How Erik Ten Hag's made Ajax Champions League contenders | Eurofiles
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- BBC Sport profiles Erik ten Hag's Ajax, who have made an impressive start to their Champions League campaign, leading to the coach being linked with a Premier League move.
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How Erik Ten Hag's made Ajax Champions League contenders | Eurofiles
You talk about Gravenberch but really Timber is the biggest revelation, this guy is an insanely calm tactical center back that just turned 20, already selected for the Dutch national squad. Remember the name!
Timber is incredibly underrated will be one of the best center backs in the world
Well said. Timber is calm even under pressure. If he would be 10 cms taller he would have everything to be worldclass.
Facts! Gravenberch hasn't played a good game for like 2 months now, while Timber is practically playing perfect games for almost an entire year. He's unreal. People should also talk about Martinez and Mazraoui. They could literally be midfielders with their insane technique and workrate. So many well-scouted players we have in our team right now, hopefully we go all the way!
@@rightuppercut1426 i feel like timbers height just adds to his agile and agressive style it would work if he was taller and stiffer
@@OfTece hes also very fortunate to have 3 south american beasts in the defence he gets to learn from a lot.
Love how all foreign people talking about Gravenberch while actually Timber is the much bigger talent imo. But that's only good for us. We will keep him longer haha
Ik hou veel liever timber hier dan Gravenberch. Staat er altijd en nooit iets van concentratie problemen die Gravenberch al ruim een half jaar heeft. Sws is Gravenberch Al heeel erg lang uit vorm
@@tiesjaja2938 precies
Haha 100% heerlijk om bij ajax om de paar jaar een helden squad te zien en daarna lekker cashen
What Overmars and van der Sar have done with Ajax, is really out of this world. Hats off to those 2
Yeah using the money they get from the government simply because they are the capitals club is really impressive
Wow bunch of fraud I'm ashamed that Ajax represents dutch football
@@casper6405 Let me guess, a Feyenoord supporter? Ajax isn't financially backed by the government at all. It's a company, on the stock market. The only funds they got from the government is the 'covid-losses-money', like every Dutch club does, and also most European clubs. No shame in that. Don't spread lies.
Yes, Ajax have basically been this excellent since the 2016/2017 season when they played brilliantly in the Europa League coached by Peter Bosz. Some credit to Bosz too, but mostly to Overmars and van Van der Sar.
@@casper6405 the most stupid and prejudiced answer i have ever seen. Know your facts ! Probably from rotterdam or lights go out eindhoven?
@@casper6405 I thought they only used it to pay for supporting staff such as kitchen and maintenance staff
i've been saying it, this ajax side is maybe better than the 2019 squad. Maybe not as much talent (of course there is still a lot of talent in the team), but definitely a lot more stable, tactically more developed and a roster with more depth.
Yea except for Antony, he is the biggest talent.
@@glenn6284 he isnt as good as Ziyech
@@jens2049 And also a lot younger
U are crazy
@@jens2049 they are 2 different types of players. I think it'd be better to compare him to Neres of 18/19 and in that case Antony is better
I agree Timber will become world class I've never seen a young defender make football look so easy personally he's better than most defender in the Premier league he just needs to prove it to the world
Absolute amazing club, how they can challenge the big money clubs with philosophy and style!
Cause they are a big money club themselves only our government supports them financially
They are the biggest frauds in dutch football history and dont deserve their titles
@@casper6405 And there he is again... spreading lies. Like i said before: Ajax isn't financially backed by the government at all. It's a company, on the stock market. The only funds they got from the government is the 'covid-losses-money', like every Dutch club does, and also most European clubs. No shame in that. Don't spread lies.
@@casper6405 lol stop it, you are emberrasing
@@casper6405 weer gelul van de bovenste plank van iemand die jaloers is op succes van ajax en denkt wat gevonden te hebben
If they win a UCL trophy.
Until then...
