Lies Section: 1. Turns out the KT9 was actually released after the KT10, it's a lower cost version. 2. There are adjustable weights in the KT10 that let you set what resistance you'd like. I was not aware of that feature during testing.
It is well worth the money for my needs due to the quality. I play professionally and they do a great job. I can place it where I want without any restrictions. Great for multi pedal set up. The feel is very close to a regular pedal. Heel toe as you nicely displayed works well. I am not a big heel-toe player as such but find the technique easy to do with this pedal. As you mentioned the build quality very good. I am not a Roland fan per say, but a big fan of this pedal. What I really like is the lack of bouncy rebound as one gets off a mesh head or rubber tower. I can sink the beater into the pedal and feels more natural for me as opposed to some of the tower/ mesh headed kick units. The smooth floorboard has inspired me to learn the slide technique. Roland put a lot of thought into this pedal as I have owned many types of towers, inverted beater etc. I prefer this for quick set up also. I give this a big thumbs up.
I have been using 2 KT-10s with my TD-30 for over 2 years of daily play. They are awesome, feel great and are well built. I hope that Roland never stops making them.
I have two. They are quiet and feel pretty damn good to me. Nothing like shredding some double bass without shaking the floor. Plus, they're easy to use and move around. Definitely recommend.
I own 2 of these and I am very impressed with them. I bought them just for playing on other peoples crappy drum sets and I take my TM2 module with me and this totally blows people's minds when they hear how great the kick drum sounds. I set these behind the acoustic crappy kick drum and nobody even knows that I have an electronic set up. I also use it with my octo pad and it works flawlessly. These are not as Precision as my iron Cobra pedals but they do the job nicely. Other than being a little pricey they are a cool asset to my collection..
Thanks for the shout out, Justin. Glad to give back to you after all the amazing work you've done for us. Fleshing out all these questions in our heads around what gear is right for us and how it compares etc helps so much in saving us time and money in missteps.
I have 2 of these. Owned them for a couple years now. Phenominal. Never had issue wth playing double notes. But I play toe down style with no heel touching.
Just want to share my experience on KT-10 with my TD-1K. I just moved to a new apartment. My neighbor was not happy with the loud noise caused by TD-1 bass pedal so I bought KT-10 with a hope to fix the problem. However, it made it worse! KT-10 is very sturdy and heavy, so its weight creates more vibration downstairs than the TD-1K’s pedal. I had to also buy NE-10 to reduce the impact but still it did not help. I finally did a sound test with my neighbor with both pedals with/without NE-10. The conclusion is, TD-1K with NE-10 is the quietest one. Even KT-10 + NE-10 are still way louder than TD-1K’s pedal. Apart from the noise, everything is great like Justin said. Very sturdy, never move around. It has bouncing and good feeling when play. I still keep KT-10, in case I move to the new place that does not have a neighbor downstairs.
Tanes Jedsadawaranon Same here! I also upgraded to KT-10 (for the better feel) and it's great, but the neighbor downstairs is not happy. It definitely needs good vibration isolation below it. I'm currently testing DIY options.
I 100% disagree! I love the KT-10 pedal, and that has NOTHING to do with me trying to be quite! I love the feel of it. It is fast and accurate and I can speed drum the hell out of it. I have been gigging for years and I never want to use an old fashioned beater pedal again! And the thing is heavy, which I like too.
Justin, I have two of these in a double bass setup. The thump is significantly magnified through the framing, way more than one would expect. The floor and open space between the framing acts as a drum. Upon inspection, it appears that it the volume transfer could be as much as ten times what one hears in the room. It's an amazing fail on impact transfer below. When one thinks about it, the bottom plate acts as an impact transfer plate into the plywood flooring. Carpet and pad does nothing to stop it. I am working on a design for a miniature individual isolation platforms, utilizing racquetballs instead of tennis balls, as they are smaller in diameter and appear to be suitable for the purpose and do not add as much height as tennis balls would. The pedals would be mounted on these individual platforms shaped as the pedal bottom plate. We shall see if that kind of thing works. Otherwise, these are not the answer for those trying to limit volume transfer in standard framed upper apartments. On a concrete floor in a ground floor unit, they could be fine, as the actual impact noise in the room is very low, as you show.
The feel of the pedal is actually too light for me - compared to a regular pedal/bass drum. I've done two modifications, making the feel heavier. 1) I've attached additional weight to the beater 2) I've modified the spring system to be tighter (which was too sluggish with the added weight). This works really well. I use my electronic drum set exclusively to practice, and for this purpose it's very important that playing my e-drums isn't easier compared to playing an acoustic. Actually I rather prefer that - if not the same - that my e-drums requires a bit more effort. I have two KT-10s that I use with a Yamaha DTX502 and a Yamaha M12 respectivly. Both are on a Roland NE-10 damping plate. As noted on other comments, this works really well regarding minimizing floor vibrations. Thanks to 65drums for a great channel. Michael.
Hi Justin, I totally agree with you. I am a beginner drummer for over a year and I have this pedal for 1 year. I have a lot of trouble with the double strike. I thought it came from me but when I try to shop a pedal like KD-9 easier. But the main reason for this purchase is Roland's really successful silence with a really good quality and gaming feel. As usual Justin very good comment from you !!!
