🐝WHY KILL THE QUEEN? WHY NOT JUST LET HER GO? This is why... The queen has only one job in the hive: She is there to lay eggs. That's it. This queen had a suitable hive and colony for 5 weeks and did not lay a single egg as far as I could see. If the queen does not lay eggs, the colony will not have new brood to replenish the dying workers and eventually (within months) the whole colony will be dead. So... the queen needs to be replaced with a NEW mated queen. BUT, you can't just put a new queen in the box because 1 of 3 things will happen... 1. The workers will see the new queen as an intruder and murder her. 2. The old queen and new queen will fight each other to the death. 3. The new queen will see a colony that already has a queen and nope right out of there and fly off. The way to have the best chance of successfully introducing a NEW queen is to first make sure the hive is queenless, let the colony realize they are queenless (after at least 4-6 hours) and then slowly introduce the NEW queen. The queenless colony should then accept her with open arms. So, why kill the old queen? You can't just let her go. Bees are very attached to their hives. You could take her across the field and let her go and she'll fly right back into the hive. (Then she'll try to kill the new queen.) So why not just drive her 5 miles away and let her go into the woods? Because a queen without a hive is a dead queen. She won't know what to do with herself. When a queen is in the hive, she's literally cleaned and fed by attendants. If she was lost in the woods, she'd be eaten by a bird or have slow lonely death. But what if she flew and found another hive?!? Well, then that hive would be right back where this hive was... It would be a hive with a non-laying queen and it would be dead in months. So she was a useless bee and the only option was to squash her. It's for the good of the hive and it's a quick painless death. RIP queen.
Wow that is sad! Beekeeping is definitely not for me, because there is no way I would be able to make a decision like that. RIP old queen. also: why isn't she laying any eggs?
She was killed to save the 20,000 other bees. The hive is still alive and thriving. I don't know the exact reason for her inability to lay eggs, but there was nothing I could have done about it. The goal is to save the hive. Every worker bee in the hive would give their life to save the hive.
I've been told by some people to keep the old (dead) queen and put her to the cage with the new queen, so the bees think the new queen has defeated the old one, which will make them more accepting. Bee justice.
Take the queen hostage and hold a ransom demanding that all honey goes to you. ocasionally give them photos of the queen bee to make sure she is ok and that the ransom is still in effect
You sacrificed a queen to save thousands of bees. Sounds like a good plan to me. Nice job! Jim, did you have any luck at all with your swarm trap at all?
I'm allergic to bee stings, never been into bee hives in any way but this video is pretty fucking cool. It's very packed with knowledge and love seeing the whole process go down. Trial and error and then seeing results is what I love seeing. Keep up the uploads if you can.
LMAO THE WAY HE AWKWARDLY SCRAPED HER TO DEATH WITH THE TOOL OFF CAMERA AND PROCEEDED TO BURY HER 😂😂 then he was like um so that was not how I wanted the burial to go
8:40 "I've never picked up a queen, I'mna try to pick 'er up" Me: Oh hey, I wonder what kinda tool he's gonna use to pickup the queen, I saw the other guy had like a hairclip-cage thingy but will that work on a hive... *hand appears in picture* Me: OMG WHAT ARE YOU DOING
@@nightmarekhazix4419 the whole video is uncomfortable for me (in an enthralling way), I'm used to treating bees as unpredictable stinging machines to be avoided at all costs, so seeing someone put their bare hand near a bunch of bees is surprising to say the least. Even if I knew the queen didn't sting (I didn't! guess that makes sense tho), I'd be worried about all the other bees trying to protect her.
@@shelvacu They do consider protecting them but as a beekepeper myself the european honeybees (In Greece) are quite friendly. Anything that can result in a sting? Usually fast movements from your part. or if you hit a bee or try and run,and annoy the hive a lot. Then they will feel threatened . But otherwise they don't attack for no reason. The stinging machines you're refering to are supposed to be wasps/hornets since they are predators and their entire purpose is to be agressive at all times. Overall the male bee(Called Drone) also doesn't sting. the rest of the bees in the hive are female and are considered *workers* and they sting only if they feel like you're a threat. Using smoke will calm them down and even not Literally but *make them high* which increases the amount of time it takes for them to get agressive
*thus letting you keep the hive open for a longer period of time*. Also don't annoy hives if it's windy or it's about the rain. Ofcourse it sounds common sense but some people still do that . lol
Hey! In future when killing queens, it is often quite useful to save them and keep them in rubbing alcohol or similar. This will eventually pick up her pheromones and you can then use it as a swarm lure, obviously adding more queens as they die! Another great video! Thanks!
Mutepu Games Yup. I know this. That was the plan, but she got away from me and I didn't want to risk grabbing her again and her flying away. So I just crushed her quickly as possible. It was stressful.
Ah! Fair enough, better to make sure she's dead than to have her get back in and kill the new one! At least you can rest assured that the hive will be better off with the new queen!
Just revisiting as I think this is the first video I watched of Vino farm. I then binge watched all the rest, and became a beekeeper the next year because of this channel. That was last year, now in my second year and have 9 colonies.
Nadesican It's something I'd like to learn to do. I figured it was worth it to give it a shot on a queen that was about to die. The feeling was not what I expected. It was like a buzzer or a shock. I got startled and dropped her and she jumped off the frame. Also, grabbing a bee barehanded goes against all human instincts. I need to get over the apprehension.
I've seen "queen catchers" on some beekeeping supply websites..kind of looks like a metal turtle clip that women use in their hair....might be worth looking into...great video !!
best to grab them by the wings :) not as much "buzz" ...you can practice picking up drones that way - at least you know you will not get stung while you practice and get used to the sensation :) Good job ...deed done!
I have not dared to touch whatever bee with my bare hands. Even get uncomfortable if they walk over my hands while handling a frame. At the very first time I did it, I nearly dropped the frame to run away, but I managed to control myself and stay calm... I really do use those queen catchers, which also come in handy for removing insects and spiders from the house... ;)
When you moved the brood over from the larger colony to the weak one, I'd suggest making it all capped brood with no young larvae. The queenless for several hours colony you moved the all stages brood comb into may start making emergency queen cells over the young larvae, then you put your caged queen in which adds another couple hours until candy plug is chewed through. If they do start cells, will make them less accepting of your mated queen. All capped brood gives them a secure feeling but also makes them more inclined to accept your mated queen (since no larvae young enough for emergency queens).
