Hey guys. So, Part 3 got removed as you probably noticed. Unfortunately I don't know which clip(s) caused it to be taken down and I don't want to risk reuploading it so here are the scenes that originally made that part: In Season 8 Episode 21 Romeward Bound, Barney spends most of the episode trying to see the body of his wedding planner. He envies Marshall who could get away with telling her to take off her coat because he "has no stink", implying that Barney DOES have stink. He also says that Marshall wants to spend the rest of his life with Lily and only Lily, but won't admit the same for himself and Robin. Later, Barney accused Ted of claiming to know Robin better than he does. However, Ted's words to Barney are confirmed in Season 8 Episode 23 Something Old where it is Ted, not Barney, who recognises that Robin needs help. After going to help Robin, she tells Ted that she's doubting whether she or Barney are ready for marriage. As it is later revealed, neither Robin nor Barney were really ready for marriage at this point in time. In Season 8 Episode 24, Ted chooses to move to Chicago since it is the only way he feels he can move on from Robin. Therefore, Ted's eventual decision to stay in New York for a girl he had JUST MET is proof that Ted had finally moved on from Robin. It is later revealed that Robin chose to move to Japan for the exact same reason that Ted almost moved to Chicago, i.e. that she was still in love with Ted. This proves that Robin never fully moved on from Ted after their breakup. It is also interesting that although at this point in time, Robin had been saying that she was not ready for marriage, part of her still wished it was her marrying Ted, not Stella.
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Thanks Dude. You made my day. I don't remeber that i thougt Robin wants to move to Japan because of her job. But i did remember that she speak with Ted about his wedding with Stella. He should not marry her. Because she don't want to lose him for a posiblity. Yeah maybe Ego too.But she was right Stella dis not deserve him! Thx i was always a Ted and Robin shipper. I could never understand that Robin and Barney thing. Yeah there had much in common but i liked Barney with Quinn much better. After all when Ted would ended still with the Mother i think i would be okay know with that. But the loved her all those Years.I ask me was Tracy never jealouse about there realtionship?? Did Ted ever tell her this? Because Victoria wants that he ends the friendship with Robin.
@@lanabeniko5147 I'm thinking Tracy probably wasn't jealous like Victoria since Victoria and Ted's relationship was first ended because of Robin. Ted was fully invested in Tracy so I'm sure she was never jealous of his relationship with him.
that scene... "what mother is gonna miss her daughter's wedding?"... Josh Radnor did SUCH a fenominal job at his acting there... it just hurts to watch... it's so realistic and strong.
It's exactly like giving him the permission to move on! I so agree! But buddy , she asked him to MOVE FORTH! And NOT back to the Robin goddamn Scherbatsky!
@@brandismith3911 I kind of see it like this: after a long time of telling the story of how he met tracy he finally understands what tracy had said to him and then goes on to make a new story, with someone from the past yes, but a new story.
@Areti 22 I feel like it makes sense for Ted to be with Robin because after losing Tracy he can never again develop a strong romantic relationship with another woman. He can only go back to an old love that existed before Tracy because (for him) no other woman after Tracy can ever exist. It's only in an old love that he can find a meaningful connection, not the level that he had with Tracy because no one can ever replace the mother of his children; but an old love that is comfortable and familiar. Tracy is his soulmate, the mother of his children and no one, not even Robin, can replace or comes close to what he and Tracy had. Ted knows that.
I feel like it makes sense for Ted to be with Robin because after losing Tracy he can never again develop a strong romantic relationship with another woman. He can only go back to an old love that existed before Tracy because (for him) no other woman after Tracy can ever exist. It's only in an old love that he can find a meaningful connection, not the level that he had with Tracy because no one can ever replace the mother of his children; but an old love that is comfortable and familiar. Tracy is his soulmate, the mother of his children and no one, not even Robin, can replace or comes close to what he and Tracy had. Ted knows that.
I can understand where you're coming from, but the problem isn't the fact that Ted continues to love Robin. The problem is that Robin riciprocated those feelings depsite nine seasons worth of content that proved while they didn't fit together. Robin still doesn't want kids, being with Ted means she'll have to be the step-mum to his two children. Robin still doesn't want commitment. Barney and Robin's divorce essentially cements this into place, while Ted still longs for that emotional, romantic bond he found with Tracy. Robin wants to pursue her career, being with Ted again would only anchor her down from doing so, she has no reason to fall back into his arms other than for the sake of nostalga after he brought the blue french horn to her window again (Which, I'll admit, was cute and endearing of Ted) bit that alone should not have been enough. Robin and Ted just don't fit. A more satisfying version of the same ending would be for Barney and Robin to realise they still can't commit and get their divorce like the canon. Then, after Ted finishes telling his story, he professes his love for Robin one last time and she actually rejects him instead. Sure, it'd be bittersweet and the crowd would probably still hate it, but at least it would make more sense than what we ended up with.
I disagree about Ted and Robin not fitting, as said before in the series they need chemistry and timing. Ted and Robin got exactly what they wanted in life. Ted married his soul mate, had two beautiful children, and Robin got the career she always wanted. Now they want to see what will happen after they achieved their dreams. I don’t see Ted looking for the bond he had with Tracy in someone else (including Robin) and I don’t see Robin trying to be a step mom to the children, she will always be cool aunt Robin and help them if they need her, like all aunts do. Will they work out, I have no idea. I don’t see this as happily ever after for them. I see it more as two people looking for companionship now that life has taken them on a different journey than they ever expected. Because now Ted isn’t looking for the one and Robin established her career -they now have a chance to finally be their truest selves together. Maybe it will work out or maybe it won’t, but they have far better odds in working out than they did when they first met.
@@just_a_morningstarI’d say the real issue is that so many people want to view the HIMYM ending as Happily-Ever-After, when it is actually saying Here-We-Go-Again. We do have nine years worth of stories showing that Ted and Robin aren’t the best match. We also have nine years worth of stories that show they never stopped having feelings for each other. There’s a good chance that their latest try will fail again, even if the past obstacles to their relationship are no longer what they once were. But there’s also a chance it might work, and both are ready to try again.
@@just_a_morningstar did you forget some episodes in season 8 and 9 where robin becames way more open into kids and Ted literally saying that Robin is the the person that most loved marvin and the other kids marshal and lily had? it's literally said that robin with age became way more open to kids. and robin does want commitment, she was the one pushing more to marry barney. robin and barney divorced happened because she was travelling the world and barnie didn't want to just travel and wanted to continue partying. in 2030 when the last scenes are happening Robin says that she has traveled around the world like she always has dreamed of and she has gotten to a point in her career that she wanted so she is ready to settle down now. We are not shown what barnie is doing but it is said that he is taking care of his daughter but we can assume he still likes the "party" life style. I don't think you watched with any attention what happend in the last 3 episodes.
Also, Barney made plenty of sacrifices. He moved around with Robin just to be with her, yet as always Robin put her career in front of anything, including her husband.
It was suppose to be like "strong woman doesnt need to be stuck with a man" but just felt like shes always lonely because no one can stand her being away all the time... not even her friends
Letícia Guelere And Ted could only be with her in the end because another woman gave him already what he always wanted, children and family etc. It probably would have been the same between Robin and Ted in the end as in the beginning, if Ted hadnt got all those things in the meantime
The thing the sucked the most at the end robin choise job after her husband but choise don after what the fuck... Its sucks how the go the End... And look tracy was used that ted could get kids...
There’s no justifying the ending the entire last season was centered around Barney and robins wedding just for them to be divorced in the final episode
The thing is the story of ted has been finished with the 8th season, so the 9th is a big strech of the originally planned final episodes. I don‘t know why are people so mad with the ending it‘s brilliant written and smart. The bummer for people might just be, that this has never been a story about finding the one and only. It‘s a story about how love defines our lifes.
gebakken aarshaar yeah I agree, the ending was good but they timed it wrong. If you watch the alternative ending, I like it more just because it was timed better.
Katerina Papaspiropoulos yeah but the alternative ending didn’t follow the series. The whole thing was that life always threw you obstacles and overcoming them. A normal happy ending was never in the cards for the show.
Two things. 1) Ted going back to Robin 2) Robin and Barney getting a divorce. Like why spend the entire season for them to be together and end it with a divorce?
@@syedrahim6199 I don't know why they kept pushing Robin and Barney together, much less have them get married. They had zero chemistry and things hadn't changed between the time they ended their first relationship and when they got married. The problems they had the in first relationship carried over into their marriage.
I wouldn't have such a problem with the ending if they at least would've given the ending as much love as they gave the rest of their show... but that "last hour of the show changing everything" ending just feels so forced, it may have been foreshadowed and maybe it would've been the perfect ending but even if, they should've put more love into it... it feels like the writing part of the set wanted it to happen but the directors part just put it out to make the writers happy
it isn't the lack of love, but the lack of time. the ending isn't bad, but it's too fast. while this represents life (which is a goal of the series), it makes an issue from a serie/story perspective. they should have spend more time in a good build-up for the ending and maybe even seperate the ending into multiple episodes.
I don't agree that this justifies anything. The ending that aired was written and filmed years in advance, when they thought they were going to end after season two which was their original contract. When they got picked up for more episodes, they extended the story farther then anticipated and evolved the characters more then they originally planned. None of these characters where the same people they would've been had the show ended in season two and the relationships built up in the show meant something to fans. Watching Barney evolve and change for Robin watching ted learn to let go AND introducing the mom when they originally weren't going to, changed how we perceived the main characters and their connection to one another. To develop all of this new story and build on something so much, only to sweep it all under the rug and go back to "ted and robin destined to end up together" it felt cheap, it felt lazy and it felt like they were playing it safe with this ending. I liked the mom, I think a lot of long term fans liked the mom and I feel like most people were done with the "will they won't they" of Ted and Robin. They no longer felt like the destined couple that we wanted at first and at least for me it felt too unrealistic to see them in that last scene, it just wasn't believable anymore
Couldn't have said it better myself. But just saying, Victoria was added to the show to be the mom had the show been canceled. It was their failsafe. I was never a fan of Ted and Robin. Hated the ending because they essentially threw out everything Ted went through to mature and get over Robin.
Ugh, there’s no way they thought the show was gonna end in s2 and just because Ted ended up with Robin doesn’t take anything away from Ted and Tracy. As the ending says, the entire story was getting the kids to understand that he loved their mom but after so many years of her gone it was time to move on and the entire 9 years of the show justifies that. Ted and Tracy were perfect. Ted and Robin were good but they’ll never be Ted and Tracy and no one ever tried to say that.
@@Tomweldonsays according to Carter Bays, one of the creators of the show, Victoria was going to be the mother if the show was going to be canceled after its first season. Yeah they filmed Ted and Robin ending up together 8 years before the ending, but that was just to ensure the kids didn't look too grown up when the show ended.
Seinfeld, HIMYM and Breaking Bad.. 3 of the best TV shows of all-time and he was on all of them. Heck, even Malcom in the Middle and Sneaky Pete. He does nothing but high quality.
This seems more like an interpretation than a direct translation of the scenes meanings. All the character development in the last 2 seasons was pretty much wasted by the last 2 episodes.
@@Tomweldonsays Yes. It's completely ridiculous to say it's just an interpretation of the scenes when the ending of the show clearly follows said INTERPRETATION. This video is right about the show. 100 %. But a whole lot of people still can't accept that. I guess it's not easy to admit that they have watched this show for 9 long seasons and STILL didn't get the point of it.
NO IT WASNT! Barney actually matured and changed, even if it isnt for his wife, he changed! That's all I wanted while watching the finale and that's what I got! Nothing was wasted
If you are explaining a scene you are giving your interpretation, so you saying that the characters development was wasted it’s yours. If you don’t consider his interpretation of the show finale as an explanation is because you aren’t open to change your mind about it.
