Thought about Rika's feats in the culling game arc, but then I remembered that mahoraga was able to throw down with 15 finger sukuna in the shibuya arc...
Yuji who watched all the fights Sukuna took part in, i.e Mahoraga and Jogo thinks that Yuta can beat Sukuna which in other words means Rika is relative to Sukuna. Also Rika has RCT as well overall the videos just disingenuous acting like it’s a stomp one way when we all know it’s a good fight and downplaying any feats Rika has while wanking any feats Sukuna has to then wank Mahoraga for fighting that Sukuna
It’s said in the guide book tho that rika might very well be impossible to exercise I think unlike other curse spirits rika could be revealed to have positive energy as well due to her love for yuta
@@KiyoKami_ reversed cursed technique requires positive energy, and since she can use it without killing herself she might be more immune to it than regular cursed spirit.
I don't think reverse curse energy could protect a cruse from being exorcise. Sukuna has positive curse energy too but he stated had he been any weaker Mahoraga would had killed him.
It's difficult for me to imagine this fight happening without Yuta involved. Yuta being able to copy techniques would make a battle with Mahoraga's adaptation involved really interesting.
That’s what i was thinking, i don’t see how and why Rika would fight without Yuta being involved and the point is to compare them at their strongest anyway so it feels unfair to not allow her awakened form
@@boshlovely2002 Additionally Mahoraga has to be summoned. We know he disapears if the summoner dies, does he also disapear if the summoner is too far away?
@@ivynyan Mahoraga survives and adapts, that's why it would be cool if Yuta copied the adapt ability cuz they'd constantly adapt to each other. I don't think it's possible though, since Yuta would end up like Ryu when Ryu encountered Sukuna.
@@zj2180 you beat it by killing it before it adapts, yeah? Hit it with some insane cursed energy or something and then cursed speech. I think that'd prob do it. If we're adding Sukuna to the equation Yuta is gonna have a much harder time... I was thinking purely mahoraga.
Rika is not a cursed spirit anymore, she is Yuta's "storage." She hasn't been mentioned as a curse since JJK0, and ever since she has only been called an extension of Yuta's technique. Adaption would probably be what makes her lose, but with Yuta, his whole bunch of abilities would destroy Maho
@@junkyyard2273 true, cursed spirits are from fear and phenomena while vengeful are those who have died, but they only differ in origin, as they are still both cursed spirits
@@thunder2275 No she's just not a spirit, she has been a copy of a spirit since she passed on at the end of JJK 0. This means that her powers are immensely limited in the culling games compared to the fight against Geto.
@@ColdHeartYTHer powers themselves are indeed limited but now she functions as a way for Yuta to acsess his copied cts and use them like we saw against Ishigori and Uro. Also I know she is more of a shikigami I was just telling that guy that vengeful spirits are still just cursed spirits
Both still get stomped by Mahoraga together or apart unless your assume that mahoraga can be killed by RCE. Nevertheless there's still more evidence that he can't be killed by RCE.
The fact that mahoraga could have killed sukuna makes it crazy to find out how strong he is with full potential making him probably the strongest character in jjk because if yuji didn’t eat the finger who would know what would have happened
gojo can kill mahoraga easily tho sukuna vs gojo without mahoraga is already pretty close so mahoraga was just the nail in the coffin they can both easily kill them if mahoraga is just alone tho if sukuna didnt save the miracle ct guy then megumi would just die and mahoraga would just disappear
Rika, the Human, is gone, right? Geges writing can be overly vague sometimes. So the human is released in that one scene at the end of the movie, right? And the monstrosity that remains still speaks like her and loves Yuuta but is by no means really concious??
@@muszura6428 she's still a special grade curse spirit, shikagami is geto/kenjaku and Yuki shit. Yuji stated what is this power I can't move, rika feels stronger than a shikagami she feels like a special grade
Both are polar opposites yet quite similar in some ways. Rika allows Yuta to 'sort of' adapt/copy techniques while Mahoraga adapts through countering it's foes curse techniques weaknesses. Offense vs. defense.
Mahoraga’s adaptation is both offensive and defensive. it’s not strictly defensive as we see Mahoraga adapting to infinity and cutting through it. Adaptation is just better than copy
Jujutsu Kaisen 0 has a more primitive power system than Jujutsu Kaisen. Gege has had the chance to add many things after writing JJK 0: complex Cursed Techniques, Domain Expansion, Binding Vows, Black Flash (properly introduced), Domain-based skills, proper Reverse Cursed Technique, CE output, CE feats, enchantments, soul-body connection, etc. All this have added to the complexity of the power system so that CE is not some sort of power-measuring tool that decides who wins against whom. Back then, all Rika needed to be OP was simply a bunch of Cursed Energy. The power system was decided by how much CE you had; that's why in JJK 0 Gojo said he would risk his life exorzicing Rika, whereas in JJK Gojo would never say that, since it wouldn't be much of a challenge for him. Not because Rika is that powerful, but because the Gojo from JJK 0 and the Gojo from JJK have kind of different abilities. They are practically different canons. So in a way, the fact that JJK's power system has evolved from JJK 0 makes Rika (and also Yuta, Panda, Inumaki and Geto) outdated compared to most of JJK character's abilities. Yuta still manages to hold up to this day based on raw power, the added DE and a variety of CTs he has, but that's not enough for the power system of nowadays.
I’m not a fan of telling people how to do their job, but this is how the video should have went @3:41: “First off he has a sword that completely vaporizes cursed spirits. Alright, thanks for watching everybody. Make sure to comment, like, subscribe.” Lmfbo
"Our love, is pure" that fucking hit me super hard. What I love is to love and everything that will stand in your way to love just makes it so much more powerful for me. I have immense respect for love.
What I was thinking is since mahoraga isn’t tamed yet he doesn’t increase in strength at least yet. Because if he were to grow stronger as megumi grows stronger he’d be impossible to exercise. If he’s already stronger than 15 finger sukuna and then he gets stronger with sukuna then nobody can tame him. Ever.
@@TheSteiner12 im pretty sure mahoragas strength isnt based off who summons him, that would make him way stronger than whoever summoned him since megumi summoned him and got bodied by him.
@@TheSteiner12 this makes no sense, because one Mahoraga isn't tamed compared to Nue, divine dogs or elephant. and two Sukuna would need to exorcise it before it can used freely.
@@sin891 There was one though. Rika is no more, and yuta was only absolved of the consequences because rika choose so. In theory, yuta was meant to die and go with her, but herself said not to come early. The rika we see is a copy of her, the last part of her power she left behind for yuta to utilize.
I know this video is from a long time ago, but with the insane power up that pretty much the entire JJK cast got, and given that Yuta was confident to fight Mahoraga and Agito while Sukuna and Gojo was happening, I'd say it is very much close.
"That's A Specialized Blade For Cursed Spirits, The Sword Of Extermination. If I Was A Cursed Spirit, I'd Be A Goner."- Sukuna. (Like That's Said Mahoraga Clearly Wins)
Personally i think Rika is a shikigami & not a cursed spirit anymore. Since rika’s original exorcism the current rika we see is a shikigami, a copy of the cursed spirit rika. This is most likely possible though Yuta’s coping ability in conjunction with the ring as a focal point, the last remanence of rika. Which is why it took yuta some time to create this version of rika. Look at the translation on mangadex instead of the shonen jump one. Chapter 178 “ ‘rika’ is the external storage of cursed techniques and cursed energy that rika left for Okkotsu after she was released” In that same chapter yuta creates a bat like shikigami’s with the new version of rika’s face and combined with dhruv’s technique. This proves that Yuta is able to create Shikigami’s, even if its an extension of a cursed tool.
i think its easy, rika is a cursed spirit when shes at her strongest which is jjk0. Cursed spirits dont have any positive energy. 15 finger sukuna said even at his power if he blocked the same swing from mahoragas blade of extermination he wouldve just died if he was a curse as the positive energy wouldve instantly pulvarized him. Mahoraga cant keep up with sukuna but hes still doing extremely well when we know that adult geto would get torn to shreds physically by that same sukuna and rika could barely beat that geto even with yuta. So mahoraga simply competes with rika then one shots her even if he gets hit with a beam none of them are love amped and would likely get tanked and adapted instantly. Rika and yuta are literally meant to work together so without yuta shes just a walking cursed energy bank with nothing special.
haven't seen a dumber take in ages, "if yuta isnt present she isnt strong", my mans mahoraga has to be summoned by a sorcerer. his existence itself is conditional. if someone has to summon him then ofcourse rika can also have yuta by her side. not to mention no one except sukuna has ever been able to tame mahoraga
I have a theory for jjk, the reason why kenjaku want sukuna to have vessel that cage him is because in the kenjaku can transfer his brain to that vessel so he can use sukuna's power, and he is the big brain he definitely anticipated that sukuna will go in to megumi's body, hence kenjaku not only want sukuna's power and also the ten shadow so that he can beat the six eye, I feel like he have grudge on the six eye because he can never beat them that's why he planned all of this just to beat the six eye.
