In Australia they grow them commercially more in a tropical savannah climate at places such as Kununurra in Western Australia, Katherine in the Northern Territory & the Bowen basin in Queensland where it's warm all year around but they have very little rainfall. I have a lot of mangoes growing from seed including the Mahachanok or King Thai mango,the Palmer,R2 Arriba,R2E2, Scarlet Delight, Calypso, Kensington Pride,Hula,Lady Jane, Pearl,Keitt, Honey Gold & Brooks varieties of mango seedling trees planted in pots at the moment. I grow them just north of Sydney in New South Wales in the Newcastle area where we have a 10b climate !
That’s awesome. Not sure about Australia, but the majority of mango fruits in my local grocery store are the Tommy Atkin varieties that ship well, but not the tastiest. Given the different varieties of mango out there, I don’t think many people have tried other varieties.
Hi Tropical Central Valley, or whatever your name is. I commented a few months back and here to say that I have been able to grow my Ataulfoes with a different soil mix this time, and so far they look decent, though just at a vegetative state. I mentioned to you that the ones that I placed in sawdust had failed. But with the other ones, especially this Palmer is growing well. I hope in some months I can repot into these Stuewe tree pots that I bought a month back. It is a learning experience so it all fine at the end; you win some, you lose some. Thank you for the video and update on your trees, they look great!
The issue you may run into with the vertical bit slim containers is the roots are unable to spread out. If planning to remain in the container, that’s fine, however, a shorter, but wider container would be better for the mango trees.
@@TropicalCentralValley Thank you for the response. The one that I bought is about a foot and a half. Mango taproots spiral deep so my thinking is, to prevent any roots from root bound, is to have a pot deep enough to it for it to have a strong taproot. Would it be safe for the tree that has been grown in a shorter, wider pot, to be transplanted in ground? I believe you have videos of transplanting in pots like that, and they seem to be fine. Will definitely experiment with this to see which is better, but I doubt they will have drastic difference in terms of growth.
It’s true mango trees have deep taproot, however, the feeder roots that spread out in search of nutrients should be your priority as they’re the ones that make your tree grow and hopefully increase its resilience against the elements.
Best wishes from Jamaica. All the best with you endeavours to grow Mangoes. I am trying to grow different varieties but tend to have problems with people allowing their goats to trespass onto my plot of land and damage or destroy my trees. 😢😢
Goats, can’t say that’s been a problem in my case. I’m surprised to find that the fruits in my front yard are still in tact, given that many folks and neighbors walk back and forth in my neighborhood.
That’s a bummer. In the very beginning, I had my sulfur and copper mix ready, but did not see any signs of fungal issues with any of my mango trees, and this continues to be the case in my climate.
Great video. Your channel inspired me to give growing mangos a try. I have 4 ataúlfo seedlings fingers crossed at least 1 makes it to adult hood in my zone 9b.
Crown-of-thorns flowers. The ones in my yard originally originated from a few plants. They propagate extremely easily from cuttings and love the summer heat and sun. It makes an excellent living “barrier” while looking great.
I have about 10 Manila seedlings on their second year and almost ready to graft. I’ve been on vacation in Asia and it’s crazy how much better the mangos I buy off the street are compared to what we get back in Cali. Can’t wait to get some better varieties started here!
That’s awesome. I totally agree. The taste difference between a crunchy Keo Savoy or Vietnamese sand mango when compared to a Tommy Atkin that we typically find in the States is night and day. In your journey, it definitely helps too that the mango fruits are mostly fresh picked, with minimal transportation involved.
@@TropicalCentralValley yup, we are missing out over here unless we grow our own. I had one of those Miyazaki mangos in Japan last week which was as close as perfectly grown and ripened as I can imagine lol. It was good but there was noticeable fiber in the fruit. I had a mango off the street from Hong Kong which was just as sweet and tasty with no fiber. Just a superior variety and cost like 10 times less 😂
Just an FYI. The Manilas that everyone buys at the big box store such as Home Depot, Lowe's, Armstrong here in California are not the real Philippine Manila mangos. They are sweet and polyembryonic but most of the time produce very FIBROUS mangos. They make great rootstocks for California.
