5:20 No other conductor brings out the beauty of the counterpoint in the strings here, incredible attention to detail with regard to the 1st and 2nd violin entries, textures are unbelievably transparent. Celidibache seems to sit back here, forgo conducting for a bit, and simply listen with the rest of us to one of the greatest achievements of the human spirit!
After hearing to the Celibidache's version, I cannot go back and listen to another one. It's both magestic and medidative, I feel like he understood the Bruckner's beauty from within.
nice point about how a masterful conductor pays close heed not just to instrument group entries but also the entries of 1st, 2d, and sometimes 3d & 4th parts within instrument groups. Spot on. I'm just a few hours from attending my weekly wind ensemble rehearsal (alto sax), so I'm already in the "need to be conducted well" frame of mind.
Here is the wonderful work of the one whom everyone mocked, whom everyone corrected, and who believed everyone, and was not angry with anyone. He just wanted some love and understanding. Children's Soul, God's Soul, Anton. My tear for you friend of my soul.
Bruckner was mocked by many in his time, and still today, for the length of his symphonies and the repetition that he wrote. He himself was highly critical of his work and would rewrite his work time and time again. He never really received the acclaim or appreciation at the time of death that he has now, believing that his work still had not been good enough. @@MrCantStopTheRobot
@@DWClassicalMusic thanks. I do like Sergiu celi ...u long to read comments though about each individual musicians experiences! Where might u find that?
J'admire Maître Celibidache, qui sait donner toutes les ampleurs à toutes les oeuvres, et pas de partition... quel signe de supériorité .... Humble ...
I just want to bow down and again. In the finale, what more can I say from the figure of the old master who is exhausted enough to be unable to properly tilt his body!!!! Truly a great artist!!!! He was the greatest conductor never ever again in the human history!!!!!
The adagio of this symphony played by the Berlin Philharmonic conducted by Celibidache. Is the most haunting , melodious ,beautiful music EVER composed. I can imagine Wagner meeting Bruckner in heaven and saying "Danke schoen"
04.09.2024 = 200. Geburtstag von Anton Bruckner. Ich habe mir diese Einspielung mit Celebidache und den Berlinern als Geburtstags-Geschenk gegönnt - auch für mich. Einfach göttlich, vor allem das Adagio - ein Weg in die Sphären zu Gott. Besser geht es nicht. Danke allen Beteiligten und der Größe Celebidaches, dass er die Schmach seiner Nichtwahl überwunden hatte, und Dank an den lieben Gott, dass es Bruckner gab/gibt.
Es increíble como puede Celibidache hacernos sentir todo lo que sentimos ,con esta maravilla de Sinfonía. Pero es que él se compromete hasta las entrañas por descifrar lo que el autor ha querido expresar, hasta lo más recóndito de su alma. Es una sensación tan diferente comparada con la que otros Directores nos entregan, Aquí cada instrumento es único, dice lo que debe decir. El oído de Celibidache es finísimo y capta a toda la orquesta, diferenciando cada sonido, para luego ensamblarlos en un verdadero éxtasis. ¡Salud, Maestro, ya eres inmortal!.
At least once a week I listen to this symphony. The boiling of feelings that it provokes is unique. It is pure poetry turned into music. It is exciting to remember when I have been able to listen to it in a live concert. The Adagio is, in my humble opinion, one of the greatest moments of humanity
beautifully put Alberto. My favorite symphony by any composer, and not an easy choice. Great as the adagio is I love best the opening with the incredible yearning in the cellos, and the feeling of soaring through clouds over mountaintops...and the finale with a similar indescribable feeling of vaulting heavenward.
Il Maestro Celebidache dopo tanti anni di assenza ritorna a dirigere i Berliner Philharmoniker in un concerto straordinario con una formazione leggendaria. Le prove per il concerto sono state documentate nel film "The Triumphant Return" ....Io credo che nessuno potrà mai superarlo....Immenso!
El mejor sinfonista, con su mejor sinfonía y el mejor director de la historia. Y una grandiosa orquesta. La mejor música , una catedral colosal, cuya belleza me costó encontrar. Y ahora es la obra que más me acerca a creer que el ser humano merece la pena.
Quality studio headphones, or a close pro-sumer equivalent (aka "cans") are the only way to go to get that at home immersive experience when the recording is good and the sound engineers did a good job.
Definitely go attend a concert. You won't be sorry. The sound here is mediocre, the headphones don't help much; a good home stereo with the LP or CD source is much better. But a live performance with skillful good conductor takes one to a heaven (albeit for a short while, but the experience is unforgettable).
Celibidache is THE leading reason I love Bruckner's symphonies to this day starting with this symphony being first I heard when he was with the Munich Philharmonic. The Berlin Philharmonic was and still is one of my all time favorite orchestra thanks to here's them growing up sparingly on a local public access channel at the time that would show short classical music clips when I was just starting to absorb classical music. And lucky for me, their were quite a few clips of the BPO being showed. This symphony with my favorite orchestra and one of the great Brucknerian conductors is pretty much a dream come true and I'm soooooooooooooo glad to at hear and see this. Thank you so much for this upload!
When you watch a conductor, pay attention to two things : 1, does the music played by the orchestra sound tied with his / her gestures ? 2, do the musicians look at him regularly ? Nobody can beat Celibidache at that play. He is so clear, and he is really conducting the orchestra. And that is rather unfrequent...
