Wrong Railing Damaged R62a 1 Train Derailment train 2176-2180 being towed past Times Square 42nd St
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- Because of the derailment a few days ago the MTA has been trying to restore service , move the derailed trains and fix up any damages
One step is to transfer the damaged R62a’s to 207st yard
It’s quite uncommon to see a move like this
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From a subway buff to a railfan, I want to thank the videographer who photographed this scene.
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@@keitho.sylvan1137 Buddy, you are welcome. From one subway buff to another or even a railfan, I am pleased to share information that I know. Thank you for typing to me.
@@keitho.sylvan1137Will it be repaired?
@@Gojira160 unknown I’ll ask around since I know many employees. If I get any response I’ll keep everyone updated
@@Gojira160 If there is a spare roof part available inside the shop, then the railcar [2176] may be repaired and restored for more revenue service.
It is really amazing how some people just don't have a clue. You see somebody filming and you gonna walk right up in the shot, stand there and block the shot, then just walk away as slowly as you please. You're either oblivious to what goes on around you, just don't care, or a willing sociopath.
Its pretty obvious to me and friends watching that the moron did it on purpose...but the mentality of today's people just don't allow for this kind of reasoning. Its not a question
of hate, but just an obvious fact. We have become a nation of sissies afraid to comment on right and wrong.
Yeah that guy seemed like a weirdo. Or a troll.
Coincidentally, the passengers walked as passerby without knowing that the railfan was recording a shot of the scene. In society, you cannot please everyone, including the public.
Dude doesn’t have any brains. 😂
he looked dazed as hell to be honest, like you can kinda tell he was zoned out and not looking at the camera 😭 I sometimes do this too by accident so I’m trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. Also like the person above me said people walk by and don’t see it all the time anyways. But other than that it was kind of odd that he js stood there and walked off slowly like that.
9:12 Interesting coupler adapter. Great catch of the damaged train.
I always imagine that’s what they used. Looks neat
Nice eye
@@1stwonder788 with electrical hookups also.
MCB (diesel) to H2C (R62A) adapter. No electrical or pneumatic connections, it's all iron to iron only.
The white cable you see is the MU cable that stretches to the other end of the train to connect to another diesel that can be hooked up on that end. If the diesel following connects to the other end then only the diesels (and their rider cars) provide braking, the 62As are dead weight
@@this51man thank you!
That’s the best picture I’ve seen of the damage yet
I try to bring the highest quality possible to my videos
Nice catch that R62a got mangled that's for sure. Ive never seen that many MTA diesels in one setting.
I'm loving the positivity and encouragement in this community. Let's spread more kindness!
As nice as that is the NYC transit community isn’t the nicest but I remember a time when it was. And yes I agree people should spread kindness and definitely treat me with more respect
Looks like it's still usable. They should just make sure it is safe, ignore the dents and keep it in service.
I agree but then it’s all about aesthetics lol
@@johnli25 the dirt on the rescue locos is aesthetically pleasing.....
Алюминий можно выстучать и отполировать. Будет выглядеть как с завода.
Very nice catch. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you very much for watching. I appreciate it
I don’t think this set will ever start service again
Very much so will get used for parts. Those trains pushing almost 50 years so sad. I miss the Redbirds but seeing these get trashed and deemed a loss hurts
@@Rayster.556 NYC is on a decline sadly. More subway cars are being vandalized
@@Rayster.556 Acutally, these are only 37-40 years old. I doubt these will see 50 when their replacements are about 2 years away (maybe less).
MTA doesn’t have money atm to replace those stocks
2176 is the only car being scrapped. The rest are gonna be paired up with a single set 62a ( check my community post for more info )
That dude that walked up on the shot was being mad weird.
I hate it. People have no respect. However I’m used to it. Sometimes I yell at them afterwards but when the video is recording I have to keep it professional. These videos will last long after my lifetime so I wanna make sure they could be enjoyed for lifetimes if this makes sense
Awesome Capture. Can't believe its just now being towed.
Tell me about it. It took awhile for them to tow it. Another friend of mine saw heading up about two hours after I last caught it around chambers st. Its approximate speed was 3 miles an hour supposedly.
So if the cars are being transferred to the 207st yard from an incident at 96st…what on earth are they doing at 42st!?