That’s odd. All of my Manila mango fruits have been fiberless. Being super hardy, they are extremely resilient to harsh climate, enabling our local home improvement stores to carry them. Perhaps that’s why they’re everywhere.
@TropicalCentralValley On some occassion you may get a plant that produce fiberless fruit but the majority of them will produce very fibrous fruits. Most of us usually refer to them as the Laverne (Everde) Manila to distinguish it from the true Manila(Carabao). Also usually smaller nursery sometimes carry what they call Manilas but those are usually Ataulfo seedlings. Those will produce fiberless fruits like the yellow ones found in the grocery stores imported from Mexico
Thanks for the tip. Fortunately, the majority of my Manila mango trees were obtained from various tropical fruit tree nurseries in the Los Angeles region. That said, the two smaller ones underneath the taro leave were from Lowe’s. I’ll find out in the new few years if they indeed are the Manila mango, or something else.
HI, how is your day? I have been watching your program for a while and I enjoy it. I have few questions for you. 1/ My irrigation water is city water with lots of chlorine in it. how do you solve this problem? I live in Granite Bay suburb of Sacramento Zone 9b. I have some freezing days during winter. It seems my place is colder than yours during winter eventhough both are in zone 9b why?
Thank you. There’s a legal limit to how many parts per million your water company can add chlorine and other chemicals into the tap water. Without know your water quality, I would expect your tap water to be similar to mine and I use mine to water all of my tropical fruit trees without issues. Concerning winter, I generally get about 5-6 times per year where the temperature falls down to 26°F for multiple days. There are other USDA Zone 9b places such as Arizona that rarely receive any frost. The zones are meant to be used as a ballpark figure for regions that “may” receive temperatures down to 25°F.
@@TropicalCentralValley you welcome. Quick question. If I air layer my lisa atemoya(without grafting to any root stock just using the airlayer itself once it roots)will I get another lisa or will it be a sugar apple plant once it grows and produce?
It will become another clone of your Lisa atemoya. Just a word of caution, air layer trees are prune to branches breaking, even for mature trees, particularly with mango trees. If possible, I would provide it with some structural support when young.
I’m in southern Arizona low desert, started mangoes from seed last year. They’re still alive but small and short still. Any recommendations to keep them going strong?
Your summers are typically 7 degrees warmer than mine. Try to see if you can create a filter sun climate for the seedlings. In the very beginning, I used 90% shade cloth for my young mango trees, then slowly replace the cloth with 50% until my larger trees were able to provide the sun protection for the younger trees. By providing a full day filtered sun climate, this should allow your seedlings to waste less of its energy into keeping itself cool and instead, focus on growing its trees. You’ll also want to ensure the soil is consistently moist (not wet). To achieve this, I actually water my trees daily, every hour for 3-5 minutes per watering session. The tropical fruit trees will appreciate the consistent source of water. This practice differs from infrequent deep watering, which in my opinion is a great way to kill tropical fruit trees.
There’s really none, however, if you’re nearing the Los Angeles region, there’s actually a good number of tropical fruit tree nurseries in the area. Here’s some videos I did touring some of them: Champa Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour ruclips.net/video/o1-Adgg5DKQ/видео.html Emily Garden Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour ruclips.net/video/gn1JDiz-riA/видео.html Mimosa Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour ruclips.net/video/YfOMOSsuGIo/видео.html
Thank you. If you’re nearing the Los Angeles region, there’s actually a good number of tropical fruit tree nurseries in the area. Here’s some videos I did touring some of them: Champa Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour ruclips.net/video/o1-Adgg5DKQ/видео.html Emily Garden Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour ruclips.net/video/gn1JDiz-riA/видео.html Mimosa Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour ruclips.net/video/YfOMOSsuGIo/видео.html
We live in central valley and had a manilla mango tree that my MIL started and gave us. It was 2 ft tall. As soon as we transplanted it died. Should we have waited for it to grow bigger before transplanting?
Not necessarily. They are perhaps the most forgiving of all mango varieties. Depending on your soil, it may had a difficult time acclimating. What soil amendments did you used when transferring into the ground?