I love your sense of affection & reverence for these bees. I've always loved bees, & never understood the aversion people have for them. Bees are the very foundation for our food supply, and a benefactor of humankind. I mean, sure, they will sting you if provoked, but so will a dog with their bite, or a cat, or basically any living creature. I get that some people are allergic to the sting, so in those cases, it makes sense. But, I don't think most people take the time to learn about, and appreciate bees. They just see them as a nuisance. I'm living in the city right now, renting a room, but when I had a home in the country, and a garden, I would daily stand among the lavender patch I planted, as thousands of bees busily gathered nectar. It was not only a daily routine, since my herb garden was adjacent, but it was a time of meditation. I always felt a sense of calm, and relief of stress amongst the beauty of their activity. It was my happy place. My family thought I was nuts, but I never got stung. I realize, in watching just a few of your videos on beekeeping, that it's vastly different than simply walking into a field of lavender. It's a lot work & dedication, but I shared my experience to lay a foundation for my comment. Thank you for your love & dedication to these amazing creatures, and their promotion.
I do get stung... Once in a while. As long as you're calm and move slowly and carefully, the bees don't bother you. They will attack if you are clumsy and start squishing or crushing bees, though.
This has been answered several times below, but I'll try once more and pin this! The queen has only one job in the hive: She is there to lay eggs. That's it. This queen had a suitable hive and colony for 5 weeks and did not lay a single egg as far as I could see. If the queen does not lay eggs, the colony will not have new brood to replenish the dying workers and eventually (within months) the whole colony will be dead. So... the queen needs to be replaced with a NEW mated queen. BUT, you can't just put a new queen in the box because 1 of 3 things will happen... 1. The workers will see the new queen as an intruder and murder her. 2. The old queen and new queen will fight each other to the death. 3. The new queen will see a colony that already has a queen and nope right out of there and fly off. The way to have the best chance of successfully introducing a NEW queen is to first make sure the hive is queenless, let the colony realize they are queenless (after at least 4-6 hours) and then slowly introduce the NEW queen. The queenless colony should then accept her with open arms. So, why kill the old queen? You can't just let her go. Bees are very attached to their hives. You could take her across the field and let her go and she'll fly right back into the hive. (Then she'll try to kill the new queen.) So why not just drive her 5 miles away and let her go into the woods? Because a queen without a hive is a dead queen. She won't know what to do with herself. When a queen is in the hive, she's literally cleaned and fed by attendants. If she was lost in the woods, she'd be eaten by a bird or have slow lonely death. But what if she flew and found another hive?!? Well, then that hive would be right back where this hive was... It would be a hive with a non-laying queen and it would be dead in months. So she was a useless bee and the only option was to squash her. It's for the good of the hive and it's a quick painless death. RIP queen.
May I also add. If she was released and found another hive, or found in the wild by other bee's, the workers (if they saw her as an intruder) would then try and kill her by balling. This is where the bee's will all group up and form a ball with her in the middle, trapping her and then vibrate to make heat. This cooks her alive, a slow and painful death that may also kill other workers near the center of the ball from the queen fighting back or from heat as well. This happens in the wild all the time and even when hives like shown here reject a new queen. That's why with Beekeeping queens are kept in small cages, to keep her safe in case the hive rejects her. If they do reject her she'll be safe in the cage, she can then be removed and placed back later for another attempt, and if that still fails she can be used in another hive or to start a fresh new one. In my eyes, however, a fast quick death of being squished is more humane than what nature does, balling, or just dying a slow death alone, and it doesn't put other hives at risk of an infertile queen getting into a healthy hive and dooming it if she does manage to kill the hives existing queen.
Even if the Queen wouldn't die in isolation, they are absolute hive insects. Isolation would put her in the most stressful and devastating situation. What would you prefer? Living all your life in an isolation cell 24/7 or dying quickly? And now add the hive mentality to that and you know why keeping a single bee as a pet is nothing but torture to it.
Good job! I haven't had to pinch/kill a queen yet but I'm sure it is a matter of time. Both of my hives are doing really well. I have already done one harvest from the flow hive and will probably do another one this weekend. We are in the middle of our biggest honey flow of the year so they are bringing it in fast.
I would stop feeding the strong hive and put a box of drawn comb on top then a queen excluder then your flow hive. This will give the bees time to make a super or 2 of honey for them and with luck fill your flow frames. I like the bees to have 3 brood boxes so there is no worry about having enough stores for the winter. I'm in PA and I've seen all types of winters and how they affect bees.
larry tornetta I'm all out of drawn comb. I have lots of frames. I'm trying to get the bees to draw some frames for me so that's why I'm feeding. I thought about a third brood box, but I'm not sure Russians would go for that. I've been reading that they are more conservative with their resources and expansion. If they have two solid brood boxes before July, I'm thinking they're going to be OK for the fall. I'm still experimenting. This is my first time with Russians and just the start of my second season. I'm curious to see what the requeened hive will do with an actual laying queen. If they explode like the other hive, maybe I can try a third brood box over there. I don't know anyone with three brood boxes in this area. Two is most common. Thanks for watching.
kingfish990 Wind. Back when this was filmed, the wind would flip lids off and tip hives. Now that our hedge has grown in I just put a cinder block on top.
"There's nothing graphic in this video,..." Thanks for that, i was a little afraid. Thanks for all the explanation, you have very interesting Videos - Keep it up!
Not a stupid question. This is exactly what the old queen did. Queens live about 5 years. She swarmed for the last time to form this colony to die. Since she is out of eggs this colony was dead. Once the workers were too old to gather pollen, they nurse (make nectar, wax and honey and feed larvae and queen). No new larvae so end of the life cycle and dead hive. The new queen was grabbed after her mating flight (before her first swarm) so she could be introduced to a new hive. This will be considered her first hive. If you watch the video again you will see the "left hive" making queen cells (with drone cells) and lots of brood. There can only be one Queen. Once the new queens hatch (probably not at the same time), mates with the drones (who die after mating) and comes back, the established (old) queen will take a portion of the workers and swarm away, she will try to keep doing this every year. (Thus pro-creating hives) In some cases, with multiple queen confusion (and other reasons), all the queens leave. This is called absconding.
Ah see now I must be the sadistic son of a b*tch cause I really wanted to watch you end her reign... But no, did it off camera, barely even seen a body. If this was a t.v. show I wouldn't even be convinced she was dead.