I've rewatched this series several times to give the ending a better understand and justification for Ted's actions. To my dismay I still never accepted the ending. The foreshadowing is all there but if there was no point to the mother, then there shouldn't have been so much foreshadowing to which Ted would end up with Tracy and finding his true love. We see this chemistry between Robin and Ted and we see the pros and the cons. We see that their relationship was flawed it never was meant to be. Again the writers and producers did not anticipate the audience to develop an attachment to characters and their development. Barney gets devolved back to playboy when the whole show builds his character to throw that lifestyle away as he too finds love that he never anticipated. They try fixing his character again last second by giving him a daughter but it just felt forced. Robin devolves back to herself and looks at Ted in jealousy as he finally found true happiness with someone who understands Ted in a fundamental level. Plus Ted telling the story to his kids is just a narrative device to allow the narrator to speak to the audience. That reason is why I like the fact in the last episode Ted looks directly in front of the camera (as to his kids but actually to the audience), "And that, is How I Met Your Mother." The writers probably thought that it would work subverting people's expectations as "why would the writers use the same ending they conceived several seasons ago? It's not practical." and by doing exactly that people would be in for a big surprise that Ted ends up with Robin. It's almost as bad as Game of Thrones as the D&D kept wanting to subvert people's expectations and pulled their worst card too around their last season. And I know people also say "oh but there was foreshadowing that Daenerys was gonna be the Mad Queen." The amount of foreshadowing is less in contrast to the overall change in narrative and development. I was definitely okay with Tracy dying it's just the fact that they stuck with Robin and Ted is what irks me. That's my thoughts and two cents though y'all can let me know what you think as well if you'd like.
You nailed it. Its as if nostalgia took over and they just wanted the story and characters to “come full circle”. But it felt forced as you said, you basically brought everyone back to where they started. Which was young and immature
You explained it perfectly! And I love the reference to GOT, because they screwed it up just as much, and fans reacted equally. It's a shame when they butcher a good show like this.
The last couple episodes of himym was basically a slap in the face for all the loyal fans who stuck with the show for 9 whole seasons...your explanation was great, I agree completely.
Higher than Barney and Robin, of course. But not even close to Zoey and Victoria. And please don't even think about comparing Robin with Tracy, because Tracy's chemistry with Ted was on a whole other level.
@David Stephens ok I'll give you a point for that but we can't discuss that Ted had to be with Tracy, no other girl was that nice to him, she is the woman every man would like to find.
That’s the problem. The writers wrote those moments to justify an ending that should ve never been the ending. Because it wasn’t natural. They forced it upon the show, simply because that’s what they planned back in season 2.
I disagree. To me, the whole series is consistent with the ending. The scenes in this video are just some of the key scenes that highlight where the story was REALLY going from the beginning. The whole series had virtually NOTHING to do with the mother. It was all about Ted's search for love which, as it turns out, began and ended with Robin. Also, the ending perfectly justifies why Ted told the story the way he did. If he really wanted to tell the story about how he met the kid's mother, he would have spend more time talking about the mother than he did the rest of the gang. And yet Ted went on for hours telling stories about Robin, Barney, Lily and Marshall that had literally NOTHING to do with Ted's search for love, let alone the mother. This is because although Ted may have INITIALLY intended to tell the story of how he met the kid's mother, it ultimately became an opportunity for Ted to revisit his past. And through revisiting his past before meeting the Mother, he finally realised that there was a life to be lived beyond his dead wife and was finally able to move on from his wife and admit his resurfaced feelings for Robin.
Ben Dowson You are right. This show wasn’t about his mom. But as you said, it wasn’t only about his love to Robin either. In fact, if it wasn’t for the last season where they toned down a bit, the show wanted you to root for Robin and Barney.
@@bendowson3124 the story is supposed to be about Ted's search for true love, and in order for him to explain that to his kids he had to explain how he got there in the first place. That's why he spends so much time talking about the gang. You're saying they planned for him to end up with Robin all along, yet Victoria was introduced into the show because had the show been canceled she was going to be Ted's "true love." The ending was crap and they threw years of storytelling out the window, undermining everything that the 5 of them went through.
@@OmegaLightning I know that Ted's intention was to tell how his eight year journey from 2005 to 2013 led him to the Mother. However, way too many storylines had NOTHING to do with the Mother. For example, did he really have to tell the story of how him and Barney got into a fight? Did he really have to tell the story of the three-way? Did he really have to talk about Robin's past as a Canadian pop star? None of those stories are at all relevant to Ted's search for love. If it weren't for the ending, the only justification for those irrelevant storylines would be "because it's a sitcom". And yes, for those who watched the series from the beginning, that justification may have been enough, but I personally love the fact that they perfectly justified why Ted told the story the way he did.
@@bendowson3124 that's very true it could be that it was to justify it all... Or you could look at those as "filler." If Ted only told his story it would have been that long of a series lol
@@derrickbird9676 disagree. there is such a thing is "too perfect", which I'd argue their marriage was. there were no sign of internal struggles, no sign of fights. nothing. nothing that will occasionally remind them why they chose for eachother and why they love eachother. they just love eachother because that's all they've been doing. this is also why I'd argue Ted + Robin is a better match; yeah sure, their personalities don't match as well. but it gives them struggles. it gives them issues to overcome together. to learn more from eachother and to relove eachother.
When ted said he lobed robin the 8th season, it was so out of the blue. After years of them being normal friends, suddenly it made it seem lile ted and robin had been in an akward place ever sincs they broke up. It was all so rushed, one day they are normal friends, then suddenly ted cant bare to be just friends, and has to move to Chicago to get away from her. It had been established so many times ted and robin dont work, he wanted a commitment, she didn't. Tracy was the perfect woman for ted. Barney was the perfect man for robin. Dont even get me started on how they completely obliterated the several year long character development of barney in 10 minutes. I could go on...
I recently re-watched the show for the first time after it ended. The ending is still a huge slap in the face. And I hate it for so many reasons. - Barney and Roben divorce. They can't just have an entire season about their wedding and them working on their problem and make it work to just make them divorce the next episode. - Barney character regression making him making went back to his old ways. It just hurt to see it like this. - how little we see of Tracy. I got watching this show because I wanted to see the mother. But she is dead. Though I can to a certain way can accept those 3 points above. I will never ever accept that Ted and Robin ending up together. Ted and his obsession with Robin and inability to let go was so annoying it lasted for 3 seasons. (Though the fact he was obsessed with her and finally let go on her wedding day. He wouldn't have met Tracy ... I would love this) but to make it the ending ... guhh And the fact they made Robin successful in her career but lonely and mesrible like she need a man to be happy and can't be around her friends if she is not with either Ted or Barney, is like saying she can't have both (as a female it feels like an insult). I wish they made her successful and happy, it has dream. Robin and Ted ending up together after seasons of showing us how they are not compatible and can not work together is a betrayal. This ending a mere wish fulfillment for Ted. And I hate it. I love this show but it has the worst ending I ever seen and it makes me hurt, sad, angery every time I watch it. I will always hate for making me feel like this, ending shouldn't make me feel like this.
I agree that the ending could have been told a lot better. This video is targeted at those who hate the ending regardless of how it could have been told.
@@bendowson3124 But that's the thing though. Foreshadowing =/= development. It's what I always tell people. Yes it's nice and all that they foreshadowed these things, but they didn't BUILD up to it. Not really. The last two seasons were spent building up to and covering Robin and Barney's wedding. And no it wasn't perfect or without any hinges and Barney needed to grow A LOT just to get that that point (which he DID), but that's what they were building and developing. Not their divorce. Not Ted and Robin's relationship after YEARS of telling us that they'd moved on. It's also frankly disheartening to watch Barney's character development after 9 seasons completely unravel in one episode. At the time he got married to Robin he was already ready to move on from all his bachelor womanizing ways, he'd resolved his issues with his family and he'd moved on from his past breakups (that was the point of Quinn at his Bachelor party). But for all that to be unraveled in the final minutes of the series is disheartening.
I always said the Barney and Robin wedding storyline should have been over by the Christmas break at the latest. With the events of the finale, and then some allowed more room to explore in the back half the season. I always knew the mother was dead, and that Robin was endgame. It's sad to see so many people didn't understand that. Barney's true romantic love IMHO was Nora. But he messed that up. Mostly because the writers backed themselves into a corner in episode 2 that it was Robin, who would help Ted find her. And yes they did give themselves an out with Victoria being the mother if the show was canceled early into it's run. Which I am thankful for, most writers never do that. And even some that do, aren't allowed to wrap it up by the networks. First season Ted and Victoria could have made it last. Before the infidelity with Robin. But there was no chance it would have after that happened. And deep down they both knew it. Even though they didn't want to admit it themselves, or each other.
@@shadowwolf9909 I alway knew that too. I was really happy about it. The dirctor sad they never really had there timing. I Yeason 7 Robin said if you have cemestry you only need 1 thing timing. And that is what they never really had after all those Years ago. Exept from the end.
This is a perfect example of Confirmation Bias 🤦🏼♂️. I could probably go back through the show and do the exact same thing but reasons why it wasn't foreshadowed. Way more than half of these 'justifications' were unintentional.
I’m sorry but if there was anything this show was good at it was foreshadowing. There was the countdown to marshals dads death starting from 50, Barneys kid,Tracy’s death. Not to mention all the call backs and inside jokes from the slap bet to the foreign cab/limo driver. (Can’t remember his name) they knew what they were doing and they knew what ending they wanted. Take away the last 2 episodes and replace them with a new season and this show has one of the best ending ever. They ran out of time which is actually the most ironic thing I could think of for HIMYM.
@@anthonyturner6399 Tbf having things contained in one episode (the countdown), or calling back to something previous is not prone to confirmation bias like foreshadowing. And far easier to plan than years worth of foreshadowing.
@@anthonyturner6399 Tbf having things contained in one episode (the countdown), or calling back to something previous is not prone to confirmation bias like foreshadowing. And far easier to plan than years worth of foreshadowing.
If y’all think foreshadowing = a good ending. You guys probably liked Game of Thrones season 8. Foreshadowing the ending doesn’t mean it’s a good ending, if the ending makes 0 sense then it’s a bad ending.
I think ppl were bummed out about the ending was because we fell in love with tracy's (the mother) character. She was so good at portraying the mother that even tho robin and ted were bound to end up together... if you've watched himym religiously like i have and analyzed everything, the whole series was dedicated to robin. Even tho ted was reminiscing how he met tracy, he kept coming back to "being in love with robin" "caring for robin" "being there for robin". The ending made sense, it did. But it sucks bc tracy and ted should've been endgame as well as barney and robin but i think both ted and robin needed to have the thing they wanted the most (ted with having the wofe and kids thing and robin with being an international reporter who traveled a lot) before they come back to one another. I think that was the point.
The ending makes sense, the problem was it was bad timing for a ending, and killing off Tracy seemed stupid. The show is called “how I met ur mother.” Yet you don’t meet the mother till like season 7. The ending was poorly planned, but it made sense.
A N G E L A I agree with the robin part but the show also emphasized about being true to yourself and waiting for the right time for things. Even then teds was all about taking that great leap and hoping for the best and he continued that even after the mother died. Barney staying with her robin for life was never going to be a thing. It could work but they were both ambitious and one always put himself first while the other out her job first. It would contradict him as a person if he changed and him loving his daughter, which was legit part of him in a way, was him still being true to himself. Out of everybody I honestly loved Barney’s ending/future out of everybody in the show. For it to end that way he had to break up with robin
I don't think any timing is perfect for Ted and Robin to get back together because they are incompatible. And I know Barney isn't the marriage type of guy, but after all the efforts he went through to change I was absolutely sure his marriage with Robin would be a successful one. The saddened announcement of their divorce completely undid all those changes and ruined his happiness since his backstory that changed him forever restarted all over again😔😭
Disappointment is an understatement what I felt while watchin the last episode. I felt like I was betrayed. Death is part of our lifes, but Tracy's death was absolutely futile and simply bad writing. I loved that show so much. I'll always be mad about this. Also Ted and Robin are a awful couple. Don't get me wrong, I love her as a character, but her and relationships... Bruh.