I support the rivals of Ajax: PSV Eindhoven. But even i am impressed by Ajax and if they win the CL it would be truly deserved. And a great revenge for the loss against Tottenham some years ago! We are proud here in the Netherlands of our clubs right now and Ajax is no exception!
Lekker man dit Nederlandse clubs soon on top met z’n alle ❤️❤️🤞🏿🇳🇱
Great to see the guys from “we talk Ajax” here. That channel will be well known soon.
Saying ten hag became this coach because of pep's influence is just simply wrong. Before he came to Bayern he was the head coach of a dutch second division side, which he brought to their first promotion in 20 years, while Overmars was technical director there! That combination of Overmars (technical director at ajax atm, not even mentioned in this video!) and ten hag is way more important than any influence Pep could've had
Thanks for having us on! 🦁 ❌❌❌ --- Agree with the comments too about Timber also being an exceptional talent just like Gravenberch. We have watched them both come through the youth ranks at Ajax and they both can make it big if they keep developing. Development of young players isn't always a straight line - both will keep improving.
Ajax can beat anyone in the Champions league. There are still teams I rate above Ajax though, mainly from England.
I don't know if playing in the Dutch league is an advantage or disadvantage. On the one hand weaker competition gives more opportunity to get young talent up to level, and more energy left for the CL. On the other hand, less top class competition to train yourself against.
Just looking at how they're doing in the Dutch league with much weaker competition, I'd see them as a title contender in the Bundesliga with BM edging them out. In the Prem, probably upper mid table?
Anyway, I'm not really a 1 team supporter, just hope Ziyech gets to shine a bit in the CL again as he did with Ajax and Ajax does well (like quarter finals or better) as they deserve it by their style of play.
Greetings from Amsterdam.
Playing in a weaker league in a small country will always be a disadvantage. The amount of money Ajax pulls together just pales in comparison to the big clubs.
Long term, Ajax can’t compete. Big clubs can. The only way they fall from grace for long is due to financial mismanagement or they get FIFA’d due to bribery of some shit.
All Ajax needs to fall is being forced to sell their players without scouting new young talent that’s able to replace/improve on the missing players. If they miss the CL as a result, it’ll be a big hit on their income.
It’s honestly a miracle they’ve been able to build another world class team this soon after their 2019 run. It’s no wonder Erik ten Hag is a wanted man atm.
Masha'ALLAH amazing truly GOD BLESS AJAX ✌️💖
the amount of academy players making it into the first team is insane. Gravenberch, Timber, Rensch, Mazraoui in the current squad but also De Ligt, Frenkie, Justin Kluivert, Donny van de Beek, Dest, Daley Blind, Sven Botman and more that I can’t remember right now
Sven botman never made it into the first team
Frenkie started at youth academy of Willem II, where he played only one single match for the first team. The coach didn't really saw much potential in him and eventually Ajax bought the then 18 years old de Jong for a whopping '1 euro'
@@NateVDZ plus a 15% sell on clause worth 8.6 million
daley blind is in current squad xd
Davy Klaassen also in the current squad
Yoooo WeTalk nice pull haha. From 200 views a video to the BBC. Hidden gems
Hands off our erik❌❌❌ hè wont go mid season
Don't worry fella we are happy to wait until the summer x
@@Mufc479 good mate, small clubs aren’t 1st priorities :)
@@tiesjaja2938 hahaha, onze Erik gaat niet naar kleine clubjes als man utd 😤
@@Mufc479 man utd small club 🤏
Honestly, the big thing ten Hag has that other trainers didn't have (Something I also see with Arne Slot at Feyenoord now) is being able to get results in the bad matches. That is one of the biggest differences Ajax always had in international football, basically needing too many chances to score.
Transfer policy obviously also went a long way in this, getting players like Tadic, Blind and Haller that have more experience and just do what needs to be done and mixing them with amazing talent like Anthony.
Much love from Amsterdam❌❌❌ dont u worry bout A thing…Cause every litt thing….