@@TropicalCentralValleydon't remember but the time i transferred it was last year around August.. used a mixture of half the old soil from the pot it came from and the soil in my back yard. Also mixed in some worm casting.
The flowering Kent in the front yard was a seedling? How old? I have a seedling one, about 2 years old do a eays to go, but they seem to be pretty hardy from seed. Hit 24-25 a couple nights this past winter and no damage, although I draped an old sheet over it
Yeah, when grown from seed, they fair so much better. The primary reason for this is because grafted trees typically originate from wholesale nurseries in warmer climates, such as Florida or Southern California. When attempting to grow them in non-warm climate, the grafted scion and rootstock struggles to acclimate.
Dude, I am curious how did you develop a deep interest or obsession in tropical and subtropical gardening? And have you thought about getting a larger acreage, you could turn it into a tropical and subtropical botanic garden in Central California or other places. :)
Having grown up in a tropical climate, I was used to eating various tropical fruits. In lieu of traveling, I’d thought it would be a good idea to bring them to me instead, and to my surprise, they grow here. The primary issue with larger land is the creation of a microclimate before many of the tropicals can be grown. The creation does take some time.
There are none in the Central Valley, as the local nurseries dare not touch anything tropical. If you’re nearing the Los Angeles region, there’s actually a good number of tropical fruit tree nurseries in the area. Here’s some videos I did touring some of them: Champa Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour ruclips.net/video/o1-Adgg5DKQ/видео.html Emily Garden Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour ruclips.net/video/gn1JDiz-riA/видео.html Mimosa Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour ruclips.net/video/YfOMOSsuGIo/видео.html
It’s becoming pretty common for days to hit 110°F to 115°F during the summer time. All of mine has been able to handle the dry heat without issues. It definitely helps too that during the summer time, I water my trees every hour, mimicking the frequent but short rain in their native climate.
They grow mangoes in the coachella valley, palm springs, and phoenix which is much hotter than Fresno. as long as you mulch heavily and keep the soil moist, mangoes will tolerate 120⁰F no problem.
Totally. In the case of the Coachella Valley, it’s a large commercial mango farm. As with all dry heat climate, the use of agricultural paint to cool down the trees is a must, unless protected by a microclimate.
Thank you. For in ground mango, I use only 3 ingredients. 1/3 sand, 1/3 peat moss and 1/3 native dirt. Here’s a video I made last year that touches on the topic: ruclips.net/video/z5nZjteXbVM/видео.htmlsi=p06WX3z3hY9lb2Rf
Definitely. That said, though, much of the California Central Valley went through 42°F this past Monday. It’s forecasted to reach 98°F, so there’s that.
In Australia they grow them commercially more in a tropical savannah climate at places such as Kununurra in Western Australia, Katherine in the Northern Territory & the Bowen basin in Queensland where it's warm all year around but they have very little rainfall.
I have a lot of mangoes growing from seed including the Mahachanok or King Thai mango,the Palmer,R2 Arriba,R2E2, Scarlet Delight, Calypso, Kensington Pride,Hula,Lady Jane, Pearl,Keitt, Honey Gold & Brooks varieties of mango seedling trees planted in pots at the moment.
I grow them just north of Sydney in New South Wales in the Newcastle area where we have a 10b climate !
That’s awesome. Not sure about Australia, but the majority of mango fruits in my local grocery store are the Tommy Atkin varieties that ship well, but not the tastiest.
Given the different varieties of mango out there, I don’t think many people have tried other varieties.
Looking good!
Thank you.
Hi Tropical Central Valley, or whatever your name is. I commented a few months back and here to say that I have been able to grow my Ataulfoes with a different soil mix this time, and so far they look decent, though just at a vegetative state. I mentioned to you that the ones that I placed in sawdust had failed. But with the other ones, especially this Palmer is growing well. I hope in some months I can repot into these Stuewe tree pots that I bought a month back. It is a learning experience so it all fine at the end; you win some, you lose some. Thank you for the video and update on your trees, they look great!
The issue you may run into with the vertical bit slim containers is the roots are unable to spread out. If planning to remain in the container, that’s fine, however, a shorter, but wider container would be better for the mango trees.