You missed that when Robin and Barney get married Ted says something like ‘And their marriage was legendary’ and that’s a foreshadowing because in an other episode (or maybe the same episode, sorry I don’t remember which) Robin says that legendary means fake.
everything that happened between ted and robin, the good, the bad, the perfect, fate and all, has been forgotten when we met and fell in love with tracy. it's literally the same as people and their exes. no matter how perfect things were when you two are together, no matter how fated it may seem, if you are happy with your current romance, and i mean truly happy, your ex and those time with that said ex will always seem insignificant. you wont even remember those times, but instead focus on the now. but what the writers did was force that ex back on your life, destroy your current happiness, all because they thought you two would be happy together. that's why most people hated the ted+robin ending. we learned to let go of our robin. we were happy with our tracy.
Well, Ted certainly doesn't seem to find the time he spent with Robin insignificant. Otherwise, he wouldn't have told the story the way he did. Ted was already forcing his ex back on his life by telling the story. If the whole point of the show is about letting go of the past and focussing on the present and the future, then the whole flashback format makes no sense and is completely antithetical to what the series is about. So based on your argument, you should be hating the whole series, or at least the framing device, and not just the ending.
@@bendowson3124 oh dont get me wrong mate. i was rooting for Robin for the whole, what was it..8 seasons? more or less. and i find the whole flashback scenes phenomenal. but then, meeting tracy... robin cant even compare. not bashing your vid and your research, mate. it is quite sound, actually. i like the whole show and the ending in general. it shows how when life happens, it's not always what you think it'd be. and i think thats what H.I.M.Y.M excels at. but you know, can't help having a few gripes here and there. i'm only human, after all. anyway, kudos for the vid.
The problem with the ending isn't that there are no clues leading up to the ending (as OP has proven there's a ton). The problem is that it plays too loosely with genre. This show is a comedy that laughs at so many of the gang's issues (Kal Penn's character especially nails down their issues with boundaries and codependence). They make light of it like you're not really supposed to pay attention. The writing laughs it off to say it's irrelevant, but then it twists it around to say that it is inportant at the end. It's a classic "Can't Have Your Cake And Eat It Too" scenario. Take Barney for instance. They want so many of Barney's issues to be a joke, but that means that his and Robin's divorce feels like it comes from nowhere when his issues suddenly become important. In more serious moments we see him make committed strides to improving and turning away from his old habits, and then when he can't write wedding vows we get the laugh track to remind us that this isn't really a serious problem. That leads us to believe that his improvements are genuine and his issues are just comedy. Personally, I'm fine with the revelation of the mother's sickness. That makes sense. Ted getting back together with Robin again does make it seem like she died only so that Ted could be with Robin. And it makes it seem like her and Barney getting divorced is for the same reason when things seemed to point towards them working out. It just feels like the audience was set up by the comedy of it undercutting the serious issues that the show would later use to prop up the ending.
I'm not so much upset that he ended up with Robin, but with the structure of the reveal. They shouldn't have built the entire last season around Robin and Barney' wedding just to undo it in less than an episode. They should've had the wrdding be the season finale of 8 and spent the whole 9th season showing Barney and Robin' dysfunction, and Tracy and Ted's love story blossoming.
FWIW Every series eventually has to "justify" it's premise. Part of what made HIMYM unique was Ted telling the story to the kids. As the show went on we realized that the writers had to have created an entire scenario ahead of time since the 2 kids barely aged. The inside joke was the bait and switch where "Aunt" Robin was concerned, which was kind of given away in the first episode combined with the real mother hiding in plain sight.
Į just finished watching The series and i can say that it iš The best and my favourite series ever į cried like five times in the last few episodes Thanks to who ever made this
I enjoyed rewatching these scenes. However your analysis was so off point I don’t know what to say. Hindsight is 20/20 but even with it you jump to conclusions that shouldn’t even exist.
Robin and Barney divroce its the reasonable, because even though they loved each other they werent mature enough to be a couple. And two people with the same mind will never work, its life. And im happy ted and robin were together in the end just because Ted really loved her even though she didnt deserve the love, care, being always for her, the helping that Ted gave her
You are allowed to have you interpretation/opinion. And i get trying to justify the writers decisions. But it in my opinion and many others....IT WAS ALL A WASTE 4 EVERYONE 2 BASICALLY END UP IN THE EXACT SAME PLACE THE SHOW STARTED
Barney's abandonment issue goes deeper. He was not only abandoned.by his father, which is utterly incurable, he was also abandoned by his mother. Sure she grew to be the mother as we know on the show. But she wasn't always like that. She was a groupie who would leave her 10 y o sons at home for a weekend of drugs and orgies with some band. That's why he was so invested into his relationship with Shannon and his hippie beliefs. Because when you've been abandoned by the most important people in your life, you start looking for the perfect person (in Shannon), and when you can't find happiness in your day to day life, you start imagining there to be some painless heaven (hippie beliefs). That's why he reacted so drastically to the breakup.
Just because you planned for it to happen, doesn't make it a good decision at all. As a writer, if you're going to waste a WHOLE SEASON on an event that gets rendered moot with a 10-minute voice-over, you've effectively wasted that time. Supernatural, anyone? God knows how that series ran beyond 5 years.
Where did you get that information from? I know they did shoot a funeral scene but that was never supposed to replace the scene of Ted and Robin getting back together. It's just one of several deleted scenes from the finale.
It might have been what you mentioned, just a scene. It has been years since I read about it. I did hate the ending when it came out... now, idk, seems more like life and the hurtles you go through.
nah the ending was just cruel. robin and ted were awful together and you could never really root for them because it was told to us in the first episode that they were not endgame. the show was about finding the mother, ted's future wife so robin and ted was just a brief thing on the way to the real happy ending. if they really wanted them together they should have build it up better. they ended things at the end of season 2, had some normal ex backsliding at the beginning of season 3 and a very brief friends with benefit thing for one episode in season 4 an that was it. and yes ted and barney drunkenly fought over her for one episode in season 5 and even that felt forced on ted's side. pairing her up with barney made total sense because she and ted were way better as friends. her and barney had so much natural chemistry and focusing a whole season on their wedding only to break them up right after is just cruel and pathetic.
Personally the series ended the way it should have. With Ted n Robin happy about the possibility of a future. If I'm being honest the only hurdle for Ted n Robin throughout the whole series was kids. Once Ted has his, as messed up as it sounds Tracy was no longer valid/needed. Sure he care/loved the mother of his kids but he never was into her like Robin. True love endures even good friends doing stupid things in the excuse they are helping you. Lily was the most selfish person in the series. So I'm glad Marshall got his 20 bucks in the end.
Yes! I have the same impression. Ted and Robin broke up because they had different prorities when they were younger but years later Ted doesn't need a women who would like to have their own children and his grown up ones shouldn't bother Robin neither as it isn't the same as getting pregnant and raising their own. I don't see a reason why they wouldn't try to get together again.
Also, the vow scene clearly lights up why Barney and Ted so close friends: they are both afraid of changing. Just like in Ted's case is stucking in a loop of bad decisions, Barney constanctly distracted himself from facing the reality (that Marshall said out loud in the Chain of Screaming)
I would never say the ending of HIMYM was bad writing or anything. But after so many seasons of ups and downs, and so many downs in the later seasons, the ending was simply unreasonably sad to me. What shall the viewer take from this ending? Now matter how difficult the road may be, you will always reach a point that is great, and then you will have to carry, but you only can reach a point that is somehow o.k. now? Idk, simply an overkill to me.
I'll tell u what happened.. they pushed introducing Tracy for so long the show begun to loose audience and they had to introduce her then kill her so they can fill the dream of Ted being with robin
The only justification of Ted getting back with Robin is Tracy dying, and Ted waiting years after the fact. The show acknowledges that Tracy is Ted's one and only other half.
I agree that Tracy was in many ways a better match for Ted. However, I don't think that means the ending was bad. The writers didn't get Ted and Robin back together because they were a better match. They got them back together to justify why Ted was telling the story the way he was and to dispense with the idea of "the one". Remember, Tracy already had her "one" in Max. So when Ted got back together with Robin, he was doing basically the same thing that Tracy did when she got together with Ted. So if you want to criticise the ending on the basis that Tracy was Ted's "the one", then you would also have to concede that Tracy shouldn't have ended up with Ted because Max was her "the one".
I'm sorry but all these interpretations are very forced, you are suggesting the opposite of what is actually being said and/or implied. Ted and Robin had a go at the relationship but even after 10 years of knowing each other they still were very different people with different life goals and mindsets. They worked great as friends and even roommates that bickered, but not romantic partners. The only reason Ted keeps holding on to Robin is because he has lost all faith in ever finding true love, so he goes with what's familiar which puts a lot of stress and confusion on Robin. I think that the writers wanted to create a Ross and Rachel vibe with them but it just backfired when their relationship ran cold for many seasons, while they each met their perfect match Ted with Tracy and Robin with Barney. If those relationships hadn't been so perfect maybe we could have accepted the ending, but it just felt so forced and weird.
I love at 3:23 barney is almost shook that someone could look through his facade of a carefree playboy as he’s used to just ignoring all his problems and having no one truly understand him
I probably have watched HIMYM 6 or more times, but I still can't overcome the quick, messy final episode. I don't mind Ted and Robin ending up together. I loved that! I hate the rush though... "I carried that lesson with me and I carried it with me when SHE GOT SICK"... REALLY???!!! It felt and it still feels like they didn't know what to do with the mother. They just had to get rid of her, because five minutes were left and Ted+Robin had to end up together. Considering they spent one season telling the story of one weekend... the final episode feels like "let's finish this crap because I want to go home soon". Unforgivable.
With that point, I kind of agree. The mistake the writers made was not including more flashforwards in Season 9. They already had a plan for what the final episode would look like before they knew there would be a ninth season. I don't think the writers realised just how rushed their planned final episode would be. They actually wrote a number of important scenes that had to be cut for time which shows that they clearly overestimated how much they could fit into two episodes. If they had known all of this going into Season 9, I think they would have taken used Season 9 as a golden opportunity to include many flashforwards so that by the time they got to the finale, they could focus on Ted and Tracy's story leading up to the wedding and then her death. They could then show some scenes of Ted and Robin together in the aftermath of Tracy's death that indicate that a spark may be returning. That way when they get back together in the end it is less of a shock.
@@bendowson3124Have you noticed how Robin's long expanses away from the group always coincided with Robin's fear of losing Ted (as either a friend or a partner) or how the marriage pact, the friends with benefits status were her creation? I also don't find it shocking Robin is a major part of Luke and Penny's lives given that she has on between 3-5 occasions expressed the desire of having children with Ted, something she never did with Kevin or Barney. In "Bad Crazy" all but one of the flash forwards are after Tracy's death and all of which after the divorce. Robin's major estrangement from the group was when Ted was with Tracy. Therefore it was more a question of when Ted's feelings for Robin would return, as she was doing the work being the new mother for luke and penny, and helping him deal with the loss of Tracy all for selfish reasons I may like to add. Why don't you do an updated compilation of scenes, as there were quite a few more, (many in the last 3 seasons that justify and/ or foreshadow the ending)?
8:45 I always understood that as Teds own mother passed away and wouldn’t be able to attend his wedding. But this makes a lot more sense looking back it it I will admit.
The truth is: Barney did not deserve Robin. The woman who decides she should be with the another man just before the wedding is the biggest red flag. There's a reason we learnt it was best that Stella left Ted. It applies to Robin regardless of ted not running away w her
Honestly all the explanations pushed me farther in the other direction. If you have to over explain scenes that clearly came across one way to make them say the opposite... the audience isn't in the wrong. The writing is. They let the show flow and it didn't gel with the ending they picked 8 years before they got there. That's the fundamental flaw with this show. That and the horrific season written over one weekend with the awful poetry episode.