He doesn't want to kill the six eyes. He said that after killing a six eyes user, another is born. That's why he sealed Gojo in the prison realm. Also, he really doesn't have a need for Sukuna's body because Sukuna's power resides in his fingers. He is a cursed object. If Kenjaku takes the body, he gets Megumi, not Sukuna.
@@Alex-hj2jd not in the case of sukuna resurrecting himself within Megumi's body. If the bath goes correctly, then Megumi becomes replaced by Sukuna and then it is Sukuna's body. Afterwards, Kenjaku could take over.
The Rika I thought we see in the culling arc is weaker then the one in volume 0/the movie. I thought the one in the movie was said to up near sukuna as she was called "the queen of curses" making her supposedly the second strongest cursed technique. She's so strong that the higher ups weren't sure gojo could take her if things got out of hand.
I thought this too. Like something happened to Rika after/during the fight with geto and she got way weaker after. I still don't really think she could beat this dude due to his adapt ability
@@jamesknarr2031 She was exorcised after the fight, the Rika that Yuta has in the Culling Game is just a copy. Not the original so presumably that Rika is weaker than the original as she if formed by just Yuta's cursed energy and not a mix of Yuta's and her own.
@@WeaverOfStars Yuta has infinite cursed energy, oddly enough. Or at the very least he has more than any character thus far in the series has been able to measure, which would mean he at least has more than Gojo and (peak) Sukuna combined. So while the duplicate of Rika may technically be less powerful than the original, that's more to do with Yuta's own skill than the simulated cursed spirit. In theory, it would be basically unstoppable if he were to figure out how to draw upon the absurd amount of cursed energy he has.
Really hope we get a movie or another arc down the road showing the 3 Great Vengeful Spirits. Considering the 3 of them are based off historic figures and Rika's Power they should be top tier. Would be a great way to see the EoS potential of Yuji, Yuta and Megumi. Always liked the theory Tengen cannot commit to battle due to a Binding Vow to keep the 3 GCS contained.
Damm you did good and on straight points where necessary, and also you have considered the theories too, I want you to make video on toji vs sukuna Mahoraga vs sukuna Hakari vs mahorga And Awakened cosmic garo vs mahoraga
toji v sukuna - no diff sukuna mahoraga v sukuna - we already saw tthis hakari vs mahoraga - prolly mahoraga as he would figure out how to counter his immortality garou vs mahoraga - prolly the same as would be with gojo vs mahoraga no? dont know his abilities too well
I’m starting to think mahoraga like sukuna was alive a long time ago and was “collected” into the 10 shadows technique. It’s like someone like “KATANAAA” 😂 got killed and became a curse. A curse built for all battles. Also look at that smile at 5:29 it’s like all that’s left of a personality is having fun.
remember that in his fights in the culling games, Yuta was nerfing himself as to not attract too much attention or reveal all his cards, so his real power is yet to be shown, wouldn't be surprised if he nerfed Rika as well in the proses
that's just your headcanon, wasn't he caught off guard many times by the cockroach spirit, desperate enough to even bite off his lips? i think that was the extent of the potential he could use on his own
@@Okayaahil I know I'm quite late, but there was a reason he bit the cockroach's lips. Yuta or Rika have to consume/bite off a part of something to get their CT. He presumably had Cursed Speech left over from JJK0, or just healed away whatever he took from Inumaki. Rika ate Uro's arm I believe for hers. And him biting/eating the cockroach spirit's lips gave him hair shikigami based on Rika. Even now using modern info, he ate Sukuna's last finger himself to get Cleave. It was literally a tactical decision for him to bite off his opponent's lips. And like other dude said, being caught off-guard means you aren't operating at full capacity because you were literally surprised and overwhelmed by it.
Now we see how is Mahoraga capable of Breaking infinite domain from Gojo is a huge thing to do. Also Mahoraga can adapt to the enemy if it has time to adapt the enemy
To me saying "in this fight there's no Yuta to protect" would be like saying there no technique for Mahoraga to adapt too (I think it would be more fair to make it so that Yuta is unconscious or something and Rika is protecting him)
Rika didn't dissipate when she was punch. Before the punch even connected her duration ran out and became a normal shikigami. Yuta can only summon rika now for a set of duration after he exorcise her
@@luciferefreakingmorningsta7454 there's a prime rika my guy 💀, if you read the manga properly it is stated that rika was freed and the actual rika is justa a copy, a weaker version that stores weapons and extra cursed energy to yuta (also more help as a curse itself) , the real and stronger one we saw her against geto in JJK 0 movie, I'm not riding anything just saying facts lmfao
The only question though (and they mention Rika may not be able to be excercised) would be IF Rika Orimoto's love for Yuta would create positive energy while the curse he place on her due to losing her is creating the negative energy. Gojo said love is the most twisted curse of all. Which could imply that its on the level of Hollow purple, both negative and positive energy.
If mahoraga has the ability to adapt to one of the strongest domain expansion's then yeah I think hes going to be and power house.. Also enjoyed the video.
Yes, even though Mahoraga would one-shot Rika whatever the circumstances are... it's kinda unfair that you present Rika in her base form, if you ever consider Sukuna's version of Mahoraga, you should also consider awakened Rike which is her best form. Mahoraga stills stomps but yeah
@@neucoarcYeah I think because Mahoraga was never tamed the version of him that Megumi summoned in Shibuya is the max power version, his power wasn't based off the summoners yet.
@@neucoarc Yeah, with a Hollow Purple. Meanwhile, Megumi's Mahoraga got destroyed by 15 Finger Sukuna's fodder Fireball jutsu, and then completely one-shot by his Domain Expansion.
Mahraga actually cant go all out because of the seal, a shikigami can only use its full power when the summoner assist them ( they open a seal when spcific skill is used) maharaga on the other hand, knock out his summoner, so it is restricted by the seal and can only use 10℅ of its own power, though the fact that maharaga can attack Megumi means that he's not yet strong enough for maharaga to acknowledge and be his partner in battle
mahoraga is a pure stat check, you only need an ability that can 1 shot him then you 100% win and if you cant you just immediately lose doesnt matter if you have a wide variety of abilities it wont matter if its not enough
Mahoraga would stay the same because it is not tamed by Megumi. It was summoned via a ritual as a way to tame it by defeating it, but it has to be by the summoner so when Sukuna killed it the ritual to tame mahoraga failed.
I agree with most of the video, but Mahoraga's physical strength isn't actually proven by the fact that he punched sukuna in Yuji's body that far. The thing is, Sukuna uses Cursed Energy to guard and protect himself, like yuta himself, or many other sorcerers. And he himself said that mahoraga's attacks nullify any cursed energy due to rtc.
Thats not how that works. Reverse cursed energy attacks can slice through objects made from pure cursed energy such as curses, Shikigami, probably barriers etc like butter. But if you have a normal physical object reinforced with cursed energy like a human sorcerer or cursed tool they dont have any special properties. Thats why sukuna said if I was a curse (ie made purely out of cursed energy) I'd be done for but ended up being fine since he had a physical body reinforced with cursed energy.
@@_-_sinexus_-_ it probably doesn't work against Shikigami like that, because if it did Sukuna would've just done that to instantly kill Mahoraga, since he didn't do that it implies it wouldn't do anything to a shikigami
@@Dell-ol6hb Sure you could be right. I just think Mahoraga is the exeption not the rule here. His power is literally to adapt to anything. Since he always starts a fight of with a positive energy blade he kind of has to already be adapted to positive energy to not damage himself by generating it in his body.
I think you're probably right. But Mahoraga can't even be summoned without a 10 shadows user and is unsummoned if the user dies. So both Yuta and Megumi or some other 10 shadows user would have to be there. So either they're both handicaped, or they're both full power. Also I just had a fantastic idea for how sukuna is going to get taken out. Since Megumis soul was tanking the damage for Mahoraga/Sukuna, he might get pushed to a point where he could die and Sukuna has to do something to save him effectively handicapping himself further.
Even a 2v1(Mahoraga vs both Yuta and Rika), the outcome is still Mahoraga with no-low difficulty and here's why: He was throwing hands with 15 finger sukuna, tanked his domain expansion which would murder Rika and Yuta, has positive energy inside of his "sword of extermination" (completely destroys cursed energy), near instant regeneration, can adapt to even Gojo's Domain as soon as he's summoned, main factor of Sukuna killing Gojo, one shockwave from his slashes can cut down multiple buildings like butter which would also kill Yuta and Rika before they can even react, and speed-wise, Mahoraga outclasses those 2 badly. If Yuta (special-grade sorcerer) and Rika (formerly known as the "Queen of Curses" , also special-grade) were struggling with a Grade 1 level sorcerer (Ryu), then what makes anyone think that Mahoraga would struggle with those 2? With basic reading skills and decent eyes, anyone can tell that Mahoraga vs Rika goes to Sukuna's guard dog.
