This is genius. I broke my foot 79 days ago. Little sign of improvement unfortunately. I stumbled on your video a few days after I broke it and wanted to try this. I asked the physician’s assistant (who I see, rather than a doctor- not sure if that’s odd, to me it is) if she could do this.. she said “we don’t typically do that in this office” I asked if she could anyway..? And no. Where can I find a provider for this technique? She said we’ll talk about bone stimulators before we talk about surgery. A few days later I messaged her asking about getting a bone stimulator started early because of a possible autoimmune disease that’s not allowing me to heal… she says insurance doesn’t typically cover. Omg. Help me. I can’t live like this I am already morbidly damn obese. I just had emergency discectomy days after breaking my foot. I still can’t walk or weight bear. I’m DYING TO WALK!! And walk my poor dog!! The knee scooter I have is causing more issues in my back it’s like 50 lbs and big as hell. after all the years of pain and numbness from the sciatica I need my foot to heal for my sanity and HEALTH!!
First and foremost this is an easy application use and if you use it consistently it will absolutely help. Make sure you’re putting about 25 to 50% attention throughout the middle of this application. My mother-in-law went through the same thing in which she had to be nonweightbearing for multiple weeks as well. Be patient. Here is some good news… A discectomy is the easiest surgery that you can have on the lumbar spine so the good news is your will recover very quickly. The issue with your foot is merely a bump in the road. The application that I posted and that you are now using will help you significantly to reduce your pain. The big key is remaining in the limited weight-bearing or non-weight-bearing status that your doctor has defined to facilitate better healing. More good news is that your low back pain and sciatica can be significantly reduced overtime if you have a good physical therapist who is working with not only manual mobilization techniques but also has a great understanding of dry needling. Let me know if you have any other questions about how do use this on the foot and if you wouldn’t mind let me know how you’re doing from time to time.
I fractured the 5th metatarsal in my right foot on 5/3/2020. I was told it would be 8-12 weeks by one doc & 6-8 weeks by another. So, hopefully it will heal somewhere between there. The report showed: Acute comminuted minimally displaced fracture of the proximal 5th metacarpal which may extend towards the articular surface on the oblique view. Adjacent soft tissue swelling. I didn’t see how to go about adding a photo for a visual description. Would you be able to tell me if using KT Tape as you have in this video be ideal for this? Thanks!
Jessica Pope the fracture you have is exactly why I developed this application. In the past I have seen this help with reduction of this type of injury
Good morning… Yes, it would certainly help. Nothing would help would be to find a physical therapist who does dry needling and have them dry needling at not only that point of the tenosynovitis but also the muscle, that inserted into that which runs along the lateral aspect of the fibula, which is called the peroneals. It’s a great combination
My pain seems to be directly on that boney protrusion of the 5th metatarsal with little to no pain in front of that protrusion but with some pain behind that protrusion - maybe the cuboid area. My question is should I take in the same fashion you have shown here?
ergasia PT can you send me an email address for that? Most of my pain is right on that boney part and a little to the end part of that boney part. Looking at some anatomy charts today, I’m thinking it is not the cuboid but rather the head of the metatarsal. I get sharp pains in it sometimes just when sitting or laying down - like needle pricks. There is no swelling and no bruising. I have no idea how I injured it either as nothing memorable occurred to make me think I had injured it. This has rocked on now for three weeks. If not better by the end of the year I will need to have it looked at / xrayed.
@@chaelithecaterpillar8250 So if I’m understanding you correctly it’s right at the fifth metatarsal head? Often times if you have pain here one of the things you can do is get a tuning fork and studies have shown that a 256 MHz turning fork Is best for trying to find a stress fracture of this area. If you can find somebody who has this if they tap the tuning fork and then place it over the most painful spot it might be… Might be indicative of a stress fracture which could be causing your pain. But this is the way I would recommend to tape it
This is a very good question I actually had to look up the disease itself because I’ve not had to treat it yet. But in looking at it yes it would be very similar to a growth plate disorder that you might find for a child of that age knee or heal or hip or pelvis… The whole idea is approximation of the tissue which will help with approximation of the bone so this should definitely help. I’d be very curious to see after about 4 to 6 weeks of applying this if you would not mind following back up with me and letting me know how it worked. Again thank you for the very good question
I do not recall the brand that I have but I have both the 128 MHz and the 256 MHz but most typically I use the 128 which has been shown in studies to be much more specific
I was just diagnosed with osteochondritis of the 5th metatarsal head. It’s not terribly debilitating, but it is nagging/annoying. The ortho wasn’t too helpful in the way of healing or dealing, so I’m wondering if this manner of using kinesio tape might be helpful? Thanks!