@@TropicalCentralValley Thank you for the response. The one that I bought is about a foot and a half. Mango taproots spiral deep so my thinking is, to prevent any roots from root bound, is to have a pot deep enough to it for it to have a strong taproot. Would it be safe for the tree that has been grown in a shorter, wider pot, to be transplanted in ground? I believe you have videos of transplanting in pots like that, and they seem to be fine. Will definitely experiment with this to see which is better, but I doubt they will have drastic difference in terms of growth.
It’s true mango trees have deep taproot, however, the feeder roots that spread out in search of nutrients should be your priority as they’re the ones that make your tree grow and hopefully increase its resilience against the elements.
@@TropicalCentralValley I think its going to rain, these few days
It’s forecasted to rain for a few hours tomorrow in my city, but I am looking forward to it.
Best wishes from Jamaica. All the best with you endeavours to grow Mangoes. I am trying to grow different varieties but tend to have problems with people allowing their goats to trespass onto my plot of land and damage or destroy my trees. 😢😢
Goats, can’t say that’s been a problem in my case. I’m surprised to find that the fruits in my front yard are still in tact, given that many folks and neighbors walk back and forth in my neighborhood.
I’m in Fl almost all my mangoes got hit with powdery mildew this season😕 looks like you’re going to have a great season 👍🥭
That’s a bummer. In the very beginning, I had my sulfur and copper mix ready, but did not see any signs of fungal issues with any of my mango trees, and this continues to be the case in my climate.
Great video. Your channel inspired me to give growing mangos a try. I have 4 ataúlfo seedlings fingers crossed at least 1 makes it to adult hood in my zone 9b.
Thank you.
Yeah, when grown from seed, mango trees perform phenomenally awesome. Yours will likely start to fruit in year 4-5.
❤❤❤ beautiful
Thank you.
May I ask what is the name of the red flowers in the front? They add a nice bslance/backdrop to the trees. Thank you in advance.
Crown-of-thorns flowers. The ones in my yard originally originated from a few plants. They propagate extremely easily from cuttings and love the summer heat and sun.
It makes an excellent living “barrier” while looking great.
I have about 10 Manila seedlings on their second year and almost ready to graft. I’ve been on vacation in Asia and it’s crazy how much better the mangos I buy off the street are compared to what we get back in Cali. Can’t wait to get some better varieties started here!
That’s awesome.
I totally agree. The taste difference between a crunchy Keo Savoy or Vietnamese sand mango when compared to a Tommy Atkin that we typically find in the States is night and day.
In your journey, it definitely helps too that the mango fruits are mostly fresh picked, with minimal transportation involved.
@@TropicalCentralValley yup, we are missing out over here unless we grow our own. I had one of those Miyazaki mangos in Japan last week which was as close as perfectly grown and ripened as I can imagine lol. It was good but there was noticeable fiber in the fruit. I had a mango off the street from Hong Kong which was just as sweet and tasty with no fiber. Just a superior variety and cost like 10 times less 😂
That’s great. I’m waiting for my Coconut Cream mango to grow and fruit. Super excited to try a coconut flavored mango fruit.
@@TropicalCentralValley sounds amazing 🤤
Yeah, I’ll have do a video on it when the time comes.
Your Cali mangos look great.
Thank you. Many years of the trees acclimating to my climate.
Just an FYI. The Manilas that everyone buys at the big box store such as Home Depot, Lowe's, Armstrong here in California are not the real Philippine Manila mangos. They are sweet and polyembryonic but most of the time produce very FIBROUS mangos. They make great rootstocks for California.
That’s odd. All of my Manila mango fruits have been fiberless.
Being super hardy, they are extremely resilient to harsh climate, enabling our local home improvement stores to carry them.
Perhaps that’s why they’re everywhere.
@TropicalCentralValley On some occassion you may get a plant that produce fiberless fruit but the majority of them will produce very fibrous fruits. Most of us usually refer to them as the Laverne (Everde) Manila to distinguish it from the true Manila(Carabao). Also usually smaller nursery sometimes carry what they call Manilas but those are usually Ataulfo seedlings. Those will produce fiberless fruits like the yellow ones found in the grocery stores imported from Mexico
Thanks for the tip.
