The intro is still funny cause I can see the deep breath concentration on the let's dive in part. Looks like your "Ni" put a nice strong hold or control on that Se making it look smooth but yet heavily calculated. 👍🙂 nice Hey Jinx is that a sim racing gamers chair you're sitting on ?
@@RRRsimracing hahahaha. Yes, it's a gamers' chair but if your question is whether I am a gamer myself, then no, not much. I just got it from my boyfriend.
@@INFJinxed Oh ok. Yeah I just noticed it and was curious that's all. ok Great video btw Jinx keeping it up. You have the perfect character for a hugh channel. good stuff
Thank you really for this comprehensive explanation. Since the last year I'm struggling with understanding the principles that have led to Jungian personality theory and how it has changed through years with different interpretations. Even if I didn't read anything in particular yet (my fault), I'm trying to learn something more every day watching videos, explanations and always taking a look at myself. I've also taken some tests trying to understand how specifically questions were asking something (e.g. MBTI tests and a socionics one, and although I've 'scored' INFP result, there's something about functions that make me think it's not correct). I would like to understand in particular the relation between intuition and feeling, because I'm always driven by overthinking inside more than expressing my thoughts (it can happen naturally in any moment), and only if there're people around me I need consciously in some way to correspond to their desires and doubts and eventually to solve problems through my desire of analysis (and for this reason I think to share cognitive functions more with INFJ type). If I assume intuition is a perceiving function, I wonder about if in those cases I'm more about Fe (as auxiliary mode to Ni) or maybe normally I'm more about Ne because of Fi (I know surely that I like to study and to analyse people's psyche in a dedicated, rational and scientifically approach as much as possible, because I have faith in human brain and I recognize research's values that could be helpful to a better understanding of human nature). I would like to make a contribution with psychological studies in future (I hope so).
It’s not that you don’t know how something tastes when mixing food, it’s that your not paying attention to the taste and your eating to be fed while thinking of other things. I do it all the time. I can basically eat anything but when I evaluate what I like or dislike it’s based mostly on the nutritional benefits of the food. ;) -INTJ
This sounds all too familiar. I like good food, and don't care for the flavor to be off, but I'm not eating for the experience of eating. In fact eating out seems like a hassle. I eat for fuel.
INFJ- Seems that Ni is the knowing, the answer from which one’s question that can traced quickly backwards through its myriad contributing details to the inquiry. It sees all the paths and options without getting bogged down in their details and instead choosing the path forward, the knowing, and the expression of its desire. Before I started meditating regularly, Ni would hijack my presence whenever it felt like it. If I was driving down the highway, talking to my boss or ex-wife, just whenever it needed to have its time to do it’s thing uninterrupted.
I discovered that I'm an Ni dom on tests and I'm still unsure of my type but rather than my teacher typing me I chose to type myself so that I understand both cognitive functions and myself better. I'm still learning but you're the only person so far that explained Ni well enough for me to understand what it authentically meant and trust me I've been at it for months now. Thank you so much.
@@ChantelStays that's because it really is a mystery... Something that is an abstract concept can't be explained cohesively through words by everyone and that creates ambiguity.
@@ChantelStays hahah yes. It's difficult to explain as a concept and we don't understand it but we don't even realise that we use it excessively without even knowing what it is.