What I see the scenes as clearly saying is the opposite of what you see the scenes as clearly saying. That's why I put the notes in because the reason the ending is hated is because so much of the show was misinterpreted. For example, many see the show as demonstrating clearly that Ted and Robin weren't right for each other but that was only because they were biased in their assumption that Ted would end up with the Mother. I'm trying to correct people's biases not create new ones.
Genuinely I think Martial and Lily ruined the ending, they spend 9 seasons playing a bet on who would win about Robin and Ted. There's even a deleted scene where Lily pays Martial up.
I always thought Ted was crying at the whole "what mother misses their kids wedding" thing because I just assumed his own mum was dead by that point and would miss his wedding
Their wedding was four years prior to this conversation, so it is unlikely that Ted would still be upset at the fact that his Mother missed his wedding. Him crying at the fact that Tracy would miss her daughter's wedding makes more sense.
@@bendowson3124 not gonna lie, not a fan of the foreshadowing how you mention it...but yeah, that moment with Tracy was indicating something bad for her ...it really made me sad at the time (watching it many years ago)
my biggest problem with HIMYM was how the blue french horn stealing was made into this iconic moment of like "true love" it was done out of the blue on a girl he had a crush with, i mean talk about a load of crap.. with all of the decent relationships Ted had with the girls over the seasons they were more flushed out it wasn't just the one act of randomness that keeps getting thrown back into your face. yes it was obvious from the beginning of their relationship that they were going to end up back together again and through each season they kept laying it on thick, but the actual ending of how they ended up together was utter crap. Tracy was essentially there purely to be the mother of Ted's children, like some kind of cow to give birth to calf to only then get slaughtered and turned into hamburgers. the ending was shit, if you enjoyed it, well good on you but it most certainly wasn't a "good" ending from an actual story ending perspective, TBBT had a similar problem with our the final season ended.
These Videos make me think that the one who made them got into a argument about the ending and lost because they couldn't recall the scenes and got petty xD
Ross and rachel are the worst couple ever, Ross is the most unstable, insecure, self-centered and jealous character of the whole show, not to mention that Ross treats Rachel badly, telling her that she is not intelligent or that she does not know how to do things alone, Ross is Rachel's most toxic couple until the point that he prevents her from going to Paris to have her dream job
@@eduardosala797 look there is true love and then there is epic love, what Chandler and monica had that was true love.. Yeah they started as a friends but later.. It turned into love between two friends... But in the case of ross and rachel it was more kind of selfish love which is more kind of epic love with all the hardships... Let me give one more example..In the Vampire diaries, stefan and elena that was pure... But damon and elena that was epic with all the selfishness ...damon was bad for her but their love was epic
@@shashanksrivastava1226 i understand there is a lot of diferents ways of love, but we have to admit that the relationship between Ross and Rachel is toxic for her, Ross always try to manipulate her, trying to convince her to do what he likes and telling her what's good or wrong for her instead of let her make their own decisions, I'm sorry but if that's "epic" love, when someone can control the life and the decisions of other people, I dont want that kind of relationship ever
@@eduardosala797 you're acting like Rachel wasn't toxic too. She's the worst character in the show. She's just as selfish, if not more. If it doesn't work for her, in her favor or can't be controlled she throws a hissy fit. Perfect example, she only wanted Ross when he was with other people, going out of her way to make sure Ross knew she had feelings for him when he never did that to her. He let her be happy with other people, but she always came crying and whining about how "he needs to know how I feel" when he was happy with other girls. When he was insecure, which every single person is, she told him to "get over it" that's not what being in a relationship is. It's about nurturing and encouraging each other. When she broke up with him, yes broke up, she blamed him for "cheating" when she clearly told Monica they broke up. And when she went to his place the next day she said "can I be your girlfriend again?" meaning she wasn't. But she still threw a hissy fit that she left him and he slept with someone else. Rachel had a lot of character development. But she's still the worst character.
I think it's not coincidence that Ted letting go of Robin is represented as her ascending to heaven. He's in his mind trying to equate letting her go with letting Tracy go. the difference is of course that Robin isn't dead, so she wasn't gone forever. The end of the show is his kids making him finally learn the lessons he was clearly teaching them and failing to fully grasp himself.
I didn't mind the ending, i just wish they'd spent less time following Robin and Barney for an entire season (esp when it doesn't amount to anything) and more time showing Ted and Tracey happily together so we could bask in their perfect chemistry.
scene 1. i don't think there is any doubt that ted still loves robin I don't think any person would deny that scene 2. seriously what does this have to do with the ending (you have a strange obsession with barney's internal struggles when they have nothing to do with the ending), yeah I still agree with that but surely a part of barney's arc would be finding somebody new who was special to him (also barney didn't mess that up but whatever) scene 3. I mean sure people can change their mind but not about everything, how is it this hard to get relationships are a two way thing like just cause ted loves robin doesn't mean robin loves ted, I'm sorry but what like this isn't symbolism it's what it says on the tin ted can always move back to Chicago thus justifying why he could move their in later seasons (seriously become and english teacher), okay but he doesn't end up doing that in the end so like what is your point here, once again he doesn't let fate decide at the end and really no that wasn't a good decision because if it wasn't for a load of bs barney and robin would've stuck together scene 4. no I think that's cause he wants a complete family barney was in no way going to cheat on robin if that was the case they would've used cheating to split them up but the creators knew that would be a complete betrayal of his character growth (I mean why they cared when they did the same thing again is beyond me) seriously the marriage line isn't what barney believe or he wouldn't of proposed he just wants a happy complete family and isn't thinking about the consequences it's logical for his character to do that scene 5. him unlearning the lesson doesn't mean it's false though it just means he forgot it, once again I don't think anyone has denied that during this time ted was in love with robin, well in this case the lesson is wrong and he never truly let robin go I think that was the obvious point of this episode, yeah so I can't believe that you missed this but there's some very obvious symbolism that when he lets robin go she floats off that implies that ted was right once you love someone you can't let them go or the will float off (or in particular him wanting to be in a relationship with robin this is proven in the true finale to the show (ep. 22)), it really should you've just done crazy mental gymnastics, seriously this still makes no sense like ted saying he unlearnt that lesson is in reference to this moment where he let robin go and she never came back the interpretation you had didn't make much sense cause ted was already at peace with it it just hurt him, it is unless you do weird mental gymnastics seriously she floats away from him when helium balloons float away from you do they come back or are you dealing with some new form of helium scene 6. I do agree that tracy dying was foreshadowed I don't like it but it is the way it is scene 7. I can already suspect that this is going to completely miss the scene where barney makes his true vow, and yep I was right barney's vows are treated as a joke so as the audience we should treat them that way but more importantly barney chucks out those vows showing his love for robin and making a true unconditional vow it shows character growth, okay this is a bit more fair but I think once again his vow is uncompromising on himself that he will always tell the truth is a knock to him but he still does it cause he knows that's what she needs seriously how do you miss this blatant symbolism and also quick reminder it's a joke, yeah but not really robin goes against what she learned from don about compromising with partners barney did it all for her and still got burned (unless we count the blog which is a showing of lazy writing using the joke devices as a serious reason the break up is stupid scene 8. yeah cause ted no longer wants to be in a relationship with her anymore you can still love someone and no longer want that, oh yeah he cared so much about that with victoria, I mean they can but that doesn't change the fact it feels forced (but also misses the larger issue with the fact that robin doesn't want kids scene 9. no it doesn't but the chucking away of the wedding vows is you know this thing we calls symbolism very obvious symbolism at that (don't become an English teacher actually) all those conditional vows he made are being chucked away cause he doesn't believe in those at all anymore and barney and robin didn't split up for either reason you mentioned at least not on barneys end scene 10. I mean I think he would have told her after like lying in this situation for a short amount of time is genuinely completely reasonable, I mean sure but it could be a healthy happy relationship and still have problems all relationships do
in the last episode before the finale, robin says that every time barney says legendary, it means not true.. and at the end of the episode, ted (narrator) says it was legendary
Hey guys. So, Part 3 got removed as you probably noticed. Unfortunately I don't know which clip(s) caused it to be taken down and I don't want to risk reuploading it so here are the scenes that originally made that part:
In Season 8 Episode 21 Romeward Bound, Barney spends most of the episode trying to see the body of his wedding planner. He envies Marshall who could get away with telling her to take off her coat because he "has no stink", implying that Barney DOES have stink. He also says that Marshall wants to spend the rest of his life with Lily and only Lily, but won't admit the same for himself and Robin. Later, Barney accused Ted of claiming to know Robin better than he does. However, Ted's words to Barney are confirmed in Season 8 Episode 23 Something Old where it is Ted, not Barney, who recognises that Robin needs help. After going to help Robin, she tells Ted that she's doubting whether she or Barney are ready for marriage. As it is later revealed, neither Robin nor Barney were really ready for marriage at this point in time.
In Season 8 Episode 24, Ted chooses to move to Chicago since it is the only way he feels he can move on from Robin. Therefore, Ted's eventual decision to stay in New York for a girl he had JUST MET is proof that Ted had finally moved on from Robin. It is later revealed that Robin chose to move to Japan for the exact same reason that Ted almost moved to Chicago, i.e. that she was still in love with Ted. This proves that Robin never fully moved on from Ted after their breakup. It is also interesting that although at this point in time, Robin had been saying that she was not ready for marriage, part of her still wished it was her marrying Ted, not Stella.
You can go on youtube's twitter ("teamyoutube") and ask them to tell you which parts. I dont know if the video is still in your video manager but if it is they can help. Or you can re upload and ask them which part.
would be nice, if you would put this text in the description of the video :)
and ty very much for the vids, love them
Aw. Loved those scenes. Thanks for putting this together! I miss HIMYM!
Thanks Dude. You made my day. I don't remeber that i thougt Robin wants to move to Japan because of her job.
But i did remember that she speak with Ted about his wedding with Stella.
He should not marry her. Because she don't want to lose him for a posiblity.
Yeah maybe Ego too.But she was right Stella dis not deserve him!
Thx i was always a Ted and Robin shipper.
I could never understand that Robin and Barney thing.
Yeah there had much in common but i liked Barney with Quinn much better.
After all when Ted would ended still with the Mother i think i would be okay know with that.
But the loved her all those Years.I ask me was Tracy never jealouse about there realtionship??
Did Ted ever tell her this? Because Victoria wants that he ends the friendship with Robin.
@@lanabeniko5147 I'm thinking Tracy probably wasn't jealous like Victoria since Victoria and Ted's relationship was first ended because of Robin. Ted was fully invested in Tracy so I'm sure she was never jealous of his relationship with him.
that scene... "what mother is gonna miss her daughter's wedding?"... Josh Radnor did SUCH a fenominal job at his acting there... it just hurts to watch... it's so realistic and strong.
phenomenal*
I had no clue at first whether her mom missed it or what but now we know
Tracy also told Ted not to live in his stories. It's like giving him the permission to move on after her death.
It's exactly like giving him the permission to move on! I so agree!
But buddy , she asked him to MOVE FORTH! And NOT back to the Robin goddamn Scherbatsky!
“Living in his stories” would be going back to Robin. He’s trying to relive his old stories instead of moving on with his life.
@@brandismith3911 I kind of see it like this: after a long time of telling the story of how he met tracy he finally understands what tracy had said to him and then goes on to make a new story, with someone from the past yes, but a new story.
@Areti 22 I feel like it makes sense for Ted to be with Robin because after losing Tracy he can never again develop a strong romantic relationship with another woman. He can only go back to an old love that existed before Tracy because (for him) no other woman after Tracy can ever exist. It's only in an old love that he can find a meaningful connection, not the level that he had with Tracy because no one can ever replace the mother of his children; but an old love that is comfortable and familiar. Tracy is his soulmate, the mother of his children and no one, not even Robin, can replace or comes close to what he and Tracy had. Ted knows that.