Remember rika wasn’t just a special grade curse , it was a vengeful cursed spirit, so if the logic of yuuji using sukunas powers apply, so does in the case of rika, she maybe is not longer a vengeful cursed spirit, but her powers with yuta together will have a chance agains mahogara
I have a question, Gojo stated a 10 eyes/limitless user was mutually killed by a 10 shadow user. That being said, I seem to remember statements around Mahoraga saying no 10 shadows user has ever mastered him. Is this True? And if it is would that put Mahoraga at a point at which a 10 Shadows user capable of killing someone comparable to pre-RCT gojo can’t kill them, being stronger?
I always just assumed that the mutual ko was from Mahoraga being summoned and neither of them being able to kill it (maybe they were exhausted or something or Mahoraga is just that powerful) It's also very possible that the last eyes/ limitedless user hadn't fully awakened to cursed energy like Gojo and didn't have access to hollow purple or the limitless stamina thing, Gojo is described as an anomaly. But yeah almost 100% sure that Mahoraga is stated to have never been tamed.
@@JottoHearthStone I think I agree with that interpretation it’s backed up by Megumi’s comparison of Toji and Sukuna who was able to defeat Mahoraga while Toji was able to beat a Pre-awakened gojo. Putting them at a higher lever than the battle between the previous 6eyes/10 shadow users Looking at current gojo as vastly more powerful that that I also believe is very consistent. Thanks for the response
Listen those 2 past users aren't on the level of Gojo or Sukuna. But still they were strong as it was 400 years ago, they were on Kashimo level or Ryu which is no joke. They got killed by Mahoraga. But I think there is more. The final Shikigami of Megumi must be Gashadokuro. Gashadokuro has the thing that can kill a RCT Gojo, A youtuber pointed it out and horribly he is related to 10 shadow and hein era. Mahoraga is still great but I think it can't beat Gojo but Gashadokuro defo can.
@@은우1401 I think that’s pretty much consistent w our logic, Gojo is on a different level we’ve not seen anyone access and the previous users of each technique only could possibly scale similar to a pre-awakened gojo. I’m really interested in your theory surrounding the final shikigami of the 10 Shadows and will have to do more research. However, I don’t think it’s ever said Mahoraga was summoned in that fight, we’re just saying the peak of that fight was below Shibuya Sukuna level who was able to defeat Mahoraga which puts him above the 10 shadows user who wasn’t. Honestly simpler than we’re making it out to be.
@JottoCCG probably that, since if ANYONE in the summon ritual dies, all other die That's why sukuna saved that ahole sorcerer He was in the ritual If the 10shadows user made the six eyes part of the ritual and the 10shadows died, six eyes would die mutually
Yuta + Rika vs Mahoraga should be pretty close. Not only does Rika herself get stronger, but Yuta's wide variety of copied techniques makes it so that Mahoraga's adaptation doesn't completely shut him down.
I still side with Mahoraga, but to think Rika would be fighting without Yuta around is wild. She can't exist without Yuta. She is bound to him. So yes she would have her eye open. It would make the fight definitely a lot closer.
There's only one way I could see Rika win. If the negative and positive energy cancels each other out like in math, then you could argue that there wouldn't be enough positive energy to kill Rika because she has unlimited amount of cursed energy. But I don't think we've ever gotten a thorough explanation of how negative and positive energy interacts with each other and no prove that you actually need the same amount of positive energy as negative energy of a cursed spirit to kill it with one hit. But Mahoraga still has his adaption and great strength, so I think it doesn't rly matter, he wins.
Actually from what i remember yuta seemed to think rika can take on mohoraga. But to think you forgot rika can use cursed techniques from others and copy them is crazy. Mohoraga may be a shikigami, but he has cursed techniques as well. Meaning that rika could possibly steal the positive energy blade and mohoragahs adapt ability herself. You make it sound like the sword is a one hit killer for curses but thats not even true. He said he would be a goner bot he would have died. He could have just ment that he could have suffered very heavy damage. So no mahoraga will not win this easy. If not wont win at all.
On the one hand infinite cursed energy and an ability to use multiple techniques on the other hand a reversed curse lined sword that can one shot insane durability and regeneration with nullification technique yeah I don’t know why people think Rika would have a chance. (There’s more stats to say but straight up Rika is a mosquito.)
@@ccluci8848 it does and she isn’t a shikigami she is stated to be a cursed spirit that follows yuta around. She works like a shikigami but she isn’t there’s a difference main difference being she’d be way weaker if she was a shikigami.
I Have some counter points , Love is a form of Positive Energy, the Guide books said Rika might be impossible to exorcise , so she might be revealed to have positive energy unlike other curses cuz she came to be because of Love and gets stronger with Love. even Gojo said it wouldn’t be easy and might have to risk his life to fully exorcise Rika himself. And we also see Rika would literally just disappear if she takes a lot of damage, so that might be another reason she’ll be hard to exorcise. Secondly, Rika is Yutas cursed technique So There’s a possibility Rika might be able to use the copied cursed techniques , Because she’s said to be the storage for those cursed techniques. But we haven’t seen evidence for that yet I still think Mahoraga would win in a one of one fight Tho because his adaptability technique is so broken lol. but it definitely wouldn’t be as easy as the video says it’ll be. Rika would also absolutely be able to throw hands with mahoraga strength wise, she has boundless cursed energy so she should be able to keep up for a while at least, and she can heal from damage pretty fast too. Also I think you massively underestimated Ryu. His strength is no joke, even Yuta with boundless cursed energy says Ryu is tough as fuck, probably more than Yuta himself physically IMO He also has the highest cursed energy output in HISTORY, so yea that huge punch from him to Rika was No joke
If Rika can use copied techniques and is storage for weapons and stuff, it's a valid point to make that a strong enough Rika could just keep throwing new stuff at Mahoraga before it can actually adapt to it. I may also be completely off the mark, but the wheel on its back turns once every time it adapts and negates a technique. Can it keep adapting after a full revolution? If not, using 10 different techniques might leave it vulnerable to subsequent techniques, a feat normally impossible for one sorcerer, but not for Yuta and by extension this Rika.
First of all she can't make a love beam of positive energy because creating positive energy would kill her. Secondly mahoraga has a positive energy blade attached to his hand and he isn't dead positive energy probably doesn't do shit to him. Sukuna didn't even bother to use it and Sukuna could output positive energy and it's not like he was even playing with mahoraga. None of Yuta curse technique has been shown to have the AP to one shot Mahoraga so even if Rika can use it the outcome remains the same 4. Ryu is nothing compared to Sukuna and Gojo. Gojo was talking rubbish in zero IMO his character was retconned as well as Rika's because Kenny says Geto would have defeated both Yuta and Rika even though she was enhanced with a binding vow if Geto hadn't divided his curses. Yuta curse techniques can only be used 1 at a time so using 10 different techniques still gives mahoraga enough time to heal. Yuta was implied to rival Yuji when he uses is reinforcement. Sukuna 1 punched Yuji through a building and Yuji can barely move a nerfed Sukuna with a punch
I don't think Mahoraga will be any different if summon by Sakuna, the other shadow creatures seem to be shaped and formed by the users cursed energy, thus why Nue was gigantic, but Mahoraga seems to be its own entity with its own independent supply of cursed energy that is just stored in the same realm as the other shadows that megumi can summon.
Why r we forgetting the fact that geto said something about yuta still not fully wielding rika and she’s that strong without even using her full power 😅
@@ilovedogs2642Wasn't he wrong about his assumption, he didn't know that the only reason why Rika was that strong was because of yuta. He didn't know yuta made Rika a cursed.
Mahoraga would regenerate as the fight goes, while adapting to the damage he’s receiving…. AND HE’S GETTING STRONGER AS THE FIGHT GOES, LEARNING HIS FOES’ WEAKNESSES AND OVERCOMING THEIR STRENGTHS. What a horrific foe to face
I mean what are shikigami? Living beings made from cursed energy. They literally just are curses that a sorcerer has put a leash on. If you think about it that way Geto is just a particularly powerful shikigami user. So this doesnt really make a difference in this matchup
@@khulmach9662 nah. When Yuji and Megumi first met Megumi was surprised that Yuji could see his demon dogs meaning Shikigami behave like curses in that they are invisible to regular people unless they are in a life or death scenario. Flesh doesnt turn invisible if you dont know cursed energy. Shikigami also cant be made of positive/Reverse cursed energy otherwise all Shikigami would tear through any curse they come across and heal any human that touches them. The only left conclusion is that they're made from cursed energy.
Would be safe to say sukuna can compress mahoraga's size while maintaining it's strength and powers while oncreasing it's speed. Hard to imagine anyone being able to handle 2 sukuna's at once
Let's also take into account that when the real Rika and yuta did their strongest beam against geto. It didn't even vaporize him. It only took his arm and he died from his injury. So even put together their strongest attack couldn't even disintegrate a human body. With mahoraga, you have to destroy its whole body by using an attack It hasn't adapted to yet. Sure It hasn't adapted to that blast from them both but it wouldn't be enough to vaporize it anyway. Plus once it heals then there would be no way to for them actually kill cuz then it would've healed and 100% adapted to everything the pair had.
