I wanted a side by side until I priced them. I bought a Suzuki Samurai, installed a Toyota 22R-E, lifted it, bought new aluminum wheels and 35” mud terrains, a winch, built an exocage and bought a new soft top along with installing new rear gears. I have a very capable vehicle that I also drive on the street for around $12k
Maybe they could sacrifice like .5 horsepower and put a better muffler on it. That noise would get annoying after a long session with that CVT keeping the revs high.
Yeah could you imagine paying that much for something so unrefined. The driving experience between the loud engine and exhaust and the garbage CVT is atrocious. Not to mention everything vibrating and rattling. No thanks.
I have one, and it sounds no different than the dune runners. Look in person it's not as loud as it sounds in this video with the amplified microphones, and instead of going off of a video why don't you go drive one yourself.
@@phild9813 I have found ALL of the SxS pretty loud BUT you can get add-on mods and enclosures to quiet them down. In terms of pricing NEW Can-Am Defenders are around $16,000 and go on up from there to the $30,000+ range so the Polaris is on par with the Can-Am Defenders. The thing though, is that a 1990's-era B-series (i.e.B200) Mazda compact truck (i.e. which is a Mazda modded Ford Ranger!) is now only around $4500 used so I could mod it to high heaven with 4x4 parts and M/T tires and it would carry more and be more comfortable while still being able to go on the more narrow trails. And when Mazda OEM'ed the Ford Ranger, they added some extras that increased reliability and comfort so that is your best best for getting Can-Am Defender ability at a much cheaper price! Those Mazda compact trucks sure do run like tanks! They go and go like forever! V
"It's basically a little truck!" With the price of a full size 4X4 pickup. What a wonderful sound. Polaris Rubber Band CVT! JUST SHOOT IT AND PUT ME OUT OF MY MISERY!
@@NWI_Steel A friend rents Polaris ATVs and Slingshots (Polaris Adventure.) I've put 500 miles on a Slingshot and had a lot of fun. The ATV rubber band drive is a maintenance headache.
@@joshc606 Bull. As I wrote I personally know a Polaris Adventure provider. He has a new fleet of about 30 ATVs every year. I'm pretty sure most of them don't make it through the summer rental season without a belt replacement. Which is still longer than a Nissan CVT.
Came for the comments and they didn’t disappoint! Knew this luxury side by side was coming for over a year. In a day an age where motorcycles are $30k, pickups are $100k, homes are $500k, Polaris knows what it’s doing building these things. Heck, 4 years ago a Ranger North Star General or whatever with tracks on it sold from a dealer I worked for, $44k out the door.
I think we’re all doing this wrong… best winter adventurer = snowmobile. Don’t get me wrong, I do quite a bit of snow wheeling, but I keep realizing I need a snowmobile.
People that aren’t into power sports will never understand….remember people, there is a base price. Not just top of the line. If people will pay 70-80k for an F150 there is a market for a 40k SXS when they already hit 30k pretty easy.
At some point people have to realize things have gotten completely out of control and way out of balance. You have to be an idiot if you buy one of these things and have to finance it..... Got the cash, by all means, indulge yourself in something that will plummet in value immediately after you buy it. The sense of value is fading from the human....
Side by sides are nice for off road fun, but most can't afford the cost of that one. I'll take my 4x4 pickup, because I can take it offroad and take my kids to school or to the grocery store.
I live in South Africa.i want one for hunting fishing.. must be electric though and I must be able to charge it solar ,while I am waiting in my hide for the shot.
Expensive. Comfortable. Capable. But LOUD AF!(I was chuckling about the helmet bit until I heard this ridiculous machine going. Need the helmet to muffle the sound or go deaf) Not an ideal hunters rig. Sneaking up onto anything is impossible with that rig. Not ideal for ranch work as a cab over. So, that leaves some sort of.. expedition/glamping use case scenario. I for 1, would have a lot of other choices that would come 1st at this price range that are street legal too boot.
@@LeesChannel No, it isn't. You can drive to your prey but you can't shoot from the vehicle. The OP is absolutely correct. You have to be quiet as you approach the animal.