Gonna be alright, as Ajax lift the CL this season with Tadic scoring the winner
He won't downgrade to Manchester United btw
Downgrade? Ralf Rangnick is interim manager till summer and will be Director of Football at man utd after😂 Ten Hag will join man utd summer 2022 trust me
@Truth Seeker nobody does nowadays
@Truth Seeker imagine still thinking united is one of the best clubs in the world....
@Truth Seeker Ole dreamed big and got fired for being rubbish. Lol at Utd and their delusional fans
I wouldn't want to be the "quick fix or quick trash" manager some clubs are looking for these days.
With the talent, tactic genuis they have, and a little luck, they could easily reach the final.
Yes but not easily
Keep in mind that the media have said we were contenders because they just want attention and more viewers. We have a very good team, but we are not better then Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City and Bayern München. We can beat PSG and Real Madrid on a good day, but I am not convinced that we would knock them out either. We can beat all other teams tho. Just hoping for quarter, maybe semifinal, and then we will need a lot of luck to go further. We know that.
Secondly, Ten Hag already confirmed he won't leave Ajax before the summer. He is in a perfect spot right know, good team, everybody knows what he wants and what to do, the board and directors are supporting him. He needs time to build a squad and implement his vision, and he is smarter then to go to a club that is a mess when it comes to the board and directors, like Barca and Man United. He knows he wouldn't get the time to build a squad there. He will probably go to Germany, he speaks german, has worked there, and is a fan of German football.
I’m convinced on a good day Ajax can beat anyone. Of course you can’t expect them to be favourites with their budget, but with a bit of luck everything is possible. Also against the biggest teams.
hahah Jan your opinion is based on what?? Ajax can beat the hell out of any English team no one wants to play against AJAX. Chelsea needed 2 red cards and off side goal to just get a draw 4-4 most supporters went to find the exit not because they lost the game but they got humiliated like amateurs that is why they couldn't stand the embarrassment. So before making any opinion it is strongly recommended you first watch the whole game and if you then don't understand it try to win advice who are more knowledgeable and verify your opinion then comment. Did you also forget how Ajax played against mighty Bayern Munchen, Real Madrid , Juventus, Valencia ...I can go on and on. And another mistake in your story..we might as well loose from Dortmund , Beskitas and other mid tier clubs there is no guarantee another stupid conclusion you made there mate. No one should take you serious if you can't understand these simple facts.
@@confidential303 Time will learn us what's right or rong, it's only a vision. 😉
I think you still underestimate ajax a bit. Yeah those are incredibly hard teams to defeat, however the way our club play the game is a lot different than other teams. We demand the ball. We take possesion. I think on any given day we have the possibility to defeat anyone
Agree 100%. Well said. ❌❌❌
As a massive Ajax fan i can't really see them winning the CL just yet. They are amazing at the moment but it's probably that Dutch pessimism that keeps me from getting hurt. We had a real chance in 2018 and its typical that we got eliminated like that.
Don't get me wrong, im probably screaming the hardest from our entire street when they score.. but i just dont see it yet.
Ten Hag, like Van Gaal, is more of a Wenger type of coach that could probably not make an instant change in one or three matches but giving him a season or two time will result in an affordable squad with world class potential. I think Ten Hag likes the fact he has time to work towards something great. All those high profile club expectations of instant success with Koeman at Barca, Van Gaal at United and De Boer at almost any other club besides Ajax are dents or heavy damages in carreers and market value. He will probably not gamble.
Besides that, we still live in weird times with corona. The cards in which clubs will rise to the top will be shuffled and Ajax might rise above all one of these years again. That alone will keep him at Ajax till gaining a crown there. He has everything to lose right now by switching clubs.
Exactly the reason why he should not join man u
who's here after Marc Overmars the technical director renewed his contract to 2026. While Van der Sar is set to renew his contract to 2025 and talks of extending Ten Hag's contract by 1 year to 2024 with almost €100 million payout clause!