It was against a full power Uzumaki. People out here being hit by the Special Grade Reading Comprehension Curse. The love beam then went through that Uzumaki and completely vaporised his arm, and only because the aim was off.
As geto said “rikas cursed energy is ever changing” meaning rika is constantly evolving. I don’t think rika would win in a one v one with mahoraga because rika can’t draw out her full power without yuta meaning she can only fight him in her base form which would be a really bad match up not only that mahoraga has the executioners blade which makes things even worse so she might try to put up a fight but mahoraga woudo still win.
the new chapters change the context of this as Yuji is keeping up with a 15 finger Sukuna.... which also puts Yuji comments about him thinking Yuta could kill Sukuna into context(whether it's true or not which it likely isn't.). Yuji was holding back against Yuta but he still didn't want to die but Rika held him down to the point he couldn't move which was base Rika. I think it's more up in the air than you make it out to be.
I hardly call that “keeping up with”. He landed one hit at the end of the chapter for reasons which haven’t been fully explained yet. Before then, Sukuna was still very much stomping
@@levikay1745 I feel like you could use that same logic with Sukuna vs Jogo then. I think there’s an important distinction between keeping up with Sukuna and being allowed to live temporarily by Sukuna. It’s also important to remember that Sukuna wanted to make Yuji suffer for keeping him captive for all that time as well
So basically youre saying the helicopter guy is like special grade, the series makes it clear he's having a rage amp+sukuna playing and being held back by megumi
Comparing Maho's strength to Ryu using Sukuna is a horrible comparison. It was already stated Ryu has the highest CE output in history, even higher than 20 finger Sukuna and Rikka survived attacks against him and even dished attacks back. Her strength and dura should be way higher than Maho, however I do agree with everything else.
@Mookiephone But wouldn't that apply to strength as well? Like Chakra to Naruto or Chi to DBZ? Releasing strength+CE should still be the same thing. Edit- This also applies to Yuji whom is super human before CE and than becomes even more powerful after CE.
@mookiephoneactual in the latest chapter your confirmed wrong as Sukunas output gets nerfed by Megumi his cleave becomes weaker so yeah Cursed output = strength
@@kuzukarma1705his ce was getting nerfed not his strength. The effect of his ct was what was getting weakened and sukuna notices this whilst using cleave.
@@judgemasterneimaz8260 I dont think rika is stronger than mahoraga because rika punch send him around twenty meters but mahoraga attack send sukuna out of curtain. Several characters tanked ryu blast like yuta and uro so I don't think that's a bigger durability feat for rika on other hand mahoraga tanked the strongest domain.
You said Sukuna would have died if he was in his cursed spirit form but that’s where you got it wrong. Sukuna is not a cursed spirit nor does he have a cursed spirit form, so Mahoraga still would have not one shot him.
Team Rika let’s go
Edit: Nvm Rika gets stomped
Rika's getting stompped
@@SixEyes-Satoru Yeahh I sorta just finished the video and realized I was wrong
@@TheEternalFlame57LMAOO
Lol
Lol funny edit
Thought about Rika's feats in the culling game arc, but then I remembered that mahoraga was able to throw down with 15 finger sukuna in the shibuya arc...
Yuji who watched all the fights Sukuna took part in, i.e Mahoraga and Jogo thinks that Yuta can beat Sukuna which in other words means Rika is relative to Sukuna. Also Rika has RCT as well overall the videos just disingenuous acting like it’s a stomp one way when we all know it’s a good fight and downplaying any feats Rika has while wanking any feats Sukuna has to then wank Mahoraga for fighting that Sukuna
He still low diffed mahoraga and also yuta lacks a one shot move other than love shot beam which he needed a heavenly bind to pull off against geto.
@@Dylanfrias24 it still didn't one shot Geto btw no way in hell does it one shot mahoraga
@@emmasongbiaye2205 yeh it was against an Uzimaki
@@Dylanfrias24 it completely overpowered the uzumaki I wouldn't define that as being against the uzumaki and Geto just lost an arm
It’s said in the guide book tho that rika might very well be impossible to exercise I think unlike other curse spirits rika could be revealed to have positive energy as well due to her love for yuta
She does have positive energy output. She was doing healing in JJK 0.
@@heythere1358 that was yuta using reversed cursed technique
@@KiyoKami_ reversed cursed technique requires positive energy, and since she can use it without killing herself she might be more immune to it than regular cursed spirit.
@@reyhands1603 yeah but she may have given it to yuta who turned it into positive energy as it was confirmed that she can refill yuta's cursed energy
I don't think reverse curse energy could protect a cruse from being exorcise. Sukuna has positive curse energy too but he stated had he been any weaker Mahoraga would had killed him.
It's difficult for me to imagine this fight happening without Yuta involved. Yuta being able to copy techniques would make a battle with Mahoraga's adaptation involved really interesting.
That’s what i was thinking, i don’t see how and why Rika would fight without Yuta being involved and the point is to compare them at their strongest anyway so it feels unfair to not allow her awakened form
@@boshlovely2002 Additionally Mahoraga has to be summoned. We know he disapears if the summoner dies, does he also disapear if the summoner is too far away?
@@mynameisdio673 wouldn't copy play a role? What if he used cursed speech on it?
@@ivynyan Mahoraga survives and adapts, that's why it would be cool if Yuta copied the adapt ability cuz they'd constantly adapt to each other. I don't think it's possible though, since Yuta would end up like Ryu when Ryu encountered Sukuna.
@@zj2180 you beat it by killing it before it adapts, yeah? Hit it with some insane cursed energy or something and then cursed speech. I think that'd prob do it. If we're adding Sukuna to the equation Yuta is gonna have a much harder time... I was thinking purely mahoraga.
This is like Pokémon
Yuta : RIKA I CHOOSE YOU
Megumi : MAHORAGA I CHOOSE YOU
yuta with rika would beat mahoraga, but without yuta, rika is getting evaporated in 1 punch
@@shmelzy82Mahoraga is immortal he will not die unless you one shot him
@@Skibiditoiletjxsk Yuta is a special grade, with rika he can kill mahoraga
@@shmelzy82 he has to oneshot mahoraga before he adapts
@@Skibiditoiletjxsk he can
Rika is not a cursed spirit anymore, she is Yuta's "storage." She hasn't been mentioned as a curse since JJK0, and ever since she has only been called an extension of Yuta's technique. Adaption would probably be what makes her lose, but with Yuta, his whole bunch of abilities would destroy Maho
shes not a cursed spirit, but a vengeful one(which gojo states are different from cursed ones)
@@junkyyard2273 true, cursed spirits are from fear and phenomena while vengeful are those who have died, but they only differ in origin, as they are still both cursed spirits
@@thunder2275 No she's just not a spirit, she has been a copy of a spirit since she passed on at the end of JJK 0. This means that her powers are immensely limited in the culling games compared to the fight against Geto.
@@ColdHeartYTHer powers themselves are indeed limited but now she functions as a way for Yuta to acsess his copied cts and use them like we saw against Ishigori and Uro. Also I know she is more of a shikigami I was just telling that guy that vengeful spirits are still just cursed spirits
Nah, I'd adapt.
Yuta + Rika is greater than either individually while both are strong they are incredible together
Wait until sukuna + maho comes
@@Zokalex yuta going to wins
@@oifella sukuna divine dog will eat rika like a pet food
Both still get stomped by Mahoraga together or apart unless your assume that mahoraga can be killed by RCE. Nevertheless there's still more evidence that he can't be killed by RCE.
@@Neo_pixel00 we know why gege is keeping yuta aside so he could clap in the climax
Kinda cool how Toji’s dubbed the sorcerer killer while Megumi has the potential to unlock the ultimate cursed spirit killer.
toji was really so op.....damn
@@shubhammahar6566 blud was too op that the author has him killed
@@zerreinatsu24833 Finger sukuna victim tbh
@@kieranmcginley1262nah u wilin
@@AahilFr no cap
The fact that mahoraga could have killed sukuna makes it crazy to find out how strong he is with full potential making him probably the strongest character in jjk because if yuji didn’t eat the finger who would know what would have happened
gojo can kill mahoraga easily
tho sukuna vs gojo without mahoraga is already pretty close so mahoraga was just the nail in the coffin they can both easily kill them if mahoraga is just alone tho
if sukuna didnt save the miracle ct guy then megumi would just die and mahoraga would just disappear
It's nice to see this video in retrospect with the knowledge that Mahoraga literally did what it just did in recent chapters.
They fr giving the side characters better abilities than yuji dawg 💀
Rika, the Human, is gone, right? Geges writing can be overly vague sometimes. So the human is released in that one scene at the end of the movie, right? And the monstrosity that remains still speaks like her and loves Yuuta but is by no means really concious??