Recently bought one, I love it. For me it was all about portability, the KD-9 plus the kick pedal took up a lot of space. This combines the two into one compact kick pedal! I’m gigging with the octapad and the KT-10, and it’s such a sweet little setup. Thanks man, have a great day🤘
I'm a little late to the game on this topic but I just got a KT10 and LOVE it. It's way quieter than my KD-8 and KD-9. My kit is in my basement so I don't have a wood floor beneath me to amplify the vibrations, but the above-floor air transmitted noise is so low now that my family doesn't hear it one floor above.
I owned one and Loved It. The feel and response was great! In my opinion, its the best in its class, but I ended up selling it because I didn't use it as much as I thought I would. I also bought and tried the KT-9 it sucked the feel and response was weak.
Enrique Finally someone who has tried a KT9. I was looking into those for so long but could never find a proper review or one in any store. Ended up getting a Hart Dynamics kick drum that looks and feels as good as any Roland V model but only cost me $150.
Brian Homan Yes I bought the KT-9 when it first came out because for some reason I thought, its their latest model it had to be better than the KT-10 but what a disappointment. I see why the KT-10 cost more, Its better built, sturdier, heavier, better feel and response. it's well worth the price.
Enrique I thought the same thing, it looked like it could be a decent alternative at least. I thought maybe they'd really put some work into perfecting that type of model and that it would perform close to the real thing. Glad I ended up with the Hart bass drum then. The hihat version of this looks like it would really be a nice addition though
Brian I haven't tried out the FD-9 yet but I've read some good reviews on it. The FD-8 had a few issues and from the reviews I've read not built as well as the FD-9. The FD-9 does cost about $75 more dollars so the buyer would have to keep that in mind.
That's good to know, how would the KT-10 compare with the KT-9 in terms of the low frequency thud, and the overall quietness? I live in an appartment, I really don't want to disturb my neighbours downstairs. I've already got a carpet, but I'm still a bit paranoid about the vibration. The KT-10's beater still physically beats a surface, my main concern is that thud causes a lot of vibration. Is that the case with the KT10 when compared with the KT-9? Would really appreciate the help!
Just like i commented on the patronage page : Another good review Justin :-). Your film from the playing examples really well document the problems with the concept this sort of product represent. The lack of the weight of the beater club really damper the possibility for the quicker play, or at least as you comment, make it much more difficult. Like you say, i too see the point of the pedal concept but one REALLY has to have some neighbors that are ready to sue for this to be an alternative. Just my humble 5 cent.
This is great for a small gigging kit. Great feel. I was using a dw5000 pedal and a tower. This is a fraction of the size. It took me an hour or so to get used to the feel, but now I like it better. A light fast response. A professional and practical choice for bass drum triggering.
I prefer this to the mesh kick drum that came with my kit as it feels more solid and more natural. Far better than some of the reviews I've seen who were saying it wasnt quiet, I can only assume they are very heavy footed players but I can play this in the living room and dont get complaints from anyone watching tv so to me it passes the quiet test.
I need to try these pedals out. I live in an apartment and currently use the kd-9 and have constant complaints from my neighbors above and next to me. I have tried noise eaters and making a platform with tennis balls cut in half and I still get grief from them. I often use my alesis strike multipad as a mini kit when I play small coffee shop venues, being able to put my rd-8 and kt-10 , cy-5 and pdx 8 all in 1 backpack would be so fast and convenient. Anything that makes my load in/load out faster and easier is worth money. Not having to play a stupid Cajon=priceless
@@reneandrensennirod I have 2 of these pedals now and I absolutely love them. I got mine used and bought both for under the price of buying 1 brand new, was lucky and got very good deal. These have definitely helped with my sound issues, these still to need good vibration transfer prevention. I use a drum rug with thick foam padding underneath
this is basically a cheap alternative of a direct drive pedal. mine is a Roland TD 1kv one. old technology but yes the same concept. p.s. I bought my kit after watching tons of videos from your channel. I play on a v kit and I love it. thanks
Just bought a brand new in box 📦 KT-10 and a PD-120 snare drum on FB marketplace for 200$ I’m extremely happy with my purchase!!! This reall makes much less noise and vibrations than my Kd-9 and my junk 40$ bass drum pedal that came with my td-11kv. The pedal is very smooth and the board is long enough to do heel/toe easily. I wish I had another 450$ I could have bought the red SPD-SX special edition for 650. I did have that much however I already have a strike multipad and that would have been all of my money at the moment. I would have been going hungry this week, but playing on new sick gear. I’m probably going to be kicking myself tomorrow, probably could have sold it for a profit, however I might have to sit on it for awhile to recoup my investment. Or sell my strike multipad to keep Roland, w/e. Definitely getting rid of my KD-9, however until then I can have both of them hooked up and play double bass with just one plug taken up, because the KT-10 can daisy chain another pedal. Justin is totally correct, playing on that 12” snare instead of that small pdx-8 makes a huge difference. The pad makes my pdx-6 /8’s look tiny and like toys. Definitely going upgrade my old Alesis DM-6 rubber pad to a pdx-8 . If I didn’t have my multipad on left side I would use it as a side snare
I ordered one when I bought my TD-11. It's great for a light weight, on the go type of set I'm going for. I'm not an experienced drummer so I can't really get into how it differs from a real kick pedal.
Hi Justin thanks for the wonderful review. I would suggest the roland noise eaters i own some and they really reduce the noise that came from the pedals. Have a nice weekend !
Then you won't eat for a month because they are so expensive! I solved my problem: went to a store, bought a carpet for less than 10$, bought 2 pieces of cork to act like noise eaters for my double bass and hi hat pedals, and BOOM, no noise at all except from beaters beating the hell out of my KD-9. Simple solution.