@@truenewsglobalThen you should really master them; I used the preposition "to" correctly, the adverb "too" would be grammatically incorrect, and would make it a nonsense sentence. But for your entertainment, here are some ways you could shoehorn "too" into that sentence: It's not *too* legal to hunt from a vehicle, is it? It's not legal too, to hunt from a vehicle, is it? It's not legal to hunt from a vehicle too, is it?
Been around Polaris rangers most of my adult life-long time! No doubt they have a comfortable ride, but they are constantly in the shop! If you can live with the price and the cost of ownership it beats a 4 wheeler.
TFL needs to run that off road course everyday for one hour a day. I'll bet the transmission wouldn't last a month. Come on, TFL! Let's see if the Expedition can survive a mere 30 hours on your off road course.
We have had several Rangers over the last 14 years as farm/ranch vehicles and have never had one in the shop for anything but routine maintenance. FWIW
It's on loan from Polaris so they have to play the game. In the real world I have worn a helmet in my Can Am exactly zero times. Your milage will likely be the same.....
if you want to make these Polaris Expeditions AND Can-Am Defenders STREET LEGAL, I would lookup the videos made by Tooele Valley Motorsports who have some fantastic examples of work done to make these higher-end SxS'es truly ultra-intense 4x4 off-road capable AND fully street legal. Great work by them and TFL should do a review to show what can be done in the SxS world for street legal and more performance! V
There some 3rd party companies that do the headlight and safety bumper mods and backup camera requirements such that these Polaris Expeditions and Can-Am Defenders are STREET LEGAL in all 50 states and all Canadian Privinces! They even do the federal crash tests and road tests that will certify this class of vehicle as being 60+ MPH highway-safe and legal! V
There is a very specialized use case for these things. You really have to have a very specific use for this machine. I'm sure there are people out there that will buy this, but I can't justify that money. I grew up on four-wheelers that could've been purchased new for $5,000 (at the high end). As many have said, I'd take an old Samurai or an XJ and stick about $10K into it and have it be just as capable, plus if you don't go too crazy with the mods, still have it be street legal - complete with A/C and heat! Plus I wouldn't need to listen to the drone of that engine. My goodness that is not something I could listen to for long periods of time. I want Polaris to succeed, especially since they're based out of my home state of MN, but $50K+ isn't it Polaris.
They (I think it was Nathan) mentioned in the first video about this thing that it's a loaner from the manufacturer, and they're picky about the helmet use. All I know is that I'm not about to pay through the nose for the doors, etc, just to wear a helmet. Maybe if you're doing goofy things likely to risk a roll over, it would be different.
The suspension flex is surprisingly bad😮 There's plenty of space inside the wheel arches to accomodate a nice rock crawler almost 90° flex, but it actually behaves closer to Dakar rally trucks with barely any suspension flexing
It might just be me, but I really dislike the sound of side by sides. The CVT has a lot to do with it. And this thing is neat, but I would have a tough time buying this over a street legal jeep.
Good news it's only 40K but if you want wheels and an engine and a steering wheel and seats it's gonna be 70K. The auto industry is such a scam now. They should include everything and tell you how much it is instead of trying to lure you in with a low price and then lowball you and then Jack up the price winter in the door to scam the dealership scam
Why would anyone spend that kind of money on one? I just don't get it. I'd take a lifted vehicle on 37s or 40s over this any day. If you are going to trailer your offroad vehicle anyways, why not get a proper Jeep or Toyota that has been built?
If a person really wanted to go off-grid on a narrow trailer in the snow, a snowmobile make more sense for that? You could just tow all your stuff in a slip behind you.
Polaris isn't any different than Can-Am or anyone else. A Defender is 50k+ for the same setup. People aren't buying the equivalent of two Toyota Camrys if they can't afford to. These things are toys and toys cost $$$. I do agree thought that consumer pricing on almost everything is out of control. I miss the $1 menu days at fast food restaurants. Now it's like, "Oh, you had the burger? That'll be $6.48" What?? I just wanted the Jr. Western Bacon Chee... Kyle, pay the lady.
Seems very capable, but that CVT mortorboating drone sounds pretty bad and only gets more annoying as it continues. The helmet must help the driver endure it.
Why use low range when you are driving on pretty normal off road terrain?. That thing sounds like it's gonna explode and 'stinky' likely means you are destroying tha belt. Nice you didnt have to pay for it.
@@joshc606 I has heat, air, power front windows, better sound insulation and a Rotax engine. Spend another $4k for an Audioformz roof and you are still under $40k.
