The inside corners are dogboned/T-boned to allow a larger diameter bit to cut the corner. Presumably for one less tool change and faster cutting if the bulk of material removal is done with a slightly larger bit. This probably allows the larger bit to get closer to the front face of the piece and let the a smaller/more precise bit to take the final corners/edges/bevels in one pass (probably after flipping the stock for the top chamfers). The point of the bulk removal passes is to get as close as possible to the final edges and remove as much material as possible--then let the precision bits take a quick finishing pass to get the final corners and edges. Smaller bits are more fragile so the less material left for them to cut the faster they can work. But I work with wood on a large CNC, no experience with machining/metals. Take my assumptions with grain of salt.
Google tells me Brutalism is raw, minimal, style of design that embraces functionality over form or aesthetics, so from that perspective, they should have totally gone with a screws are easily accessible and visible on the back over this screw less design that adds needless complication xD
Finally im not alone with loving g80s and 1800s, we love them in the german community, we got replacement pcbs for them, and theire a cheap source for good ol blacks
I love the Brutal V2 1800 design, as a former G80-1800 / G80-11800 user (my earliest boards like 2 decades ago). It's very much an Ai03 designed board thru and thru, simple and effective with good tolerances. I don't have a modern 1800 so I'm considering picking up one of these eventually since they are an in-stock item, and with my preferred typing angle (5-7 degrees) and front height (20mm and under). IME on other Ai03 boards with 'hidden screws' like the Vega, I had a friend do the same thing with a nic on the top due to the driver proximity. When I got one, I made sure to put some small pieces of masking tape when assembling/disassembling, which is a pain, but it is what it is. I think this assembly style is an Ai03 design choice since it's on some of his other boards, less a CannonKeys one. I'm also in agreement on including extra gaskets with the board or extra plates, since other Ai03 boards had like 3 extra of each size per side. At least CannonKeys sells extras for a reasonable price, and they also offer different material types like silicone. Plus there are weight-sized silicone inserts available to, I assume, mute the board further? Cheers!
Is there a reason the most expensive boards don't have any per-key lighting? I can see why many people don't need it, but to not even have it at this price point is disappointing.
I love 1800 layout for basically everything, but my only problem with it is i use my right thumb for 0 and mistakenly pressing the right arrow when focus on work so just skill issue i guess. Simone please build more big chunky boards.
Screwless done that way maddens me too, Simon. Especially you consider these products arent 'evergreen'. Spares are essentially impossible to get, if not impossible, disproportionately expensive. RIP green top. (One of the many colours of Sharpie may help obfuscate that damage to a very limited degree. Shame it is necessary)
I prefer big boards personally, I would love to see a 1800 Tented Alice come out of the custom keyboard community one day, but I also know that's very niche. The Brutal V2 looks like a good 1800 option, so will have to look into it more! Thanks for the review!
Thanks for reviewing this. The Brutal v2 65% is my daily bort. I like the contrast of the matte-shiny zinc weights against the silver with the visible casting marks. Looks cool for the theme tbh. And you’re exactly right about aluminum plate sound profile with thick PBT.
@@JesusDanielle Love it. I think everything Simon said about the 1800 applies, though the price is perhaps less attractive given the more competitive 65% space. You don’t need foams, but pick up a plastic or FR4 plate in addition to the aluminum. I like it, but it can be higher pitched. FR4 sounds great.
The inside corners are dogboned/T-boned to allow a larger diameter bit to cut the corner. Presumably for one less tool change and faster cutting if the bulk of material removal is done with a slightly larger bit. This probably allows the larger bit to get closer to the front face of the piece and let the a smaller/more precise bit to take the final corners/edges/bevels in one pass (probably after flipping the stock for the top chamfers).
The point of the bulk removal passes is to get as close as possible to the final edges and remove as much material as possible--then let the precision bits take a quick finishing pass to get the final corners and edges. Smaller bits are more fragile so the less material left for them to cut the faster they can work.
But I work with wood on a large CNC, no experience with machining/metals. Take my assumptions with grain of salt.
