.
Really sorry for your experience, at least you got it up and running in the end. I really want to get the grom for my 460. I guess I’ll be getting mine soon. Thanks for the vid.
I can’t imagine not having CarPlay, sad as that may be, so I’m really glad I have the GROM, it was a bummer that I had so many issues getting it up and running though.
Excellent review thank you. It simply seems like a mistake in shipping and outdated instructions caused all of your nightmares. Glad to hear it’s sorted. I’ll be buying one for my GX.
You’re welcome! And yes, just a couple mistakes that resulted in most of my troubles. I’ve been happy with it since it got sorted out. Hope it works out great in your GX!
I just got the vline for my is 350 about 3 weeks ago. So far my experience has been near perfect other than today I couldn't get my phone to connect to CarPlay. Sometimes it was finicky like you were saying however I talked to tech support and they told me to update firmware. Apparently a few updates ago they had an issue specifically with CarPlay not connecting properly sometimes. Crossing my fingers but so far I notice a huge difference and now it pairs quick every time.
@@bennieaust yea np, all I did was connect to wifi and go to settings, system, and then vline software or something along those lines. Check for updates and it was there.
I have a 2008 LS 600h L with the GROM VLine. It's been great, other than that the microphone quality is horrible (and I've tried several microphones) and that the screen does not return back to the VLine after selecting reverse; I wind up having to press the CD button three times to get it to come back manually. I'm in talks with them regarding that second issue.
11:55 I have the Vline in my 2006 LX470, when I go to Reverse, the backup camera does pop up, however when going back to "D" or "P" the Grom unit does NOT come back up. I have to press "DISC" twice to get back to the grom. Kind of lame, wonder if you have an idea for a workaround?
Hi ther i have the same car as you and i have a few tips for you . First if you want to adjust the sound you just have to press the scan button 3 times in a row and the screen will go there. And it works when you are on any screen And second for the touch screen i installed a wireless mouse in the USB porte of the unit and it works great
Bennie, you are a trooper to get through this in such a good way with success. In our 2007 LS 460L that we have had now for many years we have been happy with downloading music through the CD player to the hard drive in the Mark Levinson system, it sounds great, also I am frugal with not spending money for monthly subscription, so I use Tracfone for my phone and Phone DATA, it works out to less than $ 10.00 per month for a year of service Phone and DATA combined, and I have done this for a very long time and am used to it, I turn on DATA when I need it and then turn it off. Thank you for showing this video and being such a likable guy.
Thanks for the kind words Brett. I really appreciate it! Sounds like you have a good system worked out for your needs. The Mark Levinson system sound great and the monitor is big for it's day, so there's no need to get crazy with things. It's nice that there are a few options. Thanks for watching and commenting Brett!
Only if your end goal requires it. I added the GROM Vline 2 to mine. That accomplished everything I was aiming for. It would be a pretty big undertaking to swap out the whole factory system because it’s very linked to may systems in the car.
I've been looking at LS460s from this era and was thinking I might have to forego Android Auto. It seems like this would be a good option. Nothing like tearing the car apart 6 times, I've done that enough lol
It is still working good. Every once in a while it doesn't connect quickly but still loving it. Someone commented that they had a much better experience with a "BeatSonic" but after a google search I wasn't able to find a similar product for sale by BeatSonic for the LS460. As it stands I'm not sure there is another option.
@@bobbydelamar606 My LS has regular struts. The air ride would be nice if you wanted to get an aftermarket controller so you could manually adjust suspension height. Beyond that, it's just expensive. I love exactly how mine is equipped. Radar cruise control, Mark Levinson, rear power adjustable seats that are heated and ventilated. And RWD with normal struts!
@bennieaust9796 Awesome. Mine had air ride suspension, but the person I bought it from took it off and put on lowering coil overs. I can't afford to put it back, so I just wanna do struts. But what are factory springs and struts?
@@bobbydelamar606 When I replaced mine I just went with the KYB brand listed on rock auto. You may need to check with an online toyota parts dealer to find factory springs.
Yes, you can use wired CarPlay as well. Theoretically it would be less buggy with wired. I have almost exclusively used wireless and overall it’s been working well so I have no desire to rely on wired CarPlay.
@@bjames8103 🤔 I never thought of just taking out the cd changer and putting a aftermarket but wouldn't that get rid of the 6 disc changer? Sry I'm old school still listening to CDs 😂
@@HexicanLS460L lol thats 6 disc technology, As long as I have apple carplay I’m good plus that Sony stereo still had a knob to turn volume up and down, I dislike the stereos that have buttons to turn volume up and down
Are you able to make/receive calls through CarPlay (using the mic that’s built into the car)? If not, are you able to easily pair your phone to the factory system and switch back to the built in hands free function for calls?
It’s been a few years, I can’t remember if the GROM uses the factory mic or if I had to add one, whatever it was phone call were all seamlessly done through CarPlay.