How easy people forget
11 Years Ago Cruyff said AJAX could return to the top of Europe.
If AJAX changes the back to the old ways how the Youth are trained because it's first and foremost about developing skills and not winning ,
AJAX shouldn't buy players for millions if they aren't instantly adding to the team,
and to put a basic salarycap on the players but also work with incentives for achieved teamresults until there is more financial breathing room
He was made a fool of in the National Press & by Football Pundits
and the so called Ajax fans who were always envious of JC
But... Ajax's current success is proving Cruyff wrong. Overmars removed the salarycap, and from that point on things started getting better. Yes, a lot of the success is because of youth players, but older players bought for millions, like Blind, Tadic, Klaassen, but also talents like Ziyech, Neres and Antony were and are pivotal to Ajax's resurgence
What incentives? That’s just an excuse to pay people cheap. What happens if they fail? Well, they get paid cheap.
Incentives is pointless.
BBC just making an ad for us Man Utd fans to want him even more knowing the board will probably bottle it.
Welcome to Manchester Erik 👹🔴
Everyone talking about Gravenberch meanwhile Timber is out there with the potential to become on of the best backs in football
2:18 They're playing without goalkeepers? Now that IS unusual...
First Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool, Bayern Munich, maybe even Real Madrid and then Ajax. But lets not say that Ajax is a real contender, quarter-finals should be possible.
Any team that can make it to the quarter finals is a contender.
I can't really imagine Ajax would get past Bayern, Liverpool or ManCity... then Chelsea is way too good at the moment too
@@vwisse There will be 8 people in the quarter finals. I dont think there are 8 real contenders.
But if you want to be technical, every team is a 'contender'.
@@DaanP95 How many contenders are there in the quarter finals? Of the clubs you mentioned in the 2019 season Ajax and Bayern were in the same group, two draws, the game in Munchen Ajax was the better team. Liverpool last season won twice narrowly, one with a easy given penalty and one due to Onana blunder, both matches Ajax was the better team. Against Chelsea Ajax was robbed in both matches by the referee, in London Ajax completely outclassed them till the fatal double red card. Real Madrid was humiliated by Ajax. Only team Ajax didn't face in the last 3-4 years is City. Against all the other teams you mention as contenders Ajax was either equal or superior with Ten Hag as manager. This season together with Liverpool and Bayern Ajax has a flawless group so far with only wins. Ajax is one of the highest scoring teams and among the teams with the least conceded goals. What more does a team if it reaches the quarter finals have to do to be a contender? Win the champions league perhaps, City has never done that so that can't be a criteria. So what exactly makes a club a contender other then your personal preferences
@@vwisse Niiiice
United fans u ready😎😎😎😎
I would say Ajax is 1 of the top 5 contenders, alongside Liverpool, Bayern, Chelsea and Man City.
P.S.G and Real.M?- both are overhyped, but in terms of abillities on the field- they are not even half as good as any of the top 5 mentioned above, in my view.
Everyone in this video talking about Ajax as if they know anything 😂
The video doesn't really answer the question 'how' does it
the BOSS ❌❌❌
I think if Ajax had a quatre of the budget of Manchester City we would win the Champions League annually......
they sold also Dest (barcelona) and Dolberg (nice)
don't forget overmars they bought neres antony martinez alvarez haller all good (pretty young)purchases they spent there money well not spending here and there money like Arsenal does, pepe lacazette etc. same as Barcelona.
Overmars has really been incredible
I am a fan of Ajax but I don't believe Ajax will win the Champions League. Hope so... but it is not realistic.
Take it easy guys....we aren't there yet...we need bigger victims like Liverpool and City.
We welcome minnows like you, we'd play the b team
They try to be like Bayern munich, taking all the best players from there top opponents in the league Eredivisie
They are not contenders. But should do fine. May be Quarter final or semis.
Contenders are Bayern Chelsea City PSG and Madrid.
Ajax are easily better than PSG and almost equal to chelsea i dont think u watch Ajax games
Agree, wouldn't say we're contenders but neither are PSG imo.