Ronald Huffington yep, totally pulled an Osama , the bitch is probably sharing a cabana with him sippin Mia tais, both complaining how they used to have hundreds of servants and now they have to wait 2 min for a refill
Was that a queen cup I saw on the frame from Hive Right? The one the false Queen was on. It was at the bottom of the frame as you were putting it back in.
There was no egg laying or new brood for 5 weeks. This queen had a problem. If there was some kind of external factor preventing her from laying, then why did the new queen fill the hive with eggs within a week of being introduced? If there was some kind of varroa problem, it didn't stop the new queen. All evidence points to a problem queen. When she was changed, the hive took off.
@er asdef she was going to die anyway, and kill off the colony as well. If he didn't take her far enough away she would come back and kill the other queen or die while TRYING to kill the new queen. If he took her far enough away she would either die because she wouldn't know what to do with herself and die slowly and lonely or by being eaten. If she found a new hive in the wild, she would fight that hive's old queen and have a similar outcome to if she came back to her hive. If she won, that wild colony would die off. Bees are emotionally attached to their hives so even if she found a new hive there is no guarantee that she would even want to take it over. So yes, while it was a human who ended her life...it was the most humane thing to do for the queen while trying to help the colony survive and it was natural. If you would actually read the info that the uploader posts you might have understood that. 💁 You could have at least looked or skimmed to see IF he gave additional info, which he did.
I saw you put the new brood along with some of the bees into the new hive. The old bees easily accept the new brood cells with no problem? What about the new bees that were on the new frame? Will they be accepted?
A few straggler nurse bees on a frame of brood will assimilate fine. What bees don't like are foragers walking in the front door stealing resources. Even a wayward "foreign" bee with a mouthful of nectar will be accepted even if it's not from the colony. Bees just want everyone in the hive working toward the health of the hive.
I've was following you from the start but kind of lost track around spring when you lost a lot of stock...if I remember correctly. I see you have gotten comfortable enough to ditch the gloves! Cool. In the spring I had swarm issues and ended up with over 20 capped queens. I thought I was doing good staying on it. Long story short, I had to scrape over a dozen queen cells out and they all were ready to hatch. So I had a jar with a lot of queens that were all alive. As I was scraping them, they were hatching! It was so hard killing them! I know how you felt. But now my hives are all doing very well. I now have 3 that were all splits from original. I'm going to try and get caught up with you, but work has been crazy and so has life. BTW I've been keeping for just under a year. Thanks for the effort you have put in to your videos. FL BIll
tired of me yet? Yes and i did kill a bee before and well your right also i can see ant blood it looks like bogers and for some reason a fly have red blood
i stumbled onto this video randomly. I've never had any interest in bee keeping but this video was very entertaining and actually really interesting. the whole queen killing was funny. i hope your business is going strong!
Hey neighbor. Ashburnham here again. We had to requeen last night. It was a split second decision, and you wouldn't believe the story if I told it to you. Now comes the waiting to see if they accept her. I swear I haven't slept since May. Nothing easy about it, but you did the right thing.
Wow! We have similar luck. Is the queen cell on the brood frame you added? We got 2 nucs, 1st of May. Joy and Jasmine. Joy drew out her frames in a little over a week (faster than we were expecting). We added a 2nd brood box. Two weeks later, they had drawn out 2 frames up top, with some supersedure cells in the centers, including a fully capped one. Joy had a beautiful brood pattern. She swarmed 4 days after we found the cells, June 8th. 100' up into a pine tree. She left 5 frames of brood, a frame of capped honey, and 6 queen cells at various stages. Since we found a capped queen on the 3rd, we were assuming she'd hatch somewhere around the 11th. 5 days for shell to harden. Mating flights somewhere around the 16th (it rained for a few days). On the 21st, we found a queen, dead, outside of our weak hive-Jasmine. Huge, beautiful queen. Jasmine had the spotty brood pattern. Never saw any eggs. And over the next few weeks, DWV, chewed through brood, workers pulling out larvae and pupae daily, bees crawling on the ground in front of the hive. We are treating for all of it, but the brood pattern remained spotty. Requested a State inspection. We find the dead queen. Inspect Jasmine, and see her almost immediately. Inspect Joy: no eggs, no larvae, can't see a queen. Videoed every frame and watched it in slo-mo for hours - did not see a queen. Ordered a new one. Installed her last Saturday. She's in a plastic cage w/o attendants, and had marshmallows capping her in. She was still in there on Thursday - not a good sign. KW from the State came on Friday. Says Joy must be queenright. Sure enough, open up the hive and there's one frame, 1/3 full of freshly laid eggs. He says she must have started laying in the past day or two. The queen we bought was still in her cage. Open up Jasmine, he says "heavy mite damage and you have a queen who isn't laying." My husband pulled out Jasmine, smushed her, we duct-taped the end of new queens cage (per the inspector's instructions and installed her immediately). Yesterday, we removed the duct tape, added fondant, and put her back in there, bu they were balling her. I sprayed the bees and frames w/sugar water, and a mix of lemongrass/spearmint. And now, we wait..... My husband picked up some hardware cloth this morning, and we may try the cage thing.
I took a class at Monty Tech prior to starting this, but this has been our Crash Course! Recording everything, but on our IPhones. I plan to edit it someday. The swarm was amazing. Our hives are 200' from our house, and I could hear them from inside! Not what we wanted to happen, but incredible none-the-less. Caught the virgin piping. She may or may not still be alive.... Love your videos, though. They make this all less surreal. We're sorry you have to solve this one, but am looking forward to seeing the results! We're rooting for you all!
C'mon people. Most of you who watched this video eat meat and therefore support the slaughter of animals, so one little queen bee isn't too much death and carnage.
I have no idea what im doing here but, curiosity question, when you put a panel from a different colony in there, wont those bees attack the bees in the new panel? o.O
If you were born to only have babies and everything else was provided for you and you were pampered beyond your senses, you would be killed if you can’t breed.
Great video! Very informative. I have a question though, when you put the frame from the strong hive in to the weak hive, what happened to the bees that went with it? Would their new hivemates kill the intruders, would they fly back to the strong hive or just assimilate in to their new hive?
+cory cuculis The scary part is the feeling of responsibility toward the hive... the constant fear that I'm going to do something stupid and destroy the colony. The bees aren't scary. They have jobs to do and will only mess with you if you mess with them. Be gentle and they ignore you.