@@bennieaust I have a LS430 with a VLine 2,. And I felt like the thing was a complete piece of shit the entire time I had it. Although I didn't really go through a whole lot of troubleshooting. I just felt like it was like Windows 98. But at $700 almost, I feel like I shouldn't have to do a bunch of troubleshooting. I feel like that's why you release a product after you've done all of the bug testing, not make your customers do it for you. So I'm pretty apprehensive about getting another one although it's definitely easier than getting a whole new head unit replacement
@@riceburner82x, I was ready to send it back after all the trouble I was having getting mine installed so I hear you. I haven’t had an issue since so I’m feeling much better about it now of course. You are right though, the customers should not be the ones working the issues out of products. Unfortunately there aren’t a lot of options for our cars so you either have to deal with the crap, to hopefully end up with a good functioning product, or pretty much keep it stock. I know someone else commented they had a good experience with another product so that may be worth looking into. At the end of the day my experience started out really bad but ended good so that’s why I made this video. The good didn’t make me not care about the bad anymore, it’s still very frustrating thinking about it, but I am happy with how it’s been working ever since. I’ve taken this thing on 2 4000 mile road trips and it’s performed great and been reliable.
First- You are a HERO! This video is consice and to the point. KUDOS I have an order for one of these for my 09 LS460 coming any day now and now I know to double check the model on the box and the harness. I have couple of questions though. 1-is it possible to show how the unit is mounted in that little space under the glove box- that is geinius move BTW! 2-How long did it take for the replacement part to come? 2b-Did they do the right thing and overnight it? 3-Did you mount the GPS antenna above the right top vent? 3b- Was the wire long enough due to the unit mounting? 4-Did you install the microphone? 4b-if so was it hard to pry the A pillar w the airbag? 5-Do the steering wheel controls work while using the V-Line. 6-Does it retain all of the Mark Levinson features like DSP and the great "Booming" sound when watching videos and playning music. Thanks so much for this especially waiting 6 mos to give a fair review of ACTUAL LS460 customer use. So many people are knee-jerk lovers or haters who had it for a few days or from outside of the US complaining about customer service / shipping times. U Are Great!
Thanks! Maybe I'll have to shoot another video to answer number 1. 2: The replacement parts took several days. Definitely not over nighted, but without the original mistake that's pretty irrelevant to most people. 3: The GPS antenna I just stuck to the dash with 3M VHB tape. Plenty of wire length. 4: I would imagine the MIC would have come with the correct kit but I didn't get one with my incorrect kit. I had one already sitting around so I saved myself more aggravation and emails and days of shipment and just used mine. I mounted it on the center of the steering column. 5 & 6: Steering wheel controls absolutely work. Everything works. That's one of the reasons I went with the GROM. You lose nothing, just gain wireless CarPlay/Android Auto. Backup camera, advanced parking feature, everything retained. The only thing worth mentioning is that the push to speak button (left side of the wheel below the volume buttons) still gets you to the factory infotainment system, not Siri or Google Assistant. So instead of using that button you simply say "Hey Siri" or press and hold the lower left corner of the CarPlay screen to access Siri.
I’m not sure if it does. If you click on the link in the description that takes you to the GROM website it may answer the question somewhere on their site.
Glad to know. I thought of getting one but cannot get over the cost. If it was under 400 than maybe. Wonder how many they have sold and if your install is typical.
I can’t imagine my install is typically, but this is the only one I have installed so I’m only guessing. As far as cost goes, everyone has to make there own call on if it’s worth it or not. In my case a $650 upgrade to a car with an original msrp of around $70k seem reasonable. If it was a 2000 Honda Civic not so much.
For sure, there is a plastic cover under the dash and it is just sitting on top of it. There is enough space but it is a tight fit so it won’t move around on its own. Still accessible without tools if you ever need to get to it.
I REALLY want this but they are at Android 8...and to me, you might as well have older tech because the price is simply not worth it on my end. Android 8 began in 2017! And they JUST stopped supporting Android 7 and many devices are losing their support for Android 8. If they kept up with the tech and were on 10..I would agree it was worth it. Thank you for the video.
@@bennieaust yea I hear ya I'm thinking 200 or so for install, I've just been wanting a better navigation since the stock one is let's say way outta date 😂 plus it's definitely a upgrade to the stock look 👍 always looking for ways to improve my 08. I put 20 inch Donz Merlino on it, gonna get those Spec-D led tail light assembly, best car I've ever owned hands down 😎 ohh I also put those Lexus logo courtesy door lights took me 5 min to install and for 30 bucks nice upgrade at night, also changed to side mirror bulbs to LED
@@HexicanLS460L Hi Hex do you have links to those cool sounding LS460 accessories? I have the 09 with AWD. DONT ever get the AWD the suspension parts are 4X regular price and not much is out there aftermartket Also I have read a lot of reviews even Bennie here has had to tear into it and re-install the unit a few times- I am going to try it myself because I fear an installer would want $$$ everytime they have to touch it and from the VLINE research I have read that sometimes they have bad units that misbehave and replacements are sent that have to be re-installed. I build computers in my spare time though so this is a simple pass through add on. I only fear scratching my dash when taking it apart. But I feel I better get used to taking it apart just in case I start having issues down the road near the end of the warranty.