I bought a used kit last year that came with a KT-10 (sold the kit kept the kick). There is one problem I found with it that was particularly annoying, for me anyway... I play heel up and when I rested my heel on the pedal if I didn't do it very carefully it triggered the kick, which was bad.
The triggira krig is also a great option for a quite bass drum for the people downstiars. I have one and i think it feels pretty good, and it was 100 bucks canadian. you have to do a little bit of fine tuning once you get it but i think it's a great option.
I’ve got one, just for ease of portability on small gigs… but you are correct, I struggle trying to play fast doubles on it( I’m not that good on a standard pedal) but I really find this hard to play fast on… unless, maybe I’m using wrong technique 😊
Just a point of clarity- the KT-10 came out well before the KT-9. The KT-9 came out in April 2016. The KT-10 came out in April of 2014, so the KT-10 is actually 2 years older.
Thanks for a thorough review! Has anybody tried Roland KT-10 with Alesis Stirke Multipad? Are they compatible? I'm currently looking for a quiet kick pedal option for my Alesis SMP and cannot find information on whether this pedal would fit. I appreciate it if you might help!
Those types are nice to put aside the acoustic bass drum when incorporting electrics on acoustic setup. They should fit perfectly aside the other pedal
Hi, I have a tendency to use the ball of my foot and rest the beater on the kick drum. I am having problems with my Roland KD-180L bouncing and double triggering and I am going out of mind. How do you think this pedal will work with my style of playing? Thank you so much for a response. You seem very knowledgeable.
I have acoustic kit and I use it like aux trigger left to my hi hat, i love it , the feel is great is very quiet also it uses little space it is why i bought because i had pedal plus pad and they gave me a Lot problems with the legs stand.
Would a Yamaha textured cellular silicone snare pad going into a ddrum ddti interface play nice with super drummer 3? It's piezo-switch-switch on a TRS right?
Junior Cigano I had a KD9 (tower) and was looking into this pedal. Went on eBay and got a Hart Dynamics bass drum instead. Has a 10" mesh head on it, super sturdy frame and hardly any internal guts so it doesn't make that same thud sound as the tower units do while still giving the feel of a normal kick. Just a thought if you ever want the feel/look of a real bass drum again and want the same low noise level
The pedal is good. Quiet enough not to disturb neighbours. But as you said pedal is hard, it is not possible to hit twice quickly. There are ways to soften the pedal, like removing the metal pieces in the beater but this time the beater becomes so light that, if you don't kick hard the hits don't register. Still it is the best option if you live in an apartment. Kinda realistic and quiet. (I have it btw)
Does anyone know if/how the KT-10 could be used to trigger drum sounds on something like the Maschine MK series controllers? Is something like a midi converter box required?
would you recommend this as a kick trigger for the nord pad3. im not worried about neighbors or volume. i just want a good feel like im hitting something and can get a good swing 8th notes with the kick for hip hop style and not take up a bunch of space.
Justin..... do you know fr sure if this pedal,or the Yamaha Pedal that you mention, will work with an Alesis Command X Mesh kit? I can't seem to find definitive info anywhere, thought you might know. Thanks!
Does this work with Alesis e-kits, or only Roland ones? I'm looking for a beaterless double bass kick drum for an Alesis DM10 MKII pro, so I can cut down on noise vibrations going to my neighbour below. Can you recommend anything?
Hey Justin I'm debating of what kind of edrum should I get. I could buy a yamaha dtxreme 3 or roland td1kv. Both almost the same price what should I get?
Shadow F. Mcloud- Depends what you're looking to do with it but no matter what the strike pro is far superior. That doesn't mean it doesn't have it's warts though. What are you looking to do with an e-kit is the most important question? Depending on how you answer I just might say neither and get the Roland td17kvx.
Ray Ray I'm a huge metal head that plays hard, so for one thing so I need it to take a beating. I'm mainly looking for a large kit with good sound, I haven't had a chance to try either rubber or mesh heads so I can't really judge one. So I'm just looking for a good sounding durable kit that works with double pedals that's decent sized with good sound
Shadow F. Mcloud- The strike pro would definitely fit you tastes then. Stay away from the rubber pads if you're a hard hitter, they will destroy your wrists. Honestly though it'll be best not to play edrums with the fury you use on an accoustic kit. If you're new to edrums then the strike pro maybe be a frustrating experience for you. You will need to dive deep into the module to get it going, especially the hihat.
Perhaps a stupid question, but can this pedal be used to trigger other sounds than kicks? I'm looking for a pedal to use on my acoustic kit along with my TD-9 module. I'd love to be able to trigger hand claps and such with my left foot.
It won't work with HD1 - that kit is one of the few Roland kits that uses a force dependent resistor rather than a piezo for the kick trigger. Roland doesn't say that the KT10 will work with all units, they say it will work with all units that has a jack plug for the kick trigger. HD1 doesn't actually have this, does it? I thought the kick was hard wired in.
@@65Drums Alrighty, I just bought one along with Alessis Strike pro. So excited, Finally after 3 years, i got a chance to convert my kit into an eletronic one
Folks, just get the KT-10. I got a KT-9 with my Octapad, and while it works with the KT-10 in a dual-kick setup, it has an annoying "ghost" kick that ruins the dual kick rig. You want to be precise with your kicks. Just sell the KT-9 you got with your Octapad and go for a single or dual KT-10 setup.
You can change the resistance by placing the weights in a different position. It feels not much different to the bassdrum which came with my complete set.