Dey thru dat nigga baki in jjk lol
Who that is?🤔
@@execrisiscoreonearth baki is a anime character foo
@@muszura6428 she's still a special grade curse spirit, shikagami is geto/kenjaku and Yuki shit. Yuji stated what is this power I can't move, rika feels stronger than a shikagami she feels like a special grade
general mahoraga is prime example of what doesn t kill u makes u stronger
Both are polar opposites yet quite similar in some ways. Rika allows Yuta to 'sort of' adapt/copy techniques while Mahoraga adapts through countering it's foes curse techniques weaknesses. Offense vs. defense.
well rika doesnt really give yuta the ability to copy techniques yuta can copy ability without rika i think
Mahoraga’s adaptation is both offensive and defensive. it’s not strictly defensive as we see Mahoraga adapting to infinity and cutting through it. Adaptation is just better than copy
@@ijustsaveda150bucksrika is literally Yuta now because the spirit has gone. What rika now is literally Yutas Cursed technique.
@@Blekkkkkkkkk Copy is Yuta CT she's just a storage
Im pretty mahoraga’s ct is not adaptation but the sword so even if yuta were to be there rika is dead
Jujutsu Kaisen 0 has a more primitive power system than Jujutsu Kaisen. Gege has had the chance to add many things after writing JJK 0: complex Cursed Techniques, Domain Expansion, Binding Vows, Black Flash (properly introduced), Domain-based skills, proper Reverse Cursed Technique, CE output, CE feats, enchantments, soul-body connection, etc. All this have added to the complexity of the power system so that CE is not some sort of power-measuring tool that decides who wins against whom.
Back then, all Rika needed to be OP was simply a bunch of Cursed Energy. The power system was decided by how much CE you had; that's why in JJK 0 Gojo said he would risk his life exorzicing Rika, whereas in JJK Gojo would never say that, since it wouldn't be much of a challenge for him. Not because Rika is that powerful, but because the Gojo from JJK 0 and the Gojo from JJK have kind of different abilities. They are practically different canons.
So in a way, the fact that JJK's power system has evolved from JJK 0 makes Rika (and also Yuta, Panda, Inumaki and Geto) outdated compared to most of JJK character's abilities. Yuta still manages to hold up to this day based on raw power, the added DE and a variety of CTs he has, but that's not enough for the power system of nowadays.
I’m not a fan of telling people how to do their job, but this is how the video should have went @3:41: “First off he has a sword that completely vaporizes cursed spirits. Alright, thanks for watching everybody. Make sure to comment, like, subscribe.” Lmfbo
"Our love, is pure" that fucking hit me super hard. What I love is to love and everything that will stand in your way to love just makes it so much more powerful for me. I have immense respect for love.
What I was thinking is since mahoraga isn’t tamed yet he doesn’t increase in strength at least yet. Because if he were to grow stronger as megumi grows stronger he’d be impossible to exercise. If he’s already stronger than 15 finger sukuna and then he gets stronger with sukuna then nobody can tame him. Ever.
Now that Sukuna took over megumi's body...how strong will Mahoraga be if sukuna summons him????? 🥶🥶
@@TheSteiner12 im pretty sure mahoragas strength isnt based off who summons him, that would make him way stronger than whoever summoned him since megumi summoned him and got bodied by him.
@@4kumetsu its still a shadow from the 10 shadows, so it makes sense that its strength is relative to the CE of the user
Mahoraga isnt made for a 1x1 fight. You can have more people in the ritual when summoning it
@@TheSteiner12 this makes no sense, because one Mahoraga isn't tamed compared to Nue, divine dogs or elephant. and two Sukuna would need to exorcise it before it can used freely.
I think Rika needs to awaken to even fire a blast, the reason that blast against Geto was so strong was because of the condition of Yuta dying
Basically a binding vow
@@ELI-of3ygbinding vows can't be broken without severe consequences, in Yuta's case there were none
@@sin891 nice point, thank you for that
@@sin891 There was one though. Rika is no more, and yuta was only absolved of the consequences because rika choose so. In theory, yuta was meant to die and go with her, but herself said not to come early. The rika we see is a copy of her, the last part of her power she left behind for yuta to utilize.
@@clairelili873 Well it wasn't stated anywhere that it was a binding vow, looked more like a verbal contract.
I know this video is from a long time ago, but with the insane power up that pretty much the entire JJK cast got, and given that Yuta was confident to fight Mahoraga and Agito while Sukuna and Gojo was happening, I'd say it is very much close.
"That's A Specialized Blade For Cursed Spirits, The Sword Of Extermination. If I Was A Cursed Spirit, I'd Be A Goner."- Sukuna.
(Like That's Said Mahoraga Clearly Wins)
Personally i think Rika is a shikigami & not a cursed spirit anymore.
Since rika’s original exorcism the current rika we see is a shikigami, a copy of the cursed spirit rika. This is most likely possible though Yuta’s coping ability in conjunction with the ring as a focal point, the last remanence of rika. Which is why it took yuta some time to create this version of rika.
Look at the translation on mangadex instead of the shonen jump one. Chapter 178 “ ‘rika’ is the external storage of cursed techniques and cursed energy that rika left for Okkotsu after she was released”
In that same chapter yuta creates a bat like shikigami’s with the new version of rika’s face and combined with dhruv’s technique. This proves that Yuta is able to create Shikigami’s, even if its an extension of a cursed tool.
She's made of curse energy
@@rexlapis1075 She is a shikigami, not a curse
@@khulmach9662 exactly, which is why positive energy may affect a shikigami differently compared to curses
So like Yuki with her shikigami?
I like to think she's like the cursed spirit of fear of losing love so she's on the level of the disaster curses
4:02, SUKUNA was NEVER a curse spirit, he was a sorcerer that died and became a cursed object and now he’s a curse object reincarnated
He corrected himself after. He said “if he was a cursed spirit” 4:27
Definitely depends on how u scale 3 fingers Sukuna which is insanely hard too say, personally I think Mahoraga would violate Rika.
violate is crazy 💀
Mahoraga gonna make Rika his bitch
@@stepbro2203😂😂😂😂😂
@@stepbro2203nah thats a different kind of adaptation 💀
i think its easy, rika is a cursed spirit when shes at her strongest which is jjk0. Cursed spirits dont have any positive energy. 15 finger sukuna said even at his power if he blocked the same swing from mahoragas blade of extermination he wouldve just died if he was a curse as the positive energy wouldve instantly pulvarized him. Mahoraga cant keep up with sukuna but hes still doing extremely well when we know that adult geto would get torn to shreds physically by that same sukuna and rika could barely beat that geto even with yuta. So mahoraga simply competes with rika then one shots her even if he gets hit with a beam none of them are love amped and would likely get tanked and adapted instantly. Rika and yuta are literally meant to work together so without yuta shes just a walking cursed energy bank with nothing special.
haven't seen a dumber take in ages, "if yuta isnt present she isnt strong", my mans mahoraga has to be summoned by a sorcerer. his existence itself is conditional. if someone has to summon him then ofcourse rika can also have yuta by her side. not to mention no one except sukuna has ever been able to tame mahoraga
Bro walked through the domain
I have a theory for jjk, the reason why kenjaku want sukuna to have vessel that cage him is because in the kenjaku can transfer his brain to that vessel so he can use sukuna's power, and he is the big brain he definitely anticipated that sukuna will go in to megumi's body, hence kenjaku not only want sukuna's power and also the ten shadow so that he can beat the six eye, I feel like he have grudge on the six eye because he can never beat them that's why he planned all of this just to beat the six eye.
Then,it 's better for you to come out as soon as you can and whip his ass.
He doesn't want to kill the six eyes. He said that after killing a six eyes user, another is born. That's why he sealed Gojo in the prison realm. Also, he really doesn't have a need for Sukuna's body because Sukuna's power resides in his fingers. He is a cursed object. If Kenjaku takes the body, he gets Megumi, not Sukuna.
@@Alex-hj2jd not in the case of sukuna resurrecting himself within Megumi's body. If the bath goes correctly, then Megumi becomes replaced by Sukuna and then it is Sukuna's body. Afterwards, Kenjaku could take over.
@@Alex-hj2jd well even if he wanted to kill gojo he couldn’t 😂 the seal was the only way
@@xylious. that's what I said
The Rika I thought we see in the culling arc is weaker then the one in volume 0/the movie. I thought the one in the movie was said to up near sukuna as she was called "the queen of curses" making her supposedly the second strongest cursed technique. She's so strong that the higher ups weren't sure gojo could take her if things got out of hand.
I thought this too. Like something happened to Rika after/during the fight with geto and she got way weaker after. I still don't really think she could beat this dude due to his adapt ability
@@jamesknarr2031 thats only a copy of rika. The true rika is already exercise by yuta
Yeah? Since the culling arc Rika was just a copy, if I remember correctly. The original Rika was like, gone, free.
@@jamesknarr2031 She was exorcised after the fight, the Rika that Yuta has in the Culling Game is just a copy. Not the original so presumably that Rika is weaker than the original as she if formed by just Yuta's cursed energy and not a mix of Yuta's and her own.