Hello, I recently got my alternator and car battery replaced, so all of my settings are back to default. The VLine screen doesn’t load up. Any tips? Thank you.
I think what I would try is disconnecting the power cable from the VLine2, wait about 30 seconds, then plug it back in. That will reset the VLine2 and hopefully restore everything back to working.
When you talk about a few months and frustration because you still have to take the car apart. I understand I am in the same situation. Although I have a Lexus IS 250, I still haven't been able to get the V line working. :-( The problem is that V line doesn't want to start at all, or it just starts with a black screen. When driving forward, the display shows the reversing camera. I don't know where to connect the return cable. And I don't know if I should connect it at all. I will be happy for any advice.
Sorry to hear you’re also having issues. My best advice is really just to contact GROM and follow whatever their instructions are. That’s how my issues got resolved in the end. The printed off instructions turned out to be wrong and they were able to tell me the correct procedure to get it all working. They have since updated the instructions so hopefully I was the last to have that exact problem. It is frustrating, but in the end it all worked out. I am very happy to have wireless CarPlay now!
@@bennieaust Oh my god, it works. Like you, I had the wrong manual for the 2007-2009 LS460. I found out from your video that I don't need it. Your advise to contact GROM autdio again gave me hope that they will fix it. I took pictures of everything again, they sent me another software again. And it started working. Thanks to you too for sharing it on video.
@@jeyjey7631 I wish nobody else had any of these issues but it makes me happy if my video can help other people get the issues resolved. Glad you’re up and running Jey Jey!!!!
Range is the prediction of the computer, based on past mileage. I drive a lot of highway miles so my average mpg is pretty high. The computer expects with the high mpg I will have a long range. And it’s right. I’ve had many tanks around 550 miles.
Dude what a terrible experience! I have it in my 05 and just wanted to watch other peoples experience. Bought it last fall in my December, felt like a bit the bullet and accepted that CarPlay wasnt going to work for a while, was convinced it was an iOS issue. Eventually it all started working. Similar to your screen issue I would get 80s tv static and if I keep toggling back and forth btwn FM and CD it will come on. Sometimes it works fine. I think I've figured out that If I want to watch RUclips or RUclips tv etc that I need to disconnect carplay. tether my phone using my perosnal hotspot then I can watch it using app in GROM. The Bluetooth Mic is terrible. !!! Auto setting for mic gain isnt working great for me. Mounted near visor. I'd be willing to replace mic cable if it would make a difference.
Sounds like you have had your fair share off "fun" too. Hopefully it's working acceptably for you now. I'm happy with the end result for me. Just took some patients getting there.
I haven’t used a mouse, but the mileage I’ve got first hand experience. I’ve done as good as 31.7mpg on a 200 mile trip. Not a big sample but pretty incredible.
How I’m the world are u getting getting 528 miles in a full take 🙃 and can u use stock navigation? How does RUclips or Netflix work with connecting to hotspot good or egh
Just cruising on the highway. :) You can toggle back and forth from the GROM to the factory system, so you can use factory navigation but I can't imagine wanting to. I use Waze or Google maps on my iPhone. I haven’t used RUclips or Netflix so I can’t speak to that. Sorry.
If only they were coming out with a vline3 with a better processor and newer version of Android. Ive been a pixel user for years and it would scare me knowing some apps from the play store are a year or two away from no longer working on Android 8
I completely agree. It's time for an update. If they are still a relevant company I'm sure they have an updated version in the works. I's probably worth wafting to find out.
@@bennieaust I'm looking to get into a LS and have been doing my research and that's my conclusion as well. I used to work for a Lexus dealer as a salesman in 2010 before going to graduate school and I always loved this version of the LS. So smooth and comfortable. Finding one sorted, or nearly sorted, and in good condition has been a fun search thus far.
@@bennieaust I just got one. Well maintained 2007 on Cars and Bids. Picking it up in a couple of weeks. Any chance you can demo where you installed your VLine? I think I'm going to get the VLite if I can use SiriusXM at the same time as android auto. I know the VLine can't run SiriusXM at the same time which is a bummer.
@@chrishamby86 congrats on the purchase! I just located mine on top of the panel that goes under the glovebox/dash. The panel removes with no tools. I just set it on top of it. It's a snug fit, so it won't go anywhere, but you can access it if you need to.
@@bennieaust Thank you for your answer. That's not obvious, for example, in new cars, the sound quality from a phone is worse than a CD player. In this Carplay solution, they need to use DAP, and this is all about the DAP quality.
@@pawekorzeniewski4510 you’re welcome. I don’t know the tech behind it but I do know the weakest link I’ve experienced is the quality of the recording. As long as you’re streaming service or audio files are of high quality you will be good to go.