@@katc.6922 This...This calmed my mind...I just saw the ending and it broke me. Thank you!
I feel like it makes sense for Ted to be with Robin because after losing Tracy he can never again develop a strong romantic relationship with another woman. He can only go back to an old love that existed before Tracy because (for him) no other woman after Tracy can ever exist. It's only in an old love that he can find a meaningful connection, not the level that he had with Tracy because no one can ever replace the mother of his children; but an old love that is comfortable and familiar. Tracy is his soulmate, the mother of his children and no one, not even Robin, can replace or comes close to what he and Tracy had. Ted knows that.
I can understand where you're coming from, but the problem isn't the fact that Ted continues to love Robin. The problem is that Robin riciprocated those feelings depsite nine seasons worth of content that proved while they didn't fit together. Robin still doesn't want kids, being with Ted means she'll have to be the step-mum to his two children. Robin still doesn't want commitment. Barney and Robin's divorce essentially cements this into place, while Ted still longs for that emotional, romantic bond he found with Tracy. Robin wants to pursue her career, being with Ted again would only anchor her down from doing so, she has no reason to fall back into his arms other than for the sake of nostalga after he brought the blue french horn to her window again (Which, I'll admit, was cute and endearing of Ted) bit that alone should not have been enough. Robin and Ted just don't fit.
A more satisfying version of the same ending would be for Barney and Robin to realise they still can't commit and get their divorce like the canon. Then, after Ted finishes telling his story, he professes his love for Robin one last time and she actually rejects him instead. Sure, it'd be bittersweet and the crowd would probably still hate it, but at least it would make more sense than what we ended up with.
I disagree about Ted and Robin not fitting, as said before in the series they need chemistry and timing. Ted and Robin got exactly what they wanted in life. Ted married his soul mate, had two beautiful children, and Robin got the career she always wanted. Now they want to see what will happen after they achieved their dreams. I don’t see Ted looking for the bond he had with Tracy in someone else (including Robin) and I don’t see Robin trying to be a step mom to the children, she will always be cool aunt Robin and help them if they need her, like all aunts do. Will they work out, I have no idea. I don’t see this as happily ever after for them. I see it more as two people looking for companionship now that life has taken them on a different journey than they ever expected. Because now Ted isn’t looking for the one and Robin established her career -they now have a chance to finally be their truest selves together. Maybe it will work out or maybe it won’t, but they have far better odds in working out than they did when they first met.
@@just_a_morningstarI’d say the real issue is that so many people want to view the HIMYM ending as Happily-Ever-After, when it is actually saying Here-We-Go-Again.
We do have nine years worth of stories showing that Ted and Robin aren’t the best match. We also have nine years worth of stories that show they never stopped having feelings for each other.
There’s a good chance that their latest try will fail again, even if the past obstacles to their relationship are no longer what they once were. But there’s also a chance it might work, and both are ready to try again.
@@just_a_morningstar did you forget some episodes in season 8 and 9 where robin becames way more open into kids and Ted literally saying that Robin is the the person that most loved marvin and the other kids marshal and lily had? it's literally said that robin with age became way more open to kids. and robin does want commitment, she was the one pushing more to marry barney. robin and barney divorced happened because she was travelling the world and barnie didn't want to just travel and wanted to continue partying. in 2030 when the last scenes are happening Robin says that she has traveled around the world like she always has dreamed of and she has gotten to a point in her career that she wanted so she is ready to settle down now. We are not shown what barnie is doing but it is said that he is taking care of his daughter but we can assume he still likes the "party" life style. I don't think you watched with any attention what happend in the last 3 episodes.
I’d say the actual issue with this ending is that so many people can’t accept that the ending is not happily-ever-after, but instead here-we-go-again.
that robin as a balloon scene was so extra😂😂
I felt it so much
I actually cringed.
I always assumed it was supposed to be comical, was that scene serious? 😂
@@joeyralston3773 it’s probably a bit of both lol
@@joeyralston3773 it was a direct comparison to letting go of the balloon
Also, Barney made plenty of sacrifices. He moved around with Robin just to be with her, yet as always Robin put her career in front of anything, including her husband.
It was suppose to be like "strong woman doesnt need to be stuck with a man" but just felt like shes always lonely because no one can stand her being away all the time... not even her friends
Letícia Guelere And Ted could only be with her in the end because another woman gave him already what he always wanted, children and family etc. It probably would have been the same between Robin and Ted in the end as in the beginning, if Ted hadnt got all those things in the meantime
Considering the choice to break up was his..
that part pissed me off
The thing the sucked the most at the end robin choise job after her husband but choise don after what the fuck...
Its sucks how the go the End...
And look tracy was used that ted could get kids...
Ted- The only person Heisenberg couldn't manipulate
He also left the door open for Ted, even though Heisenberg is the one who knocks
He did some Hall, Walter and Heisenberg in that scene
Lol and I just started watching Braking Bad
There’s no justifying the ending the entire last season was centered around Barney and robins wedding just for them to be divorced in the final episode
The thing is the story of ted has been finished with the 8th season, so the 9th is a big strech of the originally planned final episodes. I don‘t know why are people so mad with the ending it‘s brilliant written and smart. The bummer for people might just be, that this has never been a story about finding the one and only. It‘s a story about how love defines our lifes.
@@deinHELD1 the ending was actually really good but the timing was not good at all
gebakken aarshaar yeah I agree, the ending was good but they timed it wrong. If you watch the alternative ending, I like it more just because it was timed better.
Katerina Papaspiropoulos yeah but the alternative ending didn’t follow the series.
The whole thing was that life always threw you obstacles and overcoming them. A normal happy ending was never in the cards for the show.
Edward Lomeli neither ending worked out well, but I still love this series.
I’m ok with the mother dying but Ted ending up with Robin completely undoes every characters emotional arcs
Two things. 1) Ted going back to Robin
2) Robin and Barney getting a divorce. Like why spend the entire season for them to be together and end it with a divorce?
Tracy ends up with max as well
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I don't know why they kept pushing Robin and Barney together, much less have them get married. They had zero chemistry and things hadn't changed between the time they ended their first relationship and when they got married. The problems they had the in first relationship carried over into their marriage.
It was logical ending
@@ezequi889 omg i just realized that, and ngl that hit
I wouldn't have such a problem with the ending if they at least would've given the ending as much love as they gave the rest of their show... but that "last hour of the show changing everything" ending just feels so forced, it may have been foreshadowed and maybe it would've been the perfect ending but even if, they should've put more love into it... it feels like the writing part of the set wanted it to happen but the directors part just put it out to make the writers happy
it isn't the lack of love, but the lack of time. the ending isn't bad, but it's too fast. while this represents life (which is a goal of the series), it makes an issue from a serie/story perspective. they should have spend more time in a good build-up for the ending and maybe even seperate the ending into multiple episodes.
That moment when ted cries when he realizes tracy’s not going to make it.... made my heart melt
The ending only happened because the writers wrote the ending of the show when it started without realising that the story was going to evolve.
I don't agree that this justifies anything. The ending that aired was written and filmed years in advance, when they thought they were going to end after season two which was their original contract. When they got picked up for more episodes, they extended the story farther then anticipated and evolved the characters more then they originally planned. None of these characters where the same people they would've been had the show ended in season two and the relationships built up in the show meant something to fans. Watching Barney evolve and change for Robin watching ted learn to let go AND introducing the mom when they originally weren't going to, changed how we perceived the main characters and their connection to one another. To develop all of this new story and build on something so much, only to sweep it all under the rug and go back to "ted and robin destined to end up together" it felt cheap, it felt lazy and it felt like they were playing it safe with this ending. I liked the mom, I think a lot of long term fans liked the mom and I feel like most people were done with the "will they won't they" of Ted and Robin. They no longer felt like the destined couple that we wanted at first and at least for me it felt too unrealistic to see them in that last scene, it just wasn't believable anymore
Couldn't have said it better myself. But just saying, Victoria was added to the show to be the mom had the show been canceled. It was their failsafe. I was never a fan of Ted and Robin. Hated the ending because they essentially threw out everything Ted went through to mature and get over Robin.
Ugh, there’s no way they thought the show was gonna end in s2 and just because Ted ended up with Robin doesn’t take anything away from Ted and Tracy. As the ending says, the entire story was getting the kids to understand that he loved their mom but after so many years of her gone it was time to move on and the entire 9 years of the show justifies that. Ted and Tracy were perfect. Ted and Robin were good but they’ll never be Ted and Tracy and no one ever tried to say that.
@@Tomweldonsays not end, be canceled, there was a chance that the show would have been canceled after its initial first season I believe.
Crow Gaming No way. The show had an average of 10 million viewers basically the entire series. Every season. It wasn’t gonna be cancelled.
@@Tomweldonsays according to Carter Bays, one of the creators of the show, Victoria was going to be the mother if the show was going to be canceled after its first season. Yeah they filmed Ted and Robin ending up together 8 years before the ending, but that was just to ensure the kids didn't look too grown up when the show ended.
Lol I always forget that Bryan Cranston was on HIMYM
Would have been awesome if they could have gotten him to return in the final season as WW
Seinfeld, HIMYM and Breaking Bad.. 3 of the best TV shows of all-time and he was on all of them. Heck, even Malcom in the Middle and Sneaky Pete. He does nothing but high quality.
This seems more like an interpretation than a direct translation of the scenes meanings.
All the character development in the last 2 seasons was pretty much wasted by the last 2 episodes.
THANK YOU!!
I guess you could interpret anything in any way you want, but this video is pretty much exact what it all is. It’s life, and things happen.
@@Tomweldonsays Yes. It's completely ridiculous to say it's just an interpretation of the scenes when the ending of the show clearly follows said INTERPRETATION. This video is right about the show. 100 %. But a whole lot of people still can't accept that. I guess it's not easy to admit that they have watched this show for 9 long seasons and STILL didn't get the point of it.
NO IT WASNT!
Barney actually matured and changed, even if it isnt for his wife, he changed!
That's all I wanted while watching the finale and that's what I got!
Nothing was wasted
If you are explaining a scene you are giving your interpretation, so you saying that the characters development was wasted it’s yours. If you don’t consider his interpretation of the show finale as an explanation is because you aren’t open to change your mind about it.
I've rewatched this series several times to give the ending a better understand and justification for Ted's actions. To my dismay I still never accepted the ending. The foreshadowing is all there but if there was no point to the mother, then there shouldn't have been so much foreshadowing to which Ted would end up with Tracy and finding his true love. We see this chemistry between Robin and Ted and we see the pros and the cons. We see that their relationship was flawed it never was meant to be. Again the writers and producers did not anticipate the audience to develop an attachment to characters and their development. Barney gets devolved back to playboy when the whole show builds his character to throw that lifestyle away as he too finds love that he never anticipated. They try fixing his character again last second by giving him a daughter but it just felt forced. Robin devolves back to herself and looks at Ted in jealousy as he finally found true happiness with someone who understands Ted in a fundamental level. Plus Ted telling the story to his kids is just a narrative device to allow the narrator to speak to the audience. That reason is why I like the fact in the last episode Ted looks directly in front of the camera (as to his kids but actually to the audience), "And that, is How I Met Your Mother." The writers probably thought that it would work subverting people's expectations as "why would the writers use the same ending they conceived several seasons ago? It's not practical." and by doing exactly that people would be in for a big surprise that Ted ends up with Robin. It's almost as bad as Game of Thrones as the D&D kept wanting to subvert people's expectations and pulled their worst card too around their last season. And I know people also say "oh but there was foreshadowing that Daenerys was gonna be the Mad Queen." The amount of foreshadowing is less in contrast to the overall change in narrative and development. I was definitely okay with Tracy dying it's just the fact that they stuck with Robin and Ted is what irks me. That's my thoughts and two cents though y'all can let me know what you think as well if you'd like.