First love your channel and watch every video but.....I completely disagree with your opinion of these types of pedals. I use them exclusively and as an edrum user I'm the complete opposite of you on these. Why use a bass drum pedal and a kick tower? You're missing out on the huge advantages of having an e-kit, the opportunity to use these types of pedals. I think they feel great, much more stable,way easier to transport and position, quieter, and painless to use. I don't know about you but those kick towers cause pain for me in my ankles and shins after long plays. You always say they are useless to you but you're not really giving them the chance to show you their advantages. You're a kick drum purist I get it but you can't tell me those kick towers, any of them, are really that great feeling. And I've tried most of them all brands so I'm not a novice. You still have an accoustic side to you and haven't fully given in to the darkside(e-drums). When you have you will realize the full potential of these types of kick pads.
Ray Ray That's honestly pretty true, man. I have noticed in the last two years of playing strictly electronic drums that my calves get fatigued sooner and that I tend to hold my ankle in an awkward "always cocked" position, like a permanent heel up style, when I play to make sure I'm getting the proper rebound I need. I've played with the tension of my pedal and the mesh head but it never seems to let up. I love my kick tower and the beefy look it gives my kit but I might end up checking one of these out sooner than later
Brian Homan- If you do try them make sure you give it a chance, 6 months maybe even a year. It takes time for your muscles to make the change, they're used to a certain way. I wouldn't challenge or argue the look, Justin wins that one but that's all in your mind you will flush it out. The big problem is, and I had it to, is we can't let go of the accoustic side. Edrums are a different instrument but for some reason we are obsessed with making them accoustic. Also the best part is you'll never have to worry about the creeping and wobble of a kick pad again. The kick pedal triggers stay put and never wobble. I use the KT-9 but the KT-10 functions much differently. Be aware of this as you may not like one but the other you may.
4:13 - How can you play with that big wad of stuff in your right pants pocket? I have to empty my pockets when I play so my hands don't get hung up on my leg!
Lies Section:
1. Turns out the KT9 was actually released after the KT10, it's a lower cost version.
2. There are adjustable weights in the KT10 that let you set what resistance you'd like. I was not aware of that feature during testing.
Thanks for the advice , this seems to be great solution for the TD-11K ,
because noise pollution & neighbours …. , I'd rather stay friends , so ….
In theory, do you think it will work on an Alesis module?
It is well worth the money for my needs due to the quality. I play professionally and they do a great job. I can place it where I want without any restrictions. Great for multi pedal set up. The feel is very close to a regular pedal. Heel toe as you nicely displayed works well. I am not a big heel-toe player as such but find the technique easy to do with this pedal. As you mentioned the build quality very good. I am not a Roland fan per say, but a big fan of this pedal. What I really like is the lack of bouncy rebound as one gets off a mesh head or rubber tower. I can sink the beater into the pedal and feels more natural for me as opposed to some of the tower/ mesh headed kick units. The smooth floorboard has inspired me to learn the slide technique. Roland put a lot of thought into this pedal as I have owned many types of towers, inverted beater etc. I prefer this for quick set up also. I give this a big thumbs up.
totally agree
I have been using 2 KT-10s with my TD-30 for over 2 years of daily play. They are awesome, feel great and are well built. I hope that Roland never stops making them.
Glad you're liking them so much! I agree the build quality on these is fantastic
I have two. They are quiet and feel pretty damn good to me. Nothing like shredding some double bass without shaking the floor. Plus, they're easy to use and move around. Definitely recommend.
Thanks for sharing your review!
How quiet are these?
I feel you. I thought I was going to get by with a KT-10 + KT-9, but it didn't work out. Going for dual KT-10 instead.
Absolutely love my double KT-10 pedals, bought them both used for great price
I own 2 of these and I am very impressed with them. I bought them just for playing on other peoples crappy drum sets and I take my TM2 module with me and this totally blows people's minds when they hear how great the kick drum sounds. I set these behind the acoustic crappy kick drum and nobody even knows that I have an electronic set up. I also use it with my octo pad and it works flawlessly. These are not as Precision as my iron Cobra pedals but they do the job nicely. Other than being a little pricey they are a cool asset to my collection..
Thanks for sharing your review!
Thanks for the shout out, Justin. Glad to give back to you after all the amazing work you've done for us. Fleshing out all these questions in our heads around what gear is right for us and how it compares etc helps so much in saving us time and money in missteps.
Thanks so much for the support dude! I really really appreciate it :)
I have 2 of these. Owned them for a couple years now. Phenominal. Never had issue wth playing double notes. But I play toe down style with no heel touching.
Shawn Lothamer how quiet are they?
Just want to share my experience on KT-10 with my TD-1K. I just moved to a new apartment. My neighbor was not happy with the loud noise caused by TD-1 bass pedal so I bought KT-10 with a hope to fix the problem. However, it made it worse! KT-10 is very sturdy and heavy, so its weight creates more vibration downstairs than the TD-1K’s pedal. I had to also buy NE-10 to reduce the impact but still it did not help. I finally did a sound test with my neighbor with both pedals with/without NE-10. The conclusion is, TD-1K with NE-10 is the quietest one. Even KT-10 + NE-10 are still way louder than TD-1K’s pedal.
Apart from the noise, everything is great like Justin said. Very sturdy, never move around. It has bouncing and good feeling when play. I still keep KT-10, in case I move to the new place that does not have a neighbor downstairs.