Thankyou im not sure why ive watched so many bee hive videos past couple of days but its really interesting. Thank you as a found a a few things through this video. I never knew what why the queen was in a little box & how she got out. Is it possible you could make a video for us new people totally clueless to it, like all the terminology and what its means etc. Brood? Why different things on different planks & what they are for etc. Thankyou
I would understand the straps if bees were being transported. Since they are not being transported, why the straps. Are you concerned they will topple over?
How can you tell which bee is the queen? Its hard for me to tell through the screen so I'm wondering what she looks like in person. Oh is it bc she is marked yellow? Is every queen marked with yellow?
Hi: I just subscribed . Question for someone that is "beestupid!" When you moved the brood frame into the week hive, how did you know that there was not a queen on that frame? and what would of happened if there was? Thanks you I and I enjoy the videos .
I edited it out, but I did a thorough scan of the frame before I shook the bees off. You don't want to shake your queen around and definitely don't want to put two queens in a box. They will either be killed by the guard bees or fight each other to the death.
The decision to do it was tough. It took me all afternoon to get ready for it. The killing could have been smoother. I did feel bad, but it wasn't a tearful moment.
🐝WHY KILL THE QUEEN? WHY NOT JUST LET HER GO? This is why...
The queen has only one job in the hive: She is there to lay eggs. That's it. This queen had a suitable hive and colony for 5 weeks and did not lay a single egg as far as I could see. If the queen does not lay eggs, the colony will not have new brood to replenish the dying workers and eventually (within months) the whole colony will be dead. So... the queen needs to be replaced with a NEW mated queen.
BUT, you can't just put a new queen in the box because 1 of 3 things will happen...
1. The workers will see the new queen as an intruder and murder her.
2. The old queen and new queen will fight each other to the death.
3. The new queen will see a colony that already has a queen and nope right out of there and fly off.
The way to have the best chance of successfully introducing a NEW queen is to first make sure the hive is queenless, let the colony realize they are queenless (after at least 4-6 hours) and then slowly introduce the NEW queen. The queenless colony should then accept her with open arms.
So, why kill the old queen? You can't just let her go. Bees are very attached to their hives. You could take her across the field and let her go and she'll fly right back into the hive. (Then she'll try to kill the new queen.) So why not just drive her 5 miles away and let her go into the woods? Because a queen without a hive is a dead queen. She won't know what to do with herself. When a queen is in the hive, she's literally cleaned and fed by attendants. If she was lost in the woods, she'd be eaten by a bird or have slow lonely death. But what if she flew and found another hive?!? Well, then that hive would be right back where this hive was... It would be a hive with a non-laying queen and it would be dead in months.
So she was a useless bee and the only option was to squash her. It's for the good of the hive and it's a quick painless death. RIP queen.
Wow that is sad! Beekeeping is definitely not for me, because there is no way I would be able to make a decision like that. RIP old queen.
also: why isn't she laying any eggs?
Vino Farm u are not right
She was killed to save the 20,000 other bees. The hive is still alive and thriving. I don't know the exact reason for her inability to lay eggs, but there was nothing I could have done about it. The goal is to save the hive. Every worker bee in the hive would give their life to save the hive.
Well the queen lays the eggs...So the queens job is very important so she can make more bees to pollinate flowers =D
Life happens you know. Things live and die
"I'm going to take her out... and then I'm going to take her out." lol
Kiz zie just saw your comment as he said that lol
he means he will take her out of the hive and then take her out (kill her)
Ole Hofmann yes, which is why it's funny
Ole Hofmann When people have to explain the joke, thereby ruining it. 🤦♂️
kizzy i liked that part too
Talk about a buzz kill
Alex Crocker you hurt my soul
Hahaha
Please...... stop
Lol
Alex Crocker good one
I've been told by some people to keep the old (dead) queen and put her to the cage with the new queen, so the bees think the new queen has defeated the old one, which will make them more accepting. Bee justice.
numbertwelve LOL
really? i thought that that happened only with ants
until they realize the deception and a civil war errupts
Queen is dead. Long live the Queen!
Andrés Der Sleepy It might be a similar Hive mentality in general
Take the queen hostage and hold a ransom demanding that all honey goes to you. ocasionally give them photos of the queen bee to make sure she is ok and that the ransom is still in effect
Send one of her fingers.
Oh my god you lot are barbaric!
XD
😂😂😂
Good to see Littlefinger find a hobby that suits him.
Hhahahhahah good one!
I'm crying ahhaha.
I died because its true.
oh no.... please, too much.
I could type nothing better, I tip my hat to you sir
"I'm gonna take her out, and them i'm gonna take her out." holy shit i laughed
*smacks hand* long live the queen
So, you french revolution the hive and call up for a more productive parliamentary monarchy.
GeneticAlgorithm11111001000 omg this made my day
bruhh
r/historymemes
Its a russian hive. It was the Russian revolution, and it was for the good of the working class.
NERD ALERT!!
You did the right thing! I hope they take to the new queen well. The queen is dead, long live the queen!
Long live the queen!
We have to talk about your loyalty. Please come with us peacefully, sir!
WHERE IS DE QWEEN
Harper Wall
Did you read The Bees too ?
Because that was a line from laline paul's The Bees
GTA STUNTS AND VIDEOS she did not kno de wae
me, watching this video at 6:45AM: i don't even know a damn thing about bees but this fella can teach me
桑田怜恩 ikr
桑田怜恩 same
Same
Right
He's a damn queen bee killer
You sacrificed a queen to save thousands of bees. Sounds like a good plan to me. Nice job! Jim, did you have any luck at all with your swarm trap at all?
^^^ What they said!
Nothing in the swarm trap! Still waiting.
She was laying, just a bad pattern, there was capped brood at 5 weeks on those frames
You could've just released the queen miles away from the hive and let nature take its course.
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Paul Otis ii
WHY AM I STUCK WATCHING BEE VIDEOS FOR 1 HOUR
Alex Rasidakis
Make it two!
Cuz u have no life.
I've been watching bee videos for 3 days!
Dude wait til you find Hornet King and his chickens.
The Queen is dead. Long live the Queen.
I'm allergic to bee stings, never been into bee hives in any way but this video is pretty fucking cool. It's very packed with knowledge and love seeing the whole process go down. Trial and error and then seeing results is what I love seeing. Keep up the uploads if you can.