Thanks for replying. I'd actually forgotten I'd posted here. MRI revealed an osteochondral lesion to the 5th metatarsal head-weird injury for that small a joint. I'd already been scheduled to have stem cells for a minor meniscus injury and the doc had enough BMAC to also inject some to toe. The knee recovery great, but the toe is pretty much the same. Thanks again! @@ra339801
I’ve been wearing a walking boot for a Jones fracture. My doc (UK) said to remove it after 4 weeks but everything I read online says 6-8 weeks. I’m wondering if KT tape is enough to prevent re-injury if the bone hasn’t united fully. Can I apply the tape myself or must it be done by another?
Absolutely… Placement of the tape can actually help approximate the tissue which can intern help approximate the bone… Once you have good healing you can keep this on there to help increase stability in the fifth metatarsal. Make sure that you have fully healed before you return to sport.
Robert V Absolutely… The idea is that we are trying to immobilize the fracture by mobilizing some of the soft tissue that can also become inflamed. So as you put the tape on there it should actually help a little bit to keep this from moving as much and because it can also approximate the fracture then it may heal not a lot quicker but it may certainly aid in the healing process itself
That is my understanding and substantiated by all the other articles I've read. The base of the 5th metatarsal is proximal (closest to the ankle). The head distal. The location in this video is more the shaft (middle). I have had recurring pain at the base (OS suspects peroneal tendinosis, X-ray negative for Jones or other fractures) as well as the head (localized laterally and still yet to be treated/diagnosed). No obvious gait abnormalities and it's been 2 years. Unfortunately, also confirmed (EMG) Baxter's neuritis in same foot. Makes for a very difficult diagnosis and treatment. A good, peer reviewed article of 5th metatarsal fractures is www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5155254/
I hit my foot against a table 7 months ago. The xray was normal but mri report said mild marrow contusion on the head of 5th metatarsal bone without any definite fracture. There's still inflammation and pain. How do I get rid of the pain and swelling?
@@enoina yup, it's healing, but the rate is too slow. I had painkillers and vitamin D Right now I'm giving hot compression along with Lyrica 75mg tablet.
Hello, I’m 24 years old. I twisted my foot from a tiny step and kept walking for around a week,limping and frequent pain shocks. I went to hospital after a week where they informed me about the fifth metatarsal base fracture which needed operation, they did put on a cast. On the day of operation the main dr. came in and informed me that my bone wasnt dislocated so they won’t operate unless it does dislocate and it’ll be healed properly in 3 weeks time (on internet it was said 6 weeks in articles, I’m totally confused) . I asked if I could put on weight on the foot, she said yes I can. I’m confused now, putting weight on it ,while cast is on doesn’t pain at the moment. Shall I continue normal activities like attending university classes etc.? What are chances for it to dislocate in a cast?? Please help me! 😢
Malik Jehangir hey , I’m suffering from the same thing right now and i don’t know what to do , i moved cast today after 3 weeks and i don’t feel good i don’t know what to do did u get well ?
This is genius. I broke my foot 79 days ago. Little sign of improvement unfortunately. I stumbled on your video a few days after I broke it and wanted to try this. I asked the physician’s assistant (who I see, rather than a doctor- not sure if that’s odd, to me it is) if she could do this.. she said “we don’t typically do that in this office” I asked if she could anyway..? And no. Where can I find a provider for this technique? She said we’ll talk about bone stimulators before we talk about surgery. A few days later I messaged her asking about getting a bone stimulator started early because of a possible autoimmune disease that’s not allowing me to heal… she says insurance doesn’t typically cover. Omg. Help me. I can’t live like this I am already morbidly damn obese. I just had emergency discectomy days after breaking my foot. I still can’t walk or weight bear. I’m DYING TO WALK!! And walk my poor dog!! The knee scooter I have is causing more issues in my back it’s like 50 lbs and big as hell. after all the years of pain and numbness from the sciatica I need my foot to heal for my sanity and HEALTH!!
First and foremost this is an easy application use and if you use it consistently it will absolutely help. Make sure you’re putting about 25 to 50% attention throughout the middle of this application. My mother-in-law went through the same thing in which she had to be nonweightbearing for multiple weeks as well. Be patient. Here is some good news… A discectomy is the easiest surgery that you can have on the lumbar spine so the good news is your will recover very quickly. The issue with your foot is merely a bump in the road. The application that I posted and that you are now using will help you significantly to reduce your pain. The big key is remaining in the limited weight-bearing or non-weight-bearing status that your doctor has defined to facilitate better healing. More good news is that your low back pain and sciatica can be significantly reduced overtime if you have a good physical therapist who is working with not only manual mobilization techniques but also has a great understanding of dry needling. Let me know if you have any other questions about how do use this on the foot and if you wouldn’t mind let me know how you’re doing from time to time.