Tanes Jedsadawaranon Same here! I also upgraded to KT-10 (for the better feel) and it's great, but the neighbor downstairs is not happy. It definitely needs good vibration isolation below it. I'm currently testing DIY options.
Wow, you have a nice neighbour. Thanks for the review
I 100% disagree! I love the KT-10 pedal, and that has NOTHING to do with me trying to be quite! I love the feel of it. It is fast and accurate and I can speed drum the hell out of it. I have been gigging for years and I never want to use an old fashioned beater pedal again! And the thing is heavy, which I like too.
Yup. The KT-10 feels dialed in! Kick precision is a must. The KT-10 delivers.
Justin, I have two of these in a double bass setup. The thump is significantly magnified through the framing, way more than one would expect. The floor and open space between the framing acts as a drum. Upon inspection, it appears that it the volume transfer could be as much as ten times what one hears in the room. It's an amazing fail on impact transfer below. When one thinks about it, the bottom plate acts as an impact transfer plate into the plywood flooring. Carpet and pad does nothing to stop it.
I am working on a design for a miniature individual isolation platforms, utilizing racquetballs instead of tennis balls, as they are smaller in diameter and appear to be suitable for the purpose and do not add as much height as tennis balls would. The pedals would be mounted on these individual platforms shaped as the pedal bottom plate. We shall see if that kind of thing works.
Otherwise, these are not the answer for those trying to limit volume transfer in standard framed upper apartments. On a concrete floor in a ground floor unit, they could be fine, as the actual impact noise in the room is very low, as you show.
The feel of the pedal is actually too light for me - compared to a regular pedal/bass drum.
I've done two modifications, making the feel heavier.
1) I've attached additional weight to the beater
2) I've modified the spring system to be tighter (which was too sluggish with the added weight).
This works really well.
I use my electronic drum set exclusively to practice, and for this purpose it's very important that playing my e-drums isn't easier compared to playing an acoustic.
Actually I rather prefer that - if not the same - that my e-drums requires a bit more effort.
I have two KT-10s that I use with a Yamaha DTX502 and a Yamaha M12 respectivly.
Both are on a Roland NE-10 damping plate. As noted on other comments, this works really well regarding minimizing floor vibrations.
Thanks to 65drums for a great channel.
Michael.
Hi Justin, I totally agree with you. I am a beginner drummer for over a year and I have this pedal for 1 year. I have a lot of trouble with the double strike. I thought it came from me but when I try to shop a pedal like KD-9 easier. But the main reason for this purchase is Roland's really successful silence with a really good quality and gaming feel. As usual Justin very good comment from you !!!
a very aesthetically pleasing pedal, Justin! By the way ..nice drum n bass!!!
Recently bought one, I love it. For me it was all about portability, the KD-9 plus the kick pedal took up a lot of space. This combines the two into one compact kick pedal! I’m gigging with the octapad and the KT-10, and it’s such a sweet little setup. Thanks man, have a great day🤘
I'm a little late to the game on this topic but I just got a KT10 and LOVE it. It's way quieter than my KD-8 and KD-9. My kit is in my basement so I don't have a wood floor beneath me to amplify the vibrations, but the above-floor air transmitted noise is so low now that my family doesn't hear it one floor above.
I owned one and Loved It. The feel and response was great! In my opinion, its the best in its class, but I ended up selling it because I didn't use it as much as I thought I would. I also bought and tried the KT-9 it sucked the feel and response was weak.
Enrique Finally someone who has tried a KT9. I was looking into those for so long but could never find a proper review or one in any store. Ended up getting a Hart Dynamics kick drum that looks and feels as good as any Roland V model but only cost me $150.
Brian Homan Yes I bought the KT-9 when it first came out because for some reason I thought, its their latest model it had to be better than the KT-10 but what a disappointment. I see why the KT-10 cost more, Its better built, sturdier, heavier, better feel and response. it's well worth the price.
Enrique I thought the same thing, it looked like it could be a decent alternative at least. I thought maybe they'd really put some work into perfecting that type of model and that it would perform close to the real thing. Glad I ended up with the Hart bass drum then. The hihat version of this looks like it would really be a nice addition though
Brian I haven't tried out the FD-9 yet but I've read some good reviews on it. The FD-8 had a few issues and from the reviews I've read not built as well as the FD-9. The FD-9 does cost about $75 more dollars so the buyer would have to keep that in mind.
That's good to know, how would the KT-10 compare with the KT-9 in terms of the low frequency thud, and the overall quietness? I live in an appartment, I really don't want to disturb my neighbours downstairs. I've already got a carpet, but I'm still a bit paranoid about the vibration. The KT-10's beater still physically beats a surface, my main concern is that thud causes a lot of vibration. Is that the case with the KT10 when compared with the KT-9?
Would really appreciate the help!
Just like i commented on the patronage page : Another good review Justin :-). Your film from the playing examples really well document the problems with the concept this sort of product represent. The lack of the weight of the beater club really damper the possibility for the quicker play, or at least as you comment, make it much more difficult. Like you say, i too see the point of the pedal concept but one REALLY has to have some neighbors that are ready to sue for this to be an alternative. Just my humble 5 cent.
I agree 100%! Even Justin's doubles sounded sloppy because of the pedal
I have 2 of these. Sold my mesh kt85 to get the first one. Loved it so much I got another.
I use 2 of these, not because they are super quiet, they just feel solid like a direct drive pedal. Love the videos justin! Thanks
Justin really enjoy your channel your reviews are top notch.
Thanks Nick!