@@bennieaust That makes me happy, i just got one and its got 199K i love seeing all the owners just racking them miles up. Good video aswell, i will look into GROM.
@@truthbetold06 congrates on the purchase! They can run a long, long time. They are more costly than an ES350 but still a much cheaper car to own and maintain than the German counterparts.
DO NOT BUY GROM. Buy a BeatSonic. Works 100% flawless. I had a NIGHTMARE time with Grom. Their unit everything in this video x10. Wireless disconnections, system crashes, Carplay not loading, backup camera not displaying 50% of the time or stuck when driving, low amperage USB charging, and so much more. I’ve literally taken my car apart a dozen times troubleshooting over several dozens of emails with Grom over months before I got them to return my unit. And they aren’t even on the same page. One email I’m talking to one tech another email another tech that has no clue what’s going on. The next email the tech is telling me to do the complete opposite of what the last guy told me to do. No one knows what they are doing at Grom. They ultimately said my car is not compatible even though it’s on the compatible list. I believe they sold me a bad unit but, they refused to replace it and offer me a refund if the replacement didn’t fix the issue. I replaced it with a BeatSonic unit and everything works flawlessly and requires zero firmware updates. It just works. Audio sounds amazing. The interface looks nicer and maps scroll onscreen just like on the iPhone. Etc. Those guys got it right at beatSonic.
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I'm sold. Sound like decent customer service. They didn't leave you hanging.
They always responded within 24hours. It was mostly disappointing they send me the wrong unit with incorrect instructions. Now that it's working, I really like it.
@@bennieaust seems like you were the guinea pig we all needed. So thanks for that. Lol
@@Overqualified1 I hope so. I hope they have all the kinks worked out!!
@@Overqualified1 :)
I agree. I'm paying the professionals for mine though 😂😂😂
Bennie, this was fantastic. Thank you. I have the exact same 2007 LS460 with 204000 miles and still like new. I installed my Grom last week. Love it..same as yours with car display, but it is so good for all that it brings to the car…now in the 2023 electronics with Grom Vline2
Thanks William! It sounds like you had an easier install than I did. I can't imagine not having it!
Really thorough and good review. I was second guessing whether I’d get this but you have convinced me, thank you
Thanks!!
Great review Bennie. Not saying I am getting one, not saying I'm not.....Really concise and good information. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Dave!
Thank you for the update and review. It was fair and balance. And it also helped to keep my expectations in check. 👌🏽
Thanks for watching!
I brought my LS460, 2008 new and have just over 47K miles and I thought about adding that device. But, after watching your video I might just keep wiring my phone to get those figures. Great video thanks for doing it. Post any future issues you have with the LS460. Take care
You’re welcome! I don’t put many miles on it these days and the Vline2 has been working great, but I’ll keep everyone posted!
Forgot to thank you for the idea to put the Grom box below the glove box. It fits perfectly like it was made for it above the trim panel. The wiring run was also easy compared to putting in Glove box.
You're welcome!
You're awesome bro thanks for the review of the entire experience
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
Really sorry for your experience, at least you got it up and running in the end. I really want to get the grom for my 460. I guess I’ll be getting mine soon. Thanks for the vid.
I can’t imagine not having CarPlay, sad as that may be, so I’m really glad I have the GROM, it was a bummer that I had so many issues getting it up and running though.
@@bennieaust Do you use the original touch screen display in order to operate the grom & does it have its own Wi-Fi or do you supply Wi-Fi
@@bigbusiness6067 the GROM uses the factory touch screen.
Excellent review thank you. It simply seems like a mistake in shipping and outdated instructions caused all of your nightmares. Glad to hear it’s sorted. I’ll be buying one for my GX.
You’re welcome! And yes, just a couple mistakes that resulted in most of my troubles.
I’ve been happy with it since it got sorted out.
Hope it works out great in your GX!
Hey brother great video thank you so much I have a 07 ls460 and have been looking to update to CarPlay while keeping the oem radio thank you again!!
You’re welcome!!
I just got the vline for my is 350 about 3 weeks ago. So far my experience has been near perfect other than today I couldn't get my phone to connect to CarPlay. Sometimes it was finicky like you were saying however I talked to tech support and they told me to update firmware. Apparently a few updates ago they had an issue specifically with CarPlay not connecting properly sometimes. Crossing my fingers but so far I notice a huge difference and now it pairs quick every time.
I’m glad it’s been a good experience for you! I’ll have to check with them and maybe update my firmware too.
Thanks!
@@bennieaust yea np, all I did was connect to wifi and go to settings, system, and then vline software or something along those lines. Check for updates and it was there.
I like this option better than the Tesla screen
I have a 2008 LS 600h L with the GROM VLine. It's been great, other than that the microphone quality is horrible (and I've tried several microphones) and that the screen does not return back to the VLine after selecting reverse; I wind up having to press the CD button three times to get it to come back manually. I'm in talks with them regarding that second issue.