I would love to know if there are any updates?
I have a fractured Jones and hope your technique helps me post the cast is removed.. thanks for sharing
How's your foot now ? How long recovery took
Is fracture pain stays forever?
Thanks. Just tried this. What a difference.
I fractured the 5th metatarsal in my right foot on 5/3/2020. I was told it would be 8-12 weeks by one doc & 6-8 weeks by another. So, hopefully it will heal somewhere between there.
The report showed:
Acute comminuted minimally displaced fracture of the proximal 5th
metacarpal which may extend towards the articular surface on the oblique view.
Adjacent soft tissue swelling.
I didn’t see how to go about adding a photo for a visual description.
Would you be able to tell me if using KT Tape as you have in this video be ideal for this?
Thanks!
Jessica Pope the fracture you have is exactly why I developed this application. In the past I have seen this help with reduction of this type of injury
very informative video..thank you..where can i purchase this tape?
5th metatarsal head synovitis here, hard to recover even with a boot… would taping help?
Good morning… Yes, it would certainly help. Nothing would help would be to find a physical therapist who does dry needling and have them dry needling at not only that point of the tenosynovitis but also the muscle, that inserted into that which runs along the lateral aspect of the fibula, which is called the peroneals. It’s a great combination
You're pretty clearly talking about the fifth metatarsal base, not the head...
Same thing
@@enoinaDoes the same strap apply?
My pain seems to be directly on that boney protrusion of the 5th metatarsal with little to no pain in front of that protrusion but with some pain behind that protrusion - maybe the cuboid area. My question is should I take in the same fashion you have shown here?
Garden Eva Can you post a picture pointing to the specific area of pain and post it?
ergasia PT can you send me an email address for that? Most of my pain is right on that boney part and a little to the end part of that boney part. Looking at some anatomy charts today, I’m thinking it is not the cuboid but rather the head of the metatarsal. I get sharp pains in it sometimes just when sitting or laying down - like needle pricks. There is no swelling and no bruising. I have no idea how I injured it either as nothing memorable occurred to make me think I had injured it. This has rocked on now for three weeks. If not better by the end of the year I will need to have it looked at / xrayed.
@@enoina based one what they described, I have pain in the same area, just below the phalange at the beginning of the metatarsal, how do I tape it?
@@chaelithecaterpillar8250 So if I’m understanding you correctly it’s right at the fifth metatarsal head? Often times if you have pain here one of the things you can do is get a tuning fork and studies have shown that a 256 MHz turning fork Is best for trying to find a stress fracture of this area. If you can find somebody who has this if they tap the tuning fork and then place it over the most painful spot it might be… Might be indicative of a stress fracture which could be causing your pain. But this is the way I would recommend to tape it
@@enoina Thank you!!
Any treatment for the rest of the time?
Not 100% sue eif my pain is the 5th OR cuboid. 95% it’s the 5th. id there a taping method to support both?
A few questions….
What did you do to the foot or ankle in the first place? Lateral ankle sprain? Hypo mobility of talus? 1st ray and medial cuneiform?
Is this any good for use with Iselin’s disease?
This is a very good question I actually had to look up the disease itself because I’ve not had to treat it yet. But in looking at it yes it would be very similar to a growth plate disorder that you might find for a child of that age knee or heal or hip or pelvis… The whole idea is approximation of the tissue which will help with approximation of the bone so this should definitely help. I’d be very curious to see after about 4 to 6 weeks of applying this if you would not mind following back up with me and letting me know how it worked. Again thank you for the very good question
What brand tuning fork do you like?
Do they have to be tuned perfectly to work for fractures?
I do not recall the brand that I have but I have both the 128 MHz and the 256 MHz but most typically I use the 128 which has been shown in studies to be much more specific
Just out of curiosity... where would you get an IMperfectly tuned tuning fork? ;-)
@@cpcservices5671 Harbor Freight perhaps?
I was just diagnosed with osteochondritis of the 5th metatarsal head. It’s not terribly debilitating, but it is nagging/annoying. The ortho wasn’t too helpful in the way of healing or dealing, so I’m wondering if this manner of using kinesio tape might be helpful? Thanks!