After owning a brand new sportsman and ranger I would recommend to never buy anything polaris. They ride really smooth when they work but are unreliable and lack quality.
What if you already have a 4x4 truck, or 2.. and you don't want 3. Instead, you want a vehicle that can take you farther, and it can also run 45 mph down a logging road into the woods with all your gear for weekend
I wanted a side by side until I priced them. I bought a Suzuki Samurai, installed a Toyota 22R-E, lifted it, bought new aluminum wheels and 35” mud terrains, a winch, built an exocage and bought a new soft top along with installing new rear gears. I have a very capable vehicle that I also drive on the street for around $12k
I'm with you. I could buy a full set of professional tools, a lift, a welder, learn to weld and build my own. With a real engine and transmission.
A samauri is a real Billy goat for sure.
Polaris is out of their minds 50k for side by side and it doesn't even have a real engine 😂
Yeah, that's Jeep Rubicon money right there.
Real engine? It’s got a crank shaft, 2 cylinders, stupid power and it revs to like 8500. This is the most idiotic comment I’ve ever seen. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@Austinandjuleshonest question though, why not buy a jeep rubicon if we’re talking $50k
@@Kaiser333333 a jeep is not going to be able to get through stuff nearly as fast or got on tight trails your not going ti be jumping a jeep at 50mph
@@Austinandjulesand will tear up in a few thousand miles/hundred hours like my 2020 ranger. Japanese machines will be my only purchases from now on.
The gift for that special someone who has lost contact with reality😂.
Maybe they could sacrifice like .5 horsepower and put a better muffler on it. That noise would get annoying after a long session with that CVT keeping the revs high.
Yeah could you imagine paying that much for something so unrefined. The driving experience between the loud engine and exhaust and the garbage CVT is atrocious. Not to mention everything vibrating and rattling. No thanks.
I have one, and it sounds no different than the dune runners.
Look in person it's not as loud as it sounds in this video with the amplified microphones, and instead of going off of a video why don't you go drive one yourself.
@@phild9813 I have found ALL of the SxS pretty loud BUT you can get add-on mods and enclosures to quiet them down. In terms of pricing NEW Can-Am Defenders are around $16,000 and go on up from there to the $30,000+ range so the Polaris is on par with the Can-Am Defenders.
The thing though, is that a 1990's-era B-series (i.e.B200) Mazda compact truck (i.e. which is a Mazda modded Ford Ranger!) is now only around $4500 used so I could mod it to high heaven with 4x4 parts and M/T tires and it would carry more and be more comfortable while still being able to go on the more narrow trails. And when Mazda OEM'ed the Ford Ranger, they added some extras that increased reliability and comfort so that is your best best for getting Can-Am Defender ability at a much cheaper price!
Those Mazda compact trucks sure do run like tanks! They go and go like forever!
V
That is a crap ton of money for a plastic side by side. I cannot believe they ask so much for these things… and they sell. Unreal.
Right. People are buying them up like crazy. That's what's mind boggling to me
Because we can afford it, and it's purposely built to take you places that aren't meant for heavy vehicles like Jeeps.
@@mjareacts2731 Because you can afford it? Anyone can afford one of these with the financing options 😆
"It's basically a little truck!" With the price of a full size 4X4 pickup. What a wonderful sound. Polaris Rubber Band CVT! JUST SHOOT IT AND PUT ME OUT OF MY MISERY!
😂
@@NWI_Steel A friend rents Polaris ATVs and Slingshots (Polaris Adventure.) I've put 500 miles on a Slingshot and had a lot of fun. The ATV rubber band drive is a maintenance headache.
Nothing wrong with the CVT, plenty of people can go 3k before changing a belt which is %40 longer than a Nissan CVT haha
@@joshc606 Bull. As I wrote I personally know a Polaris Adventure provider. He has a new fleet of about 30 ATVs every year. I'm pretty sure most of them don't make it through the summer rental season without a belt replacement. Which is still longer than a Nissan CVT.
You should really do a comparison with a Jeep in those conditions. Or any conditions with timed and fun factor results.
Can't believe rooftop tents are still a thing.
$50,000 and I have sleep in a tent on the roof of my Polaris in winter and shit in a bucket?