This is one of the most amazing explanations of Ni I have ever seen! 8:06 ''This why Ni types are the most disconnected from their bodies'' - So dead on....I recently answered a questoin about this on Quora in the INFJ space. I'll be researching something I find fascinating such as your video here and not notice my stomach growling at me becasuse it's been hours since I ate. Or I'll lose track of time and not get enough sleep as I should etc. lol And yes, Ni is not ''mystical or magical'' It's just one cognintive function out of 8 with it's own strenghts and weaknesses just as any other. So well said! Looking forward to more of your videos :)
Fascinating, you are really good at this ! The way you find the right words to describe the abstract and dense literature of Carl Jung on this subject, it's simply a amazing, bravo 👏 Take care 🍀
You say the goal of Si/Ni is to secure and that the goal of Se/Ne is to explore. I think this is compelling but only partly true. It seems to me the former’s goal is to avoid being explored, and the latter’s is to avoid being secured. We see these tendencies in Ni/Si doms being very private about their intuitions and sensory experiences almost as though to not give themselves away. Ne/Se doms by contrast tend to avoid being controlled or pinned down by external forces, usually by seeking out less restrictive exceptions (via sensory or metaphysical exploration). But I think the utility of all perceiving functions is the same: gather info and use it for avoidance, whereas judging functions appear to be more oriented toward affirmative or assertive action (not avoidance, but approach judgements). In this sense Fe/Fi and Te/Ti seem to start and remain neutral toward an object unless they judge it inconsequential or beneficial to approach it). Te/Ti and Fe/Fi don’t seem to deal with avoidance, more indifference, acceptance, rejection or integration.
That's actually a very insightful explanation... I think it's very evident if i see how my ENTP friend would do anything at all to avoid feeling trapped even if it's dangerous and any INxJ won't even consider entering a situation unless they're familiar with it to an extent or will not stop unless they get familiar with it to feel at ease.
Great video as usual. I like it when you talk about Carl Jung's perspective on things and translate for us, because quite frankly, the language he uses can be difficult to follow. Being an INTP, it's hard for me to grasp Ni, but I can see how Ni comes out in my ISTP husband. Too many ideas stress him out (because he thinks he has to implement every idea, whereas I, with Ne, just like to have lots of ideas and maybe some will come to fruition and many will not, and that's OK with me). And he has tunnel vision with his goals. It is often hard to open his mind to doing things differently in the long term and convincing him that it's OK for your vision or goals to change over time. I on the other hand, with Si, have a hard time opening my mind to how things should be done in the physical world, where with his Se, he is more openminded to the physical world.
Woah minute 8 is spot on ... I don't pay attention to physical things that happen to me ... and whenever I do feel pain or hunger ... or any sensation I wonder 🤔 why and where it came from ... the question 🤔 is more important then the feeling It's hard to explain which is why I like gym training , helps me to focus and reconnect with my body
It is romantic only because its difficult to manage..like both ne and ni Generally ne is even more mysterious.. The gnosis is so undeceloped we hardly notice at all.. I think thats true Ty.for this It helped me
Btw, I'm interested in how memories are experienced by various groups. I'm a 65 yo INTJ & all my memories are like "time stamps". They're like an abstract gut feeling, in a way. Or, like an inner thought/feeling that is sometimes connected to a mental image (like a vague photo). This has always been the case with me. My entire family were S types & now when we speak about our past, they're very specific with things that I don't even recall .. but then something inside is jogged & I faintly recall that (such as how a Xmas tree was decorated, or what was happening during a celebration). Those things are not my focus, and I wouldn't remember them had they not been pointed out. Instead, I'll remember the vibe in the room, or what I was thinking or what various people were involved with. My S children recall very specific things about their upbringing, such as what they received as birthday gifts, what was experienced on a family outing, etc. For me, I recall the birthday (sometimes) or the outing, but only in terms of the big picture (such as the home we lived in, or the place we visited) & perhaps what was happening in my life at that time. I don't ever hear this talked about when people discuss MBTI, but I find it extremely interesting in how we recall this type of information.
I sometimes ascribe introverted intuition as a kind of inward swirl of object awareness in my mind. A question I would ask well after I knew the answer already would be," What couldn't X be if X were true?" It's inductive sometimes. I sometimes wonder if extroverted introversion is the opposite of the inward swirl analogy where I would ask," What would X also be if X was true?" Another thought I had for INTJs, Ni-doms, or hero Ni functioners experiencing tunnel vision would be of Cyclop's superpower from X-Men. Aligning the dangers of tunnel visioning with the fear of seeing the world with one's very own INTJ eyes intersects loss of sight of the bigger picture. -INFJ
Actually most infps I know have less physical awareness than infjs. I think this is because at least by a certain age most infjs have incorporated se well enough otherwise yes their awareness would be severely lacking. Which is not something I notice with most infjs. Also intps have Very low awareness of their surrounds
@@INFJinxed thank you so much. I didn't see it mentioned specifically in the link, do you discuss cognitive functions. I'm still trying to be sure of my type. I'm kind of in between two but they both have completely different functions. So I feel like I should know but I'm so torn! I feel like understanding which functions I use will really help me and also help me have a reference point for typing others too.