The two southbound tracks are ok. The only place to switch to either of those two tracks from the northbound tracks south of 96th St was at the 42nd St... at the end you could see the train switched track. From there, they have options when to switch to local track to continue to 207th St yard.
@@ATM015 ah I see, thank you!
207 Street shop is the second largest train shop in America right next to Coney Island Shop. 207 Street handles major repair jobs to A-Division rolling stock, as well as some B-2 Division rolling stock.
@@ATM015That bad-ordered (BO) train was headed to 207 Street Shop for inspection with the hope of possible repair or restoration to its top.
The routing took the trains down from the crash site at 96st , wrong railing on the express tracks to 42nd st ( where I recorded this ) , switched to the spur track and down the downtown express track to chambers street, then on the 1 line via South Ferry Loop and back up to 207st yard
The MTA needs to reevaluate their "vandalized" train policy. I'm sure whatever the damage to the train caused by the vandals is in no way near the damage and cost caused by them attempting to enforce their policy. Way to go MTA!!! Another smart move.
The train had to be taken out of service because the brakes wouldn’t reset on one of the trainsets. This was due to the emergency brakes being repeatedly pulled by vandals. The front trainset wasn’t functional, how do you expect them to keep it in service.
shouldnt be operating a subway train in the second car heads will rll on this i bet new policy is a out of service train has to have full power or be towed peroid NTSb isnt happy at all @@mleonee
@@mleoneeThe first trainset was out of service? How come nobody has brought up the 1970 Roosevelt Avenue collision? Wss the disabled train bring operated from the third car? Was it the disabled train that ran the red signals? Was there a crew member in the front car? What did he do at the signals? It all seems eerily familiar, except thank goodness for the fate of the passengers.
@@harveywachtel1091 It's obvious that someone should have been in the first car to watch the signals and relay back to the operator that the home signal at the north end of 96th St. was set against them so that the in service train could cross over to the local track and resume its regular route. The only main difference from the 1970 Roosevelt Avenue accident is that the trains were fortunately going very slowly which reduced the number of injuries.
@@1575murrayim late but the motorman that was operating that train when it had been vandalized was in the front car. The train supervisor was driving from the 6th car o the train. The Supervisor didn’t respond to his commands and ran thru the red signal at the diamond crossover with the other train crossing over it which had the train collide with jt.
2176 is finished, but the rest of those cars will be fine, they'll just slap a single unit to 2177-2180.
1934 got slapped to 2177-2180
Cool captures. Hopefully they will get repaired soon.
2176 is the only write off
Buddy in the black puff jacket was about to rob ya 😂…. That look told me your phone was his prize
yeah I wasn't gonna let that happen so easily. also I kept gesturing him to move anytime he looked at me.
Looks like car 2176 was seriously damaged. I'm not sure if one of the other cars in the derailment can be used for 2177-2180. If not, then the other 4 cars in the derailment won't be in service again.
That's a great video, even though it was still an incident.
thats no minor bump either
They still have plenty of R62AS on the 1 Broadway line and the 6 Pelham line.
@@leecornwell5632 Most of the R62A cars are coupled into 5 car sets except for the two 6 car sets on the 42nd St. Shuttle. There should still be a few single cars somewhere so that one can be found to replace the damaged 2176. Something like this was done to replace a damaged R46 car which got wrecked at 14th St.
2176 is done for
Is this the train that was vandalized prior to the collision?
Yes
@@Bombardier2199 😓
You got that right!
Yeah
Damn! Looks like the Chicago Transit Authority Yellow line car 5599 from November....
Not necessarily. Much of the damage to 2176 is on the roof where it made contact with the ceiling of the tunnel. The front end of the Chicago train was smooshed in almost like an accordion.
I’ll look into this
that dude in all black was acting sketchy asf lmao
He wanted the camera guy to know what a dickhead he was. Dickhead written all over him deliberately standing in front of somebody filming just to get in the way.
In other words no different than half of everyone ever waiting for a train at Times Sq.
@@Metsfan7232: Or just Times Square in general. It's hobo central.
Probably a CD hustler
Annoying asf, looking as if the train is coming when there is a whole ass locomotive right behind him, sketchy asf indeed.