@@AndreyRubtsovRU nobody can give u any advice, who are We to give advices to U, when your "thoutghs" are already above our mental capacity of listening or understanding You ?!
As u can see@listen...here and there are a lot of stupid boys who dare to call themselves composers, conductors ! Maybe is necessary a black hole where all the fakers in classical music deserve to burn quickly, i suppose...
Solo hay que pensar que había en aquella mente privilegiada que llevó a componer algo tan sublime para que un genio supiera leerlo, interpretarlo y transmitirlo. La combinación Bruckner-Celidibache es uno de los grandes momentos de la historia de la música. Podría escucharla tantas veces y jamás me cansaría. A veces este primer movimiento se me hace corto y quisiera que no acabara nunca
In the 1980s, I was living in San Francisco when he gave a performance with the Munich Philharmonic. There was one work on the program: Bruckner Symphony No.4. I "sort of" knew who Celibidache was, but I'd never heard the Fourth Symphony, not even from recordings. It would be an understatement to say it was a stunning performance.
One can hear the music coming together like drops of water...true to his philosophy; The music is articulated at a pace, organically suitable for the human brain; and comprehension.
Celibidache is such an amazing conductor! Sometimes his tempos are very slow but always full of musical expression. The listener is aware of the music structure in a way rarely heard with other conductors. His performances unveil hidden details and the orchestral ensemble is astonishing. He rejected the recording studio but his recorded performances are close to perfection. This reunion with his old orchestra 38 years later will remain as the testamente of a legendary conductor.
Moving to see Celibidache conducting Bruckner's masterpiece with the Berliner Philharmoniker again. In another historical performance, Celibidache conducted the Berliner Philharmoniker; Beethoven's Egmont Ouverture in 1950 in the ruins of the Old Philharmonie in Berlin. Worth seeing too!
I love this recording for the amount of things is possible to study and learn here. Compare with his direction with Muncher Phil... here we see a fight for mutual comprehension, an trial and strive for understandig each other that seems almost lost control, coherence and even unity. Still, they where the best musicians at the moment, and this meeting is - despite all problems - marvelous... thanks for posting it!
'Violas' always brings a chuckle. As long as there are patient ears, understanding the difference between coca cola and red wine, he will have dedicated friends.
Wunderschöne und detaillierte Aufführung dieser großartigen und perfekt komponierten Sinfonie mit seidigen Tönen aller Streichinstrumente, milden Tönen aller Holzblasinstrumente und brillanten Tönen aller Blechblasinstrumente. Der zweite Satz klingt besonders schön und echt tiefempfunden. Der unvergleichliche Dirigent leitet das weltklassige Orchester im möglichst langsamen Tempo und mit perfekt kontrollierter Dynamik. Mehr als wunderbar!
He can keep the tension in the music so it goes always forward . Thanks to the slow tempo you can hear clearly the phrasé and the colours. Sometimes it takes a time to get used to his slow tempi but it is a unique experience indeed. Celibidache said in an interview that he plays as fast as possible but it has to sound ( or something like that) .
Because a slow tempo is worth it if it shows the details and helps the counterpoint to be more appreciated...compare that with Karajan who drowns out half the orchestration.
BEAUTIFULLY SAID!...It's what the man intended...he was the master at extracting every last little nuance out of the score!. Finish violinist, Satu Venska who played all these Bruchner symphonies under Celibidache with the Munich SO, exclaimed "The orchestra could play all these Bruckner Symphonies without the score in front of them "after Celibidache!!!"
Sorry, but the end of the 1st movemant is ruined because the strings are behind the brass one beat. And this for a very long sequence. Typical result of this conductor's unusual beating style.
I must be ignorant for I don't hear what ulrich maier and kimurico mention about the strings and brass being out of synch at the end of the spectacular first movement. Ignorance is bliss, for all I hear, as richard williams and mike dunn note, is a true maestro lingering as long as possible over every heavenly note. Celibidache adores this music and through the medium of the massed forces of the orchestra, we can adore it in the same way. A miracle!
Une merveilleuse et subime interprétation dans laquelle le parti pris de lenteur des tempi se justifie par la révélation du sens philosophique profond de cette musique que, par sa maieutique si personnelle, Célibidache nous restitue sans aucun pathos. Nous sommes ici au-delà de la simple beauté musicale , mais dans une quasi transcendance de l'esprit sur la matière, chant du monde brucknérien s'elèvant avec sérénité jusqu'à son Dieu . Merci M.Célibidache pour le don de ces moments inoubliables, purs joyaux de beauté partagés avec vous qui nous ont si intensément fait vibrer à l'unisson , et pour votre grande leçon de vie , qui fut autant philosophique que musicale ,vécue dans une osmose toute personnelle et si unique dans l'histoire de la musique, du moins en Occident.
RIIGHT Joe!!! Satu Vanska the Finnish Violinist who played with the MSO and now works in Sydney with the ASC, commented that Celibedache schooled the MSO so thoroughly that to this day they could play Bruckner perfectly without the music in front of them!
Concierto histórico. Celibidache regresó a la Filarmónica de Berlín, después de 38 años de ausencia, para realizar este formidable e incomparable concierto en 1992.
Cierto, teniendo en cuenta que pudo haberla dirigido en 1955, después de morir Furtwängler. Sin embargo y al parecer, "las fuerzas" conspiraron para que fuera Karajan y no Celibidache su titular.