That kind of sounds like the issues they have. Just glitchy stuff. When they work they are great, when they don’t it’s really frustrating.
11:55 I have the Vline in my 2006 LX470, when I go to Reverse, the backup camera does pop up, however when going back to "D" or "P" the Grom unit does NOT come back up. I have to press "DISC" twice to get back to the grom. Kind of lame, wonder if you have an idea for a workaround?
Unfortunately I don't. I'm happy with it but to this day is seems a little buggy.
Hi ther i have the same car as you and i have a few tips for you . First if you want to adjust the sound you just have to press the scan button 3 times in a row and the screen will go there. And it works when you are on any screen And second for the touch screen i installed a wireless mouse in the USB porte of the unit and it works great
Thanks for the tips! It appears that scan 3 times on my car doesn’t do anything. :(
Can you still play CDs ?
Yes, the vline2 doesn’t disable any of the factory system.
Bennie, you are a trooper to get through this in such a good way with success. In our 2007 LS 460L that we have had now for many years we have been happy with downloading music through the CD player to the hard drive in the Mark Levinson system, it sounds great, also I am frugal with not spending money for monthly subscription, so I use Tracfone for my phone and Phone DATA, it works out to less than $ 10.00 per month for a year of service Phone and DATA combined, and I have done this for a very long time and am used to it, I turn on DATA when I need it and then turn it off. Thank you for showing this video and being such a likable guy.
Thanks for the kind words Brett. I really appreciate it!
Sounds like you have a good system worked out for your needs. The Mark Levinson system sound great and the monitor is big for it's day, so there's no need to get crazy with things. It's nice that there are a few options.
Thanks for watching and commenting Brett!
Would u recommend getting a new full media setup that has new screen tech etc?
Only if your end goal requires it. I added the GROM Vline 2 to mine. That accomplished everything I was aiming for. It would be a pretty big undertaking to swap out the whole factory system because it’s very linked to may systems in the car.
I've been looking at LS460s from this era and was thinking I might have to forego Android Auto. It seems like this would be a good option. Nothing like tearing the car apart 6 times, I've done that enough lol
It sure was irritating getting it all straightened out, but having wireless CarPlay and android auto is amazing!
Can you control carplay features with buttons on steering wheel? Like changing music etc.
Yes, the steering wheel buttons control track and volume just like with everything else.
Overall, I love having the unit. I've emailed them before though and i never hear from them.
I feel the same way. Now that I’m past all the frustration, I love it.
So that system is still working good? Is there any other options? I have a 2008 LS460L.
On a side note, does your LS460 have air ride or struts?
It is still working good. Every once in a while it doesn't connect quickly but still loving it.
Someone commented that they had a much better experience with a "BeatSonic" but after a google search I wasn't able to find a similar product for sale by BeatSonic for the LS460. As it stands I'm not sure there is another option.
@@bobbydelamar606 My LS has regular struts. The air ride would be nice if you wanted to get an aftermarket controller so you could manually adjust suspension height. Beyond that, it's just expensive. I love exactly how mine is equipped. Radar cruise control, Mark Levinson, rear power adjustable seats that are heated and ventilated. And RWD with normal struts!
@bennieaust9796 Awesome. Mine had air ride suspension, but the person I bought it from took it off and put on lowering coil overs. I can't afford to put it back, so I just wanna do struts. But what are factory springs and struts?
@@bobbydelamar606 When I replaced mine I just went with the KYB brand listed on rock auto. You may need to check with an online toyota parts dealer to find factory springs.
Can you just use wired CarPlay?
Yes, you can use wired CarPlay as well. Theoretically it would be less buggy with wired. I have almost exclusively used wireless and overall it’s been working well so I have no desire to rely on wired CarPlay.
I just took out the disc player and installed the Sony XAVAX1000 in that same spot.
@@bjames8103 🤔 I never thought of just taking out the cd changer and putting a aftermarket but wouldn't that get rid of the 6 disc changer? Sry I'm old school still listening to CDs 😂
@@HexicanLS460L lol thats 6 disc technology, As long as I have apple carplay I’m good plus that Sony stereo still had a knob to turn volume up and down, I dislike the stereos that have buttons to turn volume up and down
Works well? Good viewing angle?
@B James how did you get a trim. Panel. To. Fit the sony head unit in there?
Are you able to make/receive calls through CarPlay (using the mic that’s built into the car)?
If not, are you able to easily pair your phone to the factory system and switch back to the built in hands free function for calls?
It’s been a few years, I can’t remember if the GROM uses the factory mic or if I had to add one, whatever it was phone call were all seamlessly done through CarPlay.
Madonna, yay! Lol. You're cute. Just bought a 2010. Wondering if I should get this device
If you’re looking to get wireless CarPlay, I’d recommend it!! The install was a little rough but it’s been great ever since!