@@claytonia1586 i don’t offer a typing service per se. However, I talk about MBTI and enneagram as part of the process whenever the client is interested in it. 😊
@@INFJinxed Even if you don't type people, you can still help the person understand the cognitive functions, discussing how they work with each one, how each one comes out, etc, and that might help guide your client to better understanding of themselves and maybe being able to figure out their type.
This is a debate. Personally, I believe we access the shadow functions through our main ones, sorta mimicking the shadow ones. On the other hand, I think there is an interesting relationship between hero and demon - they seem to shield the psyche and ensure the necessary balance.
@@INFJinxed My understanding, at least for myself as an INTP with Ti first and Fi 8th, my Fi seems to only come out of my subjective logical framework. For instance, I do not like or value anything that doesn't make logical sense to me, or without reason. I can give you a reason for everything that I like or value, whereas people with Fi first often just like something without seeming to need to come to a reason for liking it. I don't know how that would work the other way around, how Ti comes out for people with Fi first...
What else would you add about Ni?
The intro is still funny cause I can see the deep breath concentration on the let's dive in part. Looks like your "Ni" put a nice strong hold or control on that Se making it look smooth but yet heavily calculated. 👍🙂 nice
Hey Jinx is that a sim racing gamers chair you're sitting on ?
@@RRRsimracing hahahaha. Yes, it's a gamers' chair but if your question is whether I am a gamer myself, then no, not much. I just got it from my boyfriend.
@@INFJinxed Oh ok. Yeah I just noticed it and was curious that's all. ok Great video btw Jinx keeping it up. You have the perfect character for a hugh channel. good stuff
Thank you really for this comprehensive explanation. Since the last year I'm struggling with understanding the principles that have led to Jungian personality theory and how it has changed through years with different interpretations. Even if I didn't read anything in particular yet (my fault), I'm trying to learn something more every day watching videos, explanations and always taking a look at myself. I've also taken some tests trying to understand how specifically questions were asking something (e.g. MBTI tests and a socionics one, and although I've 'scored' INFP result, there's something about functions that make me think it's not correct). I would like to understand in particular the relation between intuition and feeling, because I'm always driven by overthinking inside more than expressing my thoughts (it can happen naturally in any moment), and only if there're people around me I need consciously in some way to correspond to their desires and doubts and eventually to solve problems through my desire of analysis (and for this reason I think to share cognitive functions more with INFJ type). If I assume intuition is a perceiving function, I wonder about if in those cases I'm more about Fe (as auxiliary mode to Ni) or maybe normally I'm more about Ne because of Fi (I know surely that I like to study and to analyse people's psyche in a dedicated, rational and scientifically approach as much as possible, because I have faith in human brain and I recognize research's values that could be helpful to a better understanding of human nature). I would like to make a contribution with psychological studies in future (I hope so).
I think introverted intuition is like a mental distillery, it is extracting the essences of abstract concepts.
It’s not that you don’t know how something tastes when mixing food, it’s that your not paying attention to the taste and your eating to be fed while thinking of other things. I do it all the time. I can basically eat anything but when I evaluate what I like or dislike it’s based mostly on the nutritional benefits of the food. ;) -INTJ
This sounds all too familiar. I like good food, and don't care for the flavor to be off, but I'm not eating for the experience of eating. In fact eating out seems like a hassle. I eat for fuel.
INFJ- Seems that Ni is the knowing, the answer from which one’s question that can traced quickly backwards through its myriad contributing details to the inquiry. It sees all the paths and options without getting bogged down in their details and instead choosing the path forward, the knowing, and the expression of its desire.