Momento histórico. A melhor versão de todos os tempos. Perfeita!!! Agora pode descansar em paz maestro. É a Filarmônica de Berlim como esperou por tantos anos. BRAVO!!!
At 5:14, for some bars, Celibidache stops conducting and goes into a sort of trance. I think that he is not only simply enjoying that musical passage, but he is thinking of how the Berliner Philharmoniker are playing it, corresponding to his vision of music. In his mind, it's like if in that moment he is closing a circle after a whole career. These seconds are moving.
There are conductors who use the podium as an aerobic exercise machine and then there was Celi who was THE master at his art even when he couldn't stand up.
I salute you... From ignorance proceeds knowledge. This is known as Bruckner's 'Wagner' symphony so you might also like Richard Wagner, particularly if you like mythology. I recorded this very performance off BBC Radio 3 in the 90s and it's still my favourite symphony, even above Beethoven's 5th and 6th. Also, I'm not the biggest fan of Mahler (too many grief hounds wailing about the adagio in the 5th), but his 4th symphony is astounding, particularly the final movement with the beautiful solo Der Himmliches Leben (The Heavenly Life).
Celibidache will always be a beacon in the history of orchestral music. He was one of the few conductors who rehearsed an orchestra, so that each player blossomed into a soloist during the performance, with little conductorial prompting.
I'm a Korean. Due to the dizzying news happening in Korea these days, I am in a very bad mood. I have a sound source of Bruckner's 7th Symphony conducted by Karl Böhm, but while looking for another version, I saw a video of Chelibidake and listened to it while having lunch. The performance that seems to endure the sadness that is about to burst is truly a masterpiece.😭 I listen well. 👍👍
Karl Bohm.... Not my favourite at all and Celibidache renowned for saying quite rightly I my opinion that Bohm didn't have an ounce of music in him.... Enjoy this version sir....
"the sadness that is about to burst..." you have indeed listened well! Can't speak to Bohm not having heard it, but I find Celibidache the ultimate Bruckner conductor and this Bruckner's ultimate work. Sublime!
El Adagio es toda una elegía a la memoria del difunto Wagner por Bruckner; desde el clímax hasta la recapitulación es de una expresión sublime de dolor y perdida, no hay mejor interpretación que la de "Cheli". Esta y la Octava de Bruckner en Tokyo, Octubre de 1990, con la Filarmónica de Múnich, son el culmen interpretativo del Campesino que le componía música a Dios. "Mahler busco a Dios, Bruckner lo encontró" -Gunter Wand
Es asombroso lo que demuestra en esta versión superlativa de la séptima sinfonía de Bruckner. Que una misma partitura puede decirnos tanto cuando es debidamente interpretada, como en este caso por la maravillosa batuta de Celibidache que ensayó hasta el cansancio con la BPO después de treinta y ocho años de ausencia, porque él fue Director Titular de la misma, hasta 1954.
En realidad Celibidache fue director titular de la BPO desde 1945 hasta 1952 cuando la retomó Furtwängler, quien falleció el 30 de Noviembre de 1954. Un día antes Celibidache dió su último concierto con la orquesta, ya que al seleccionar su sucesor los músicos designaron a Karajan como director titular y Celi se negó a dirigirla como invitado. Y así fue: tuvo que morirse Karajan en 1989 para que Celi regresara en 1992.
Bruckner, i Berliner e Celibidache, una triade perfetta per questo capolavoro. Solo il nostro Maestro Giulini ha raggiunto vette interpretative come quella che possiamo ascoltare in questa magnifica esecuzione.
How I wish all of Celi's performances were videoed with the cameras focusing on him only. The collection would have provided master classes for all other conductors and students of conducting in conveying the underlying meanings and emotions of a piece of music to the orchestra as well as the audience.
From all the conductor I've heard and collected, Maestro Celibidache *IS* the only conductor who make the slow tempo become *eizigartiges Erlebnis* (one of the kind...). The first 4 minutes Maestro present the 1st Movement, i seem to see an other dimension, it brought me to wet my eyes... It was that beautiful. Btw, i have other conducter on my collection.
Es destacable la labor del manejo de cámaras en la cobertura fílmica, que contribuye a realzar los diversos matices y momentos de la obra de manera magistral. Están hechas con técnica y sentimiento. El director de cámaras revela un gran conocimiento de la sinfonia para entregarnos su "visión" con exquisito arte visual, que sumado al arte sonoro de la orquesta nos brindan un impecable y grandioso viaje musical.
E che dire...conferma di un grande direttore che ha sviluppato con onestà e spettaolarità il grande e mai a sufficienza rionosciuto lascito di questo genio della musica edell'anima...
I read one negative comment but kept reading and many from Hispanic countries were so positive and happy about Bruckner and Celibidache , yes world , this is amazing !
I was amazed at the solemn expression from 24 minutes and 4 seconds. Isn't there a conductor who expressed the last part of the first movement so slowly and philosophically?
To have 52 thumb down it means that we have to do with some novices. They don't know that Bruckner with Celibidache is the most accurate and wonderful interpretation.
Eh...I don't know about that dismissive note regarding "novices." While I can fully appreciate that Celibidache is bringing to bear his interpretation, this is how *most* of his interpretations go, and honestly, the music here (and elsewhere) has a tendency to lose its momentum, missing so much of the big forest for the sake of the trees. No doubt, there were a couple of beautiful sections of this recording, but on the whole, there are man other celebrated, beautiful recordings, including my favorite - Stanislaw Skrowaczewski.
