Cain's performance definitely made this movie. In fact, it's because he took his role seriously that I believed in Scroog's redemption, to the point that it made me cry. Very well done analysis!
i watched this version the first time a few years ago and it was by far my favorite adaptation of the story. i also could follow the storyline so much better and it was very engaging with how it was structured. i also have been getting into the muppets more and love how this movie was made the detail in all of it does not go unnoticed
If you've seen *"The Man Who Invented Christmas"* then you know Dickens did have a bestie named John Forrester. So Gonzo and Rizzo work perfectly in their roles.
I love this version! However, there is a musical version where Scrooge sings "I Hate People!". I always think of that song when I am out Christmas Shopping.
Caines performance is what made this film. He acted professionally and as if he was working with an all human cast and not with puppets. His Line “Not Tiny Tim!” Always makes me cry. He puts so much emotion and even though we don’t see our hear about Scrooge’s beloved sister or her passing just how he portrays it it makes us feel he had some experience with a family member dying and the heartache associated with such an occurrence. We don’t need the further context because the performance gives us the idea he knows first hand how the Cratches feel in that moment.
many people say the Muppets are "objectively silly" and i think those people are objectively incorrect. because the Muppets aren't puppets. they're *people* with their own personalities, brought to life by Muppeteers, in the same way that *any* character is a person with their own personality, brought to life by their actor. Kermit the Frog played by Jim Henson or Steve Whitmire is no less "real" than Captain Jack Sparrow played by Johnny Depp or Jean-Luc Picard played by Patrick Stewart. Miss Piggy played by Frank Oz is no less "real" than Princess Leia played by Carrie Fisher or Mary Poppins played by Julie Andrews. and in The Muppet Christmas Carol, the Muppets aren't being their silly goofy selves; they're acting in a role, and playing it fairly straight. Gonzo plays Charles Dickens, Kermit plays Bob Cratchit, Piggy plays Emily, Robin plays Tiny Tim, etc, with the same seriousness as any other actor would. and since the Muppets are "real people", the characters they play also become as real as any other character. this movie was actually my introduction to the Muppets, and when i later watch The Muppet Show as an adult, i was genuinely *surprised* by how different the Muppets were from the characters they portrayed in Christmas Carol. even Rizzo, who was allegedly playing as himself in the film, had a different personality on the Muppet Show. so even *he* was acting in a role for Christmas Carol. so no, the Muppets are not "objectively silly." they are serious actors who just happen to be characters that are played by other actors. edited to add: even real people who have acted with the Muppets can back up how "real" they are. nearly everyone who has ever acted alongside the Muppets has the same story: at first they only interact with the Muppeteers, ignoring the Muppets because they're "just puppets." but within mere *days* they almost entirely ignore the Muppeteers and talk directly to the Muppets. because even backstage, behind the scenes, and between takes, the Muppeteers are acting as the Muppets, and the Muppets become the real people.
It is a family tradition since time immemorial to watch this movie on Christmas Eve. I will not have children, but I shall pass it on to the family's children and as many kids as cross my path in life
I like to consider the 2009 movie to be the second best adaptation, not only because of its faithfulness to the source material but also because of how unapologetically dark it is (especially for a Disney film, which Muppet Christmas Carol also is), along with other things.
Garbagey Christmas movies become timeless too. They're played every year, no matter how badly they're made. The Muppets' film, however, is one of the best.
It's definitely the definitive video Christmas Carol. This year, we watched Scrooged and Spirited, and they both pale in comparison. Scrooged is okay, but Bill Murray's performance isn't believable at all. And Spirited takes the millenial meta-humour to a place where I couldn't empathise with anything going on. Both of them try and fail to modernise the tale imo. The Muppet one is as you say, timeless. Everyone feels like a real character, whether they're a muppet or a human. Scrooge especially is played magnificently in such a believable way.
Dickens read the story to live audiences for years. So it’s fitting that Gonzo and Rizzo are part of the story.
Cain's performance definitely made this movie. In fact, it's because he took his role seriously that I believed in Scroog's redemption, to the point that it made me cry. Very well done analysis!
“Light the lamp not the rat!” 🐀 🔥
Bahaha I forgot about this line(s)!
i watched this version the first time a few years ago and it was by far my favorite adaptation of the story. i also could follow the storyline so much better and it was very engaging with how it was structured. i also have been getting into the muppets more and love how this movie was made the detail in all of it does not go unnoticed
If you've seen *"The Man Who Invented Christmas"* then you know Dickens did have a bestie named John Forrester. So Gonzo and Rizzo work perfectly in their roles.