You nailed it. Its as if nostalgia took over and they just wanted the story and characters to “come full circle”. But it felt forced as you said, you basically brought everyone back to where they started. Which was young and immature
You explained it perfectly! And I love the reference to GOT, because they screwed it up just as much, and fans reacted equally. It's a shame when they butcher a good show like this.
The last couple episodes of himym was basically a slap in the face for all the loyal fans who stuck with the show for 9 whole seasons...your explanation was great, I agree completely.
Trying to justify that Ted ended up being with Robin is like trying to justify the flat Earth.
Higher than Barney and Robin, of course. But not even close to Zoey and Victoria. And please don't even think about comparing Robin with Tracy, because Tracy's chemistry with Ted was on a whole other level.
@David Stephens ok I'll give you a point for that but we can't discuss that Ted had to be with Tracy, no other girl was that nice to him, she is the woman every man would like to find.
@@luispablo3881 I think probably the problem comes a bit from having so much seasons because it was meant like that from the start
Romain Savioz they led us to believe that he was letting go of Robin after giving Barney the go ahead n moving away to start over
You have a better chance at justifying the flat earth theory thab ted and Robin ending up together
That’s the problem. The writers wrote those moments to justify an ending that should ve never been the ending. Because it wasn’t natural. They forced it upon the show, simply because that’s what they planned back in season 2.
I disagree. To me, the whole series is consistent with the ending. The scenes in this video are just some of the key scenes that highlight where the story was REALLY going from the beginning.
The whole series had virtually NOTHING to do with the mother. It was all about Ted's search for love which, as it turns out, began and ended with Robin. Also, the ending perfectly justifies why Ted told the story the way he did. If he really wanted to tell the story about how he met the kid's mother, he would have spend more time talking about the mother than he did the rest of the gang. And yet Ted went on for hours telling stories about Robin, Barney, Lily and Marshall that had literally NOTHING to do with Ted's search for love, let alone the mother. This is because although Ted may have INITIALLY intended to tell the story of how he met the kid's mother, it ultimately became an opportunity for Ted to revisit his past. And through revisiting his past before meeting the Mother, he finally realised that there was a life to be lived beyond his dead wife and was finally able to move on from his wife and admit his resurfaced feelings for Robin.
Ben Dowson You are right. This show wasn’t about his mom. But as you said, it wasn’t only about his love to Robin either.
In fact, if it wasn’t for the last season where they toned down a bit, the show wanted you to root for Robin and Barney.
@@bendowson3124 the story is supposed to be about Ted's search for true love, and in order for him to explain that to his kids he had to explain how he got there in the first place. That's why he spends so much time talking about the gang. You're saying they planned for him to end up with Robin all along, yet Victoria was introduced into the show because had the show been canceled she was going to be Ted's "true love." The ending was crap and they threw years of storytelling out the window, undermining everything that the 5 of them went through.
@@OmegaLightning I know that Ted's intention was to tell how his eight year journey from 2005 to 2013 led him to the Mother. However, way too many storylines had NOTHING to do with the Mother. For example, did he really have to tell the story of how him and Barney got into a fight? Did he really have to tell the story of the three-way? Did he really have to talk about Robin's past as a Canadian pop star? None of those stories are at all relevant to Ted's search for love. If it weren't for the ending, the only justification for those irrelevant storylines would be "because it's a sitcom". And yes, for those who watched the series from the beginning, that justification may have been enough, but I personally love the fact that they perfectly justified why Ted told the story the way he did.
@@bendowson3124 that's very true it could be that it was to justify it all... Or you could look at those as "filler." If Ted only told his story it would have been that long of a series lol
What justifies how robin pretty much gave up her friendship with lily in such a terrible way
My mom died when I was 8. I’m a guy FYI but point it still hits. Moms are so powerful to our hearts. This was a pivotal scene to me in the series.
I want a Tracy and Ted relationship man🥺💔
Anybody who is honest with themselves, want exactly that
@@derrickbird9676 disagree. there is such a thing is "too perfect", which I'd argue their marriage was. there were no sign of internal struggles, no sign of fights. nothing. nothing that will occasionally remind them why they chose for eachother and why they love eachother. they just love eachother because that's all they've been doing. this is also why I'd argue Ted + Robin is a better match; yeah sure, their personalities don't match as well. but it gives them struggles. it gives them issues to overcome together. to learn more from eachother and to relove eachother.
This show is so emotionally important to me and the clips used here really hit home for me
1:05 I sympathize with the girl in the blue sitting directly behind Marshall trying to see the game from behind Jason Segel's large frame.
Lmao
When ted said he lobed robin the 8th season, it was so out of the blue. After years of them being normal friends, suddenly it made it seem lile ted and robin had been in an akward place ever sincs they broke up. It was all so rushed, one day they are normal friends, then suddenly ted cant bare to be just friends, and has to move to Chicago to get away from her. It had been established so many times ted and robin dont work, he wanted a commitment, she didn't. Tracy was the perfect woman for ted. Barney was the perfect man for robin. Dont even get me started on how they completely obliterated the several year long character development of barney in 10 minutes. I could go on...
I recently re-watched the show for the first time after it ended. The ending is still a huge slap in the face. And I hate it for so many reasons.
- Barney and Roben divorce. They can't just have an entire season about their wedding and them working on their problem and make it work to just make them divorce the next episode.
- Barney character regression making him making went back to his old ways. It just hurt to see it like this.
- how little we see of Tracy. I got watching this show because I wanted to see the mother. But she is dead.
Though I can to a certain way can accept those 3 points above. I will never ever accept that Ted and Robin ending up together.
Ted and his obsession with Robin and inability to let go was so annoying it lasted for 3 seasons. (Though the fact he was obsessed with her and finally let go on her wedding day. He wouldn't have met Tracy ... I would love this) but to make it the ending ... guhh
And the fact they made Robin successful in her career but lonely and mesrible like she need a man to be happy and can't be around her friends if she is not with either Ted or Barney, is like saying she can't have both (as a female it feels like an insult). I wish they made her successful and happy, it has dream.
Robin and Ted ending up together after seasons of showing us how they are not compatible and can not work together is a betrayal.
This ending a mere wish fulfillment for Ted. And I hate it.
I love this show but it has the worst ending I ever seen and it makes me hurt, sad, angery every time I watch it. I will always hate for making me feel like this, ending shouldn't make me feel like this.
The problem it's not the ending..... it's the way they tell the ending!!!!!
I agree that the ending could have been told a lot better. This video is targeted at those who hate the ending regardless of how it could have been told.
@@bendowson3124 But that's the thing though. Foreshadowing =/= development. It's what I always tell people. Yes it's nice and all that they foreshadowed these things, but they didn't BUILD up to it. Not really. The last two seasons were spent building up to and covering Robin and Barney's wedding. And no it wasn't perfect or without any hinges and Barney needed to grow A LOT just to get that that point (which he DID), but that's what they were building and developing. Not their divorce. Not Ted and Robin's relationship after YEARS of telling us that they'd moved on. It's also frankly disheartening to watch Barney's character development after 9 seasons completely unravel in one episode. At the time he got married to Robin he was already ready to move on from all his bachelor womanizing ways, he'd resolved his issues with his family and he'd moved on from his past breakups (that was the point of Quinn at his Bachelor party). But for all that to be unraveled in the final minutes of the series is disheartening.
I always said the Barney and Robin wedding storyline should have been over by the Christmas break at the latest.
With the events of the finale, and then some allowed more room to explore in the back half the season.
I always knew the mother was dead, and that Robin was endgame. It's sad to see so many people didn't understand that.
Barney's true romantic love IMHO was Nora. But he messed that up. Mostly because the writers backed themselves into a corner in episode 2 that it was Robin, who would help Ted find her.
And yes they did give themselves an out with Victoria being the mother if the show was canceled early into it's run.
Which I am thankful for, most writers never do that. And even some that do, aren't allowed to wrap it up by the networks.
First season Ted and Victoria could have made it last. Before the infidelity with Robin. But there was no chance it would have after that happened. And deep down they both knew it. Even though they didn't want to admit it themselves, or each other.
@@shadowwolf9909
I alway knew that too.
I was really happy about it.
The dirctor sad they never really had there timing.
I Yeason 7 Robin said if you have cemestry you only need 1 thing timing.
And that is what they never really had after all those Years ago.
Exept from the end.
This is a perfect example of Confirmation Bias 🤦🏼♂️. I could probably go back through the show and do the exact same thing but reasons why it wasn't foreshadowed. Way more than half of these 'justifications' were unintentional.
I dont think its confirmation bias.
I’m sorry but if there was anything this show was good at it was foreshadowing. There was the countdown to marshals dads death starting from 50, Barneys kid,Tracy’s death. Not to mention all the call backs and inside jokes from the slap bet to the foreign cab/limo driver. (Can’t remember his name) they knew what they were doing and they knew what ending they wanted. Take away the last 2 episodes and replace them with a new season and this show has one of the best ending ever. They ran out of time which is actually the most ironic thing I could think of for HIMYM.
Yeah because you know better than the writers, shut the fuck up
@@anthonyturner6399 Tbf having things contained in one episode (the countdown), or calling back to something previous is not prone to confirmation bias like foreshadowing. And far easier to plan than years worth of foreshadowing.
@@anthonyturner6399 Tbf having things contained in one episode (the countdown), or calling back to something previous is not prone to confirmation bias like foreshadowing. And far easier to plan than years worth of foreshadowing.
If y’all think foreshadowing = a good ending. You guys probably liked Game of Thrones season 8.
Foreshadowing the ending doesn’t mean it’s a good ending, if the ending makes 0 sense then it’s a bad ending.
I think ppl were bummed out about the ending was because we fell in love with tracy's (the mother) character. She was so good at portraying the mother that even tho robin and ted were bound to end up together... if you've watched himym religiously like i have and analyzed everything, the whole series was dedicated to robin. Even tho ted was reminiscing how he met tracy, he kept coming back to "being in love with robin" "caring for robin" "being there for robin". The ending made sense, it did. But it sucks bc tracy and ted should've been endgame as well as barney and robin but i think both ted and robin needed to have the thing they wanted the most (ted with having the wofe and kids thing and robin with being an international reporter who traveled a lot) before they come back to one another. I think that was the point.
The ending makes sense, the problem was it was bad timing for a ending, and killing off Tracy seemed stupid. The show is called “how I met ur mother.” Yet you don’t meet the mother till like season 7. The ending was poorly planned, but it made sense.
A N G E L A I agree with the robin part but the show also emphasized about being true to yourself and waiting for the right time for things. Even then teds was all about taking that great leap and hoping for the best and he continued that even after the mother died.
Barney staying with her robin for life was never going to be a thing. It could work but they were both ambitious and one always put himself first while the other out her job first. It would contradict him as a person if he changed and him loving his daughter, which was legit part of him in a way, was him still being true to himself.
Out of everybody I honestly loved Barney’s ending/future out of everybody in the show. For it to end that way he had to break up with robin
I don't think any timing is perfect for Ted and Robin to get back together because they are incompatible. And I know Barney isn't the marriage type of guy, but after all the efforts he went through to change I was absolutely sure his marriage with Robin would be a successful one. The saddened announcement of their divorce completely undid all those changes and ruined his happiness since his backstory that changed him forever restarted all over again😔😭
8:50 man gets me everytime, just heartbreaking, Tracy is sick at this point. Man this series is a masterpiece
HIMYM will always be my fav show, cause it was realistic and sometimes funny
Some would say that the sitcoms usually aim for being funny all the time
The robin balloon scene 😂😂
sometimes?? you mean always!
it reaaaaaally don't take that much to be your fav show, huh? realistic and sometimes funny? lol
Disappointment is an understatement what I felt while watchin the last episode. I felt like I was betrayed. Death is part of our lifes, but Tracy's death was absolutely futile and simply bad writing. I loved that show so much. I'll always be mad about this. Also Ted and Robin are a awful couple. Don't get me wrong, I love her as a character, but her and relationships... Bruh.