Yes you're correct, saves both cost and time and it's the same with metal (from a hobbyist that does CNC with both wood and metal).
Google tells me Brutalism is raw, minimal, style of design that embraces functionality over form or aesthetics, so from that perspective, they should have totally gone with a screws are easily accessible and visible on the back over this screw less design that adds needless complication xD
big beautiful man reviews big beautiful keyboard
Finally im not alone with loving g80s and 1800s, we love them in the german community, we got replacement pcbs for them, and theire a cheap source for good ol blacks
1800 is a great layout
Love watching Simon breakdown from screwless designs. I feel the same way.
I love the Brutal V2 1800 design, as a former G80-1800 / G80-11800 user (my earliest boards like 2 decades ago). It's very much an Ai03 designed board thru and thru, simple and effective with good tolerances. I don't have a modern 1800 so I'm considering picking up one of these eventually since they are an in-stock item, and with my preferred typing angle (5-7 degrees) and front height (20mm and under).
IME on other Ai03 boards with 'hidden screws' like the Vega, I had a friend do the same thing with a nic on the top due to the driver proximity. When I got one, I made sure to put some small pieces of masking tape when assembling/disassembling, which is a pain, but it is what it is. I think this assembly style is an Ai03 design choice since it's on some of his other boards, less a CannonKeys one.
I'm also in agreement on including extra gaskets with the board or extra plates, since other Ai03 boards had like 3 extra of each size per side. At least CannonKeys sells extras for a reasonable price, and they also offer different material types like silicone. Plus there are weight-sized silicone inserts available to, I assume, mute the board further?
Cheers!
sick deskmat, where can i get one?
It's a taobao special, we call it bussy brands. I'm sure someone in the discord will have a link
did he say fight me in the Macca's carpark 😅 holy shit this guy is becoming my favourite reviewer
Is there a reason the most expensive boards don't have any per-key lighting? I can see why many people don't need it, but to not even have it at this price point is disappointing.
Because it's tacky and more fitting for lower quality boards.
End of the typing test is my favourite 😂
Brutal review ❤
I love 1800 layout for basically everything, but my only problem with it is i use my right thumb for 0 and mistakenly pressing the right arrow when focus on work so just skill issue i guess.
Simone please build more big chunky boards.
I sometimes press numpad 4 instead of enter 😂
That is one big keybort.
huuuuh TKD cycle 80 and 65 leaks?????
whats the orange switch thats used for the spacebar?
Gateron tangerine from way back when (just a custom milky top)
Screwless done that way maddens me too, Simon. Especially you consider these products arent 'evergreen'. Spares are essentially impossible to get, if not impossible, disproportionately expensive.
RIP green top.
(One of the many colours of Sharpie may help obfuscate that damage to a very limited degree. Shame it is necessary)
Nice vid mate
I prefer big boards personally, I would love to see a 1800 Tented Alice come out of the custom keyboard community one day, but I also know that's very niche. The Brutal V2 looks like a good 1800 option, so will have to look into it more! Thanks for the review!
To stop the risk of scratching with a screwdriver just guide the tip of the screwdriver with your free hand
I got my pop corn im ready for this 1hour of review!
Thanks for great review Mr Simon!
+1 for the algorithm. Thanks for the vid
There’s a cycle 80 coming???
Didn't Canonkeys try out their cast zinc weights in their Bakeneko 65 CNC?
Yep!
not true brutal i see curve sadge
"Comes in with the... buttcheek line" is not a line in neither the Bible nor Quran, but is now a core memory for me.
Thanks for reviewing this. The Brutal v2 65% is my daily bort. I like the contrast of the matte-shiny zinc weights against the silver with the visible casting marks. Looks cool for the theme tbh. And you’re exactly right about aluminum plate sound profile with thick PBT.
how do you like it? i'm considering it
@@JesusDanielle Love it. I think everything Simon said about the 1800 applies, though the price is perhaps less attractive given the more competitive 65% space. You don’t need foams, but pick up a plastic or FR4 plate in addition to the aluminum. I like it, but it can be higher pitched. FR4 sounds great.
Good video Mr. Blacksalmon