@@bennieaust I have a LS430 with a VLine 2,. And I felt like the thing was a complete piece of shit the entire time I had it. Although I didn't really go through a whole lot of troubleshooting. I just felt like it was like Windows 98. But at $700 almost, I feel like I shouldn't have to do a bunch of troubleshooting. I feel like that's why you release a product after you've done all of the bug testing, not make your customers do it for you. So I'm pretty apprehensive about getting another one although it's definitely easier than getting a whole new head unit replacement
@@riceburner82x, I was ready to send it back after all the trouble I was having getting mine installed so I hear you. I haven’t had an issue since so I’m feeling much better about it now of course. You are right though, the customers should not be the ones working the issues out of products. Unfortunately there aren’t a lot of options for our cars so you either have to deal with the crap, to hopefully end up with a good functioning product, or pretty much keep it stock. I know someone else commented they had a good experience with another product so that may be worth looking into.
At the end of the day my experience started out really bad but ended good so that’s why I made this video. The good didn’t make me not care about the bad anymore, it’s still very frustrating thinking about it, but I am happy with how it’s been working ever since. I’ve taken this thing on 2 4000 mile road trips and it’s performed great and been reliable.
@@bennieaust Do you happen to recall which other product it was that someone else recommended?
@@riceburner82x I can’t remember. It’s buried in the comments somewhere.
First- You are a HERO! This video is consice and to the point. KUDOS
I have an order for one of these for my 09 LS460 coming any day now and now I know to double check the model on the box and the harness. I have couple of questions though.
1-is it possible to show how the unit is mounted in that little space under the glove box- that is geinius move BTW!
2-How long did it take for the replacement part to come?
2b-Did they do the right thing and overnight it?
3-Did you mount the GPS antenna above the right top vent?
3b- Was the wire long enough due to the unit mounting?
4-Did you install the microphone?
4b-if so was it hard to pry the A pillar w the airbag?
5-Do the steering wheel controls work while using the V-Line.
6-Does it retain all of the Mark Levinson features like DSP and the great "Booming" sound when watching videos and playning music.
Thanks so much for this especially waiting 6 mos to give a fair review of ACTUAL LS460 customer use.
So many people are knee-jerk lovers or haters who had it for a few days or from outside of the US complaining about customer service / shipping times. U Are Great!
Thanks!
Maybe I'll have to shoot another video to answer number 1.
2: The replacement parts took several days. Definitely not over nighted, but without the original mistake that's pretty irrelevant to most people.
3: The GPS antenna I just stuck to the dash with 3M VHB tape. Plenty of wire length.
4: I would imagine the MIC would have come with the correct kit but I didn't get one with my incorrect kit. I had one already sitting around so I saved myself more aggravation and emails and days of shipment and just used mine. I mounted it on the center of the steering column.
5 & 6: Steering wheel controls absolutely work. Everything works. That's one of the reasons I went with the GROM. You lose nothing, just gain wireless CarPlay/Android Auto. Backup camera, advanced parking feature, everything retained. The only thing worth mentioning is that the push to speak button (left side of the wheel below the volume buttons) still gets you to the factory infotainment system, not Siri or Google Assistant. So instead of using that button you simply say "Hey Siri" or press and hold the lower left corner of the CarPlay screen to access Siri.
Does the grom vline2 also work in the ls460 president version in the screen on the back?
I’m not sure if it does. If you click on the link in the description that takes you to the GROM website it may answer the question somewhere on their site.
I have the LS460L with the executive package and the grom vline 2 and the vline2 does not work on the rear screen.
Glad to know. I thought of getting one but cannot get over the cost. If it was under 400 than maybe. Wonder how many they have sold and if your install is typical.
I can’t imagine my install is typically, but this is the only one I have installed so I’m only guessing.
As far as cost goes, everyone has to make there own call on if it’s worth it or not. In my case a $650 upgrade to a car with an original msrp of around $70k seem reasonable. If it was a 2000 Honda Civic not so much.
Has it interferes with the mark Levinson sound system? Like quality wise ?
It does not degrade the quality in any way. Sounds great!!
Do you get to have HD Radio tuner with the GROM?
The GROM does have a radio tuner.
Thanks for the video Bennie. Do you mind sharing how you mounted it under the glove box? Thanks!
For sure, there is a plastic cover under the dash and it is just sitting on top of it. There is enough space but it is a tight fit so it won’t move around on its own. Still accessible without tools if you ever need to get to it.
Thanks Bennie!
Gonna mount mine there also. Was it easy to install. Gonna do this weekend
I REALLY want this but they are at Android 8...and to me, you might as well have older tech because the price is simply not worth it on my end. Android 8 began in 2017! And they JUST stopped supporting Android 7 and many devices are losing their support for Android 8. If they kept up with the tech and were on 10..I would agree it was worth it. Thank you for the video.
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
@@letzgo905 Its all about support of the OS
it's stability over modernity. I design automotive chips, we use 180 nm nodes from early 2000 to make them.
@@patrikgubeljak9416 But the developers do not support the updates of apps in old Android OS. Which ended in 2021 :(
It looks like your trials were worth it! Heres to many more years of problem free ownership with your LS. Do we have any newer options these days?