I would love to run my bronco (now sitting on 37s) through the course after getting the power wagon through it a while back haha!
I want to see a video of Nathan spending the night in the roof top tent.
I was saying the same thing. Sure hope that tent has a heater in it 😂😂
Came for the comments and they didn’t disappoint!
Knew this luxury side by side was coming for over a year. In a day an age where motorcycles are $30k, pickups are $100k, homes are $500k, Polaris knows what it’s doing building these things. Heck, 4 years ago a Ranger North Star General or whatever with tracks on it sold from a dealer I worked for, $44k out the door.
I think we’re all doing this wrong… best winter adventurer = snowmobile. Don’t get me wrong, I do quite a bit of snow wheeling, but I keep realizing I need a snowmobile.
I'm going to start driving to work in my Jeep with a helmet.
Yea!
Doesn’t seem to popular here in the comments! I 💯 agree 👍
People that aren’t into power sports will never understand….remember people, there is a base price. Not just top of the line. If people will pay 70-80k for an F150 there is a market for a 40k SXS when they already hit 30k pretty easy.
Wish you could test the vanderhall brawley
I built one on the website. 63k.....damn
At some point people have to realize things have gotten completely out of control and way out of balance.
You have to be an idiot if you buy one of these things and have to finance it.....
Got the cash, by all means, indulge yourself in something that will plummet in value immediately after you buy it.
The sense of value is fading from the human....
Does it sound as bad in person as it does on video?
Very loud!!!!!!!
Side by sides are nice for off road fun, but most can't afford the cost of that one. I'll take my 4x4 pickup, because I can take it offroad and take my kids to school or to the grocery store.
That is absurdly priced at $40k - $50k with options, when a 2024 Wrangler 2-door Willys starts at $40k.
boggling makes you think why they still sell at those prices😵😳🥶
Crazy that people buy these at those prices. Will be lucky to get 20k miles out of that engine, meanwhile 200k out of a jeep wrangler pentastar
I live in South Africa.i want one for hunting fishing.. must be electric though and I must be able to charge it solar ,while I am waiting in my hide for the shot.
Expensive. Comfortable. Capable. But LOUD AF!(I was chuckling about the helmet bit until I heard this ridiculous machine going. Need the helmet to muffle the sound or go deaf) Not an ideal hunters rig. Sneaking up onto anything is impossible with that rig. Not ideal for ranch work as a cab over. So, that leaves some sort of.. expedition/glamping use case scenario. I for 1, would have a lot of other choices that would come 1st at this price range that are street legal too boot.
I didn't know glamping includes the opportunity to shit in a bucket.
It's not legal to hunt from a vehicle, is it?
@@LeesChannel No, it isn't. You can drive to your prey but you can't shoot from the vehicle. The OP is absolutely correct. You have to be quiet as you approach the animal.
@@LeesChannel I think it should be illegal to misuse the word “TO” vs. “TOO”!
@@truenewsglobalThen you should really master them; I used the preposition "to" correctly, the adverb "too" would be grammatically incorrect, and would make it a nonsense sentence.
But for your entertainment, here are some ways you could shoehorn "too" into that sentence:
It's not *too* legal to hunt from a vehicle, is it?
It's not legal too, to hunt from a vehicle, is it?
It's not legal to hunt from a vehicle too, is it?
Been around Polaris rangers most of my adult life-long time!
No doubt they have a comfortable ride, but they are constantly in the shop! If you can live with the price and the cost of ownership it beats a 4 wheeler.
TFL needs to run that off road course everyday for one hour a day. I'll bet the transmission wouldn't last a month. Come on, TFL! Let's see if the Expedition can survive a mere 30 hours on your off road course.
We have had several Rangers over the last 14 years as farm/ranch vehicles and have never had one in the shop for anything but routine maintenance. FWIW
I wonder if they’re going to offer an Xplorer one, or a Flxx version.😅
Wearing a helmet just riding around is insane.😂
Andre has something to lose. However, I don't think Roman needs a helmet.
@@jimjones-pz1tt :)
It's on loan from Polaris so they have to play the game. In the real world I have worn a helmet in my Can Am exactly zero times. Your milage will likely be the same.....
It wasn't long ago people were running around with face diapers.. you probably wore one too, why you surprised
I literally couldn't watch the video because of how bad that engine sounds. Quite possible the worst sounding engine I've ever heard on any vehicle.