Fortunately, the majority of my Manila mango trees were obtained from various tropical fruit tree nurseries in the Los Angeles region. That said, the two smaller ones underneath the taro leave were from Lowe’s.
I’ll find out in the new few years if they indeed are the Manila mango, or something else.
HI, how is your day? I have been watching your program for a while and I enjoy it. I have few questions for you. 1/ My irrigation water is city water with lots of chlorine in it. how do you solve this problem? I live in Granite Bay suburb of Sacramento Zone 9b. I have some freezing days during winter. It seems my place is colder than yours during winter eventhough both are in zone 9b why?
Thank you.
There’s a legal limit to how many parts per million your water company can add chlorine and other chemicals into the tap water. Without know your water quality, I would expect your tap water to be similar to mine and I use mine to water all of my tropical fruit trees without issues.
Concerning winter, I generally get about 5-6 times per year where the temperature falls down to 26°F for multiple days. There are other USDA Zone 9b places such as Arizona that rarely receive any frost. The zones are meant to be used as a ballpark figure for regions that “may” receive temperatures down to 25°F.
Wonderful video..we need an annona update and the uses and benefits of them..thanks
Thank you.
My annonas are mostly doing great. Will provide an update as soon as new growth shoots out.
@@TropicalCentralValley you welcome. Quick question. If I air layer my lisa atemoya(without grafting to any root stock just using the airlayer itself once it roots)will I get another lisa or will it be a sugar apple plant once it grows and produce?
It will become another clone of your Lisa atemoya. Just a word of caution, air layer trees are prune to branches breaking, even for mature trees, particularly with mango trees.
If possible, I would provide it with some structural support when young.
I appreciate you sir. I enjoy all your videos from South Florida.very inspiring
You’re very welcome.
I’m in southern Arizona low desert, started mangoes from seed last year. They’re still alive but small and short still. Any recommendations to keep them going strong?
Your summers are typically 7 degrees warmer than mine. Try to see if you can create a filter sun climate for the seedlings. In the very beginning, I used 90% shade cloth for my young mango trees, then slowly replace the cloth with 50% until my larger trees were able to provide the sun protection for the younger trees.
By providing a full day filtered sun climate, this should allow your seedlings to waste less of its energy into keeping itself cool and instead, focus on growing its trees.
You’ll also want to ensure the soil is consistently moist (not wet). To achieve this, I actually water my trees daily, every hour for 3-5 minutes per watering session. The tropical fruit trees will appreciate the consistent source of water. This practice differs from infrequent deep watering, which in my opinion is a great way to kill tropical fruit trees.
When planning seeds, do you remove the mango seed from the husk first? Or do you plant it with the husk on?
I’d definitely remove the seed from the husk. Once removed, wrap the seed in a wet paper towel and place it in a ziplock bag until it germinates.
Where can I get a mango tree in the Central Valley
There’s really none, however, if you’re nearing the Los Angeles region, there’s actually a good number of tropical fruit tree nurseries in the area. Here’s some videos I did touring some of them:
Champa Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour
ruclips.net/video/o1-Adgg5DKQ/видео.html
Emily Garden Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour
ruclips.net/video/gn1JDiz-riA/видео.html
Mimosa Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour
ruclips.net/video/YfOMOSsuGIo/видео.html
You said to heavily amend the soil, can you give more details what you use to accomplish this
Yes, I made a video a year ago that focused on this topic:
ruclips.net/video/z5nZjteXbVM/видео.htmlsi=uNSCvTBHKLOHOqTx
hello there, i have been wathcing your videos for quiet a while. My question is where can i buy mango tree from?
Thank you.
If you’re nearing the Los Angeles region, there’s actually a good number of tropical fruit tree nurseries in the area. Here’s some videos I did touring some of them:
Champa Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour
ruclips.net/video/o1-Adgg5DKQ/видео.html
Emily Garden Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour
ruclips.net/video/gn1JDiz-riA/видео.html
Mimosa Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour
ruclips.net/video/YfOMOSsuGIo/видео.html
We live in central valley and had a manilla mango tree that my MIL started and gave us. It was 2 ft tall. As soon as we transplanted it died. Should we have waited for it to grow bigger before transplanting?