I saw the killer in his eyes when he said i'm going to take her out.
Isn’t that normal if you’re about to kill someone who is useless for you’re business
My whole family is laughing over this comment
Calm down, Professor Chaos.
He is a serial killer
The queen wasnt laying eggs he had to
I'm suddenly really interested in beekeeping!
Evan Brisson me too but then some experience from retrospect came in mind and plan failed
"I'm gonna take her out... and then I'm gonna take her out." lol, I see what you did there.
canisfamiliaris4 imagine stealing comments
Simon It’s quoted, and i haven’t seen anyone say what he just said.
LMAO THE WAY HE AWKWARDLY SCRAPED HER TO DEATH WITH THE TOOL OFF CAMERA AND PROCEEDED TO BURY HER 😂😂 then he was like um so that was not how I wanted the burial to go
To top it off, he put her in an unmarked grave ;)
10:09 “the queen is dead” sound like a good movie or novel.
Isnt that a music album
That's actually an album from The Smiths lol
I can’t believe I watched 20 minutes of this and subscribed
8:40 "I've never picked up a queen, I'mna try to pick 'er up"
Me: Oh hey, I wonder what kinda tool he's gonna use to pickup the queen, I saw the other guy had like a hairclip-cage thingy but will that work on a hive...
*hand appears in picture*
Me: OMG WHAT ARE YOU DOING
shelvacu yes!! I reacted the same way! 😳😳😳😳😳
the queen doesn't sting. Completely harmless
@@nightmarekhazix4419 the whole video is uncomfortable for me (in an enthralling way), I'm used to treating bees as unpredictable stinging machines to be avoided at all costs, so seeing someone put their bare hand near a bunch of bees is surprising to say the least. Even if I knew the queen didn't sting (I didn't! guess that makes sense tho), I'd be worried about all the other bees trying to protect her.
@@shelvacu They do consider protecting them but as a beekepeper myself the european honeybees (In Greece) are quite friendly. Anything that can result in a sting? Usually fast movements from your part. or if you hit a bee or try and run,and annoy the hive a lot. Then they will feel threatened . But otherwise they don't attack for no reason. The stinging machines you're refering to are supposed to be wasps/hornets since they are predators and their entire purpose is to be agressive at all times.
Overall the male bee(Called Drone) also doesn't sting. the rest of the bees in the hive are female and are considered *workers* and they sting only if they feel like you're a threat. Using smoke will calm them down and even not Literally but *make them high* which increases the amount of time it takes for them to get agressive
*thus letting you keep the hive open for a longer period of time*. Also don't annoy hives if it's windy or it's about the rain. Ofcourse it sounds common sense but some people still do that . lol
idk why im watching im scared of bees but it s just interesting for me
Bitter red flags already. XD
12345678910 typical perv
Hey! In future when killing queens, it is often quite useful to save them and keep them in rubbing alcohol or similar. This will eventually pick up her pheromones and you can then use it as a swarm lure, obviously adding more queens as they die!
Another great video!
Thanks!
Mutepu Games Yup. I know this. That was the plan, but she got away from me and I didn't want to risk grabbing her again and her flying away. So I just crushed her quickly as possible. It was stressful.
Ah! Fair enough, better to make sure she's dead than to have her get back in and kill the new one! At least you can rest assured that the hive will be better off with the new queen!
This is false
Why? please explain
Its thinking like a hunter think like a swarm they have a queen why would they look for other queen?
Just revisiting as I think this is the first video I watched of Vino farm. I then binge watched all the rest, and became a beekeeper the next year because of this channel. That was last year, now in my second year and have 9 colonies.
Pulling the queen by hand seems like something of a clunky process. It might be easier to do in the future with a set of tweezers.
Nadesican It's something I'd like to learn to do. I figured it was worth it to give it a shot on a queen that was about to die. The feeling was not what I expected. It was like a buzzer or a shock. I got startled and dropped her and she jumped off the frame. Also, grabbing a bee barehanded goes against all human instincts. I need to get over the apprehension.
I've seen "queen catchers" on some beekeeping supply websites..kind of looks like a metal turtle clip that women use in their hair....might be worth looking into...great video !!
best to grab them by the wings :) not as much "buzz" ...you can practice picking up drones that way - at least you know you will not get stung while you practice and get used to the sensation :) Good job ...deed done!
I have not dared to touch whatever bee with my bare hands. Even get uncomfortable if they walk over my hands while handling a frame. At the very first time I did it, I nearly dropped the frame to run away, but I managed to control myself and stay calm... I really do use those queen catchers, which also come in handy for removing insects and spiders from the house... ;)
At least she got a proper burial
Vino Farm: "I'm sorry queen!"
One Republic: "It's too late to apologize."
When you moved the brood over from the larger colony to the weak one, I'd suggest making it all capped brood with no young larvae. The queenless for several hours colony you moved the all stages brood comb into may start making emergency queen cells over the young larvae, then you put your caged queen in which adds another couple hours until candy plug is chewed through. If they do start cells, will make them less accepting of your mated queen. All capped brood gives them a secure feeling but also makes them more inclined to accept your mated queen (since no larvae young enough for emergency queens).
I love your sense of affection & reverence for these bees. I've always loved bees, & never understood the aversion people have for them. Bees are the very foundation for our food supply, and a benefactor of humankind.
I mean, sure, they will sting you if provoked, but so will a dog with their bite, or a cat, or basically any living creature.
I get that some people are allergic to the sting, so in those cases, it makes sense. But, I don't think most people take the time to learn about, and appreciate bees. They just see them as a nuisance.
I'm living in the city right now, renting a room, but when I had a home in the country, and a garden, I would daily stand among the lavender patch I planted, as thousands of bees busily gathered nectar. It was not only a daily routine, since my herb garden was adjacent, but it was a time of meditation. I always felt a sense of calm, and relief of stress amongst the beauty of their activity. It was my happy place. My family thought I was nuts, but I never got stung.
I realize, in watching just a few of your videos on beekeeping, that it's vastly different than simply walking into a field of lavender. It's a lot work & dedication, but I shared my experience to lay a foundation for my comment.
Thank you for your love & dedication to these amazing creatures, and their promotion.
you deserve a lot more subscribers than you have, you’re so enthusiastic and lively, it’s refreshing
The hardest decisions require the strongest wills...
I love how he unceremoniously buries her 😂😂🤣
This is fascinating. 🙂 How do you keep from getting stung in the hands?