If I had the money I'd have one of these. Right now I'm stuck with the old z force 800. :(
Could you constantly drive like for say 200 miles trip????😮🧐🤔
If you hate yourself, probably.
It's junk broo expensive junk!😵🥴😵💫😂
Would liketo see it with snow tracks
For people that really hate money!
Or for people with FU money
Put 3 more people in there, it seems like it will struggle.
if you want to make these Polaris Expeditions AND Can-Am Defenders STREET LEGAL, I would lookup the videos made by
Tooele Valley Motorsports who have some fantastic examples of work done to make these higher-end SxS'es truly ultra-intense 4x4 off-road capable AND fully street legal. Great work by them and TFL should do a review to show what can be done in the SxS world for street legal and more performance!
V
I wonder if I can drive that for a daily driver
There some 3rd party companies that do the headlight and safety bumper mods and backup camera requirements such that these Polaris Expeditions and Can-Am Defenders are STREET LEGAL in all 50 states and all Canadian Privinces! They even do the federal crash tests and road tests that will certify this class of vehicle as being 60+ MPH highway-safe and legal!
V
There is a very specialized use case for these things. You really have to have a very specific use for this machine. I'm sure there are people out there that will buy this, but I can't justify that money. I grew up on four-wheelers that could've been purchased new for $5,000 (at the high end). As many have said, I'd take an old Samurai or an XJ and stick about $10K into it and have it be just as capable, plus if you don't go too crazy with the mods, still have it be street legal - complete with A/C and heat! Plus I wouldn't need to listen to the drone of that engine. My goodness that is not something I could listen to for long periods of time. I want Polaris to succeed, especially since they're based out of my home state of MN, but $50K+ isn't it Polaris.
Cool all-weather side-by-side but that constant groaning from the engine and CVT is pretty annoying and tiring.
Pretty sure the lockers were on. Would make it harder to turn
Why do You have all that weight on the roof ??!! ( tent ? )
Why does this thing always sound like a motor revving with an RC car driving behind it?
I don't understand why the helmet
Safety
but it has all the features of a truck so why the helmet... @@Mr-pn2eh
@Johno530 safety
Plus that sounds like a you problem
They (I think it was Nathan) mentioned in the first video about this thing that it's a loaner from the manufacturer, and they're picky about the helmet use.
All I know is that I'm not about to pay through the nose for the doors, etc, just to wear a helmet. Maybe if you're doing goofy things likely to risk a roll over, it would be different.
Polaris requires the helmet, per previous video.
What is the point of this vehicle? Just get a 4wd truck.
“You’re probably wondering how much it’ll cost?, well I’ll tell you in the end” (thinks to himself- cuz you’ll find another video) lol
Why is Andre wearing a helmet in that? Other than not getting his ears cold, I don't use much use lol
The suspension flex is surprisingly bad😮 There's plenty of space inside the wheel arches to accomodate a nice rock crawler almost 90° flex, but it actually behaves closer to Dakar rally trucks with barely any suspension flexing
It might just be me, but I really dislike the sound of side by sides. The CVT has a lot to do with it. And this thing is neat, but I would have a tough time buying this over a street legal jeep.
Not sure I've ever seen anyone wearing a helmet in a side-by-side ever on a trail.
Wonder how much better it would have done with chains on all four corners....those were difficult situations.
Good news it's only 40K but if you want wheels and an engine and a steering wheel and seats it's gonna be 70K. The auto industry is such a scam now. They should include everything and tell you how much it is instead of trying to lure you in with a low price and then lowball you and then Jack up the price winter in the door to scam the dealership scam
Why would anyone spend that kind of money on one? I just don't get it. I'd take a lifted vehicle on 37s or 40s over this any day. If you are going to trailer your offroad vehicle anyways, why not get a proper Jeep or Toyota that has been built?
I guess if a little snow is to dangerous for a Polaris ill stick with can am
Bought my Expedition 3 months ago had it delivered haven’t even sat in it…
All that money for all that noise in the cabin🤣🤣🤣
Worst sounding exhaust note at any price & the steering problem is a deal breaker....
There is nowhere I have to go and nothing so important I have to do that warrant that horrible engine and transmission noise. It's gonna blow!
You left it in low the entire video.