@@WeaverOfStars Yuta has infinite cursed energy, oddly enough. Or at the very least he has more than any character thus far in the series has been able to measure, which would mean he at least has more than Gojo and (peak) Sukuna combined. So while the duplicate of Rika may technically be less powerful than the original, that's more to do with Yuta's own skill than the simulated cursed spirit. In theory, it would be basically unstoppable if he were to figure out how to draw upon the absurd amount of cursed energy he has.
We still waiting for Sukuna to use chimera shadow garden with mahoraga
dude if nue is that much stronger with sukuna mahoraga is gonna be insane
Ong
Should probably put a spoiler man
Yuji kicking his Butt rn 😂
@@npurohit11999988 he got one lick in let’s not get ahead of ourselves💀
Really hope we get a movie or another arc down the road showing the 3 Great Vengeful Spirits. Considering the 3 of them are based off historic figures and Rika's Power they should be top tier. Would be a great way to see the EoS potential of Yuji, Yuta and Megumi. Always liked the theory Tengen cannot commit to battle due to a Binding Vow to keep the 3 GCS contained.
Yip NOT even close!
Rika gets stomped so bad that she would be sent into the afterlife.
😭😭
She would end up in heaven 2.0
No rika wins
@@ofimportance5458are you actually dumb? Mahoraga just tanks and adapts everything she can throw then ends her life
@@ofimportance5458he explained why in the video but stay in denial
hes gonna be monstrous with a much different form
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I just want gojo to come out man😭😭
Honestly bro
@@b.ShotMxtivation nah bro gonna live in there for all eternity
@@yeanahnah2976 for real 😂😂😂. Unless angel or sukuna feels pity for him
@@Neo_pixel00 Nahh there ain't no pity pity stuff in JJK
@@yeanahnah2976ong latest chapters looking more and more like this nigga gonna stay there and become a cursed object himself dawg 💀
Damm you did good and on straight points where necessary, and also you have considered the theories too,
I want you to make video on
toji vs sukuna
Mahoraga vs sukuna
Hakari vs mahorga
And
Awakened cosmic garo vs mahoraga
Bruh toji vs sukuna🗿
toji v sukuna - no diff sukuna
mahoraga v sukuna - we already saw tthis
hakari vs mahoraga - prolly mahoraga as he would figure out how to counter his immortality
garou vs mahoraga - prolly the same as would be with gojo vs mahoraga no? dont know his abilities too well
Why bring garou into this ?
@@j6packboy200 his abilities are enough to put jjk verse into sleep
Cosmic and mahoraga fight is not even close cosmic garou wins he can adapt just like mahoraga and he has gods powers
OK you gotta do this SCP 682 vs Mahoraga❤
682 win no concept of diff
I’m starting to think mahoraga like sukuna was alive a long time ago and was “collected” into the 10 shadows technique.
It’s like someone like “KATANAAA”
😂
got killed and became a curse.
A curse built for all battles.
Also look at that smile at 5:29 it’s like all that’s left of a personality is having fun.
remember that in his fights in the culling games, Yuta was nerfing himself as to not attract too much attention or reveal all his cards, so his real power is yet to be shown, wouldn't be surprised if he nerfed Rika as well in the proses
that's just your headcanon, wasn't he caught off guard many times by the cockroach spirit, desperate enough to even bite off his lips? i think that was the extent of the potential he could use on his own
@@Okayaahilyou literally just proved his point off guard feats don’t indicate being at full strength.
@@Okayaahil I know I'm quite late, but there was a reason he bit the cockroach's lips. Yuta or Rika have to consume/bite off a part of something to get their CT. He presumably had Cursed Speech left over from JJK0, or just healed away whatever he took from Inumaki. Rika ate Uro's arm I believe for hers. And him biting/eating the cockroach spirit's lips gave him hair shikigami based on Rika. Even now using modern info, he ate Sukuna's last finger himself to get Cleave. It was literally a tactical decision for him to bite off his opponent's lips. And like other dude said, being caught off-guard means you aren't operating at full capacity because you were literally surprised and overwhelmed by it.
Now we see how is Mahoraga capable of
Breaking infinite domain from Gojo is a huge thing to do.
Also Mahoraga can adapt to the enemy if it has time to adapt the enemy
4:45 back into what?
To me saying "in this fight there's no Yuta to protect" would be like saying there no technique for Mahoraga to adapt too (I think it would be more fair to make it so that Yuta is unconscious or something and Rika is protecting him)
Rika didn't dissipate when she was punch. Before the punch even connected her duration ran out and became a normal shikigami. Yuta can only summon rika now for a set of duration after he exorcise her
She still get violated badly
@@luciferefreakingmorningsta7454 not prime rika tho
@@cloverml no such things as prime rika mahoraga slams badly stop d riding her cuz it's Yutas ability
@@luciferefreakingmorningsta7454 there's a prime rika my guy 💀, if you read the manga properly it is stated that rika was freed and the actual rika is justa a copy, a weaker version that stores weapons and extra cursed energy to yuta (also more help as a curse itself) , the real and stronger one we saw her against geto in JJK 0 movie, I'm not riding anything just saying facts lmfao
@@cloverml bruh mahoraga beats prime rika but ya not so easily
Nice work. I enjoyed every second of this video.
Thank you!!
The only question though (and they mention Rika may not be able to be excercised) would be IF Rika Orimoto's love for Yuta would create positive energy while the curse he place on her due to losing her is creating the negative energy. Gojo said love is the most twisted curse of all. Which could imply that its on the level of Hollow purple, both negative and positive energy.
If mahoraga has the ability to adapt to one of the strongest domain expansion's then yeah I think hes going to be and power house.. Also enjoyed the video.
this shows how Sukuna would have never won against Gojo without mahoraga
Yes, even though Mahoraga would one-shot Rika whatever the circumstances are... it's kinda unfair that you present Rika in her base form, if you ever consider Sukuna's version of Mahoraga, you should also consider awakened Rike which is her best form. Mahoraga stills stomps but yeah
sukuna's mahoraga is the same as megumi's mahoraga
@@neucoarcYeah I think because Mahoraga was never tamed the version of him that Megumi summoned in Shibuya is the max power version, his power wasn't based off the summoners yet.
@@neucoarc
Megumi's Mahoraga got manhandled by 15 finger Sukuna.
Sukuna's Mahoraga could keep up with Gojo, who in turn was 1v1ning 19 finger Sukuna.
@@CommentPositionInformersukuna saved mahoraga multiple times during that fight, because Gojo could potentially one shot it at anytime
@@neucoarc
Yeah, with a Hollow Purple.
Meanwhile, Megumi's Mahoraga got destroyed by 15 Finger Sukuna's fodder Fireball jutsu, and then completely one-shot by his Domain Expansion.
Mahraga actually cant go all out because of the seal, a shikigami can only use its full power when the summoner assist them ( they open a seal when spcific skill is used) maharaga on the other hand, knock out his summoner, so it is restricted by the seal and can only use 10℅ of its own power, though the fact that maharaga can attack Megumi means that he's not yet strong enough for maharaga to acknowledge and be his partner in battle
Since Rika have feelings I think she will get stronger so she doesn’t lose Yuta by dying
Good analyse
mahoraga is a pure stat check, you only need an ability that can 1 shot him then you 100% win and if you cant you just immediately lose doesnt matter if you have a wide variety of abilities it wont matter if its not enough
Mahoraga would stay the same because it is not tamed by Megumi. It was summoned via a ritual as a way to tame it by defeating it, but it has to be by the summoner so when Sukuna killed it the ritual to tame mahoraga failed.
No, the people locked in the triticale have to kill it and the summoner gets it tamed.
Gr8 video mate, this is the 2nd video Im playing from ur chanel and Im loving it.
Greetings from Bulgaria
you cant just deny one of rikas major abilities in this vs battle
Can’t get over how this man says “BLAST”
I agree with most of the video, but Mahoraga's physical strength isn't actually proven by the fact that he punched sukuna in Yuji's body that far. The thing is, Sukuna uses Cursed Energy to guard and protect himself, like yuta himself, or many other sorcerers. And he himself said that mahoraga's attacks nullify any cursed energy due to rtc.
Thats not how that works. Reverse cursed energy attacks can slice through objects made from pure cursed energy such as curses, Shikigami, probably barriers etc like butter. But if you have a normal physical object reinforced with cursed energy like a human sorcerer or cursed tool they dont have any special properties.
Thats why sukuna said if I was a curse (ie made purely out of cursed energy) I'd be done for but ended up being fine since he had a physical body reinforced with cursed energy.
@@_-_sinexus_-_ it probably doesn't work against Shikigami like that, because if it did Sukuna would've just done that to instantly kill Mahoraga, since he didn't do that it implies it wouldn't do anything to a shikigami
@@Dell-ol6hb Sure you could be right. I just think Mahoraga is the exeption not the rule here. His power is literally to adapt to anything. Since he always starts a fight of with a positive energy blade he kind of has to already be adapted to positive energy to not damage himself by generating it in his body.