Not necessarily. They are perhaps the most forgiving of all mango varieties.
Depending on your soil, it may had a difficult time acclimating. What soil amendments did you used when transferring into the ground?
@@TropicalCentralValleydon't remember but the time i transferred it was last year around August.. used a mixture of half the old soil from the pot it came from and the soil in my back yard. Also mixed in some worm casting.
No sand? Unless your dirt is extremely sandy, I suspect it likely suffocated due to the lack of oxygen to the roots.
The flowering Kent in the front yard was a seedling? How old? I have a seedling one, about 2 years old do a eays to go, but they seem to be pretty hardy from seed. Hit 24-25 a couple nights this past winter and no damage, although I draped an old sheet over it
Yeah, when grown from seed, they fair so much better. The primary reason for this is because grafted trees typically originate from wholesale nurseries in warmer climates, such as Florida or Southern California.
When attempting to grow them in non-warm climate, the grafted scion and rootstock struggles to acclimate.
@@TropicalCentralValley how long did your Kent take to flower?
3 years in the ground.
Dude, I am curious how did you develop a deep interest or obsession in tropical and subtropical gardening? And have you thought about getting a larger acreage, you could turn it into a tropical and subtropical botanic garden in Central California or other places. :)
Having grown up in a tropical climate, I was used to eating various tropical fruits. In lieu of traveling, I’d thought it would be a good idea to bring them to me instead, and to my surprise, they grow here.
The primary issue with larger land is the creation of a microclimate before many of the tropicals can be grown. The creation does take some time.
@@TropicalCentralValleyhow do you create a tropical environment in central California?
The Mango Whisper.
Yes, not quite a yeller yet.
Hey tropical Central Valley, I’m from Visalia I cant find a nursery that sells mango trees I was wondering where do you buy yours at?
There are none in the Central Valley, as the local nurseries dare not touch anything tropical.
If you’re nearing the Los Angeles region, there’s actually a good number of tropical fruit tree nurseries in the area. Here’s some videos I did touring some of them:
Champa Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour
ruclips.net/video/o1-Adgg5DKQ/видео.html
Emily Garden Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour
ruclips.net/video/gn1JDiz-riA/видео.html
Mimosa Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour
ruclips.net/video/YfOMOSsuGIo/видео.html
Grow from seed , next year graft with your desired scion
I agree. Should the scion not make it, you always have the rootstock.
what city you in Mr Mango
Visalia, CA.
What's the highest temperature you think mangos can take in your area?
It’s becoming pretty common for days to hit 110°F to 115°F during the summer time. All of mine has been able to handle the dry heat without issues.
It definitely helps too that during the summer time, I water my trees every hour, mimicking the frequent but short rain in their native climate.
@@TropicalCentralValley you water the whole tree?
I’m not sure if understand your question, but it’s the roots that uptake the water. That being the case, I water the drip zone.
They grow mangoes in the coachella valley, palm springs, and phoenix which is much hotter than Fresno. as long as you mulch heavily and keep the soil moist, mangoes will tolerate 120⁰F no problem.
Totally. In the case of the Coachella Valley, it’s a large commercial mango farm. As with all dry heat climate, the use of agricultural paint to cool down the trees is a must, unless protected by a microclimate.
Yup, 2024 is turning out to be a wonderful year for my tropical fruit trees.
Do you think the climate of Las Vegas would support mangos? We hit 28F for one night last winter. Zone 9.
My winter typically hit at least 26°F, several days of the year.
That being the case, I would imagine yours will be fine.
Thanks so much! You talked about amending the soil before planting mangos. What do you use? Your trees are amazing!
Thank you.
For in ground mango, I use only 3 ingredients. 1/3 sand, 1/3 peat moss and 1/3 native dirt.
Here’s a video I made last year that touches on the topic:
ruclips.net/video/z5nZjteXbVM/видео.htmlsi=p06WX3z3hY9lb2Rf
@@TropicalCentralValley It is a hot May this year.
Definitely. That said, though, much of the California Central Valley went through 42°F this past Monday. It’s forecasted to reach 98°F, so there’s that.