Before I started meditating regularly, Ni would hijack my presence whenever it felt like it. If I was driving down the highway, talking to my boss or ex-wife, just whenever it needed to have its time to do it’s thing uninterrupted.
I discovered that I'm an Ni dom on tests and I'm still unsure of my type but rather than my teacher typing me I chose to type myself so that I understand both cognitive functions and myself better. I'm still learning but you're the only person so far that explained Ni well enough for me to understand what it authentically meant and trust me I've been at it for months now. Thank you so much.
happy to know that!
I've been at this for 20 years and still find Ni to be a mystery.
@@ChantelStays that's because it really is a mystery... Something that is an abstract concept can't be explained cohesively through words by everyone and that creates ambiguity.
@@saloni.sharma ...and as a Ni user...it's even more hilarious how abstract it can be. Foreign yet natural.
@@ChantelStays hahah yes. It's difficult to explain as a concept and we don't understand it but we don't even realise that we use it excessively without even knowing what it is.
This is one of the most amazing explanations of Ni I have ever seen! 8:06 ''This why Ni types are the most disconnected from their bodies'' - So dead on....I recently answered a questoin about this on Quora in the INFJ space. I'll be researching something I find fascinating such as your video here and not notice my stomach growling at me becasuse it's been hours since I ate. Or I'll lose track of time and not get enough sleep as I should etc. lol And yes, Ni is not ''mystical or magical'' It's just one cognintive function out of 8 with it's own strenghts and weaknesses just as any other. So well said! Looking forward to more of your videos :)
Love your work and dedication to explaining the types in a easily digestible and comprehensive way. Thank you very much! Much Love!
Fascinating, you are really good at this ! The way you find the right words to describe the abstract and dense literature of Carl Jung on this subject, it's simply a amazing, bravo 👏
Take care 🍀
You say the goal of Si/Ni is to secure and that the goal of Se/Ne is to explore. I think this is compelling but only partly true. It seems to me the former’s goal is to avoid being explored, and the latter’s is to avoid being secured.
We see these tendencies in Ni/Si doms being very private about their intuitions and sensory experiences almost as though to not give themselves away. Ne/Se doms by contrast tend to avoid being controlled or pinned down by external forces, usually by seeking out less restrictive exceptions (via sensory or metaphysical exploration).
But I think the utility of all perceiving functions is the same: gather info and use it for avoidance, whereas judging functions appear to be more oriented toward affirmative or assertive action (not avoidance, but approach judgements). In this sense Fe/Fi and Te/Ti seem to start and remain neutral toward an object unless they judge it inconsequential or beneficial to approach it). Te/Ti and Fe/Fi don’t seem to deal with avoidance, more indifference, acceptance, rejection or integration.
That's actually a very insightful explanation... I think it's very evident if i see how my ENTP friend would do anything at all to avoid feeling trapped even if it's dangerous and any INxJ won't even consider entering a situation unless they're familiar with it to an extent or will not stop unless they get familiar with it to feel at ease.
I'm fascinated by the Ni of my INTJ and NFJ friends.
They tend to dive deep and give great advice.
Great video as usual. I like it when you talk about Carl Jung's perspective on things and translate for us, because quite frankly, the language he uses can be difficult to follow.
Being an INTP, it's hard for me to grasp Ni, but I can see how Ni comes out in my ISTP husband. Too many ideas stress him out (because he thinks he has to implement every idea, whereas I, with Ne, just like to have lots of ideas and maybe some will come to fruition and many will not, and that's OK with me). And he has tunnel vision with his goals. It is often hard to open his mind to doing things differently in the long term and convincing him that it's OK for your vision or goals to change over time. I on the other hand, with Si, have a hard time opening my mind to how things should be done in the physical world, where with his Se, he is more openminded to the physical world.
Woah minute 8 is spot on ... I don't pay attention to physical things that happen to me ... and whenever I do feel pain or hunger ... or any sensation I wonder 🤔 why and where it came from ... the question 🤔 is more important then the feeling
It's hard to explain which is why I like gym training , helps me to focus and reconnect with my body
@명작 희승 🤣
It is romantic only because its difficult to manage..like both ne and ni
Generally ne is even more mysterious..