Seriously helpful video. I’m not a drummer but getting an electric kit for my studio with this pedal
I love my KT-10, keep it on an NE-10 and love how quiet it is.
I checked out this back at namm 2016 i believe maybe 2015 and i was blown away by how close it feels to a real pedal.
It's the best free standing pedal on the market in my opinion
65 Drums i can totally agree with that.
This is great for a small gigging kit. Great feel. I was using a dw5000 pedal and a tower. This is a fraction of the size. It took me an hour or so to get used to the feel, but now I like it better. A light fast response. A professional and practical choice for bass drum triggering.
I prefer this to the mesh kick drum that came with my kit as it feels more solid and more natural. Far better than some of the reviews I've seen who were saying it wasnt quiet, I can only assume they are very heavy footed players but I can play this in the living room and dont get complaints from anyone watching tv so to me it passes the quiet test.
Do you still think the same after 1 year ? Im thinkiny to buy one
Exactly what I was looking for! Thank you.
I need to try these pedals out. I live in an apartment and currently use the kd-9 and have constant complaints from my neighbors above and next to me. I have tried noise eaters and making a platform with tennis balls cut in half and I still get grief from them. I often use my alesis strike multipad as a mini kit when I play small coffee shop venues, being able to put my rd-8 and kt-10 , cy-5 and pdx 8 all in 1 backpack would be so fast and convenient. Anything that makes my load in/load out faster and easier is worth money. Not having to play a stupid Cajon=priceless
Hey Matt.
Did you tryed this? What is your conclusion? I have a VERY sensitive neighbors also. Share your opinion please.
@@reneandrensennirod I have 2 of these pedals now and I absolutely love them. I got mine used and bought both for under the price of buying 1 brand new, was lucky and got very good deal. These have definitely helped with my sound issues, these still to need good vibration transfer prevention. I use a drum rug with thick foam padding underneath
this is basically a cheap alternative of a direct drive pedal. mine is a Roland TD 1kv one. old technology but yes the same concept. p.s. I bought my kit after watching tons of videos from your channel. I play on a v kit and I love it. thanks
Hello Justin - tip top informative review as per usual.
Practical question Justin - how well does it “stick” to the floor and not creep across it??
Thanks Owen :) I didn't notice any moment during my tests :)
65 Drums Awesome - thanks Justin 👍
Just bought a brand new in box 📦 KT-10 and a PD-120 snare drum on FB marketplace for 200$ I’m extremely happy with my purchase!!! This reall makes much less noise and vibrations than my Kd-9 and my junk 40$ bass drum pedal that came with my td-11kv. The pedal is very smooth and the board is long enough to do heel/toe easily. I wish I had another 450$ I could have bought the red SPD-SX special edition for 650. I did have that much however I already have a strike multipad and that would have been all of my money at the moment. I would have been going hungry this week, but playing on new sick gear. I’m probably going to be kicking myself tomorrow, probably could have sold it for a profit, however I might have to sit on it for awhile to recoup my investment. Or sell my strike multipad to keep Roland, w/e. Definitely getting rid of my KD-9, however until then I can have both of them hooked up and play double bass with just one plug taken up, because the KT-10 can daisy chain another pedal. Justin is totally correct, playing on that 12” snare instead of that small pdx-8 makes a huge difference. The pad makes my pdx-6 /8’s look tiny and like toys. Definitely going upgrade my old Alesis DM-6 rubber pad to a pdx-8 . If I didn’t have my multipad on left side I would use it as a side snare
Got two of these and love them. Easy to get to gigs and can leave the kick pad behind!
Nice review, thank you very much!
I just picked this up for £169 here in the U.K... watched this and pulled the trigger
Thank you! Super helpful video!
The Yamaha KU100 is awesome as a accessory pedal (cowbell, aux snare, fx pedal) got mine for $55 new. woudn't use it as a dedicated kick pedal though.
Average Jack Media haiii is it KU100 work with SPD sx?
I ordered one when I bought my TD-11. It's great for a light weight, on the go type of set I'm going for. I'm not an experienced drummer so I can't really get into how it differs from a real kick pedal.
Hi Justin thanks for the wonderful review.
I would suggest the roland noise eaters i own some and they really reduce the noise that came from the pedals. Have a nice weekend !
Thanks Mickey :) I've tried the noise eater pedals, but not the platforms yet. I've heard they are great
Then you won't eat for a month because they are so expensive! I solved my problem: went to a store, bought a carpet for less than 10$, bought 2 pieces of cork to act like noise eaters for my double bass and hi hat pedals, and BOOM, no noise at all except from beaters beating the hell out of my KD-9. Simple solution.
LeToplache007 great man! :)
I just bought them a year ago but thanks for the info.
Mickey Ram no problem. Sure they are probobly still much better, but this is a solution for someone who doesn't want to spend almost 100 for a carpet.
I bought a used kit last year that came with a KT-10 (sold the kit kept the kick). There is one problem I found with it that was particularly annoying, for me anyway... I play heel up and when I rested my heel on the pedal if I didn't do it very carefully it triggered the kick, which was bad.
The triggira krig is also a great option for a quite bass drum for the people downstiars. I have one and i think it feels pretty good, and it was 100 bucks canadian. you have to do a little bit of fine tuning once you get it but i think it's a great option.
I also couldn't believe how small it was when I got mine in the mail. It's also very sturdy my pedal never slides around when im using it.