@@rubenjanse3065 yes exactly! But still… anything can happen, ajax has a well balanced team
Give us PSG in the 8ths please
@@OfTece Ajax wouldn't even be the same league as Chelsea, not a chance.
For what is really (and unfortunately) a “selling” club Ajax are simply in a league of their own. Player after player after player comes through their academy….oh yeah and 4 European/Champions League wins as well!!!
just because you have in a video different people speaking with iphone wireless microphones, doesnt mean that you are making a quality thing......The tittle is how erik ten hag made ajax champions league contenders, and there is no argument whatsoever, but just a bunch of fans telling random things without any expertise in football coaching and without any interesting thing that really tells "How Erik Ten Hag made Ajax Ch.L contenders". dissapointment from BBC sport and the quality of the video.
I'd like to see him at United as we need someone like him
your wish came true
We are crying😢😢😢we're in pain😢
Man utd should get him next season
Ajax never are the favourites for the highest European prize but they are a dark horse…….
never ? you forget the past
Dear BBC, any idea what could be causing record numbers of young football players to collapse on-field? What could be the common cause 🐘🤔?
he brieds footbal
blind on rb mazraoui on lb that you have blind (slow) and Antony (fast) same as tadic and mazraoui than
Hope the stupid glazers see this and understand that ETH is the man they should sign
nope its takes not money not a coach it takes a club teaching kids footbal and football vision a way to play from early age ...all ajax sqauds from all ages teached the same
Step 1: Draw Sporting, Dortmund and Besiktas
But Feyenoord is a nicer club
Calling them one of the favourites to win the Champions League seems a bit too farfetched if you ask me. Sure it's a talented team, but I doubt they can compete with the like of Manchester City, Bayern Munich and PSG for example.
Ajax proved they can. Maybe Ajax isn't the number one favorite but Ajax is up there.
Ajax can compete with a PSG. Ajax is more a team and has a better teamplay in regards to the eleven individuals at PSG. But of course individuals like Mbappe, Neymar and Messi can win every match for their teams, even if they have a poor performance all together.
In the 18/19 season when we reached the semi finals we played Bayern in the group stage, two draws and the away game in Germany we really should have won. Ajax is best against teams that want to play football. Defensive teams are a much bigger problem. I personally rather see Ajax face City over Atletico for example
Manchester United Here We Go!
Short answer : nope
Long answer : nope
What’s the question. There isn’t a question in the title of the video 🤦♂️
@@aaaabbbb2483 exactly 😂😂🙈
WIJ ZIJN SUPER AJAX AMSTERDAM❌❌❌
That was peter bosz...
Dit maakt je als Ajaxcied/ geboren en getogen Amsterdammer zeer trots op je cluppie en stad...
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Ajacied*
Weer wat geleerd, thx!
Ten Hag we need you at Manchester United,he basically a new Pep
He can’t speak english forget about him, he will probably go to germany after Ajax
@@wesselaerts1964 He can learn to speak English, there is nothing wrong with that.....
@@wesselaerts1964 I’m pretty sure he can . Even if it’s not perfect
@@micah0190 Erik ten hag’s communication is an act even in the Netherlands. He will be a LVG 2.0 if he go’s to Man U. He is waiting for a job at bayern, then he will leave Ajax
ManU is obliteraring coaches and players under current ownership and management. It’s like one big graveyard. The good old Ferguson days are gone. As a coach or player you must be insane to go there. Ask Ronaldo.
Man United please go and get Ten Hag.
Please no. Ajax play much better football with a nicer style. Manu is only money. Afwul. Go AJAX XXX
@@uitlegoefeningen896 Hopefully United will get Ten Hag and Van Der Sar in the summer. It's only a matter of time.
@@nicklaw8 Doubt it. Ten Hag needs a stable management that supports him, and that is pretty much the opposite of United. He is smarter then that, will probably go to Germany. Van der Sar might be more positive, but I seriously doubt he will do it under the Glazers. Really hope they won't go, the triangle Overmars, vd Sar and Ten Hag is the best that happened to Ajax in 25 years. They would be impossible to replace, especially the first 2.