You missed that when Robin and Barney get married Ted says something like ‘And their marriage was legendary’ and that’s a foreshadowing because in an other episode (or maybe the same episode, sorry I don’t remember which) Robin says that legendary means fake.
I just wanna know what Tracy died from.
I'd rather not
Bad writing decision
Mesothelioma
Enormous penis syndrome
@@stokkie10thebest I just choked on my food while reading that
everything that happened between ted and robin, the good, the bad, the perfect, fate and all, has been forgotten when we met and fell in love with tracy. it's literally the same as people and their exes. no matter how perfect things were when you two are together, no matter how fated it may seem, if you are happy with your current romance, and i mean truly happy, your ex and those time with that said ex will always seem insignificant. you wont even remember those times, but instead focus on the now. but what the writers did was force that ex back on your life, destroy your current happiness, all because they thought you two would be happy together. that's why most people hated the ted+robin ending. we learned to let go of our robin. we were happy with our tracy.
Well, Ted certainly doesn't seem to find the time he spent with Robin insignificant. Otherwise, he wouldn't have told the story the way he did. Ted was already forcing his ex back on his life by telling the story. If the whole point of the show is about letting go of the past and focussing on the present and the future, then the whole flashback format makes no sense and is completely antithetical to what the series is about. So based on your argument, you should be hating the whole series, or at least the framing device, and not just the ending.
@@bendowson3124 oh dont get me wrong mate. i was rooting for Robin for the whole, what was it..8 seasons? more or less. and i find the whole flashback scenes phenomenal. but then, meeting tracy... robin cant even compare. not bashing your vid and your research, mate. it is quite sound, actually. i like the whole show and the ending in general. it shows how when life happens, it's not always what you think it'd be. and i think thats what H.I.M.Y.M excels at. but you know, can't help having a few gripes here and there. i'm only human, after all. anyway, kudos for the vid.
The amount of efforts you put in to justify your choice. Kudos man!
Robin was selfish AF with barney. And robin didnt love ted so they being together is bullshit
The problem with the ending isn't that there are no clues leading up to the ending (as OP has proven there's a ton). The problem is that it plays too loosely with genre. This show is a comedy that laughs at so many of the gang's issues (Kal Penn's character especially nails down their issues with boundaries and codependence). They make light of it like you're not really supposed to pay attention. The writing laughs it off to say it's irrelevant, but then it twists it around to say that it is inportant at the end. It's a classic "Can't Have Your Cake And Eat It Too" scenario.
Take Barney for instance. They want so many of Barney's issues to be a joke, but that means that his and Robin's divorce feels like it comes from nowhere when his issues suddenly become important. In more serious moments we see him make committed strides to improving and turning away from his old habits, and then when he can't write wedding vows we get the laugh track to remind us that this isn't really a serious problem. That leads us to believe that his improvements are genuine and his issues are just comedy.
Personally, I'm fine with the revelation of the mother's sickness. That makes sense. Ted getting back together with Robin again does make it seem like she died only so that Ted could be with Robin. And it makes it seem like her and Barney getting divorced is for the same reason when things seemed to point towards them working out.
It just feels like the audience was set up by the comedy of it undercutting the serious issues that the show would later use to prop up the ending.
Damn that "missing daughter's wedding scene" got me!
I m really glad that finally someone understood the let go scene in sunrise
I'm not so much upset that he ended up with Robin, but with the structure of the reveal. They shouldn't have built the entire last season around Robin and Barney' wedding just to undo it in less than an episode. They should've had the wrdding be the season finale of 8 and spent the whole 9th season showing Barney and Robin' dysfunction, and Tracy and Ted's love story blossoming.
For every scene that says Robin and Ted should be together, there’s ten more saying that they weren’t endgame
FWIW Every series eventually has to "justify" it's premise. Part of what made HIMYM unique was Ted telling the story to the kids. As the show went on we realized that the writers had to have created an entire scenario ahead of time since the 2 kids barely aged. The inside joke was the bait and switch where "Aunt" Robin was concerned, which was kind of given away in the first episode combined with the real mother hiding in plain sight.
Foreshadowing doesn't mean good writing. Also characters consistently breaking character just to provide such foreshadowing actually makes it worse.
Only if someone can love me as much as Ted Loved Tracy
Bro i love you as a random person. You must first love yourself more than anything.
Love and adore this show but that beach scene with Ted and Robin is so corny the way they shot it (love the concept of it, tho).
Į just finished watching The series and i can say that it iš The best and my favourite series ever į cried like five times in the last few episodes
Thanks to who ever made this
I enjoyed rewatching these scenes. However your analysis was so off point I don’t know what to say. Hindsight is 20/20 but even with it you jump to conclusions that shouldn’t even exist.
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This show got me in the feels SO MANY times!
Robin and Barney divroce its the reasonable, because even though they loved each other they werent mature enough to be a couple. And two people with the same mind will never work, its life. And im happy ted and robin were together in the end just because Ted really loved her even though she didnt deserve the love, care, being always for her, the helping that Ted gave her
You are allowed to have you interpretation/opinion. And i get trying to justify the writers decisions. But it in my opinion and many others....IT WAS ALL A WASTE 4 EVERYONE 2 BASICALLY END UP IN THE EXACT SAME PLACE THE SHOW STARTED
The real foreshadow was when james got married and barney held his nephew and saw robin and ted from afar dancing. 🤷🏾♂️
Barney's abandonment issue goes deeper. He was not only abandoned.by his father, which is utterly incurable, he was also abandoned by his mother.
Sure she grew to be the mother as we know on the show. But she wasn't always like that. She was a groupie who would leave her 10 y o sons at home for a weekend of drugs and orgies with some band.
That's why he was so invested into his relationship with Shannon and his hippie beliefs. Because when you've been abandoned by the most important people in your life, you start looking for the perfect person (in Shannon), and when you can't find happiness in your day to day life, you start imagining there to be some painless heaven (hippie beliefs).
That's why he reacted so drastically to the breakup.
Barney is Literally a character design for comedic purposes you can’t take every he does a sign !
Just because you planned for it to happen, doesn't make it a good decision at all. As a writer, if you're going to waste a WHOLE SEASON on an event that gets rendered moot with a 10-minute voice-over, you've effectively wasted that time. Supernatural, anyone? God knows how that series ran beyond 5 years.
Yeah but unlike supernatural which didn't do it's original plan. This did
Robin and Ted were never supposed to be together. The original ending was supposed to be at Tracy’s funeral, which was too sad and they changed it.
Where did you get that information from? I know they did shoot a funeral scene but that was never supposed to replace the scene of Ted and Robin getting back together. It's just one of several deleted scenes from the finale.
It might have been what you mentioned, just a scene. It has been years since I read about it. I did hate the ending when it came out... now, idk, seems more like life and the hurtles you go through.
nah the ending was just cruel. robin and ted were awful together and you could never really root for them because it was told to us in the first episode that they were not endgame. the show was about finding the mother, ted's future wife so robin and ted was just a brief thing on the way to the real happy ending. if they really wanted them together they should have build it up better. they ended things at the end of season 2, had some normal ex backsliding at the beginning of season 3 and a very brief friends with benefit thing for one episode in season 4 an that was it. and yes ted and barney drunkenly fought over her for one episode in season 5 and even that felt forced on ted's side. pairing her up with barney made total sense because she and ted were way better as friends. her and barney had so much natural chemistry and focusing a whole season on their wedding only to break them up right after is just cruel and pathetic.
Personally the series ended the way it should have. With Ted n Robin happy about the possibility of a future. If I'm being honest the only hurdle for Ted n Robin throughout the whole series was kids. Once Ted has his, as messed up as it sounds Tracy was no longer valid/needed. Sure he care/loved the mother of his kids but he never was into her like Robin. True love endures even good friends doing stupid things in the excuse they are helping you. Lily was the most selfish person in the series. So I'm glad Marshall got his 20 bucks in the end.
Yes! I have the same impression. Ted and Robin broke up because they had different prorities when they were younger but years later Ted doesn't need a women who would like to have their own children and his grown up ones shouldn't bother Robin neither as it isn't the same as getting pregnant and raising their own. I don't see a reason why they wouldn't try to get together again.
8:50 I kinda realized something was going on first time i saw it and damn it’s so sad
When Ted said to Tracy that he would give everything for those extra 45 days i get it, the ending was there.
Also, the vow scene clearly lights up why Barney and Ted so close friends: they are both afraid of changing. Just like in Ted's case is stucking in a loop of bad decisions, Barney constanctly distracted himself from facing the reality (that Marshall said out loud in the Chain of Screaming)
I would never say the ending of HIMYM was bad writing or anything. But after so many seasons of ups and downs, and so many downs in the later seasons, the ending was simply unreasonably sad to me. What shall the viewer take from this ending? Now matter how difficult the road may be, you will always reach a point that is great, and then you will have to carry, but you only can reach a point that is somehow o.k. now? Idk, simply an overkill to me.
Ted is all talk. Barney is actions
Foreshadowing definitely but justify no way
Robin is a confused woman ,ı found her very irritating throughout the series
I'll tell u what happened.. they pushed introducing Tracy for so long the show begun to loose audience and they had to introduce her then kill her so they can fill the dream of Ted being with robin
nobody dreamt that... robin should be with barney... I loved tracy in a few episodes... I hated robin after season 1
Yes, exactly, this is a super cleverly written "sitcom", like nothing before and since, and all these clues went waaaaaaay over a LOT of peoples head!
Its funny that I totally see Heisenberg on Bryan Cranston's character and also totally see Saul Goodman on Bob Odenkirk's character
The only justification of Ted getting back with Robin is Tracy dying, and Ted waiting years after the fact. The show acknowledges that Tracy is Ted's one and only other half.
I agree that Tracy was in many ways a better match for Ted. However, I don't think that means the ending was bad. The writers didn't get Ted and Robin back together because they were a better match. They got them back together to justify why Ted was telling the story the way he was and to dispense with the idea of "the one". Remember, Tracy already had her "one" in Max. So when Ted got back together with Robin, he was doing basically the same thing that Tracy did when she got together with Ted. So if you want to criticise the ending on the basis that Tracy was Ted's "the one", then you would also have to concede that Tracy shouldn't have ended up with Ted because Max was her "the one".
The lesson of the story is that there IS no such thing as 'the one', and that people can have more than one 'love of their life'.
The moral of the story was, Tracy was just consolation prize, when she died he was finally free to do what he always want! Fuck this final
I new the mother would die but when i watched this i thought that ted's mom didn't go to his wedding
I honestly think that Barney’s abandonment issue started with his father leaving him as a kid, and that Sharon amplified that.
just one big thing. did lilly give marshall his money back and pay up herself?
Yep, you can look it up here in RUclips. It was one of the deleted scenes.
Something that was annoying though was that Marshall gave lily the $5 already which means lily just gave Marshall his $5 back
I will never forgive this show for how it ended
I love that whistle song at the game where Ted thinks of the next 20 minutes... i spent so much time looking for it and I never found it
this series set the benchmark for metamodern entertainment
I'm sorry but all these interpretations are very forced, you are suggesting the opposite of what is actually being said and/or implied.
Ted and Robin had a go at the relationship but even after 10 years of knowing each other they still were very different people with different life goals and mindsets. They worked great as friends and even roommates that bickered, but not romantic partners. The only reason Ted keeps holding on to Robin is because he has lost all faith in ever finding true love, so he goes with what's familiar which puts a lot of stress and confusion on Robin.
I think that the writers wanted to create a Ross and Rachel vibe with them but it just backfired when their relationship ran cold for many seasons, while they each met their perfect match Ted with Tracy and Robin with Barney. If those relationships hadn't been so perfect maybe we could have accepted the ending, but it just felt so forced and weird.