I’ve got one, just for ease of portability on small gigs… but you are correct, I struggle trying to play fast doubles on it( I’m not that good on a standard pedal) but I really find this hard to play fast on… unless, maybe I’m using wrong technique 😊
Just a point of clarity- the KT-10 came out well before the KT-9. The KT-9 came out in April 2016. The KT-10 came out in April of 2014, so the KT-10 is actually 2 years older.
Thanks for a thorough review!
Has anybody tried Roland KT-10 with Alesis Stirke Multipad? Are they compatible? I'm currently looking for a quiet kick pedal option for my Alesis SMP and cannot find information on whether this pedal would fit. I appreciate it if you might help!
Those types are nice to put aside the acoustic bass drum when incorporting electrics on acoustic setup. They should fit perfectly aside the other pedal
I want one of these next to my main kick pedal kinda under floor tom for hybrid kit
My issue also. Also looking at the Triggera Krigg trigger. Do you know anything about these?
I would use this pedal for an additional trigger like a tambourine sound to it
An acoustic drummer could use it as a side kick for a digital sound too
Could you use it as a snare n open hat sound?
Cool video, just one little thing: The KT-9 is not the previous version, it came out after the KT-10.
Thanks for the clarification
I chose it for portability - a good balance between being close to the real thing in the smallest package possible.
Will the KT10 work with a DTX 502 module? Looks really well made!
Seb B. Thanks
Hi, I have a tendency to use the ball of my foot and rest the beater on the kick drum. I am having problems with my Roland KD-180L bouncing and double triggering and I am going out of mind. How do you think this pedal will work with my style of playing? Thank you so much for a response. You seem very knowledgeable.
Try to set THR to minimum or maximum on module. Find what means THR on alesis nitro max kit and try find it in yr kit
I have acoustic kit and I use it like aux trigger left to my hi hat, i love it , the feel is great is very quiet also it uses little space it is why i bought because i had pedal plus pad and they gave me a Lot problems with the legs stand.
Hi, Nice preview. My question is ; Roland KT-9 linked with Roland KT-10, as a double pedal kick drum?
Would a Yamaha textured cellular silicone snare pad going into a ddrum ddti interface play nice with super drummer 3? It's piezo-switch-switch on a TRS right?
Id really like to try this. Still using 2 kd7s chained together which I like but this looks interesting.
I have one. I live in apartment so I had to sacrifice the tower. The TK- 10 is a great option.
Junior Cigano I had a KD9 (tower) and was looking into this pedal. Went on eBay and got a Hart Dynamics bass drum instead. Has a 10" mesh head on it, super sturdy frame and hardly any internal guts so it doesn't make that same thud sound as the tower units do while still giving the feel of a normal kick. Just a thought if you ever want the feel/look of a real bass drum again and want the same low noise level
The pedal is good. Quiet enough not to disturb neighbours. But as you said pedal is hard, it is not possible to hit twice quickly. There are ways to soften the pedal, like removing the metal pieces in the beater but this time the beater becomes so light that, if you don't kick hard the hits don't register.
Still it is the best option if you live in an apartment. Kinda realistic and quiet. (I have it btw)
Can you use this pedal as a hi-hat controller for a Roland octopad ?
also looks cool for a mini kit regarding taking up space when you travel
That's true
looks like a great solution if ultra-portability is a priority
I use this in a hybrid set up so I have less to lug around, great for a second kick for me
Does anyone know if/how the KT-10 could be used to trigger drum sounds on something like the Maschine MK series controllers? Is something like a midi converter box required?
I saw a guy say he tried w his mk3 and it didn't work. no idea about using a convertor box
Indeed, it didn't work with my MK3 either
Is there a dedicated video of your micro set-up?
would you recommend this as a kick trigger for the nord pad3. im not worried about neighbors or volume. i just want a good feel like im hitting something and can get a good swing 8th notes with the kick for hip hop style and not take up a bunch of space.
I have this pedal left over from another kit. I’m in a situation now with no space. My question is this pedal compatible with the DD 75 Yamaha?
Justin..... do you know fr sure if this pedal,or the Yamaha Pedal that you mention, will work with an Alesis Command X Mesh kit? I can't seem to find definitive info anywhere, thought you might know. Thanks!
Does this work with Alesis e-kits, or only Roland ones? I'm looking for a beaterless double bass kick drum for an Alesis DM10 MKII pro, so I can cut down on noise vibrations going to my neighbour below. Can you recommend anything?
Can i use the Yamaha KU100 Beaterless Silent Kick Pedal for a hi-hat control for my old kat pad? What would you recommend?
Can you daisy chain this with a kick drum tower?
Yes
Hey Justin I'm debating of what kind of edrum should I get. I could buy a yamaha dtxreme 3 or roland td1kv. Both almost the same price what should I get?
10th comment, love the new intro, also do you think I should get a Kat kt4 or save up and get the alesis strike pro?
Shadow F. Mcloud- I have the Alesis strike pro and I had the Kat kt4 before it. If you want my opinion let me know?
Ray Ray Yeah that would be great
Shadow F. Mcloud- Depends what you're looking to do with it but no matter what the strike pro is far superior. That doesn't mean it doesn't have it's warts though. What are you looking to do with an e-kit is the most important question? Depending on how you answer I just might say neither and get the Roland td17kvx.