The gnosis is so undeceloped we hardly notice at all..
I think thats true
Ty.for this
It helped me
Ni stabilizes the abstract
Excellent information delivered in a very understandable way. Thank you!
Btw, I'm interested in how memories are experienced by various groups. I'm a 65 yo INTJ & all my memories are like "time stamps". They're like an abstract gut feeling, in a way. Or, like an inner thought/feeling that is sometimes connected to a mental image (like a vague photo). This has always been the case with me. My entire family were S types & now when we speak about our past, they're very specific with things that I don't even recall .. but then something inside is jogged & I faintly recall that (such as how a Xmas tree was decorated, or what was happening during a celebration). Those things are not my focus, and I wouldn't remember them had they not been pointed out. Instead, I'll remember the vibe in the room, or what I was thinking or what various people were involved with. My S children recall very specific things about their upbringing, such as what they received as birthday gifts, what was experienced on a family outing, etc. For me, I recall the birthday (sometimes) or the outing, but only in terms of the big picture (such as the home we lived in, or the place we visited) & perhaps what was happening in my life at that time. I don't ever hear this talked about when people discuss MBTI, but I find it extremely interesting in how we recall this type of information.
I sometimes ascribe introverted intuition as a kind of inward swirl of object awareness in my mind. A question I would ask well after I knew the answer already would be," What couldn't X be if X were true?" It's inductive sometimes.
I sometimes wonder if extroverted introversion is the opposite of the inward swirl analogy where I would ask," What would X also be if X was true?"
Another thought I had for INTJs, Ni-doms, or hero Ni functioners experiencing tunnel vision would be of Cyclop's superpower from X-Men. Aligning the dangers of tunnel visioning with the fear of seeing the world with one's very own INTJ eyes intersects loss of sight of the bigger picture.
-INFJ
I love this! beautiful way of putting it!
Actually most infps I know have less physical awareness than infjs. I think this is because at least by a certain age most infjs have incorporated se well enough otherwise yes their awareness would be severely lacking. Which is not something I notice with most infjs.
Also intps have Very low awareness of their surrounds
Psychic remoteviewing.
ENFJ and you described ni so succinctly.
But having se next to ni is kinda like this strange push and pull phenomena that’s hard to explain.
Great video. I wish I could hire you to talk all this through with! You have a lovely way of describing things. Thank you.
Haha! Thank you, glad to know! If you are interested, I offer coaching sessions. More info here: betterspeechcoach.com/product/60-mins-of-11-coaching/
@@INFJinxed thank you so much. I didn't see it mentioned specifically in the link, do you discuss cognitive functions. I'm still trying to be sure of my type. I'm kind of in between two but they both have completely different functions. So I feel like I should know but I'm so torn! I feel like understanding which functions I use will really help me and also help me have a reference point for typing others too.
@@claytonia1586 i don’t offer a typing service per se. However, I talk about MBTI and enneagram as part of the process whenever the client is interested in it. 😊
@@INFJinxed Even if you don't type people, you can still help the person understand the cognitive functions, discussing how they work with each one, how each one comes out, etc, and that might help guide your client to better understanding of themselves and maybe being able to figure out their type.
can somebody become good at handling their demon function (8th) ? how will its relationship be with the dominant function ?
This is a debate. Personally, I believe we access the shadow functions through our main ones, sorta mimicking the shadow ones.
On the other hand, I think there is an interesting relationship between hero and demon - they seem to shield the psyche and ensure the necessary balance.
@@INFJinxed My understanding, at least for myself as an INTP with Ti first and Fi 8th, my Fi seems to only come out of my subjective logical framework. For instance, I do not like or value anything that doesn't make logical sense to me, or without reason. I can give you a reason for everything that I like or value, whereas people with Fi first often just like something without seeming to need to come to a reason for liking it. I don't know how that would work the other way around, how Ti comes out for people with Fi first...
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