HEAT WAVE!!
OI!!
THIS IS MY ISLAND, IN THE SUN!!
I LOVE THE FACT THAT THE MARLEY CHARACTER IS BROKEN INTO TWO AND STANTLER AND WOLDORF ARE PLAYING THEM , THEY ARE HILARIOUS BUT THE-SCENE SCARED ME
One: No reason to "scream"
Two: Its Waldorf and Statler!
@ My bad I had caps lock on
@ But Waldorf and Statler are mr favs , the scene really scared me I wish he had gotten an extended version
I love this version! However, there is a musical version where Scrooge sings "I Hate People!". I always think of that song when I am out Christmas Shopping.
My three year old loves it and my wife can qoute the movie the whole way through.
These puppets really were able to convey the story's message better by transcending the limits of the human into the realm of ideals.
Caines performance is what made this film. He acted professionally and as if he was working with an all human cast and not with puppets. His Line “Not Tiny Tim!” Always makes me cry. He puts so much emotion and even though we don’t see our hear about Scrooge’s beloved sister or her passing just how he portrays it it makes us feel he had some experience with a family member dying and the heartache associated with such an occurrence. We don’t need the further context because the performance gives us the idea he knows first hand how the Cratches feel in that moment.
many people say the Muppets are "objectively silly" and i think those people are objectively incorrect. because the Muppets aren't puppets. they're *people* with their own personalities, brought to life by Muppeteers, in the same way that *any* character is a person with their own personality, brought to life by their actor.
Kermit the Frog played by Jim Henson or Steve Whitmire is no less "real" than Captain Jack Sparrow played by Johnny Depp or Jean-Luc Picard played by Patrick Stewart. Miss Piggy played by Frank Oz is no less "real" than Princess Leia played by Carrie Fisher or Mary Poppins played by Julie Andrews.
and in The Muppet Christmas Carol, the Muppets aren't being their silly goofy selves; they're acting in a role, and playing it fairly straight.
Gonzo plays Charles Dickens, Kermit plays Bob Cratchit, Piggy plays Emily, Robin plays Tiny Tim, etc, with the same seriousness as any other actor would.
and since the Muppets are "real people", the characters they play also become as real as any other character.
this movie was actually my introduction to the Muppets, and when i later watch The Muppet Show as an adult, i was genuinely *surprised* by how different the Muppets were from the characters they portrayed in Christmas Carol. even Rizzo, who was allegedly playing as himself in the film, had a different personality on the Muppet Show. so even *he* was acting in a role for Christmas Carol.
so no, the Muppets are not "objectively silly." they are serious actors who just happen to be characters that are played by other actors.
edited to add: even real people who have acted with the Muppets can back up how "real" they are. nearly everyone who has ever acted alongside the Muppets has the same story: at first they only interact with the Muppeteers, ignoring the Muppets because they're "just puppets." but within mere *days* they almost entirely ignore the Muppeteers and talk directly to the Muppets. because even backstage, behind the scenes, and between takes, the Muppeteers are acting as the Muppets, and the Muppets become the real people.
The Muppet version is definitely my favorite, followed by the Patrick Stewart version.
Stewart also had a one man play version as well.
2:28 Nah, it's alright. This is culture.
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It is a family tradition since time immemorial to watch this movie on Christmas Eve. I will not have children, but I shall pass it on to the family's children and as many kids as cross my path in life
I like to consider the 2009 movie to be the second best adaptation, not only because of its faithfulness to the source material but also because of how unapologetically dark it is (especially for a Disney film, which Muppet Christmas Carol also is), along with other things.
The reason Stalar and Waldorf are the Marley's is because the actors who protrayed them died two years prior.
Garbagey Christmas movies become timeless too. They're played every year, no matter how badly they're made. The Muppets' film, however, is one of the best.
It's definitely the definitive video Christmas Carol. This year, we watched Scrooged and Spirited, and they both pale in comparison. Scrooged is okay, but Bill Murray's performance isn't believable at all. And Spirited takes the millenial meta-humour to a place where I couldn't empathise with anything going on. Both of them try and fail to modernise the tale imo. The Muppet one is as you say, timeless. Everyone feels like a real character, whether they're a muppet or a human. Scrooge especially is played magnificently in such a believable way.
The muppets version is a lot of fun, but it doesn’t have nearly the emotional gravitas of the George Scott version. Not by a mile.