This tape will not help you. This taping is for the 5th metatarsal base. The creator of this video doesn’t know his anatomy.
Thanks for replying. I'd actually forgotten I'd posted here. MRI revealed an osteochondral lesion to the 5th metatarsal head-weird injury for that small a joint. I'd already been scheduled to have stem cells for a minor meniscus injury and the doc had enough BMAC to also inject some to toe. The knee recovery great, but the toe is pretty much the same. Thanks again! @@ra339801
Thank you.
Clear Blue you’re very welcome
I’ve been wearing a walking boot for a Jones fracture. My doc (UK) said to remove it after 4 weeks but everything I read online says 6-8 weeks. I’m wondering if KT tape is enough to prevent re-injury if the bone hasn’t united fully. Can I apply the tape myself or must it be done by another?
You can do it yourself , if you can keep your foot in neutral position while taping
What about after recovering from a 5th metatarsol fracture and returning to sports? Is it helpful to tape that part of the foot?
Absolutely… Placement of the tape can actually help approximate the tissue which can intern help approximate the bone… Once you have good healing you can keep this on there to help increase stability in the fifth metatarsal. Make sure that you have fully healed before you return to sport.
@@enoina Thanks!
Is this safe for use with a Jones fracture?
Robert V Absolutely… The idea is that we are trying to immobilize the fracture by mobilizing some of the soft tissue that can also become inflamed. So as you put the tape on there it should actually help a little bit to keep this from moving as much and because it can also approximate the fracture then it may heal not a lot quicker but it may certainly aid in the healing process itself
@@enoina Is it ok for the fracture of the BASE of the 5t metatarsol?
Maty Verona absolutely
Just so you know, that’s the 5th metatarsal base.
Just so you know….its the same thing
I thought the head was directly back from the actual toe. If not what is that area called
That is my understanding and substantiated by all the other articles I've read. The base of the 5th metatarsal is proximal (closest to the ankle). The head distal. The location in this video is more the shaft (middle). I have had recurring pain at the base (OS suspects peroneal tendinosis, X-ray negative for Jones or other fractures) as well as the head (localized laterally and still yet to be treated/diagnosed). No obvious gait abnormalities and it's been 2 years. Unfortunately, also confirmed (EMG) Baxter's neuritis in same foot. Makes for a very difficult diagnosis and treatment.
A good, peer reviewed article of 5th metatarsal fractures is www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5155254/
You're correct. He's talking about the metatarsal base.
I broke mine 3 months ago and just got sent to a new doctor. I had seizures and he gave me a shoe...3months and it hasn’t healed at all
I hope this will help you
I hit my foot against a table 7 months ago. The xray was normal but mri report said mild marrow contusion on the head of 5th metatarsal bone without any definite fracture. There's still inflammation and pain. How do I get rid of the pain and swelling?
time will reduce the contusion. bone bruise heals differently than sift tissue
@@enoina It's been 7 months now. Isn't it too late?
@@14Ikie no not at all. My bet is it’s not that contused at this point. What other treatments have you done
@@enoina yup, it's healing, but the rate is too slow. I had painkillers and vitamin D
Right now I'm giving hot compression along with Lyrica 75mg tablet.
when I got injured, I didn't take rest initially.
Hello, I’m 24 years old. I twisted my foot from a tiny step and kept walking for around a week,limping and frequent pain shocks. I went to hospital after a week where they informed me about the fifth metatarsal base fracture which needed operation, they did put on a cast. On the day of operation the main dr. came in and informed me that my bone wasnt dislocated so they won’t operate unless it does dislocate and it’ll be healed properly in 3 weeks time (on internet it was said 6 weeks in articles, I’m totally confused) . I asked if I could put on weight on the foot, she said yes I can. I’m confused now, putting weight on it ,while cast is on doesn’t pain at the moment. Shall I continue normal activities like attending university classes etc.? What are chances for it to dislocate in a cast?? Please help me! 😢
Malik Jehangir hey , I’m suffering from the same thing right now and i don’t know what to do , i moved cast today after 3 weeks and i don’t feel good i don’t know what to do did u get well ?
Does your foot heal well?
@@matyverona9407 it did, it’s been two years now!!!! I’ve been running 3KM thrice a week, doing gym as usual and travel a lot!
@@matyverona9407 it will take u 6 weeks to get back on foot and in 1 month and a half you will be jogging too !
@@malikjehangir3337 Thanks! That's great! I'm looking forward to returning to tennis...Did you do some physical therapy?