Ray Ray I'm a huge metal head that plays hard, so for one thing so I need it to take a beating. I'm mainly looking for a large kit with good sound, I haven't had a chance to try either rubber or mesh heads so I can't really judge one. So I'm just looking for a good sounding durable kit that works with double pedals that's decent sized with good sound
Shadow F. Mcloud- The strike pro would definitely fit you tastes then. Stay away from the rubber pads if you're a hard hitter, they will destroy your wrists. Honestly though it'll be best not to play edrums with the fury you use on an accoustic kit. If you're new to edrums then the strike pro maybe be a frustrating experience for you. You will need to dive deep into the module to get it going, especially the hihat.
Perhaps a stupid question, but can this pedal be used to trigger other sounds than kicks? I'm looking for a pedal to use on my acoustic kit along with my TD-9 module. I'd love to be able to trigger hand claps and such with my left foot.
Yes
Does it fit td-1k kit? Can you chain it to the Original kick pedal and use as a double bass in the td-1k???
Can u demo to setup the kt10 on the spd sx pro step by step.thanks
Is it possible to loosen the spring or to change footboard angle?
I have a Roland HD1 module, tried to connect my two KT10 but no sound is coming, despite saying it’s good for all Roland modules. Any ideas?
It won't work with HD1 - that kit is one of the few Roland kits that uses a force dependent resistor rather than a piezo for the kick trigger. Roland doesn't say that the KT10 will work with all units, they say it will work with all units that has a jack plug for the kick trigger. HD1 doesn't actually have this, does it? I thought the kick was hard wired in.
Another feature, this can be put under your floor Tom or next to your regular pedal
Very true!
is the kick pedal on the roland td1k velocity sensitive?
I'll take 2 please!
I have new KT10 pedal. Conect with Alesis samplepad 4 zons but dont work, why?
Can you use this with an alesis strike multipad pro
Is the triggera switch or Piezo?
So are any of you folks using a setup like this to play like Shakey Graves? 2 pedals: 1 bass and one tamborine?
Haiii i have a question, can i use yamaha KU100 to SPD SX?, thanks before
Hi,please how to connect le kt-10
Hey justin, is the KT9 compatible with alessis strike drum module?
Yup
@@65Drums Alrighty, I just bought one along with Alessis Strike pro. So excited, Finally after 3 years, i got a chance to convert my kit into an eletronic one
Please, do a review on your SPD 30 Octapad setup.
Love your channel. Just discovered recently
My main takeaway from this video: neighbors (for the most part) BLOW.
Hi, roland kt10 is compatibile with Yamaha dtx multi12?
cr7 cr7 Yes, I use that combo and the KT-10 works with the multi12 without any tweaking or configuration needed.
good kick from Roland controller I buy today my battery Roland ', good for another kick as a dual controller solution
Folks, just get the KT-10. I got a KT-9 with my Octapad, and while it works with the KT-10 in a dual-kick setup, it has an annoying "ghost" kick that ruins the dual kick rig. You want to be precise with your kicks. Just sell the KT-9 you got with your Octapad and go for a single or dual KT-10 setup.
do all electric kicks have the same sound?
No
You can remove the weights and make it a lighter feel.
Sweet thanks for the info :)
which is best kt 10 or kt 9
Anyone use one of these with a Yamaha module? You get dynamic control depending on how hard you hit etc?
You can change the resistance by placing the weights in a different position. It feels not much different to the bassdrum which came with my complete set.
Good info thanks :)
interesting. ima buy em.
First love your channel and watch every video but.....I completely disagree with your opinion of these types of pedals. I use them exclusively and as an edrum user I'm the complete opposite of you on these. Why use a bass drum pedal and a kick tower? You're missing out on the huge advantages of having an e-kit, the opportunity to use these types of pedals. I think they feel great, much more stable,way easier to transport and position, quieter, and painless to use. I don't know about you but those kick towers cause pain for me in my ankles and shins after long plays. You always say they are useless to you but you're not really giving them the chance to show you their advantages. You're a kick drum purist I get it but you can't tell me those kick towers, any of them, are really that great feeling. And I've tried most of them all brands so I'm not a novice. You still have an accoustic side to you and haven't fully given in to the darkside(e-drums). When you have you will realize the full potential of these types of kick pads.
Ray Ray That's honestly pretty true, man. I have noticed in the last two years of playing strictly electronic drums that my calves get fatigued sooner and that I tend to hold my ankle in an awkward "always cocked" position, like a permanent heel up style, when I play to make sure I'm getting the proper rebound I need. I've played with the tension of my pedal and the mesh head but it never seems to let up. I love my kick tower and the beefy look it gives my kit but I might end up checking one of these out sooner than later
Brian Homan- If you do try them make sure you give it a chance, 6 months maybe even a year. It takes time for your muscles to make the change, they're used to a certain way. I wouldn't challenge or argue the look, Justin wins that one but that's all in your mind you will flush it out. The big problem is, and I had it to, is we can't let go of the accoustic side. Edrums are a different instrument but for some reason we are obsessed with making them accoustic. Also the best part is you'll never have to worry about the creeping and wobble of a kick pad again. The kick pedal triggers stay put and never wobble. I use the KT-9 but the KT-10 functions much differently. Be aware of this as you may not like one but the other you may.
I'm here looking for a replacement because my ku100 is triggering 3 times when pressed because the fucking spring is bouncing like a basketball 😂
Have u try to set THR on module?
Also when ur not beating your foot should not be in the air. U have to lay the foot on pedal. Maybe thats the problem?
4:13 - How can you play with that big wad of stuff in your right pants pocket? I have to empty my pockets when I play so my hands don't get hung up on my leg!
Kt10 andSpd 20 pad adjusting
The price now went up to $330! 😮