How to play fast jazz on the drums
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- In this video I unload a few of my thoughts on uptempo comping. There are many approaches out there and it's important that we all find our own path and eventually develop a unique working vocabulary.
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I'm not a drummer but I love seeing the thought process of incredible musicians. Thanks for this
We caught this guy at Smalls, the best drummer I have ever seen, he was with Jerry B 1/18/25 7:30 at smalls
Ripping! Also couldn’t agree more with what you said at the end about this not being a lick based music. Have to put the hours in listening and mimicking!
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Fantastic lesson! Thank you. Your uptempo playing is impressively relaxed.
Thanks!! :)
Excellent in every respect. Greetings from Palatinate, Germany
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Yeah, Jason! Valuable lesson.
Very informative, useful material with mature, professional comments! Thank you very much!!
Thanks!! :)
Great content! I like the fact that you are singing the melody...this is so overlooked by most drummers and to me is the best way to connect your playing to the music. Keep it up!
In up tempo playing there is less space between the quarter note
There fore that simplifying philosophy is very true
I think that how you hear the time is also crucial
I really enjoyed this video, !!!
Heck yeah!!!!!
Nice job Jason.
Hey Jason,
excellent lesson my man. One question though, what do you do with your left foot, nobody seems to cover this point.
Best Paul
Bro, you are a killer player. Wow. Great vid.
Thanks bro! Just stealing all my stuff from the older cats!
This was an excellent lesson thank you very much. I can be found at awesome 5/8 Groove
Appreciate it!!!
I think one thing worth considering/investigating is the tendency for the right/ride hand to have an easier time developing true up-tempo capabilities, such that many individual's left/snare hand doesn't "think" quite as well as the right.
To illustrate this, I would point to the reality that up-tempo ride patterns (admittedly straightened out) are still near perfect analogs to their medium and slow tempo counterparts...however, your standard snare patterns (if you go through just about any jazz drum set instruction book) do not transfer up to those blazing-fast up-tempo performances. If you look at the frequency of snare hits on the "and" of beats, and then compare medium tempo versus up-tempo, you'll see that as the tempo increases, the frequency of independent single hits on the "and" diminish. At faster tempos, snare hits will be more and more likely to drop directly on the beat.
There are many recordings of drummers playing entire sections of uptempo tunes with not a single snare hit between beats. It is almost as though the right hand can "think" at those speeds and still feel the divisions but the left hand cannot. So syncopation on the snare nearly vanishes at true up-tempo speeds.
In general this is what we see with up-tempo playing. As an oversimplification, the tendency for many drummers is actually to play the ride and hi-hat at a given bpm, but the snare and bass comping at half that bpm (at least in terms of phrasing).
As an exercise, it might be helpful for drummers to take some comping patterns (and I can think of a few from the Beyond Bop book, but any decent teacher/book will have good exercises), specifically comping patterns that feature some decent syncopation and then work on them until the pattern can be pulled all the way up to up-tempo speeds while remaining analogous to its medium-speed counterpart.
Returning to my initial statement, I think/suspect that up-tempo jazz drumming evolved as it did (in large part) because the right/ride hand got there first and the left hand never really arrived.
(Tony Williams is an exception that immediately comes to mind. And I'm sure there are others.)
Hopefully this made sense. Let me know what you think.
Thanks for your comment. I agree with you 100%. I think that its also woRth considering that the pace of those fast tunes, doesn't allow allot of room for densely played material so drummers have adapted and augmented the language to still create forward motion by thinking in bigger terms. For example the Charleston rhythm played at a medium tempo is generally accepted as dotted quarter eighth, but when playing at say 380, the same idea could be implied by playing beat 1 and 4.
Hope that makes sense.
@@jasontiemann2145 Absolutely. Even when I was typing my comment I was thinking about that aspect (the density, possibly "muddy" result of packing in perfectly analog snare patterns).
Forcing in such cracking snare accents with a heavy hand would really likely be problematic to the overall tone/feel of the music. Naturally a high level player would seriously need control over the dynamics there.
We are certainly on the same page (regarding "densely played material"). No dispute there.
So I suppose a possible question for a jazz drummer to ask themselves (in this context is): "Am I playing like this because of my limitations, or because this is stylistically the optimal choice?"
@@jasontiemann2145 And something you said in your video popped into my head (as I've been thinking about this) regarding being able to "think fast..."
The ability to actually hear and think fast enough to cleanly play those kinds of "dense" material could be nothing but beneficial for up-tempo comping, even if that isn't what one would actually play in a live setting.
Just the ability to hear between the beats at that speed (and drop the occasional ghost note on various "ands") is key for really "feeling" those subdivisions.
This is a great comment and a great thread and it's something that's been on my mind for as long as I've been trying to play uptempo swing, in that I don't yet have the independence and coordination in my left and right hand at the same time to freely syncopate on my snare at full speed. I find that with my left hand at half time I can play it quite well. It's something that I will continue working on, a benchmark to hit and a set of goals to achieve.
Thanks...
Thats gotta be Pat right? Or is it Ledonne... Great vid by the way, love the "Think fast think big phrases" Mantra, helped me out
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Putting the “up” back into “up tempo” 🔥 top notch 👏
For another video, I’d love to see a detailed demonstration of your foot work at these tempos. (How about your: seat hight and position, angle of your feet towards the pedals, feet position on the pedals etc
I find it even more challenging to keep the feet moving smooth, relaxed and steady at fast tempos than the hands.
Thanks for the nice content
Thanks! Ill put thaqt in the que for the near future
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Oh ya brother!
Excellent Jason. Thank you so much.
Thanks!!!
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Wish this guy lived next door😂
What size and model is the Bosphorus ride (main) in the video / thanks/ excellent
That’s Bosphorus 21” syncopation ride approx 2100g
Nice, but regarding the live clip, why rush when the tempo is already so fast?
Thanks for your feedback. The clips I played in the demonstration weren't the exact tempo of the live clip. As I recall the live clip pretty much stays there. Its around 400 BPM. I watched it many times to evaluate and learn from experience. As for the live clip.... I was a side man on the gig. The tempo of the tune wasn't my call, but I love the challenge of playing at that rate with one of the world's greatest pianists/organists.
Hi, do you offer private online lessons? Thanks!
@@jazzdrummer19 yes! Please reach out on instagram @jasontiemanndrums
Great stuff J. T. !
Thank You!!!
If you learn verry slow ...you can do it verry fast !,
Right on!
If u play drums in jazz at the correct tempo u can play anything.. nobody will know the difference