@@janvisser4132 The whole of United from the footballing side needs proper re-structure from Top to bottom including the Scouting system. They should just look at what Ajax are doing. Get proper footballing brains and people in-charge at the TOP of their game and Manchester United will be successful again in the future. Please Van Der Sar and Ten Hag come to United we really need your help. If we can get Overmars as well even better.
@@nicklaw8 I don't think Man U need the Ajax system. Ajax gets way less money then United, they know that they can't compete with the big clubs financially, so they build a squad of talented players, perform very good once in 3 years, sell their top players and build a new team of talented players. United needs to perform every year, they can buy the good players. They should improve their youth system, but it's not their only option like for Ajax. They should look at Bayern Munchen or Real Madrid.
Ajax is a joy to watch. Clubs with a superior squad and tactics are: Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City, Bayern. Behind those are PSG because of superior individual skill, and Man United with their athleticism. Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid are still top ranked Spanish teams.
And Inter is still amazing.
Only the first five teams I’ve mentioned are superior and every other team requires a bit of luck and/or form to beat and are pretty much even.
I predict quarter finales if PSG isn’t met in the 1/8th. Quarter final on and only tough shells are there to crack.
Eredivise is weak competition. Facts.
Huh????
Feyenoord is NO rival of Ajax! That ended long, long ago!
Feyenoord en ajax will always be rivals, especially between the fans
Feyenoord is like Ajax' little nephew or something. Or maybe like a kid from the same neighborhood.
@@bundy6622 exactly and as a Ajax fan I hope Feyenoord will catch up soon. It's a great club. PSV however.....
@@hiufgterde But isn't that the problem with calling it rivals. We Ajax-fans pity Feyenoord more than true hatred. I hate Psv and want them to lose every game. I don't feel that way with Feyenoord anymore. Hatred is truly onesided with Feyenoord, meaning them hating us.
@@hiufgterde
I wouldnt go as far to say that Feyenoord is a great club, but atleast they are real football club with an identity unlike PSV.
Champions League contenders 😂😂
We're not contenders though. The team is not THAT good
De bal is rond - het ligt maar net aan wie je loot, wie er geblesseerd is en de huidige vorm. Het team kan groeien in het toernooi, in 2018/19 had je dat ook niet verwacht. Maar wie weet, ik ben benieuwd!
Pmsl your dreaming
Get Ten Haag for Man Utd. Not poch, not some ex player who is a yes man. Get in ten haag. All big clubs have their favorites now and Ten Haag will be swooped upon if anyone is sacked.
It's pretty easy to look up how his name is spelled, you know
Keep on dreaming Mancs... Ten Hag will only leave Ajax for a proper club.
PSV Eindhoven is the biggest club in the Netherlands!!❤️❤️❤️
Ze hebben nog nooit van jullie gehoord man 😂
Isn't and never will be, nobody over the border heard of you because you playing in Europe plays no role every year. 😂
Haha you have a great sense of humor 👍
PSV has won the Dutch league the most times this century, but most people in Europe dont know that. Also PSV was in the semi-final of the CL in 2005 and they won it 1988.
Haha ahh. Wil je met de grote jongens spelen?
Gravenberch is mad overrated. This guy was the worst player in this campaign so far
WZAWZDB!
Ten Hag did? 🤣🤣🤡
What 😳 champions league favorite where ,when not 21,22 season, be reel Ajax is not going to win the champions league any time soon.
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You can also be proud that the made this about ajax, don't verghet there are English Ajax fans. 😋
AFCA❌❌❌
Feyenoord
"our rivals, Feyenoord".. Yeah right
Kutclub is het.
😂 Oh my god wat een trieste reactie het schuim staat vast op je mond van jaloersheid. En even ter info voor jouw vanavond weer gewonnen 1-2.😘