That’s a great question! I haven’t looked lately so I’m not sure.
So its android compatible?,and was it expensive
Yes, in fact the GROM unit is running an Android operating system.
Click on the link in the description for current pricing. I paid about $650.
@@bennieaust ok I see it 650 wow was it worth it
@@Jacblack69 , it's unfortunate I had all the issues getting it up and running. If you don't have those issues then it's definitely worth it IMHO.
i just bought the same car yesterday,can the radio be played while car is not running?
It can be! Just press the start button once WITHOUT pressing the brake.
So if I take it to a professional car sound installer, u think it should take about 1 or 2 hrs for them to install?
If they know what they’re doing an hour tops, that doesn’t mean that’s what they will charge you for though.
@@bennieaust yea I hear ya I'm thinking 200 or so for install, I've just been wanting a better navigation since the stock one is let's say way outta date 😂 plus it's definitely a upgrade to the stock look 👍 always looking for ways to improve my 08. I put 20 inch Donz Merlino on it, gonna get those Spec-D led tail light assembly, best car I've ever owned hands down 😎 ohh I also put those Lexus logo courtesy door lights took me 5 min to install and for 30 bucks nice upgrade at night, also changed to side mirror bulbs to LED
@@HexicanLS460L Hi Hex do you have links to those cool sounding LS460 accessories? I have the 09 with AWD. DONT ever get the AWD the suspension parts are 4X regular price and not much is out there aftermartket
Also I have read a lot of reviews even Bennie here has had to tear into it and re-install the unit a few times-
I am going to try it myself because I fear an installer would want $$$ everytime they have to touch it and from the VLINE research I have read that sometimes they have bad units that misbehave and replacements are sent that have to be re-installed. I build computers in my spare time though so this is a simple pass through add on. I only fear scratching my dash when taking it apart. But I feel I better get used to taking it apart just in case I start having issues down the road near the end of the warranty.
My installer took about 1.5 hours. No problems. Have it installed professionally!!!
@@rockflock4698 cool there is a good car sound system I staller 30 min from here there a compustar pro dealer
Hello, I recently got my alternator and car battery replaced, so all of my settings are back to default. The VLine screen doesn’t load up. Any tips? Thank you.
I think what I would try is disconnecting the power cable from the VLine2, wait about 30 seconds, then plug it back in. That will reset the VLine2 and hopefully restore everything back to working.
When you talk about a few months and frustration because you still have to take the car apart. I understand I am in the same situation.
Although I have a Lexus IS 250, I still haven't been able to get the V line working. :-(
The problem is that V line doesn't want to start at all, or it just starts with a black screen. When driving forward, the display shows the reversing camera.
I don't know where to connect the return cable. And I don't know if I should connect it at all.
I will be happy for any advice.
Sorry to hear you’re also having issues. My best advice is really just to contact GROM and follow whatever their instructions are. That’s how my issues got resolved in the end. The printed off instructions turned out to be wrong and they were able to tell me the correct procedure to get it all working. They have since updated the instructions so hopefully I was the last to have that exact problem.
It is frustrating, but in the end it all worked out. I am very happy to have wireless CarPlay now!
@@bennieaust Oh my god, it works.
Like you, I had the wrong manual for the 2007-2009 LS460.
I found out from your video that I don't need it.
Your advise to contact GROM autdio again gave me hope that they will fix it.
I took pictures of everything again, they sent me another software again. And it started working.
Thanks to you too for sharing it on video.
@@jeyjey7631 I wish nobody else had any of these issues but it makes me happy if my video can help other people get the issues resolved.
Glad you’re up and running Jey Jey!!!!
Thank you. Very similar experience with 2011 LS460
Bummer :(
Thanks for the input for everyone though.
Hey is the unit working after you got the part and do you think it’s still worth buying thank you
Since I got it working it’s been great. It’s worth it to me but unfortunately that I had so many issues.
Do you know how your car has 528 cursing miles? It looks like 420 miles is good range for the car. I think mine only does like 390 on a tank.
Range is the prediction of the computer, based on past mileage. I drive a lot of highway miles so my average mpg is pretty high. The computer expects with the high mpg I will have a long range. And it’s right. I’ve had many tanks around 550 miles.
Dude what a terrible experience! I have it in my 05 and just wanted to watch other peoples experience. Bought it last fall in my December, felt like a bit the bullet and accepted that CarPlay wasnt going to work for a while, was convinced it was an iOS issue. Eventually it all started working. Similar to your screen issue I would get 80s tv static and if I keep toggling back and forth btwn FM and CD it will come on. Sometimes it works fine. I think I've figured out that If I want to watch RUclips or RUclips tv etc that I need to disconnect carplay. tether my phone using my perosnal hotspot then I can watch it using app in GROM. The Bluetooth Mic is terrible. !!! Auto setting for mic gain isnt working great for me. Mounted near visor. I'd be willing to replace mic cable if it would make a difference.
