I would be reluctant to try that, especially on a good violin. I find that, if I wait long enough for the temperature and the humidity to change, the peg finally loosens.
Definitely not. You do not want metal on wood. I used to use a pair of snare drum sticks (1A size), but these are hard to find in some music stores. Much more commonly, try some wooden kitchen mixing spoons (if strong enough to not break). The problem is their length, and bumping other pegs.
Use a cloth to protect the wood from the pliers, but excess force risks breaking the peg. It sounds violent, but tapping the peg out with a hammer and a piece of dowel can loosen a rigidly stuck peg. An ice pack wrapped in a towel is another option. Luthiers wrap the body of the instrument with a blanket to buffer the trauma to the body when tapping out a locked peg, which indicates uneven wear, usually the result of mixing the pegs.
I have a huge fear of breaking a string right now. I have a solo performance tomorrow and my a string won't righted, I'm afraid while doing this I may mess things up.
The string is unlikely to break unless you over-tighten it or use a string stretcher (they undermine the integrity of the strings). In a worst case scenario, replace the string and leave it tuned a tone or three semitones above concert pitch overnight. In the morning, tune the instrument. I keep an old set of strings in my case, in the event of an emergency as old strings don't stretch much.
To remove a locked peg, secure the head in a vise, cushioned by cloth to protect the finish then tap out the stuck peg with a dowel of smaller diameter and dead blow hammer. The procedure is quite safe. Use bees wax or graphite to prevent the peg from sticking (soap is good but does not last for very long).
This was good and the camera was very clear at showing the string. I heard that you don't let the string go too far out the hole though because it's scrapes up the Peg box or you can clip it off even with the end of the peg
So my friend who is majoring in music and plays the violin and viola just used a lot of force to move the peg. When I was trying I thought it was going to break but he just turned it with force. My teacher was right there too and said “sometimes it just needs that a little push”
I've only been playing for six months. It is the summer and my teacher is not able to help me. I don't have that much experience and is afraid that if I take it apart I won't be able to fix it. If I take it in to my local music store will they charge me for lubricarting the pegs for my viola? My mom just bought me a $40 tuner and I don't want her to refuse me. I can manage tuning it, all I want is the pegs lubricated.
If your pegs are stuck place them in a small room with a dehumidifier for a couple days. May help especially during summer. If you can, lower humidity very slowly and check the pegs every 6 hours. You're trying to reach early winter humidity. Another way if you're fortunate is to crank up the AC and dehumidify that way.
Too much pressure on the peg can crack the peg box, pls avoid this condition. Most likely either your peg or the hole that it is in is not perfectly round or properly fitted, and needs to be repaired. For sticky or loose peg problems more severe than the video, you need a luthiers help to ream the hole and/or shave the peg. You MUST have proper tools to do this work, don't try it with just sand paper.
+Jim Manson Thank you ! I used a piece blanked to hold and loosen up one peg by one and it worked out just fine, I then applied soap on it one by one and finished the proccess. One thing I did not know is that The violin must be on the horizontal at all times while loosen up tje strings, if We fail do to so, the sound post may fall down from its position, and guess what mine did. To reposition the sound post proper tools are needed. I'm gonna have to take my violin to the luthier anyways after all. Have a great day!
Soap is alkalin. I think this is a questionable method. Alcalinity attacks wood. Use a waxy substance that is as chemically inert as possible. Hill peg wax works pretty good for me. It is a tremendous rip-off, but one of those chap-stick like tubes is about enough for three lifetimes. Will it to your kids.
It's normal that you get slippery peg after putting the string on and all we do at this point we push the peg in a little bit while tuning and it'll keep get out of tune maybe for 7 days and then it'll be better. If not working try wiping the hole in the peg box itself or search youtube videos. They're helpful, too
Excellent presentation. I use this method for my 1971 pegged Gerundino flamenco guitar. Graphite also works and lasts longer.
Pretty hard to remove a string if the peg won't turn and the string is wound tightly around it
+linda kundell Use a pliers, clip the peg, and turn it. My teacher says as that point, no human arm can turn that peg anymore, so use pliers.
I would be reluctant to try that, especially on a good violin. I find that, if I wait long enough for the temperature and the humidity to change, the peg finally loosens.
Definitely not. You do not want metal on wood. I used to use a pair of snare drum sticks (1A size), but these are hard to find in some music stores. Much more commonly, try some wooden kitchen mixing spoons (if strong enough to not break). The problem is their length, and bumping other pegs.
Use a cloth to protect the wood from the pliers, but excess force risks breaking the peg. It sounds violent, but tapping the peg out with a hammer and a piece of dowel can loosen a rigidly stuck peg. An ice pack wrapped in a towel is another option. Luthiers wrap the body of the instrument with a blanket to buffer the trauma to the body when tapping out a locked peg, which indicates uneven wear, usually the result of mixing the pegs.
I have a huge fear of breaking a string right now. I have a solo performance tomorrow and my a string won't righted, I'm afraid while doing this I may mess things up.
The string is unlikely to break unless you over-tighten it or use a string stretcher (they undermine the integrity of the strings). In a worst case scenario, replace the string and leave it tuned a tone or three semitones above concert pitch overnight. In the morning, tune the instrument. I keep an old set of strings in my case, in the event of an emergency as old strings don't stretch much.
How did it go?
@@sottosopravoce dude I commented that 4 years ago haha. But it went good 👍.