I love at 3:23 barney is almost shook that someone could look through his facade of a carefree playboy as he’s used to just ignoring all his problems and having no one truly understand him
The vast vast majority of these were in the last two seasons. That doesn't mean that they didn't toss our 7 years of story.
I probably have watched HIMYM 6 or more times, but I still can't overcome the quick, messy final episode. I don't mind Ted and Robin ending up together. I loved that! I hate the rush though... "I carried that lesson with me and I carried it with me when SHE GOT SICK"... REALLY???!!! It felt and it still feels like they didn't know what to do with the mother. They just had to get rid of her, because five minutes were left and Ted+Robin had to end up together. Considering they spent one season telling the story of one weekend... the final episode feels like "let's finish this crap because I want to go home soon". Unforgivable.
With that point, I kind of agree. The mistake the writers made was not including more flashforwards in Season 9. They already had a plan for what the final episode would look like before they knew there would be a ninth season. I don't think the writers realised just how rushed their planned final episode would be. They actually wrote a number of important scenes that had to be cut for time which shows that they clearly overestimated how much they could fit into two episodes. If they had known all of this going into Season 9, I think they would have taken used Season 9 as a golden opportunity to include many flashforwards so that by the time they got to the finale, they could focus on Ted and Tracy's story leading up to the wedding and then her death. They could then show some scenes of Ted and Robin together in the aftermath of Tracy's death that indicate that a spark may be returning. That way when they get back together in the end it is less of a shock.
@@bendowson3124Have you noticed how Robin's long expanses away from the group always coincided with Robin's fear of losing Ted (as either a friend or a partner) or how the marriage pact, the friends with benefits status were her creation? I also don't find it shocking Robin is a major part of Luke and Penny's lives given that she has on between 3-5 occasions expressed the desire of having children with Ted, something she never did with Kevin or Barney. In "Bad Crazy" all but one of the flash forwards are after Tracy's death and all of which after the divorce.
Robin's major estrangement from the group was when Ted was with Tracy. Therefore it was more a question of when Ted's feelings for Robin would return, as she was doing the work being the new mother for luke and penny, and helping him deal with the loss of Tracy all for selfish reasons I may like to add.
Why don't you do an updated compilation of scenes, as there were quite a few more, (many in the last 3 seasons that justify and/ or foreshadow the ending)?
robin doesn't works with Ted... she hates what he does and has to fake her attitude with him, while she's natural with barney...
8:45 I always understood that as Teds own mother passed away and wouldn’t be able to attend his wedding. But this makes a lot more sense looking back it it I will admit.
Your interpretation does not make sense in the context of the timeline. The wedding was in 2020 and this conversation happened in 2024.
The truth is: Barney did not deserve Robin. The woman who decides she should be with the another man just before the wedding is the biggest red flag. There's a reason we learnt it was best that Stella left Ted. It applies to Robin regardless of ted not running away w her
That's a good point. There is actually quite a strong parallel between Stella and Tony's story and Robin and Ted's story.
Honestly all the explanations pushed me farther in the other direction. If you have to over explain scenes that clearly came across one way to make them say the opposite... the audience isn't in the wrong. The writing is. They let the show flow and it didn't gel with the ending they picked 8 years before they got there. That's the fundamental flaw with this show. That and the horrific season written over one weekend with the awful poetry episode.
What I see the scenes as clearly saying is the opposite of what you see the scenes as clearly saying. That's why I put the notes in because the reason the ending is hated is because so much of the show was misinterpreted. For example, many see the show as demonstrating clearly that Ted and Robin weren't right for each other but that was only because they were biased in their assumption that Ted would end up with the Mother. I'm trying to correct people's biases not create new ones.
Genuinely I think Martial and Lily ruined the ending, they spend 9 seasons playing a bet on who would win about Robin and Ted. There's even a deleted scene where Lily pays Martial up.
I always thought Ted was crying at the whole "what mother misses their kids wedding" thing because I just assumed his own mum was dead by that point and would miss his wedding
Their wedding was four years prior to this conversation, so it is unlikely that Ted would still be upset at the fact that his Mother missed his wedding. Him crying at the fact that Tracy would miss her daughter's wedding makes more sense.
@@bendowson3124 not gonna lie, not a fan of the foreshadowing how you mention it...but yeah, that moment with Tracy was indicating something bad for her ...it really made me sad at the time (watching it many years ago)
my biggest problem with HIMYM was how the blue french horn stealing was made into this iconic moment of like "true love" it was done out of the blue on a girl he had a crush with, i mean talk about a load of crap.. with all of the decent relationships Ted had with the girls over the seasons they were more flushed out it wasn't just the one act of randomness that keeps getting thrown back into your face.
yes it was obvious from the beginning of their relationship that they were going to end up back together again and through each season they kept laying it on thick, but the actual ending of how they ended up together was utter crap. Tracy was essentially there purely to be the mother of Ted's children, like some kind of cow to give birth to calf to only then get slaughtered and turned into hamburgers.
the ending was shit, if you enjoyed it, well good on you but it most certainly wasn't a "good" ending from an actual story ending perspective, TBBT had a similar problem with our the final season ended.
These Videos make me think that the one who made them got into a argument about the ending and lost because they couldn't recall the scenes and got petty xD
I think it’s so unfair only blaming Robin for the divorce, Barney should also be blamed for that
ted and robin not as cute as Ross and Rachel.
There is something about Robin that makes me not care who she ends up with.
Ross and rachel are the worst couple ever, Ross is the most unstable, insecure, self-centered and jealous character of the whole show, not to mention that Ross treats Rachel badly, telling her that she is not intelligent or that she does not know how to do things alone, Ross is Rachel's most toxic couple until the point that he prevents her from going to Paris to have her dream job
@@eduardosala797 look there is true love and then there is epic love, what Chandler and monica had that was true love.. Yeah they started as a friends but later.. It turned into love between two friends... But in the case of ross and rachel it was more kind of selfish love which is more kind of epic love with all the hardships...
Let me give one more example..In the Vampire diaries, stefan and elena that was pure... But damon and elena that was epic with all the selfishness ...damon was bad for her but their love was epic
@@shashanksrivastava1226 i understand there is a lot of diferents ways of love, but we have to admit that the relationship between Ross and Rachel is toxic for her, Ross always try to manipulate her, trying to convince her to do what he likes and telling her what's good or wrong for her instead of let her make their own decisions, I'm sorry but if that's "epic" love, when someone can control the life and the decisions of other people, I dont want that kind of relationship ever
@@eduardosala797 you're acting like Rachel wasn't toxic too. She's the worst character in the show. She's just as selfish, if not more. If it doesn't work for her, in her favor or can't be controlled she throws a hissy fit. Perfect example, she only wanted Ross when he was with other people, going out of her way to make sure Ross knew she had feelings for him when he never did that to her. He let her be happy with other people, but she always came crying and whining about how "he needs to know how I feel" when he was happy with other girls. When he was insecure, which every single person is, she told him to "get over it" that's not what being in a relationship is. It's about nurturing and encouraging each other. When she broke up with him, yes broke up, she blamed him for "cheating" when she clearly told Monica they broke up. And when she went to his place the next day she said "can I be your girlfriend again?" meaning she wasn't. But she still threw a hissy fit that she left him and he slept with someone else. Rachel had a lot of character development. But she's still the worst character.
I think it's not coincidence that Ted letting go of Robin is represented as her ascending to heaven. He's in his mind trying to equate letting her go with letting Tracy go. the difference is of course that Robin isn't dead, so she wasn't gone forever. The end of the show is his kids making him finally learn the lessons he was clearly teaching them and failing to fully grasp himself.
Part 3 is like my happiness in life. It's not there
I didn't mind the ending, i just wish they'd spent less time following Robin and Barney for an entire season (esp when it doesn't amount to anything) and more time showing Ted and Tracey happily together so we could bask in their perfect chemistry.
Hey i had the same idea,glad to see you did this.
There should be a show.....Me and Your Mother....The story of Ted and Tracy....
I am so sorry. I am team Ted and Tracy, Barney and Robin! I am not gonna buy this whole Ted and Robin thing .. nope!
scene 1. i don't think there is any doubt that ted still loves robin I don't think any person would deny that
scene 2. seriously what does this have to do with the ending (you have a strange obsession with barney's internal struggles when they have nothing to do with the ending), yeah I still agree with that but surely a part of barney's arc would be finding somebody new who was special to him (also barney didn't mess that up but whatever)
scene 3. I mean sure people can change their mind but not about everything, how is it this hard to get relationships are a two way thing like just cause ted loves robin doesn't mean robin loves ted, I'm sorry but what like this isn't symbolism it's what it says on the tin ted can always move back to Chicago thus justifying why he could move their in later seasons (seriously become and english teacher), okay but he doesn't end up doing that in the end so like what is your point here, once again he doesn't let fate decide at the end and really no that wasn't a good decision because if it wasn't for a load of bs barney and robin would've stuck together
scene 4. no I think that's cause he wants a complete family barney was in no way going to cheat on robin if that was the case they would've used cheating to split them up but the creators knew that would be a complete betrayal of his character growth (I mean why they cared when they did the same thing again is beyond me) seriously the marriage line isn't what barney believe or he wouldn't of proposed he just wants a happy complete family and isn't thinking about the consequences it's logical for his character to do that
scene 5. him unlearning the lesson doesn't mean it's false though it just means he forgot it, once again I don't think anyone has denied that during this time ted was in love with robin, well in this case the lesson is wrong and he never truly let robin go I think that was the obvious point of this episode, yeah so I can't believe that you missed this but there's some very obvious symbolism that when he lets robin go she floats off that implies that ted was right once you love someone you can't let them go or the will float off (or in particular him wanting to be in a relationship with robin this is proven in the true finale to the show (ep. 22)), it really should you've just done crazy mental gymnastics, seriously this still makes no sense like ted saying he unlearnt that lesson is in reference to this moment where he let robin go and she never came back the interpretation you had didn't make much sense cause ted was already at peace with it it just hurt him, it is unless you do weird mental gymnastics seriously she floats away from him when helium balloons float away from you do they come back or are you dealing with some new form of helium
scene 6. I do agree that tracy dying was foreshadowed I don't like it but it is the way it is
scene 7. I can already suspect that this is going to completely miss the scene where barney makes his true vow, and yep I was right barney's vows are treated as a joke so as the audience we should treat them that way but more importantly barney chucks out those vows showing his love for robin and making a true unconditional vow it shows character growth, okay this is a bit more fair but I think once again his vow is uncompromising on himself that he will always tell the truth is a knock to him but he still does it cause he knows that's what she needs seriously how do you miss this blatant symbolism and also quick reminder it's a joke, yeah but not really robin goes against what she learned from don about compromising with partners barney did it all for her and still got burned (unless we count the blog which is a showing of lazy writing using the joke devices as a serious reason the break up is stupid
scene 8. yeah cause ted no longer wants to be in a relationship with her anymore you can still love someone and no longer want that, oh yeah he cared so much about that with victoria, I mean they can but that doesn't change the fact it feels forced (but also misses the larger issue with the fact that robin doesn't want kids
scene 9. no it doesn't but the chucking away of the wedding vows is you know this thing we calls symbolism very obvious symbolism at that (don't become an English teacher actually) all those conditional vows he made are being chucked away cause he doesn't believe in those at all anymore and barney and robin didn't split up for either reason you mentioned at least not on barneys end
scene 10. I mean I think he would have told her after like lying in this situation for a short amount of time is genuinely completely reasonable, I mean sure but it could be a healthy happy relationship and still have problems all relationships do
So no ones gonna talk about Barney’s handwriting
I know and they always ridiculed Ted for obsession with calligraphy
in the last episode before the finale, robin says that every time barney says legendary, it means not true.. and at the end of the episode, ted (narrator) says it was legendary