I do get stung... Once in a while. As long as you're calm and move slowly and carefully, the bees don't bother you. They will attack if you are clumsy and start squishing or crushing bees, though.
Why kill the queen
This has been answered several times below, but I'll try once more and pin this!
The queen has only one job in the hive: She is there to lay eggs. That's it. This queen had a suitable hive and colony for 5 weeks and did not lay a single egg as far as I could see. If the queen does not lay eggs, the colony will not have new brood to replenish the dying workers and eventually (within months) the whole colony will be dead. So... the queen needs to be replaced with a NEW mated queen.
BUT, you can't just put a new queen in the box because 1 of 3 things will happen... 1. The workers will see the new queen as an intruder and murder her. 2. The old queen and new queen will fight each other to the death. 3. The new queen will see a colony that already has a queen and nope right out of there and fly off.
The way to have the best chance of successfully introducing a NEW queen is to first make sure the hive is queenless, let the colony realize they are queenless (after at least 4-6 hours) and then slowly introduce the NEW queen. The queenless colony should then accept her with open arms.
So, why kill the old queen? You can't just let her go. Bees are very attached to their hives. You could take her across the field and let her go and she'll fly right back into the hive. (Then she'll try to kill the new queen.) So why not just drive her 5 miles away and let her go into the woods? Because a queen without a hive is a dead queen. She won't know what to do with herself. When a queen is in the hive, she's literally cleaned and fed by attendants. If she was lost in the woods, she'd be eaten by a bird or have slow lonely death. But what if she flew and found another hive?!? Well, then that hive would be right back where this hive was... It would be a hive with a non-laying queen and it would be dead in months.
So she was a useless bee and the only option was to squash her. It's for the good of the hive and it's a quick painless death. RIP queen.
May I also add. If she was released and found another hive, or found in the wild by other bee's, the workers (if they saw her as an intruder) would then try and kill her by balling. This is where the bee's will all group up and form a ball with her in the middle, trapping her and then vibrate to make heat. This cooks her alive, a slow and painful death that may also kill other workers near the center of the ball from the queen fighting back or from heat as well.
This happens in the wild all the time and even when hives like shown here reject a new queen. That's why with Beekeeping queens are kept in small cages, to keep her safe in case the hive rejects her. If they do reject her she'll be safe in the cage, she can then be removed and placed back later for another attempt, and if that still fails she can be used in another hive or to start a fresh new one.
In my eyes, however, a fast quick death of being squished is more humane than what nature does, balling, or just dying a slow death alone, and it doesn't put other hives at risk of an infertile queen getting into a healthy hive and dooming it if she does manage to kill the hives existing queen.
If leave the queen alive it will go back to the hive and a war will probably happen.
She would starve and die. The workers tend to her every need, cleaning her, feeding her. She's one pampered bee and with none of that she just dies.
Even if the Queen wouldn't die in isolation, they are absolute hive insects. Isolation would put her in the most stressful and devastating situation.
What would you prefer? Living all your life in an isolation cell 24/7 or dying quickly? And now add the hive mentality to that and you know why keeping a single bee as a pet is nothing but torture to it.
Good job! I haven't had to pinch/kill a queen yet but I'm sure it is a matter of time. Both of my hives are doing really well. I have already done one harvest from the flow hive and will probably do another one this weekend. We are in the middle of our biggest honey flow of the year so they are bringing it in fast.
Gapeys Grub I find things like this so fascinating!
Gapey.. how are yours going a year later? Im wanting to start.. ive watched so many videos im confused so bad
I had to kill a drone layer. She had given me 2 years of productivity... :(
Just wondering where did you get your vented jacket, I really like the hat and veil, thanks
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Vino Farm thanks
I smoked about an hour ago and now I'm here... pls help
Jerry same
My life
Me too haha
I'm here and I don't smoke...I think I need more help than you did 😂😂😂
I dont know why i keep on watching videos like this, I find it satisfying and interesting.
I would stop feeding the strong hive and put a box of drawn comb on top then a queen excluder then your flow hive. This will give the bees time to make a super or 2 of honey for them and with luck fill your flow frames. I like the bees to have 3 brood boxes so there is no worry about having enough stores for the winter. I'm in PA and I've seen all types of winters and how they affect bees.
larry tornetta I'm all out of drawn comb. I have lots of frames. I'm trying to get the bees to draw some frames for me so that's why I'm feeding. I thought about a third brood box, but I'm not sure Russians would go for that. I've been reading that they are more conservative with their resources and expansion. If they have two solid brood boxes before July, I'm thinking they're going to be OK for the fall. I'm still experimenting. This is my first time with Russians and just the start of my second season. I'm curious to see what the requeened hive will do with an actual laying queen. If they explode like the other hive, maybe I can try a third brood box over there. I don't know anyone with three brood boxes in this area. Two is most common. Thanks for watching.
larry tornetta yaIm new bee keeper I do it in uk at my home and I do it at turkey on holiday :)
Vino Farm can you try A Turkish bee hive there bees are massive
larry tornetta flow hives are not that easy to do.
I wish every queen ant, bee (you like jazz) wore a little crown how awesome would that be
How come there are so many capped brood if she hasn't been laying for 5 weeks?
That man made coup d'etat
Because she didn't feel safe. Ms. Bee, I hope to sit with you in the next life. You deserved better.
Bodhisattva
It's sad, but it had to happen :/
Great and informative video. But why do you strap your hives down?
Thanks for all the info.
kingfish990 Wind. Back when this was filmed, the wind would flip lids off and tip hives. Now that our hedge has grown in I just put a cinder block on top.
@@vinofarm Thanks!
"There's nothing graphic in this video,..." Thanks for that, i was a little afraid.
Thanks for all the explanation, you have very interesting Videos - Keep it up!
Interesting video. Love hearing your commentary. It was very sad, but its exciting to see all action and activity.
How does a queen become a queen?
SamiraXox If you put that question in the RUclips search box, there are good videos about it.
Maybe she was born with it.. Or maybe it was maybelline😳
Do the bees that were still on the frame from the strong hive fly back to their hive when you put them in the week hive?
Just a stupid question. Why not releasing the old Queen far away in the wild? Isn't she supposed to found a colony on her own?
