Eric Weinstein was disappointing
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- I was very frustrated and disappointed with @EricWeinsteinPhD 's behaviour on the @joerogan appearance with Terrence Howard. Despite being extremely intelligent, he exhibited, here, great vanity, arrogance and ignorance. He missed the point of the appearance entirely. Here's why.
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Proof: 1 x 1 = 2. 1 x 1 means 1 group of 1 unit,
just as 2 x 3 means 2 groups of 3 units. 1 group
of 1 unit = 2 entities. It depends on how you want
to count.
We could even include the operator 'x', meaning 'of',
in 1 group of 1 unit. 1 x 1 = 3, since 1 + 1 = 1 =3.
We could even include the addition operators in
1 'unit' + 1 'group' + 1 'x' = 3, so that it all adds to 5;
then we can see we can keep adding addition operators,
that were used to add previous addition operators, so on
and so on, indefinitelly, demonstrating a godel-ian
style incompleteness.
The difference in how numbers are grouped is ignored in
arithmetic, for it doesn't effect their calculations, and if they
did count groups, then 2 x 3 doesn't literally equal 3 x 2. If we
add both the units and the groups, we get 8 doesn't literally
equal 9. Even Weinstein's mention of 'the empty set', is NOT
literally 0, but 1, since the set could also be a countable entity
@@TheDesignProtocol we are Doomed.. really!
I have in the past found Eric to be a bit brash and arrogant, but always coherent. I was surprised to find him be so gentle and understanding of terence.
On the other hand, I never cared for terence as an actor or person, given his average acting skills and his well known history of violnce towards women he’s involved with- something he has admitted to in the past but on JRE referred to as mere “accusations” that were meant to destroy him “by they” because he’s a genius or something.
Within the first 10mins of the first JRE interview he says “I didn’t come into this world like everyone else”… and the delusions of grandeur just keep going from there.
I’m not a mathematician but I know a personality disorder when I see it, and terence howard has massive personality disorders.
He doesn’t argue like a scientist, he keeps bringing up patents which do not equal his theories being proven true.
Frankly I don’t get how there are people upset that he hasn’t been extended EVEN MORE attention and kindness than he already has, especially when he isn’t known for extending that to the many women he has children with.
Thanks for the comment. I definitely, mostly agree. About your feelings about Terrence, especially. "My first memories are from the womb". Get real. However, I do think his ideas about physics need to be shut down CORRECTLY. And here, the very premise is that Terrence's ideas require a different math system. So I was not happy to see Eric simply apply the regular math system to Terrence's ideas. Yes, our current math is very strong and holds up over the centuries, but this podcast was, for fun, to explore something different. Math without "identity". Eric's rudeness (where you and I disagree) squandered that opportunity (I felt). Thanks, friend.
i agree and it was hypocritical, because he did the same thing he criticized of nei,l but much worse and he didn't addressed any of the points to confirm of debunk, when he said something was wrong he didn't explain why as he didn't have time for that,but he did have time to flex all his mathematical knowledge, as well the goo abstract unnecessary advance talking,he is mathematical physicist not an engineer so in a sense what he is claiming Terrance H is doing to physicist he is doing to engineers.
The point of the interview was not to explore Terrence’s views. It was to explain why and how Terrence was wrong to try to correct for the massive amount of disinformation Terrence spewed in the first podcast that Joe couldn’t shut down because he didn’t know enough about math and science to know if Terrence was right about anything.
What Eric failed to do by using absurdly lofty mathematical language and concepts was to dispel the disinformation. Most of the audience couldn’t understand Eric any more than they could understand Terrence and so Eric just relied on his PhD to make people believe him over Terrence.
Anyone who has a good grasp of math and science knows Terrence was wrong and logically incoherent.
Regardless of how you choose to do math, your system of mathematics needs to be logically consistent and Terrence was basically spouting nonsense, not some new way of looking at math.
And there have been plenty of mathematicians outside the mainstream who have brought new ways of thinking about math and been rewarded and recognized for their efforts. But those efforts made sense.
I agree that Eric failed but not because he didn’t embrace Terrence’s ideas. It’s because he was condescending, deliberately pedantic in order to intimidate Terrence, and ultimately failed to address what were very elementary flaws in Terrence’s ideas that could have been communicated to the public in terms they could understand.
They’ve been covered by a bunch of channels in much more comprehensible terms.
If you truly do believe that Terrence was saying something profound about mathematics, I urge you to take some college level math classes. It won’t take you long to see that Terrence was wrong about essentially everything he said and that he has been disqualified on merit, not on his status as an outsider.
This is wrong. Eric stated the goal of the interview himself; to better understand Terrence's ideas.
The problem I have here is that conclusions are being drawn about Terrence and his framework, when Terrence didn't even get the chance to describe them.
So I am disappointed that his "bad" ideas didn't get any sunlight in the presence of Eric. I am also disappointed that his ideas are called "misinformation" (for the same reason).
And the notion that him saying his beliefs is malicious or harmful is absurd to me.
Thank you for that long and good comment! It was interesting.
I know what he SAID the point was but if you’ve heard him on other podcasts talking about it and you know what Eric’s general goals are for society, he would have no interest in trying to understand where Terrence was coming from. Like I said, Terrence was very wrong about pretty much everything he said. Eric knows that and so do the mathematicians and scientists who mocked him.
I don’t think they should have mocked him but it was absolutely their job to set the record straight. Mocking just comes across as elitism in a society that doesn’t really trust experts anymore.
Eric has a friend who runs a RUclips channel who was the one who urged Eric to reach out to Joe. I can’t remember the name of the channel right now but it’s a big channel. The guy who urged Eric to go on Joe Rogan said that the reason he wanted Eric to go on the show was to counter the misinformation that Terrence put out.
Eric was trying to be diplomatic by pretending to engage with Terrence’s ideas. You can see that he started off being extra nice and once he built a rapport with Terrence, that’s when he started talking down to him.
I’m a scientist and an educator and I thought Eric did a terrible job of explaining how Terrence was wrong and countering what he said in a way that most people can understand. He came across as just trying to assert his dominance over Terrence rather than gently correcting him.
Good luck with your channel. Are you trying to build it up or did you just want to talk about this one issue?
It was a pointless podcast, agreed. Why anyone would want to have a public conversation with Terrence, I have no idea. And lets not forget that Eric himself claims to have a theory of everything in which he argues has been dismissed by academia for reasons of "conspiracy". Both Eric & his brother, Bret, are social media sensations, not rational, careful thinkers that provide benefit to an audience
I got a glimpse of that theory in the podcast, but I didn't know that he's up against academia about it. Yes, totally agree with the rest. Although I kind of see where Terrence was going about the identity principle not being a natural phenomena. I think, because of that, he feels that math has to jump through a lot of hoops to make things work (and have special cases). Bah! I was just looking forward to seeing if Terrence's ideas had any merit. Didn't get to see it!
I agree...it was a waste of time and he was rude...
I just watched his podcast with Werner Herzog (which I heard about on this podcast). Half way in, Eric (the host), is just there scrolling on his phone. I think I'm learning about a side of Eric I wasn't aware of. Thanks for commenting.