I think you're probably right. But Mahoraga can't even be summoned without a 10 shadows user and is unsummoned if the user dies. So both Yuta and Megumi or some other 10 shadows user would have to be there. So either they're both handicaped, or they're both full power.
Also I just had a fantastic idea for how sukuna is going to get taken out. Since Megumis soul was tanking the damage for Mahoraga/Sukuna, he might get pushed to a point where he could die and Sukuna has to do something to save him effectively handicapping himself further.
Even at full power that yuta and rika duo are gonna get blasted to another world by sukuna and mahoraga.
No question asked.😂😂😂
even Gojo and Sukuna is struggling what Rika is going to do 💀
Even a 2v1(Mahoraga vs both Yuta and Rika), the outcome is still Mahoraga with no-low difficulty and here's why:
He was throwing hands with 15 finger sukuna, tanked his domain expansion which would murder Rika and Yuta, has positive energy inside of his "sword of extermination" (completely destroys cursed energy), near instant regeneration, can adapt to even Gojo's Domain as soon as he's summoned, main factor of Sukuna killing Gojo, one shockwave from his slashes can cut down multiple buildings like butter which would also kill Yuta and Rika before they can even react, and speed-wise, Mahoraga outclasses those 2 badly.
If Yuta (special-grade sorcerer) and Rika (formerly known as the "Queen of Curses" , also special-grade) were struggling with a Grade 1 level sorcerer (Ryu), then what makes anyone think that Mahoraga would struggle with those 2? With basic reading skills and decent eyes, anyone can tell that Mahoraga vs Rika goes to Sukuna's guard dog.
Wow, apaka ganda ng video na ito!
Remember rika wasn’t just a special grade curse , it was a vengeful cursed spirit, so if the logic of yuuji using sukunas powers apply, so does in the case of rika, she maybe is not longer a vengeful cursed spirit, but her powers with yuta together will have a chance agains mahogara
SPOILER: even gojo couldnt defeat him so i guess yuta and rika wont have a chance
@@koro8544 I think they were talking about yuta and rika defeating mahoraga, not sukuna
@@koro8544 at the end Gojo even in his death, he exorcised mahoraga
Not even close. Mahoraga one shot @@oofer9190
I have a question, Gojo stated a 10 eyes/limitless user was mutually killed by a 10 shadow user. That being said, I seem to remember statements around Mahoraga saying no 10 shadows user has ever mastered him. Is this True? And if it is would that put Mahoraga at a point at which a 10 Shadows user capable of killing someone comparable to pre-RCT gojo can’t kill them, being stronger?
I always just assumed that the mutual ko was from Mahoraga being summoned and neither of them being able to kill it (maybe they were exhausted or something or Mahoraga is just that powerful)
It's also very possible that the last eyes/ limitedless user hadn't fully awakened to cursed energy like Gojo and didn't have access to hollow purple or the limitless stamina thing, Gojo is described as an anomaly.
But yeah almost 100% sure that Mahoraga is stated to have never been tamed.
@@JottoHearthStone I think I agree with that interpretation it’s backed up by Megumi’s comparison of Toji and Sukuna who was able to defeat Mahoraga while Toji was able to beat a Pre-awakened gojo. Putting them at a higher lever than the battle between the previous 6eyes/10 shadow users Looking at current gojo as vastly more powerful that that I also believe is very consistent. Thanks for the response
Listen those 2 past users aren't on the level of Gojo or Sukuna. But still they were strong as it was 400 years ago, they were on Kashimo level or Ryu which is no joke. They got killed by Mahoraga. But I think there is more. The final Shikigami of Megumi must be Gashadokuro. Gashadokuro has the thing that can kill a RCT Gojo, A youtuber pointed it out and horribly he is related to 10 shadow and hein era. Mahoraga is still great but I think it can't beat Gojo but Gashadokuro defo can.
@@은우1401 I think that’s pretty much consistent w our logic, Gojo is on a different level we’ve not seen anyone access and the previous users of each technique only could possibly scale similar to a pre-awakened gojo. I’m really interested in your theory surrounding the final shikigami of the 10 Shadows and will have to do more research. However, I don’t think it’s ever said Mahoraga was summoned in that fight, we’re just saying the peak of that fight was below Shibuya Sukuna level who was able to defeat Mahoraga which puts him above the 10 shadows user who wasn’t. Honestly simpler than we’re making it out to be.
@JottoCCG probably that, since if ANYONE in the summon ritual dies, all other die
That's why sukuna saved that ahole sorcerer
He was in the ritual
If the 10shadows user made the six eyes part of the ritual and the 10shadows died, six eyes would die mutually
Yuta + Rika vs Mahoraga should be pretty close. Not only does Rika herself get stronger, but Yuta's wide variety of copied techniques makes it so that Mahoraga's adaptation doesn't completely shut him down.
The physical abilities of maho is greater
Spoiler alert. It's not close. Mahoraga is busted
@@chancecarlson2023maharogo belike:oh cool! *Fucking adapt*
@@chancecarlson2023Thats the fun part, Mahoraga can adapt to Yuta and Yuta can be severely injured in which Rika would just one shot Mahoraga!
I still side with Mahoraga, but to think Rika would be fighting without Yuta around is wild. She can't exist without Yuta. She is bound to him. So yes she would have her eye open. It would make the fight definitely a lot closer.
big raga the opp stopa
There's only one way I could see Rika win. If the negative and positive energy cancels each other out like in math, then you could argue that there wouldn't be enough positive energy to kill Rika because she has unlimited amount of cursed energy. But I don't think we've ever gotten a thorough explanation of how negative and positive energy interacts with each other and no prove that you actually need the same amount of positive energy as negative energy of a cursed spirit to kill it with one hit. But Mahoraga still has his adaption and great strength, so I think it doesn't rly matter, he wins.
Actually from what i remember yuta seemed to think rika can take on mohoraga. But to think you forgot rika can use cursed techniques from others and copy them is crazy. Mohoraga may be a shikigami, but he has cursed techniques as well. Meaning that rika could possibly steal the positive energy blade and mohoragahs adapt ability herself. You make it sound like the sword is a one hit killer for curses but thats not even true. He said he would be a goner bot he would have died. He could have just ment that he could have suffered very heavy damage. So no mahoraga will not win this easy. If not wont win at all.
On the one hand infinite cursed energy and an ability to use multiple techniques on the other hand a reversed curse lined sword that can one shot insane durability and regeneration with nullification technique yeah I don’t know why people think Rika would have a chance.
(There’s more stats to say but straight up Rika is a mosquito.)
Rika is a shikigami positive cursed energy doesn’t effect her like cursed spirit
@@ccluci8848 it does and she isn’t a shikigami she is stated to be a cursed spirit that follows yuta around. She works like a shikigami but she isn’t there’s a difference main difference being she’d be way weaker if she was a shikigami.
@@thepage7135 I feel like Rikka dying will make Yuta stronger.
@@coal159 he will awaken 7 eyes
Mahoraga is a daddy that even strongest: sukuna and Gojo don't want to mess with
Man i wish youtubers would give a brief explanation of the characters their power then disclose who would win and then go into detail about why
I Have some counter points ,
Love is a form of Positive Energy, the Guide books said Rika might be impossible to exorcise , so she might be revealed to have positive energy unlike other curses cuz she came to be because of Love and gets stronger with Love. even Gojo said it wouldn’t be easy and might have to risk his life to fully exorcise Rika himself.
And we also see Rika would literally just disappear if she takes a lot of damage, so that might be another reason she’ll be hard to exorcise.
Secondly,
Rika is Yutas cursed technique
So There’s a possibility Rika might be able to use the copied cursed techniques , Because she’s said to be the storage for those cursed techniques. But we haven’t seen evidence for that yet
I still think Mahoraga would win in a one of one fight Tho because his adaptability technique is so broken lol. but it definitely wouldn’t be as easy as the video says it’ll be.
Rika would also absolutely be able to throw hands with mahoraga strength wise, she has boundless cursed energy so she should be able to keep up for a while at least, and she can heal from damage pretty fast too.
Also I think you massively underestimated Ryu. His strength is no joke, even Yuta with boundless cursed energy says Ryu is tough as fuck, probably more than Yuta himself physically IMO
He also has the highest cursed energy output in HISTORY, so yea that huge punch from him to Rika was No joke
Fr this dude be on something w/ this video
If Rika can use copied techniques and is storage for weapons and stuff, it's a valid point to make that a strong enough Rika could just keep throwing new stuff at Mahoraga before it can actually adapt to it. I may also be completely off the mark, but the wheel on its back turns once every time it adapts and negates a technique. Can it keep adapting after a full revolution? If not, using 10 different techniques might leave it vulnerable to subsequent techniques, a feat normally impossible for one sorcerer, but not for Yuta and by extension this Rika.