This thing may be a way overpriced, uber-niche toy.... but it does well in Andre Spit (0:24)! 🤣
If a person really wanted to go off-grid on a narrow trailer in the snow, a snowmobile make more sense for that? You could just tow all your stuff in a slip behind you.
Since when are helmets required in a side by side? Must be a state to state thing. We dont need them in Michigan
The machine's a press vehicle, on loan from Polaris, who insists that helmets need to be worn at all times. TFL has no say in the matter.
Polaris isn't any different than Can-Am or anyone else. A Defender is 50k+ for the same setup. People aren't buying the equivalent of two Toyota Camrys if they can't afford to. These things are toys and toys cost $$$. I do agree thought that consumer pricing on almost everything is out of control. I miss the $1 menu days at fast food restaurants. Now it's like, "Oh, you had the burger? That'll be $6.48" What?? I just wanted the Jr. Western Bacon Chee... Kyle, pay the lady.
Toys for boys
Bought a 23 rubicon ecodiesel for 51,000
This is made for Roman, who values something no one else has (even if it’s because no one else wants it).
Roman won't drive anthing that doesn't have a leather wrapped steering wheel.
I think a Jeep WJ would do the same thing for about $4000.
Seems very capable, but that CVT mortorboating drone sounds pretty bad and only gets more annoying as it continues. The helmet must help the driver endure it.
When I think of motor boating, I think of my girlfriend.
please test 1500 xd
Why use low range when you are driving on pretty normal off road terrain?. That thing sounds like it's gonna explode and 'stinky' likely means you are destroying tha belt. Nice you didnt have to pay for it.
It's a enclosed General.....
Overrated golf cart! Drive it in two feet of snow not 1” of snow.😂
lol a sxs for people who like to be outside but not go outside
Tires look extremely small.
I think these are super cool…. But priced outrageously
I would put a Can Am Defender Limited up against this any day!!
Maybe but does it have all the amenities?
@@joshc606 I has heat, air, power front windows, better sound insulation and a Rotax engine. Spend another $4k for an Audioformz roof and you are still under $40k.
@@joshc606it has power windows, hear, a/c, and now a front locker. It has all of the amenities, except for the screen. It also seats six.
@@joshc606I also watched several videos where the cab is much quieter and sealed better for dust/water.
Why not just buy a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon? That’s what I would do hands down. It’s way more practical.
They don’t give the price until the end because they want people to watch the video not laugh through the whole thing.
Some people have more money then brains or common sense.
50 to 60k for a sxs ill pass
YALL SHOULD DO THAT ON A KEY TRUCK ❤ 🛻
The Polaris Xpedition is kinda cool, but way too plastic-y. I would never buy one. That said, I'm sure they will be a hit for some.
After owning a brand new sportsman and ranger I would recommend to never buy anything polaris. They ride really smooth when they work but are unreliable and lack quality.
This channel needs to stick to the ike guantlet videos they are definitely out of talent and knowledge when it comes to driving utv's !!!
Let me spend 50k on a sxs instead of a more capable jeep that can drive on the freeway, yeeaaa that makes sense. Smh.
Why wouldnt you just buy a beater truck to have fun with for that price 😂 and you dont have to wear a helmet!
Side by sides are annoying always ruining my camping experiences.
$1000 late 80’s Ford Ranger over this golf cart any day. 👎🏻
You probably should wear ear plugs😆😆😆
Way over priced !!!
Having to wear a helmet in these things is ridiculous.
um... a helmet is not required
i hate how that engine sounds
Should not be in low
Ridiculous price for this.
Rather have a new bronco. We work on lots of Polaris machines. You couldn’t give me one. Absolute junk.
Steel toe boots , bulletproof vest, and a spotter also. Feel sorry for you Andre. The nanny state has taken all the fun away.
Can't even drive it on roads legally. Just get a real 4x4 truck what this cost
What if you already have a 4x4 truck, or 2.. and you don't want 3. Instead, you want a vehicle that can take you farther, and it can also run 45 mph down a logging road into the woods with all your gear for weekend
Too much money for a machine that won’t last.
What a ripoff I bought a 2020 fully loaded Tacoma for less than that
You're amazing 👏
at this price a Jeep is 100% better...
no.
Sounds like a chainsaw
Your all broke 😂