You can't call this performance accurate when the opening is marked minim (half note) = 52 bpm in the score and celibidache barely reaches 30 bpm. While the orchestral sound is heavenly, there is so much loss of momentum and sustain in the musical line. I recommend listening to some performances that manage to keep it moving in a way that actually improves the feeling of sustain. Try the newly remastered Furtwangler performance or - if you can handle the older recording quality - Toscanini.
Heard the Berlin Philharmonic play this at the Festspielhaus in Baden-Baden, early 2024. Absolutely sublime. I've rarerly seen an audience go so crazy.
Mágico, genial, profundo, música de las esferas. Celibidache es único para la comprensión de la obra y darla al mundo. En una ocasión estreché su mano.
5:20 No other conductor brings out the beauty of the counterpoint in the strings here, incredible attention to detail with regard to the 1st and 2nd violin entries, textures are unbelievably transparent. Celidibache seems to sit back here, forgo conducting for a bit, and simply listen with the rest of us to one of the greatest achievements of the human spirit!
Thanks for sharing your impressions with us!
After hearing to the Celibidache's version, I cannot go back and listen to another one. It's both magestic and medidative, I feel like he understood the Bruckner's beauty from within.
spot on and true for the entire symphony, my favorite of Bruckner's by my favorite Bruckner conductor.
Furtwangler
nice point about how a masterful conductor pays close heed not just to instrument group entries but also the entries of 1st, 2d, and sometimes 3d & 4th parts within instrument groups.
Spot on. I'm just a few hours from attending my weekly wind ensemble rehearsal (alto sax), so I'm already in the "need to be conducted well" frame of mind.
Here is the wonderful work of the one whom everyone mocked, whom everyone corrected, and who believed everyone, and was not angry with anyone. He just wanted some love and understanding. Children's Soul, God's Soul, Anton. My tear for you friend of my soul.
❤
@@James-ks7lvexplanation? Something about Brückner?
Bruckner was mocked by many in his time, and still today, for the length of his symphonies and the repetition that he wrote. He himself was highly critical of his work and would rewrite his work time and time again. He never really received the acclaim or appreciation at the time of death that he has now, believing that his work still had not been good enough. @@MrCantStopTheRobot
That’s the contrary. He always thought he was the the best of all and he wasn’t at all
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This is stunning! The Adagio conducted by Celibidache is out of this world!
Absolutely Cristian!
What is an adagio?
Adagio means "at a slow tempo" 😊
@@DWClassicalMusic thanks. I do like Sergiu celi ...u long to read comments though about each individual musicians experiences! Where might u find that?
@@lindaclark9925 in this case, the 2nd movement
Celi回到Berlin ，這時Berliner 發出未所聽到的美聲，每一句都有生命！
Bruckner and Celibidache - a unity. Telling an untold story beyond time and space . Eternal.
Es sublime.... Indescifrable ❤🌈🌍🌟💫🌙
Discovering Bruckner was a revelation in my life, hearing Bruckner performed by Celibidache was a further revalation!
Amin!
Yes!
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That's it!!
Couldn't say it better by myself.
J'admire Maître Celibidache, qui sait donner toutes les ampleurs à toutes les oeuvres, et pas de partition... quel signe de supériorité .... Humble ...
I just want to bow down and again. In the finale, what more can I say from the figure of the old master who is exhausted enough to be unable to properly tilt his body!!!! Truly a great artist!!!! He was the greatest conductor never ever again in the human history!!!!!
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Are you mad?
He loves every note, every second of this music. You can feel this
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The adagio of this symphony played by the Berlin Philharmonic conducted by Celibidache. Is the most haunting ,
melodious ,beautiful music EVER composed. I can imagine Wagner meeting Bruckner in heaven and saying "Danke schoen"
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04.09.2024 = 200. Geburtstag von Anton Bruckner. Ich habe mir diese Einspielung mit Celebidache und den Berlinern als Geburtstags-Geschenk gegönnt - auch für mich.
Einfach göttlich, vor allem das Adagio - ein Weg in die Sphären zu Gott. Besser geht es nicht.
Danke allen Beteiligten und der Größe Celebidaches, dass er die Schmach seiner Nichtwahl überwunden hatte, und Dank an den lieben Gott, dass es Bruckner gab/gibt.
More Celibidache please.
Es increíble como puede Celibidache hacernos sentir todo lo que sentimos ,con esta maravilla de Sinfonía. Pero es que él se compromete hasta las entrañas por descifrar lo que el autor ha querido expresar, hasta lo más recóndito de su alma. Es una sensación tan diferente comparada con la que otros Directores nos entregan, Aquí cada instrumento es único, dice lo que debe decir. El oído de Celibidache es finísimo y capta a toda la orquesta, diferenciando cada sonido, para luego ensamblarlos en un verdadero éxtasis. ¡Salud, Maestro, ya eres inmortal!.
Suscribo cada una de tus palabras.
@@vicentesempere7968 Gracias, estimado Vicente.
El adagio llevado por Celibidache te sume en "un estado sentimental anímico trascendente inaudito".
J.A.Vives. 18-10-2021.
Suscribo lo anterior Dr. Estrada.
Suscribo lo expresado por Dr. Estrada.