First of all she can't make a love beam of positive energy because creating positive energy would kill her. Secondly mahoraga has a positive energy blade attached to his hand and he isn't dead positive energy probably doesn't do shit to him. Sukuna didn't even bother to use it and Sukuna could output positive energy and it's not like he was even playing with mahoraga. None of Yuta curse technique has been shown to have the AP to one shot Mahoraga so even if Rika can use it the outcome remains the same 4. Ryu is nothing compared to Sukuna and Gojo. Gojo was talking rubbish in zero IMO his character was retconned as well as Rika's because Kenny says Geto would have defeated both Yuta and Rika even though she was enhanced with a binding vow if Geto hadn't divided his curses. Yuta curse techniques can only be used 1 at a time so using 10 different techniques still gives mahoraga enough time to heal. Yuta was implied to rival Yuji when he uses is reinforcement. Sukuna 1 punched Yuji through a building and Yuji can barely move a nerfed Sukuna with a punch
Perfect analysis
And sukuna in his perfect form is not a curse spirit 😭
I don't think Mahoraga will be any different if summon by Sakuna, the other shadow creatures seem to be shaped and formed by the users cursed energy, thus why Nue was gigantic, but Mahoraga seems to be its own entity with its own independent supply of cursed energy that is just stored in the same realm as the other shadows that megumi can summon.
Why r we forgetting the fact that geto said something about yuta still not fully wielding rika and she’s that strong without even using her full power 😅
It still doesn’t matter she’ll Get One shot by Mahoraga
@@Xagrou223I don't think anyone one shots her, geto was confident he could change the world if he absorbed her an geto was a very intelligent person
@@ilovedogs2642Wasn't he wrong about his assumption, he didn't know that the only reason why Rika was that strong was because of yuta.
He didn't know yuta made Rika a cursed.
@@deathblood9384 to my knowledge no, gojo didn't realise yuta had so much cursed energy but yuta making her a curse doesn't affect her strength
@@ilovedogs2642she gets one shot, cope
Mahoraga adapting to her grip
WHAT
Mahoraga would regenerate as the fight goes, while adapting to the damage he’s receiving…. AND HE’S GETTING STRONGER AS THE FIGHT GOES, LEARNING HIS FOES’ WEAKNESSES AND OVERCOMING THEIR STRENGTHS. What a horrific foe to face
The new Rika is a Shikigami, not curse
I mean what are shikigami? Living beings made from cursed energy. They literally just are curses that a sorcerer has put a leash on.
If you think about it that way Geto is just a particularly powerful shikigami user.
So this doesnt really make a difference in this matchup
@@_-_sinexus_-_ We do not know what they are made of, other than they can use curse energy
@@khulmach9662 name literally anything else that they could possibly be made of
@@_-_sinexus_-_ Flesh
@@khulmach9662 nah. When Yuji and Megumi first met Megumi was surprised that Yuji could see his demon dogs meaning Shikigami behave like curses in that they are invisible to regular people unless they are in a life or death scenario. Flesh doesnt turn invisible if you dont know cursed energy.
Shikigami also cant be made of positive/Reverse cursed energy otherwise all Shikigami would tear through any curse they come across and heal any human that touches them.
The only left conclusion is that they're made from cursed energy.
This aint even unfair this is a hate crime😂.Mahoraga has been summoned twice now,both times,only being defeated by THE TOP 2 IN THE VERSE.BRUH!
I hope after the recent chapters, you will change this video or edit it or make part 2
1:28 yuta is looking like a menace instead of shy kid
How are Rika's cursed energy blasts weak just because they were called weak by the sorcerer who has the HIGHEST CURSE ENERGY OUTPUT EVER RECORDED!??
Lmao.
Cuz he tanked it no probs
Well clearly sukunas decapitate and cleave just outputted more then he could handle
@@coal159 I can't hate. But we talking about the King of Curses, not a Sorcerer
Would be safe to say sukuna can compress mahoraga's size while maintaining it's strength and powers while oncreasing it's speed. Hard to imagine anyone being able to handle 2 sukuna's at once
Gained my sub
We need a "blast" asmr from you
Let's also take into account that when the real Rika and yuta did their strongest beam against geto. It didn't even vaporize him. It only took his arm and he died from his injury. So even put together their strongest attack couldn't even disintegrate a human body. With mahoraga, you have to destroy its whole body by using an attack It hasn't adapted to yet. Sure It hasn't adapted to that blast from them both but it wouldn't be enough to vaporize it anyway. Plus once it heals then there would be no way to for them actually kill cuz then it would've healed and 100% adapted to everything the pair had.
such a dumbass and idiotic take because the beam clashed with Geto's strongest ability
It was against a full power Uzumaki. People out here being hit by the Special Grade Reading Comprehension Curse. The love beam then went through that Uzumaki and completely vaporised his arm, and only because the aim was off.
Geto didn't die from his injury he would've been fine and escaped had gojo not returned an killed him
This really did not age well LMAOOO
The fact that gojo could 1 hit mahoraga is insane
He hasnt done it yet
@@madhavgadgil9131 now he did
@@chividx1859Into 2 pieces right 😂
dude Mahoraga's main ability is just, 'haha i downloaded your moveset fuck you' (also big Mahoraga would be baller AF)
This kinda makes GOATjo even more impressive.
As geto said “rikas cursed energy is ever changing” meaning rika is constantly evolving. I don’t think rika would win in a one v one with mahoraga because rika can’t draw out her full power without yuta meaning she can only fight him in her base form which would be a really bad match up not only that mahoraga has the executioners blade which makes things even worse so she might try to put up a fight but mahoraga woudo still win.
This is a different rika if he’s talking about the current story.
the new chapters change the context of this as Yuji is keeping up with a 15 finger Sukuna.... which also puts Yuji comments about him thinking Yuta could kill Sukuna into context(whether it's true or not which it likely isn't.). Yuji was holding back against Yuta but he still didn't want to die but Rika held him down to the point he couldn't move which was base Rika. I think it's more up in the air than you make it out to be.
I hardly call that “keeping up with”. He landed one hit at the end of the chapter for reasons which haven’t been fully explained yet. Before then, Sukuna was still very much stomping
@@BigSlappaman If he wasn't keeping up in some semblance he'd just be dead.....
@@levikay1745 I feel like you could use that same logic with Sukuna vs Jogo then. I think there’s an important distinction between keeping up with Sukuna and being allowed to live temporarily by Sukuna. It’s also important to remember that Sukuna wanted to make Yuji suffer for keeping him captive for all that time as well
So basically youre saying the helicopter guy is like special grade, the series makes it clear he's having a rage amp+sukuna playing and being held back by megumi
Damn, This didn’t hold up well 😂
Meguna's Mahoraga might just solo Gojo 🥱
Edit: damn, what a dumbass take 😂😂
Wild take
W take 🍷🗿
Yea…..no that’s not happening buddy
That's such a dum take
@@Cocxy69 how 🤔
Yuta and Rika's relationship: *Lovey dovey.*
Mahoraga and Megumi's relationship: *Megumi getting tossed to the wall.*
Megumi + mahoraga vs Yuta + rika would be perttyt cool (emo×emo)❤
Comparing Maho's strength to Ryu using Sukuna is a horrible comparison. It was already stated Ryu has the highest CE output in history, even higher than 20 finger Sukuna and Rikka survived attacks against him and even dished attacks back. Her strength and dura should be way higher than Maho, however I do agree with everything else.
@Mookiephone But wouldn't that apply to strength as well? Like Chakra to Naruto or Chi to DBZ? Releasing strength+CE should still be the same thing.
Edit- This also applies to Yuji whom is super human before CE and than becomes even more powerful after CE.
@mookiephoneactual in the latest chapter your confirmed wrong as Sukunas output gets nerfed by Megumi his cleave becomes weaker so yeah Cursed output = strength
@@kuzukarma1705his ce was getting nerfed not his strength. The effect of his ct was what was getting weakened and sukuna notices this whilst using cleave.
Absolutely goofy take
@@judgemasterneimaz8260 I dont think rika is stronger than mahoraga because rika punch send him around twenty meters but mahoraga attack send sukuna out of curtain. Several characters tanked ryu blast like yuta and uro so I don't think that's a bigger durability feat for rika on other hand mahoraga tanked the strongest domain.
So many assumptions taken as fact. Not the best video
You said Sukuna would have died if he was in his cursed spirit form but that’s where you got it wrong. Sukuna is not a cursed spirit nor does he have a cursed spirit form, so Mahoraga still would have not one shot him.
Big Raga is the true opp stoppa
2:50 we all know Yuji for his in human strength even though this wouldnt change the outcome the strenght off Rika is underestimated here
Rika: I copy 🌝
Mahoraga: I adapt 🤑🤓
what if rika spawns a cursed speech MEGAPHONE and says "DIE AND vanish out of this existence"
Cursed speech can overcome by power, and "DIE" on cursed speech only works against weaker beings
Verses battle?I was thinking Rika and Mahoraga is doing some sort of epic rap battle 😅😂😅😂