It’d be considered a miracle if they somehow manage to get 2176 back in service. But seeing how severe the damage was to the car, it’s doubtful.
I dont think its that severe
@@Bobby_Duku depends on what the MTA will do
@@Bobby_Dukuexactly
I do not know how things goes in US, but usually the most expensive parts are boogies. Maybe restorable.?
Car number 1934: allow me to introduce myself
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Yikes... 2176 might not return to service.
Do you have footage of 2411-2414? (2415 was paired with another consist)
All it needs is a Repair and it'll be good
It is 50/50 because in 3 or so years these cars will be retired and replaced by R262
@@rivera5b 3 years is a little too little. They still have another 10-15 years left before they are retired
@@Bobby_Duku not necessarily, they came into service in the 80s and they are due to retire and I did say 3 years or so so that opens the door to them being on longer
@@rivera5b
We still got 70s cars, they are here to stay r62.
So now i guess they have to fix the tracks at 96? By the way it was nice seeing you at nothern blvd lol.
the tracks have now been fixed, and regular service is restored
The tracks and switches were already restored to excellent condition. Probably, the rails were not damaged or slightly damaged.
Yea, what I don't miss about NYC subways. Lots of potential weird ass people riding it. Like the one steering at the camera. And vandals causing accidents.
Thanks for this video and the one at 207 ST. A comment further down says this towing consist is headed to the old South Ferry loop to go uptown to the 207 ST yard lead. I thought at this point the uptown tracks were both out of service and not passable. So how did the consist get to 207 ST? What am I missing? I'm guessing the tracks at the collision site were repaired by this time.
If I recall correctly they towed them at a restricted speed over the collision site when heading back uptown
So they were towing the train with 2 locomotives and a car in between them. What was the purpose of that car? Also, why was there another set following behind?
One other thing, the yellow cars between the locomotives- what kind of cars were they?
Rider cars
@@leshaunbyrdmilligan9639 But those rider cars, do they have an "R" designation like the regular train cars, like R46, R32, etc.?
For braking?
Protection train kinda
Atleast this is repearable unlike that unlucky r142 that had caught on fire
2176 was written off. A single set car replaced it
So that R142 is alive still noice
@@supertrains156.66 that R142 from the fire in 2020 is sitting up in concourse yard awaiting scrapping alongside an R46. It’s getting vandalized badly…
Some of those people on the platform are idiots the emergency train is coming thru and they don’t stand back they just want to gork the driver keeps tooting his horn to no avail🙈
Good Gawd, just look at her…she may be scrapped. 😖😩
Not so fast! The upper left corner of the bonnet was damaged. I believe the bonnet will be replaced with a new one. That is a good reason the 5-car train was moved to 207 Street as the main shop which is the second largest train shop in America. You may want to read my comment for more information.
@@captainkeyboard1007 But remember that the R62A is roughly 40 now. She’s not gonna be easy to repair, given her age. R46 got scrapped because at then 46, some of her couldn’t be repaired.
@@kitsunefaye1661 The age of the railcar may not be decisive like the availability and the inavailability of spare parts. New York City Transit Car Equipment Department cannot afford to lose another railcar. The R46 cars are not altogether replaced. The R62A and R46 rolling stocks are not of the same division. The R62A is of the A-Division, and the R46 is of the B-1 & B-2 Divisions. Thank you for typing to me.
@@captainkeyboard1007 I know that. But age does factor into repairs. I’m a railfan myself.
@@kitsunefaye1661 Thank you for typing to me.
I rode The r62a the morning of the derailment. prob the last time i will ever ride that same set.
Indeed
If they're being transferred from 96th Street to 207th what are they doing at 42nd?
They headed down to the South Ferry Loop then headed uptown
Interesting video.
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Are they towing it to 207th, 238th, or the New Lots Yard? Do you think it'll be repaired, or scrapped?
All of them went to 207st yard
Deam thats a big one crash bro is it going to be fine?
Maybe the engineer/operator should’ve used the warning bell?
2176-2180 were out of service due to someone going through and pulling emergency stop handles
Indeed
The one train a.k.a. 2176 is out of commission most likely they will send it to Ohio for spare parts
Given how badly damaged 2176 is, and how likely it is they will be phased out starting sometime in this decade, I have little hope it'll return to service. What a shame, I rode on that car a few times in the past.