Not a stupid question. This is exactly what the old queen did. Queens live about 5 years. She swarmed for the last time to form this colony to die. Since she is out of eggs this colony was dead. Once the workers were too old to gather pollen, they nurse (make nectar, wax and honey and feed larvae and queen). No new larvae so end of the life cycle and dead hive. The new queen was grabbed after her mating flight (before her first swarm) so she could be introduced to a new hive. This will be considered her first hive.
If you watch the video again you will see the "left hive" making queen cells (with drone cells) and lots of brood. There can only be one Queen. Once the new queens hatch (probably not at the same time), mates with the drones (who die after mating) and comes back, the established (old) queen will take a portion of the workers and swarm away, she will try to keep doing this every year. (Thus pro-creating hives) In some cases, with multiple queen confusion (and other reasons), all the queens leave. This is called absconding.
Sometimes you need to help the colony
winged_ cat_45 👍
Don't they sting? Sorry if this question looks dumb, but I really want to know.
Good stuff ,Killer Queen . Amazing song and from now on this shall be you. He he . Bee joke
bite za dusto
She had a sheer heart attack!! And yes, She bit the dust but don't stop them now!
Thank you for covering this subject. It is obvious that you care about your business and the well-being of your bees.
wtf when did i get interested about bees?
what are you useing to keep the grass out of your bee yard ?
The area is covered in several inches of stone dust/crushed gravel. I still hand weed the stuff that pokes up around the edges.
I think if I got a chance to being a beekeeper would be kinda awesome
The social structure of bees is fascinating. Thanks for the video.
Ah see now I must be the sadistic son of a b*tch cause I really wanted to watch you end her reign... But no, did it off camera, barely even seen a body. If this was a t.v. show I wouldn't even be convinced she was dead.
Ronald Huffington yep, totally pulled an Osama , the bitch is probably sharing a cabana with him sippin Mia tais, both complaining how they used to have hundreds of servants and now they have to wait 2 min for a refill
Equabolt why did i had a feeling that thats what you was going to say before reading it
Equabolt true Xd
Was that a queen cup I saw on the frame from Hive Right? The one the false Queen was on. It was at the bottom of the frame as you were putting it back in.
The Russian bees usually have a dozen or more queen cups all over the hive. They usually are empty. It's a Russian bee thing.
I don't know but I feel like the part at 10:19 is very cool/badass.
Hi thanks for your video, why did you need to secure the be hive with the green belt?
What if it's not the Queen's fault, and there is a varroa mite infestation?
There was no egg laying or new brood for 5 weeks. This queen had a problem. If there was some kind of external factor preventing her from laying, then why did the new queen fill the hive with eggs within a week of being introduced? If there was some kind of varroa problem, it didn't stop the new queen. All evidence points to a problem queen. When she was changed, the hive took off.
Do the bees sting you often when you do this? Did they sting you when you first started?
I think some dislike was from showing the kill. This is natural to do, maybe they wasn't ready for it hahaha
Oh, spare me, you hypocrite. Take your self together.
But he didn't?
@er asdef she was going to die anyway, and kill off the colony as well. If he didn't take her far enough away she would come back and kill the other queen or die while TRYING to kill the new queen. If he took her far enough away she would either die because she wouldn't know what to do with herself and die slowly and lonely or by being eaten. If she found a new hive in the wild, she would fight that hive's old queen and have a similar outcome to if she came back to her hive. If she won, that wild colony would die off. Bees are emotionally attached to their hives so even if she found a new hive there is no guarantee that she would even want to take it over. So yes, while it was a human who ended her life...it was the most humane thing to do for the queen while trying to help the colony survive and it was natural. If you would actually read the info that the uploader posts you might have understood that. 💁 You could have at least looked or skimmed to see IF he gave additional info, which he did.
@@DrAskildsen take your self together ??
Learn proper grammar
what kind of wedding ring are you wearing? I always take mine off. Afraid of my hand swelling up and having to get the ring cut off.
MichaelJRicke Silicone. I made a couple videos about it. ruclips.net/video/kwvRqWaFxbM/видео.html
6:05 "I'm gonna take her out, and then I'm gonna take her out" - Vino Farm 2018
I saw you put the new brood along with some of the bees into the new hive. The old bees easily accept the new brood cells with no problem? What about the new bees that were on the new frame? Will they be accepted?
A few straggler nurse bees on a frame of brood will assimilate fine. What bees don't like are foragers walking in the front door stealing resources. Even a wayward "foreign" bee with a mouthful of nectar will be accepted even if it's not from the colony. Bees just want everyone in the hive working toward the health of the hive.
This guy pulled a reverse Cersei.
I've was following you from the start but kind of lost track around spring when you lost a lot of stock...if I remember correctly. I see you have gotten comfortable enough to ditch the gloves! Cool. In the spring I had swarm issues and ended up with over 20 capped queens. I thought I was doing good staying on it. Long story short, I had to scrape over a dozen queen cells out and they all were ready to hatch. So I had a jar with a lot of queens that were all alive. As I was scraping them, they were hatching! It was so hard killing them! I know how you felt. But now my hives are all doing very well. I now have 3 that were all splits from original. I'm going to try and get caught up with you, but work has been crazy and so has life. BTW I've been keeping for just under a year. Thanks for the effort you have put in to your videos. FL BIll
Why not graphic? I came here for bloooooooood! Lol
i lolled
SAME Xd (im violent af lol)
Bees don’t have visible blood. Have you ever killed an ant?
tired of me yet? Yes and i did kill a bee before and well your right also i can see ant blood it looks like bogers and for some reason a fly have red blood
Lol samee
You did the right thing. Sad to see the old queen go, but this saved a lot of bee lives. A thriving hive is a happy one.
I'm gonna take her out then I'm gonna take her out. Somehow this sounds so funny to me.
i stumbled onto this video randomly. I've never had any interest in bee keeping but this video was very entertaining and actually really interesting. the whole queen killing was funny. i hope your business is going strong!
Hey neighbor. Ashburnham here again. We had to requeen last night. It was a split second decision, and you wouldn't believe the story if I told it to you. Now comes the waiting to see if they accept her. I swear I haven't slept since May. Nothing easy about it, but you did the right thing.
Sybil Sinclair I just opened mine up after a week. She's out and alive. But now there's a capped queen cell in the hive. Oh boy.
You can always put a queen cage/protector over it to preserve it.
Wow! We have similar luck. Is the queen cell on the brood frame you added?