At least once a week I listen to this symphony. The boiling of feelings that it provokes is unique. It is pure poetry turned into music. It is exciting to remember when I have been able to listen to it in a live concert. The Adagio is, in my humble opinion, one of the greatest moments of humanity
I disagree. the second movement of the fifth symphony IS!
@@larryprimeau5885 both are
@@manuel2atack They all are .. 😁
Condivido confermo anch'io con lei
beautifully put Alberto. My favorite symphony by any composer, and not an easy choice. Great as the adagio is I love best the opening with the incredible yearning in the cellos, and the feeling of soaring through clouds over mountaintops...and the finale with a similar indescribable feeling of vaulting heavenward.
Beethoven and Bruckner changed my life. This piece and this performance is one of the best! Than you for sharing.
Me too. Beethoven The Prophet, Bruckner The Apostol.
Then take the next step to Wagner, he is on the same level like Bruckner
@@Scotzie69well... than we mustn't leave out Mahler..😁
Il Maestro Celebidache dopo tanti anni di assenza ritorna a dirigere i Berliner Philharmoniker in un concerto straordinario con una formazione leggendaria. Le prove per il concerto sono state documentate nel film "The Triumphant Return" ....Io credo che nessuno potrà mai superarlo....Immenso!
El mejor sinfonista, con su mejor sinfonía y el mejor director de la historia. Y una grandiosa orquesta. La mejor música , una catedral colosal, cuya belleza me costó encontrar. Y ahora es la obra que más me acerca a creer que el ser humano merece la pena.
I get shivers using headphones, I cant imagine how it must be to hear the real thing
Quality studio headphones, or a close pro-sumer equivalent (aka "cans") are the only way to go to get that at home immersive experience when the recording is good and the sound engineers did a good job.
Definitely go attend a concert. You won't be sorry. The sound here is mediocre, the headphones don't help much; a good home stereo with the LP or CD source is much better. But a live performance with skillful good conductor takes one to a heaven (albeit for a short while, but the experience is unforgettable).
Celibidache is THE leading reason I love Bruckner's symphonies to this day starting with this symphony being first I heard when he was with the Munich Philharmonic. The Berlin Philharmonic was and still is one of my all time favorite orchestra thanks to here's them growing up sparingly on a local public access channel at the time that would show short classical music clips when I was just starting to absorb classical music. And lucky for me, their were quite a few clips of the BPO being showed. This symphony with my favorite orchestra and one of the great Brucknerian conductors is pretty much a dream come true and I'm soooooooooooooo glad to at hear and see this. Thank you so much for this upload!
Out of curiosity, what do you think of Karajan with Bruckner in comparison with Celibidache?
All things considered, this performance (and recording) deserves a standing ovation.
When you watch a conductor, pay attention to two things :
1, does the music played by the orchestra sound tied with his / her gestures ?
2, do the musicians look at him regularly ?
Nobody can beat Celibidache at that play. He is so clear, and he is really conducting the orchestra. And that is rather unfrequent...
He is a Genius...A GIFTED CONDUCTOR.
But also you can see the great general who doesn’t seen any of his marchals
@@zvezdinki7998 generally, the world is so poor...
i would start by not listening to your advice.
@@AndreyRubtsovRU nobody can give u any advice, who are We to give advices to U, when your "thoutghs" are already above our mental capacity of listening or understanding You ?!
Oh man, I was in that concert. No words. And where are we now with the culture? Reset, rethink, redo!
As u can see@listen...here and there are a lot of stupid boys who dare to call themselves composers, conductors ! Maybe is necessary a black hole where all the fakers in classical music deserve to burn quickly, i suppose...
Awesome that you had the honor to be alongside the master
Solo hay que pensar que había en aquella mente privilegiada que llevó a componer algo tan sublime para que un genio supiera leerlo, interpretarlo y transmitirlo. La combinación Bruckner-Celidibache es uno de los grandes momentos de la historia de la música. Podría escucharla tantas veces y jamás me cansaría. A veces este primer movimiento se me hace corto y quisiera que no acabara nunca
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@@DWClassicalMusic Is possible translate to the Spanish all the comments?
@@juanantonioherrero5689 yeah, learning spanish.
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In the 1980s, I was living in San Francisco when he gave a performance with the Munich Philharmonic. There was one work on the program: Bruckner Symphony No.4. I "sort of" knew who Celibidache was, but I'd never heard the Fourth Symphony, not even from recordings.
It would be an understatement to say it was a stunning performance.
One can hear the music coming together like drops of water...true to his philosophy; The music is articulated at a pace, organically suitable for the human brain; and comprehension.
Perfectly well put!
any books you could recommend regarding his philosophy?
thanks in advance
Ahhh, Bruckner and Celi... Danke, DW!
Wonderful!! Especially the second movement... goosebumps.. this slow tempo.. i love it
What presence that man had.
Wonderful recording. Celi nailed Bruckner.
Celibidache is such an amazing conductor! Sometimes his tempos are very slow but always full of musical expression. The listener is aware of the music structure in a way rarely heard with other conductors. His performances unveil hidden details and the orchestral ensemble is astonishing. He rejected the recording studio but his recorded performances are close to perfection. This reunion with his old orchestra 38 years later will remain as the testamente of a legendary conductor.
well put!
Soy un Mexicano, profundamente devoto a Bruckner y Celibidache, uno de los acontecimientos más grandes en la historia de la música.
Ya somos dos.