That south motor 2176 may be repaired.
Realistically, they will most likely cannibalize it for parts. 62A's are going to be in service for another 5-10 years.
Indeed
2176 is gonna be scrapped
I do hope that R62A gets repaired soon…
I was in the city riding that day but not that line until later that day. It was a mess getting around.
Indeed I missed the last train going through
That car is probably going to be scrapped and rightly so.
Yep
are those diesel locomotives?!
Wtf are they doing there at 42st
6:47 Oh My goodness
Was the R62 honking when it's broken?
It was the 3 train that was wrong railing next to it
Super cool video !!
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I already did it, Keith. Thanks again. And check out our aerial chases on Frog and Flange if that would interest you. James.@@keitho.sylvan1137
Remember everyone the R62 and R62A will retire between the 2030s. The MTA still hasn’t found a bidder yet to built the R262s. That goes the same with the R68 and R68A when it comes to the R268s. The Wikipedia doesn’t have accurate information.
Don't forget they are definitely gonna have the R262s open gangways and the R262As end ways just like the R211,As R211S just like Staten Island railroad. I'm telling you.
Only time will tell
Not the worst derailment in MTA's history though. Think there was one in the early 2000s that were pretty bad.
The worst one in modern MTA history to my knowledge is the Union Square Wreck derailment of 1991.
The worst ever goes to the Malbone Street Wreck
Will they repair the car or scrap it?
scrap
@@lopwr1212 really doesn't look that bad
2176 was decoupled and is gonna be scrapped
@@keitho.sylvan1137 it was alr stripped 4 parts
Stand any closer towards the track you'll be seeing the light from the other side.
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24 people are injured?
R.I.p 2176
it'll come back. it will be fixed by the yard
@@City-Knight91 nah bro it definitely getting scrapped it suffers frame damages
6:59 thats proof of a majo bump not minor my ass that was minor mta NTSB is really pissed aswell
How did you even find out when this would be here?
A group of us know employees and a few dedicated railfans kept tabs on it all day. This one was the last one to leave and the most damaged.
Interesting how they used two whole diesel shunter locos. What is the model I wonder? In Russia you wouldn't be able to fit a regular locomotive down into the tunnels so they use worker battery trains in the same gauge as the regular metro cars.
The diesels (and the yellow car) provide all the braking power, the damaged train is just dead weight
I believe the locomotive is called an R77
@@this51man Awesome, thanks for sharing! I got stuck for like ten minutes on a malfunctioning subway car in Moscow before Christmas. Couldn't close the doors properly. Had to be hauled away but by a third-rail driven work train from the nearest depot.
There’s a few different diesel models but I believe it was an R77
@@keitho.sylvan1137 Thanks 👍
All the people on the platform are absolutely clueless that the train is arriving the opposite direction.
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Poor 1 train
Early Retirement probably for 2176
So what exactly was the move here?
I thought they transported all bad ordered NYC Subway Cars to the 240th Street The Bronx Van Cortlandt Yards?
Nope they towed them to 207st
Ahhhh! Thanks for the info!👍@@keitho.sylvan1137
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2176 is done
Not really, it's likely to be repaired
Don't do drugs so you can make intelligent decisions.
New york is getting worse and worse everyday, now train derialments are happening. This is way too crazy.
This one was very similar to the 1970 F train derailment as people have pointed out
Eh, doesn’t look too damaged. If anything it might get repaired and running again.
I don’t think so 2176 is by itself sitting in 207st Yard
2177-2180 have returned to service with 1934 as the leading car.
@@thoseonetrains I need to record that
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If anything happens to the r211😡
This is the MTA. It’s only a matter of time. Plus all of them got graffitied prior to them entering passenger service
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Yikes
Yikes indeed
6:58 r62a got brain damage
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spending billions on trains instead of proper housing for newyorkers ❤ yay!!!!
If people can't get to work, how will the freeloader get welfare and housing?
@@lie01234, there's no need for you to be attacking anybody because they have to be on welfare (which _isn't_ as big as people like you make it out to be, anyway.)
Us new Yorkers need these trains bruh
@@lie01234😂
The trains provide a service. Unless people want to walk miles and miles! Like the sh1t stains that ruined this train!
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