We got 2 nucs, 1st of May. Joy and Jasmine. Joy drew out her frames in a little over a week (faster than we were expecting). We added a 2nd brood box. Two weeks later, they had drawn out 2 frames up top, with some supersedure cells in the centers, including a fully capped one. Joy had a beautiful brood pattern. She swarmed 4 days after we found the cells, June 8th. 100' up into a pine tree. She left 5 frames of brood, a frame of capped honey, and 6 queen cells at various stages. Since we found a capped queen on the 3rd, we were assuming she'd hatch somewhere around the 11th. 5 days for shell to harden. Mating flights somewhere around the 16th (it rained for a few days). On the 21st, we found a queen, dead, outside of our weak hive-Jasmine. Huge, beautiful queen.
Jasmine had the spotty brood pattern. Never saw any eggs. And over the next few weeks, DWV, chewed through brood, workers pulling out larvae and pupae daily, bees crawling on the ground in front of the hive. We are treating for all of it, but the brood pattern remained spotty. Requested a State inspection.
We find the dead queen. Inspect Jasmine, and see her almost immediately. Inspect Joy: no eggs, no larvae, can't see a queen. Videoed every frame and watched it in slo-mo for hours - did not see a queen. Ordered a new one. Installed her last Saturday. She's in a plastic cage w/o attendants, and had marshmallows capping her in. She was still in there on Thursday - not a good sign.
KW from the State came on Friday. Says Joy must be queenright. Sure enough, open up the hive and there's one frame, 1/3 full of freshly laid eggs. He says she must have started laying in the past day or two. The queen we bought was still in her cage.
Open up Jasmine, he says "heavy mite damage and you have a queen who isn't laying." My husband pulled out Jasmine, smushed her, we duct-taped the end of new queens cage (per the inspector's instructions and installed her immediately). Yesterday, we removed the duct tape, added fondant, and put her back in there, bu they were balling her. I sprayed the bees and frames w/sugar water, and a mix of lemongrass/spearmint. And now, we wait..... My husband picked up some hardware cloth this morning, and we may try the cage thing.
Sybil Sinclair Holy crap. Sounds like you're getting an education. That is one hell of a story. Are you making videos of this???
I took a class at Monty Tech prior to starting this, but this has been our Crash Course! Recording everything, but on our IPhones. I plan to edit it someday. The swarm was amazing. Our hives are 200' from our house, and I could hear them from inside! Not what we wanted to happen, but incredible none-the-less. Caught the virgin piping. She may or may not still be alive....
Love your videos, though. They make this all less surreal. We're sorry you have to solve this one, but am looking forward to seeing the results! We're rooting for you all!
I have stumbled upon the most wholesome corner of RUclips! I love watching bee keeping!
C'mon people. Most of you who watched this video eat meat and therefore support the slaughter of animals, so one little queen bee isn't too much death and carnage.
Great video, just noted you are working the same procedure "checkerboard" as I do with with all my hives and best results. Great work, good luck.
Bro it's okay I'm with you #NewQueenFTW
So what if she didnt lay eggs. When my queens dont lay eggs i let them go then put the new queen it
kaylee watson That doesn't sound like something a beekeeper would say.
The queen is dead. Long live the queen! Nice burial.
I have no idea what im doing here but, curiosity question, when you put a panel from a different colony in there, wont those bees attack the bees in the new panel? o.O
Imagine being killed for being infertile 😩poor gal!
Well it has to be done. That would kill off the whole hive, even in the wild it's death to all. Least here something can be done.
Sometimes you have to sacrifice the few to save the many
Bee logic isn't human logic bih
If you were born to only have babies and everything else was provided for you and you were pampered beyond your senses, you would be killed if you can’t breed.
It's like boy calves in the dairy industry. Male chicks in the egg industry.... At least with bees it's not 50% of babies. :)
Great video! Very informative. I have a question though, when you put the frame from the strong hive in to the weak hive, what happened to the bees that went with it? Would their new hivemates kill the intruders, would they fly back to the strong hive or just assimilate in to their new hive?
Bees will always accept brood and young nurse bees.
Pfft people saying he's good with bees , just wait untill i get my belt xD
Bee keeping seems peaceful work. I like it. Peaceful and terrifying at the same time. Love the videos man thanks for making them!
+cory cuculis The scary part is the feeling of responsibility toward the hive... the constant fear that I'm going to do something stupid and destroy the colony. The bees aren't scary. They have jobs to do and will only mess with you if you mess with them. Be gentle and they ignore you.
is it just me who wanted to see the queen bee brutally murdered?
Do you have just small holes in your feeding buckets??
I explained my buckets here: ruclips.net/video/lEAQLPgWGgE/видео.html
The Queen is Dead...Long Live the Queen!
This guy is so brave. I can’t even be near a bee without internally freaking out.
The Queen is dead! Long live the Queen!!
Thankyou im not sure why ive watched so many bee hive videos past couple of days but its really interesting.
Thank you as a found a a few things through this video. I never knew what why the queen was in a little box & how she got out.
Is it possible you could make a video for us new people totally clueless to it, like all the terminology and what its means etc.
Brood? Why different things on different planks & what they are for etc.
Thankyou
3:04 Ethan Bradberry
I would understand the straps if bees were being transported. Since they are not being transported, why the straps. Are you concerned they will topple over?
So you killed my wife?
How can you tell which bee is the queen? Its hard for me to tell through the screen so I'm wondering what she looks like in person.
Oh is it bc she is marked yellow? Is every queen marked with yellow?
I’m gonna take her out, then I’m gonna take her out😵
Hi: I just subscribed . Question for someone that is "beestupid!" When you moved the brood frame into the week hive, how did you know that there was not a queen on that frame? and what would of happened if there was? Thanks you I and I enjoy the videos .
I edited it out, but I did a thorough scan of the frame before I shook the bees off. You don't want to shake your queen around and definitely don't want to put two queens in a box. They will either be killed by the guard bees or fight each other to the death.
I was expecting you to start crying when you killed the queen. I'm shocked you didn't.
The decision to do it was tough. It took me all afternoon to get ready for it. The killing could have been smoother. I did feel bad, but it wasn't a tearful moment.
I like how much remorse you show for the old queen Honestly it shows alot about you I will be subscribing for sure Hope to see more Bee videos!
I hit the bell I want notifications!!!
There's 100 other bee videos already up here. Thanks for watching.
Lol I didnt even notice this was a old video I have some liking to do!!!