Y tres...👍
Moving to see Celibidache conducting Bruckner's masterpiece with the Berliner Philharmoniker again. In another historical performance, Celibidache conducted the Berliner Philharmoniker; Beethoven's Egmont Ouverture in 1950 in the ruins of the Old Philharmonie in Berlin. Worth seeing too!
At this time, he did not have his typical slow tempo but took it even faster than most conductors.
shame he was such a terrible human being in the way he treated people in his orchestras!
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I love this recording for the amount of things is possible to study and learn here. Compare with his direction with Muncher Phil... here we see a fight for mutual comprehension, an trial and strive for understandig each other that seems almost lost control, coherence and even unity. Still, they where the best musicians at the moment, and this meeting is - despite all problems - marvelous... thanks for posting it!
Hearing Celibidache’s performances of Bruckner never fail to make my body buzz with goosebumps
13:00 Violaaa! Violaaaaaa!!! VIOLAAAAAA!!!!!
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Ahahaha not everybody will understand ;)
'Violas' always brings a chuckle. As long as there are patient ears, understanding the difference between coca cola and red wine, he will have dedicated friends.
Wunderschöne und detaillierte Aufführung dieser großartigen und perfekt komponierten Sinfonie mit seidigen Tönen aller Streichinstrumente, milden Tönen aller Holzblasinstrumente und brillanten Tönen aller Blechblasinstrumente. Der zweite Satz klingt besonders schön und echt tiefempfunden. Der unvergleichliche Dirigent leitet das weltklassige Orchester im möglichst langsamen Tempo und mit perfekt kontrollierter Dynamik. Mehr als wunderbar!
Really legendary performance (aus Celibidache und Berliner Philharmoniker)
When most conductors take a slower tempo in Bruckner, it just sounds plodding and dull. When Celibidache takes a slower tempo it is revelatory.
Because one thing is the speed... and another is the Tempo in music.
He can keep the tension in the music so it goes always forward . Thanks to the slow tempo you can hear clearly the phrasé and the colours.
Sometimes it takes a time to get used to his slow tempi but it is a unique experience indeed.
Celibidache said in an interview that he plays as fast as possible but it has to sound ( or something like that) .
Because a slow tempo is worth it if it shows the details and helps the counterpoint to be more appreciated...compare that with Karajan who drowns out half the orchestration.
Yes. This tempo only works if you can phrase like Celibidache and, as a result, can hold the suspense.
@@Συναισθησις indeed, Karajan listen himself a lot, instead of listening the music, too bad...
Esto es, lo más hermoso que he escuchado a lo largo de mi vida, y el video publicado justo en mi cumpleaños.
Celibadache is such an amazing conduction . Most works he conducted are great interpretations.
The ending of the first movement is exquisite! Because of the slower tempo we are able linger longer in the beautiful notation of Bruckner
BEAUTIFULLY SAID!...It's what the man intended...he was the master at extracting every last little nuance out of the score!. Finish violinist, Satu Venska who played all these Bruchner symphonies under Celibidache with the Munich SO, exclaimed "The orchestra could play all these Bruckner Symphonies without the score in front of them "after Celibidache!!!"
It's not only that, I notice the soaring violins in this part gets a lot of focus here and is not drowned out at all! Just magnificent!
Sorry, but the end of the 1st movemant is ruined because the strings are behind the brass one beat. And this for a very long sequence. Typical result of this conductor's unusual beating style.
@@ulrichmaier8314totalmente correcto, es un detalle difícil, estropea todo el final 👌
I must be ignorant for I don't hear what ulrich maier and kimurico mention about the strings and brass being out of synch at the end of the spectacular first movement. Ignorance is bliss, for all I hear, as richard williams and mike dunn note, is a true maestro lingering as long as possible over every heavenly note. Celibidache adores this music and through the medium of the massed forces of the orchestra, we can adore it in the same way. A miracle!
Une merveilleuse et subime interprétation dans laquelle le parti pris de lenteur des tempi se justifie par la révélation du sens philosophique profond de cette musique que, par sa maieutique si personnelle, Célibidache nous restitue sans aucun pathos.
Nous sommes ici au-delà de la simple beauté musicale , mais dans une quasi transcendance de l'esprit sur la matière, chant du monde brucknérien s'elèvant avec sérénité jusqu'à son Dieu .
Merci M.Célibidache pour le don de ces moments inoubliables, purs joyaux de beauté partagés avec vous qui nous ont si intensément fait vibrer à l'unisson , et pour votre grande leçon de vie , qui fut autant philosophique que musicale ,vécue dans une osmose toute personnelle et si unique dans l'histoire de la musique, du moins en Occident.
Great sound for a 30 years old recording. Thank you !
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Celibidache's pursuit of the truth is so beautiful.
Un viaje místico al mundo sinfónico de Bruckner. Inigualable Celibidache, siempre serás recordado por tus mágicas y profundas interpretaciones.
The greatest Bruckner conductor.
NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT Joe! > God's Composer...God's Conductor...Heavenly Music!
RIIGHT Joe!!! Satu Vanska the Finnish Violinist who played with the MSO and now works in Sydney with the ASC, commented that Celibedache schooled the MSO so thoroughly that to this day they could play Bruckner perfectly without the music in front of them!
(I hope I quoted this stuff correctly!)
yes indeed! and this, the greatest Bruckner symphony.