Sounds like you have had your fair share off "fun" too. Hopefully it's working acceptably for you now. I'm happy with the end result for me. Just took some patients getting there.
I saw a comment on the Gas mileage range on my 2007 LS460. On the road I can get over 500 miles. I also saw comments on using a mouse.. might try
I haven’t used a mouse, but the mileage I’ve got first hand experience. I’ve done as good as 31.7mpg on a 200 mile trip. Not a big sample but pretty incredible.
I’ve hit 30 mpg multiple times. On the highway these cars are very fuel efficient. It’s actually surprising.
How I’m the world are u getting getting 528 miles in a full take 🙃 and can u use stock navigation? How does RUclips or Netflix work with connecting to hotspot good or egh
Just cruising on the highway. :)
You can toggle back and forth from the GROM to the factory system, so you can use factory navigation but I can't imagine wanting to. I use Waze or Google maps on my iPhone.
I haven’t used RUclips or Netflix so I can’t speak to that. Sorry.
Grom should just sell an upgraded screen so it's a full replacement
I’d buy it! That’d be sweet!
If only they were coming out with a vline3 with a better processor and newer version of Android. Ive been a pixel user for years and it would scare me knowing some apps from the play store are a year or two away from no longer working on Android 8
I completely agree. It's time for an update. If they are still a relevant company I'm sure they have an updated version in the works. I's probably worth wafting to find out.
@@bennieaust I'm looking to get into a LS and have been doing my research and that's my conclusion as well. I used to work for a Lexus dealer as a salesman in 2010 before going to graduate school and I always loved this version of the LS. So smooth and comfortable. Finding one sorted, or nearly sorted, and in good condition has been a fun search thus far.
@@chrishamby86 Mine is going up for sale this spring!
@@bennieaust I just got one. Well maintained 2007 on Cars and Bids. Picking it up in a couple of weeks. Any chance you can demo where you installed your VLine? I think I'm going to get the VLite if I can use SiriusXM at the same time as android auto. I know the VLine can't run SiriusXM at the same time which is a bummer.
@@chrishamby86 congrats on the purchase! I just located mine on top of the panel that goes under the glovebox/dash. The panel removes with no tools. I just set it on top of it. It's a snug fit, so it won't go anywhere, but you can access it if you need to.
Did this affect the sound system? For example I have the mark Levinson system and audio is important to me.
Thank you!
I also have the Mark Levinson system. It functions as normal but with the addition of CarPlay and Android Auto.
What about sound quality?
It's still running through the factory Amp and speakers. It does not reduce sound quality but also does not improve it.
@@bennieaust Thank you for your answer. That's not obvious, for example, in new cars, the sound quality from a phone is worse than a CD player. In this Carplay solution, they need to use DAP, and this is all about the DAP quality.
@@pawekorzeniewski4510 you’re welcome.
I don’t know the tech behind it but I do know the weakest link I’ve experienced is the quality of the recording. As long as you’re streaming service or audio files are of high quality you will be good to go.
did the dash say 277K?....sheesh!!!! dont nobody do it like toyota/lexus
I’m up to 283k. It’s parked for the winter so I haven’t been racking them up, but it’s got plenty. Runs like a top!
@@bennieaust That makes me happy, i just got one and its got 199K i love seeing all the owners just racking them miles up. Good video aswell, i will look into GROM.
@@truthbetold06 congrates on the purchase! They can run a long, long time. They are more costly than an ES350 but still a much cheaper car to own and maintain than the German counterparts.
@@bennieaust Thank you
A perfect example of the idiocy that is the Grom VLite. Customer service is so bad.
:(
Nice thanks..........
You’re welcome!
Way too much complications
For sure.
Why people talk about things that have nothing to do with the subject? Starting in the house, blah, blah, blah.....next video...
Thanks for watching. :)
DO NOT BUY GROM. Buy a BeatSonic. Works 100% flawless.
I had a NIGHTMARE time with Grom. Their unit everything in this video x10. Wireless disconnections, system crashes, Carplay not loading, backup camera not displaying 50% of the time or stuck when driving, low amperage USB charging, and so much more. I’ve literally taken my car apart a dozen times troubleshooting over several dozens of emails with Grom over months before I got them to return my unit. And they aren’t even on the same page. One email I’m talking to one tech another email another tech that has no clue what’s going on. The next email the tech is telling me to do the complete opposite of what the last guy told me to do. No one knows what they are doing at Grom.
They ultimately said my car is not compatible even though it’s on the compatible list. I believe they sold me a bad unit but, they refused to replace it and offer me a refund if the replacement didn’t fix the issue.
I replaced it with a BeatSonic unit and everything works flawlessly and requires zero firmware updates. It just works. Audio sounds amazing. The interface looks nicer and maps scroll onscreen just like on the iPhone. Etc. Those guys got it right at beatSonic.
Do you have a part number for the BeatSonic? I checked out their website and wasn't able to find anything?
Thanks!