@@Falcon2.39-1 dude I'm glad it went well. I would have said wait till after the performance to try it and play with a with a mute on your strings
But if the peg is stuck (will not rotate either directions), how do I remove the string/peg for this method?
go to a luthier I belive
To remove a locked peg, secure the head in a vise, cushioned by cloth to protect the finish then tap out the stuck peg with a dowel of smaller diameter and dead blow hammer. The procedure is quite safe. Use bees wax or graphite to prevent the peg from sticking (soap is good but does not last for very long).
I did, I used soap in my pegs, now is so easy tune it. Thanks a lot!
Ok so my pegs are stuck and your saying to fix this that I need to remove the peg which is stuck? thanks
thibbledibble you need a couple
@@dnyriaforris2404 me too
My G, D, A and E string are stuck
This was good and the camera was very clear at showing the string. I heard that you don't let the string go too far out the hole though because it's scrapes up the Peg box or you can clip it off even with the end of the peg
Will coconut or olive oil do for lubricating a peg? Thank you.
My pegs are just completely stuck. Haven't used this violin bc i have another so the pegs just wont move only the a string moves
So my friend who is majoring in music and plays the violin and viola just used a lot of force to move the peg. When I was trying I thought it was going to break but he just turned it with force. My teacher was right there too and said “sometimes it just needs that a little push”
hey! Thank you so much for uploading this!!
Much appreciated, God bless.
I've only been playing for six months. It is the summer and my teacher is not able to help me. I don't have that much experience and is afraid that if I take it apart I won't be able to fix it. If I take it in to my local music store will they charge me for lubricarting the pegs for my viola? My mom just bought me a $40 tuner and I don't want her to refuse me. I can manage tuning it, all I want is the pegs lubricated.
Can we use any other soap ? Please reply
1:14 she said any soap would work but avoid one type
@@ameerah2959 avoid Lava brand because of pumice abrasion to peg and pegbox
Can I use shower gel instead of soap?
If your pegs are stuck place them in a small room with a dehumidifier for a couple days. May help especially during summer. If you can, lower humidity very slowly and check the pegs every 6 hours. You're trying to reach early winter humidity. Another way if you're fortunate is to crank up the AC and dehumidify that way.
I like the way you explained it. Thanks.
Wait are you using the same string you had before because I don't have any extra strings
PLEASE ANSWER
Ummmm heheheh
My G string just snapped while trying to take it out oops 😬 and I don't have a extra string
Idk what to do
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@Beverly Escobar omg same question!
DON'T DO THIS! After few weeks molds form and it will tighten again.
Better use paraffin/candle wax, lasts longer and no molds.
What's that that plays at the end? love it. please need to know!
at the start?
Very useful video, Thank you for sharing.
thank you so much for this solution!
WTH? The peg is STUCK..... It won't budge.
Thank you Lisa, very helpful indeed.
What if my peg is stuck at the point I cannot move it with my hand?
Too much pressure on the peg can crack the peg box, pls avoid this condition. Most likely either your peg or the hole that it is in is not perfectly round or properly fitted, and needs to be repaired. For sticky or loose peg problems more severe than the video, you need a luthiers help to ream the hole and/or shave the peg. You MUST have proper tools to do this work, don't try it with just sand paper.
+Jim Manson Thank you ! I used a piece blanked to hold and loosen up one peg by one and it worked out just fine, I then applied soap on it one by one and finished the proccess. One thing I did not know is that The violin must be on the horizontal at all times while loosen up tje strings, if We fail do to so, the sound post may fall down from its position, and guess what mine did. To reposition the sound post proper tools are needed. I'm gonna have to take my violin to the luthier anyways after all.
Have a great day!
I had a good luthier re-fit my sound post one time. The improvement was dramatic, and the cost was very small.
+Jim Manson I am going look for one nearby. :)
Guilherme Nocera I use a hammer and a metal chopstick to wack it out, remember to stable the violin neck first.
beeswax would probably do quite well too
Super helpful!!!!!!
What a smart method! Thank you so much!
What type of soap again?
ridzuan osman dove
what about peg dope?
my friend did that and mold grew on it
BrettS02 eww that's gross
That's bad....
Thanks for the video ---- Ms. CEO ;)
Dang! A just dropped ma soap down the plug hole!
hola, que pone? javón de tocador?
Thanks beautiful
Super
Use geared pegs...
Gracias.
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THANKYOUUUUU
Soap is alkalin. I think this is a questionable method. Alcalinity attacks wood. Use a waxy substance that is as chemically inert as possible. Hill peg wax works pretty good for me. It is a tremendous rip-off, but one of those chap-stick like tubes is about enough for three lifetimes. Will it to your kids.
I picked up a Hidersine peg composition from SHAR, and it works well for me. Hidersine is better known for its string bass rosin.
Funny and true. I inherited mine
Yea simple.... Psh now the peg is too slippery and won't stay in place -.- and I've wiped it like freaking 10 times
It's normal that you get slippery peg after putting the string on and all we do at this point we push the peg in a little bit while tuning and it'll keep get out of tune maybe for 7 days and then it'll be better. If not working try wiping the hole in the peg box itself or search youtube videos. They're helpful, too
OMG soap?
Now violin come out of tune too easily
I used pine tar soap. Made it worse
Dont u dare put soap use peg lubricator
Love your project. I made similar with WoodPrix instructions.
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hahahaha lubricate
This is too complex for me. I need you to break this down so I can figure it all out.