Concierto histórico. Celibidache regresó a la Filarmónica de Berlín, después de 38 años de ausencia, para realizar este formidable e incomparable concierto en 1992.
Cierto, teniendo en cuenta que pudo haberla dirigido en 1955, después de morir Furtwängler. Sin embargo y al parecer, "las fuerzas" conspiraron para que fuera Karajan y no Celibidache su titular.
Momento histórico. A melhor versão de todos os tempos. Perfeita!!! Agora pode descansar em paz maestro. É a Filarmônica de Berlim como esperou por tantos anos. BRAVO!!!
Es un concierto fantástico!!! Me encanta la cuerda de violoncellos y el sonido que tiene esta orquesta.
Gracias por este gran regalo
One of the best versions ever ! THANK YOU SO MUCH !
absolutely..probably the best
Absolutely! I think is the best!
No wonder, Celebidache conducts. - Heinz
Absolutely the best! He has the ethos of Shubertean heavenly length!
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All the recordings in which Celibidache was involved are historical and superlative.
Have you seen his Brahmsrequiem with the Munich orchestra? Horrible! Tempi, intonation, sound - completely derailed.
At 5:14, for some bars, Celibidache stops conducting and goes into a sort of trance. I think that he is not only simply enjoying that musical passage, but he is thinking of how the Berliner Philharmoniker are playing it, corresponding to his vision of music. In his mind, it's like if in that moment he is closing a circle after a whole career. These seconds are moving.
Following Karajan's principle: "Sometimes you have to stop conducting and let the orchestra play."
I rather think he tries to convey to the orchestra not to put too much intensity into this passage.
He is on record as saying that the existence of Bruckner is a gift from God
@@henrykaspar3634 this is the musical truth, indeed...
Also from 7.30 to 8.00...also from the start to the end...
There are conductors who use the podium as an aerobic exercise machine and then there was Celi who was THE master at his art even when he couldn't stand up.
"There are conductors who use the podium as an aerobic machine" Just like Bernstein!!
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Bruckner, Celibidache, BPO, qué más se puede pedir. Esto es un monumento de la música y de la cultura occidental.
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The wonderfulness of Celibidache’s Bruckner is amazing by an order of magnitude more awesome
I am a proud Japanese Brucknerian
I know nothing but this Music is absolutely ART at the highest level.
Well said Wayne! I absolutely agree with you!
I salute you... From ignorance proceeds knowledge.
This is known as Bruckner's 'Wagner' symphony so you might also like Richard Wagner, particularly if you like mythology.
I recorded this very performance off BBC Radio 3 in the 90s and it's still my favourite symphony, even above Beethoven's 5th and 6th.
Also, I'm not the biggest fan of Mahler (too many grief hounds wailing about the adagio in the 5th), but his 4th symphony is astounding, particularly the final movement with the beautiful solo Der Himmliches Leben (The Heavenly Life).
When I hear the 5th, 6th, 8th, and 9th... the 7th becomes a breath of fresh air in the whole vast landscape of the massive Brucknerian environment.
The most authentic Bruckner!
このテンポで、この安定感・緊張感！！素晴らしい才能同士の廻り合わせ。至福の演奏ですね！！！
Celibidache will always be a beacon in the history of orchestral music. He was one of the few conductors who rehearsed an orchestra, so that each player blossomed into a soloist during the performance, with little conductorial prompting.
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interesting thanks
I'm a Korean. Due to the dizzying news happening in Korea these days, I am in a very bad mood.
I have a sound source of Bruckner's 7th Symphony conducted by Karl Böhm, but while looking for another version,
I saw a video of Chelibidake and listened to it while having lunch.
The performance that seems to endure the sadness that is about to burst is truly a masterpiece.😭
I listen well. 👍👍
Karl Bohm.... Not my favourite at all and Celibidache renowned for saying quite rightly I my opinion that Bohm didn't have an ounce of music in him.... Enjoy this version sir....
"the sadness that is about to burst..." you have indeed listened well! Can't speak to Bohm not having heard it, but I find Celibidache the ultimate Bruckner conductor and this Bruckner's ultimate work. Sublime!
El Adagio es toda una elegía a la memoria del difunto Wagner por Bruckner; desde el clímax hasta la recapitulación es de una expresión sublime de dolor y perdida, no hay mejor interpretación que la de "Cheli". Esta y la Octava de Bruckner en Tokyo, Octubre de 1990, con la Filarmónica de Múnich, son el culmen interpretativo del Campesino que le componía música a Dios.
"Mahler busco a Dios, Bruckner lo encontró" -Gunter Wand
Mahler es Dios
Exactamente! Escribiste lo que yo siento.
The man was not easy to work with, but damn did he ever make an orchestra sound amazing.
tough love makes for great students
Celibidache is a composer, a philosopher who has found the deep meaning of music
Primarily he is a conductor
@jer quake Is !!!! He live in our hearts and dreams ....
@@jakeforrest one of the most musical and intelligent conductors of the world.
Qué maravillosa interpretación. Magnífico tempo. Cómo disfruta el maestro! SUBLIME!!!!
Es asombroso lo que demuestra en esta versión superlativa de la séptima sinfonía de Bruckner. Que una misma partitura puede decirnos tanto cuando es debidamente interpretada, como en este caso por la maravillosa batuta de Celibidache que ensayó hasta el cansancio con la BPO después de treinta y ocho años de ausencia, porque él fue Director Titular de la misma, hasta 1954.
En realidad Celibidache fue director titular de la BPO desde 1945 hasta 1952 cuando la retomó Furtwängler, quien falleció el 30 de Noviembre de 1954. Un día antes Celibidache dió su último concierto con la orquesta, ya que al seleccionar su sucesor los músicos designaron a Karajan como director titular y Celi se negó a dirigirla como invitado. Y así fue: tuvo que morirse Karajan en 1989 para que Celi regresara en 1992.
Bruckner, i Berliner e Celibidache, una triade perfetta per questo capolavoro. Solo il nostro Maestro Giulini ha raggiunto vette interpretative come quella che possiamo ascoltare in questa magnifica esecuzione.
Magnificent, silky and organic...
How I wish all of Celi's performances were videoed with the cameras focusing on him only. The collection would have provided master classes for all other conductors and students of conducting in conveying the underlying meanings and emotions of a piece of music to the orchestra as well as the audience.
Words cannot possibly describe the power of this music!
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are you familiar with the second movement of the fifth? I do agree with you however.
@@larryprimeau5885 the fifth is my favourite symphony of Bruckner- the adagio is sublime.
WOW! Great thanks for uploading this historical performance!
Paradise on Earth
Listening Celi's performance, even Muse will be jealous.
From all the conductor I've heard and collected, Maestro Celibidache *IS* the only conductor who make the slow tempo become *eizigartiges Erlebnis* (one of the kind...). The first 4 minutes Maestro present the 1st Movement, i seem to see an other dimension, it brought me to wet my eyes... It was that beautiful. Btw, i have other conducter on my collection.
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Which other conductor?, Wand, Giulini, Jochum?.
@@Naettingr108it is Günther Wand.
언젠가 우주선을 타고 지구밖으로 나가게된다면 우주선 창문밖의 수많은 별들을 바라보며 듣고싶은 첼리비다케의 브루크너7번 연주. 그의 음악에는 광활한 우주가 담겨있는것같다.
So ist es!
Maravilloso concierto. Estoy descubriendo este maravilloso compositor Antonio Bruckner, tan grande como Wagner!!!
Mu favourite Adagio's version is this by Celi and BPO.
Es destacable la labor del manejo de cámaras en la cobertura fílmica, que contribuye a realzar los diversos matices y momentos de la obra de manera magistral. Están hechas con técnica y sentimiento. El director de cámaras revela un gran conocimiento de la sinfonia para entregarnos su "visión" con exquisito arte visual, que sumado al arte sonoro de la orquesta nos brindan un impecable y grandioso viaje musical.
This is the best performance of a classical piece ever.
The greatest comeback in history.
Please, the extended video's performance, with applause. THX.
Composer , Orchestra and Conductor at One. So sustained and felt. Music.🌿🌾
E che dire...conferma di un grande direttore che ha sviluppato con onestà e spettaolarità il grande e mai a sufficienza rionosciuto lascito di questo genio della musica edell'anima...
참 좋은 영상을 공유해줘서 고맙습니다~()
Thank you very much!
I read one negative comment but kept reading and many from Hispanic countries were so positive and happy about Bruckner and Celibidache , yes world , this is amazing !
1:01:20 and next 3-4 seconds!!!..Only Celibidache knew how to adorne performanse with such gestures !!!
Simplemente, Muchas Gracias por compartir.
Eccezionale direzione eccezionale orchestra ed esecuzione.
I was amazed at the solemn expression from 24 minutes and 4 seconds. Isn't there a conductor who expressed the last part of the first movement so slowly and philosophically?
Unforgettable!!!
Když slyším tuto symfonii ,vypadá svět krásný.diky za nadlidskost
Thank you for explaining the context of this performance. Most welcome & appreciated.
A marvellous performance
Sou um grande admirador das apresentações do maestro Sergiu Celibidache. Se foi muito cedo.
El mejor intérprete de Bruckner por lejos.
To have 52 thumb down it means that we have to do with some novices. They don't know that Bruckner with Celibidache is the most accurate and wonderful interpretation.
They don't have the time to wait for the end
The composer himself would be so moved if he knew.
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Eh...I don't know about that dismissive note regarding "novices." While I can fully appreciate that Celibidache is bringing to bear his interpretation, this is how *most* of his interpretations go, and honestly, the music here (and elsewhere) has a tendency to lose its momentum, missing so much of the big forest for the sake of the trees. No doubt, there were a couple of beautiful sections of this recording, but on the whole, there are man other celebrated, beautiful recordings, including my favorite - Stanislaw Skrowaczewski.
You can't call this performance accurate when the opening is marked minim (half note) = 52 bpm in the score and celibidache barely reaches 30 bpm. While the orchestral sound is heavenly, there is so much loss of momentum and sustain in the musical line. I recommend listening to some performances that manage to keep it moving in a way that actually improves the feeling of sustain. Try the newly remastered Furtwangler performance or - if you can handle the older recording quality - Toscanini.
Heard the Berlin Philharmonic play this at the Festspielhaus in Baden-Baden, early 2024. Absolutely sublime. I've rarerly seen an audience go so crazy.
Bravo! Wonderfully interpretation!
Splendide. Merci mon Dieu, merci à chacun d'entre vous
Mágico, genial, profundo, música de las esferas. Celibidache es único para la comprensión de la obra y darla al mundo. En una ocasión estreché su mano.